>>>No, I have not. I spent the best part of five years programming both systems professionally, have several different models of each, and am therefore very familiar indeed with their respective capabilities and limitations.Max Headroom via the Video Toaster. Why you can't get that sort of performance is due to your incompetence and lack of skill on the Amiga. You most likely don't know how to use the co-processors and write sloppy code as a result of your failures for the past five years on it.
>>>Given that that's what I've been saying all along, I'm very glad indeed that you've stopped trying to pretend that the Internet is the reason they failed.Even Slashdot posted a story of Microsoft killing the Amiga and I guess you just ignored it? Also Linux is the new Amiga which Microsoft is trying to kill, thus establishing a pattern with Microsoft.
Have a nice day in Bizzaro world I hope you figure out how to write programs properly for the Amiga. I got a friend with a computer store that still sells used Amigas and people are using them including me. They have PowerPC accelerators now and a new version of AmigaOS that tricks them out better than Vista and OSX. The Amiga is also one of the top emulated systems on the market that everyone wants to emulate. Not bad for a sh*tty machine with stupid marketing and moron managers, eh?;)
Only five years in those technologies? I have over twenty years. Write back when you actually understand what you are writing about, kiddo. Then maybe we can talk.
Microsoft must pay you a lot to be their shill. You keep using their FUD like it is your religion or something.
You even ignored the Amiga bridgecards and add on bus adapters that had Intel 80X86 processors in them that worked with the PC-Transformer emulator, slower than a 4.77Mhz 8088 Processor at 1/10th the speed? It just shows how much you don't know about the Amiga as you ignore the bridgecards most likely you ignored the Video Toaster and other add on devices as well.
because Windows CE used to exist for MIPS based mobile systems. So it can run a MIPS version of Windows CE or MIPS based Windows Mobile.
MIPS is one of the platform targets of AROS which will help turn it into a sub$100 Amiga laptop. I think the MIPS based AROS will have 68K emulation to run the old Amiga 68K programs on it via an emulator.
Sorry same floppy drives as the Macintosh but different user interface plug. Both the Atari ST and Amiga read/write both the Macintosh 800K and MS-DOS 720K floppy disks at the same speed as the Mac and PC. Except the Amiga used a GCR method to tweak the drive to 880K, IIRC, and get more storage.
I'm sorry I withdraw the your a total liar remark.
Apparently you've fallen for the Microsoft FUD about Amiga and Atari ST systems.
A little known fact about them is that they didn't require as much RAM or processor speed to get things done while PC clones needed faster Intel processors and more than 512K of RAM to at least get a decent speed in the 1980s to do the same thing an Amiga or Atari ST could do in 256K of RAM with an 8Mhz 68000 processor.
Besides the Atari ST and Amiga had MS-DOS and Macintosh emulators, I showed my Amiga 1000 off to my PC and Mac friends with the PC-Transformer and A-Max programs that ran their MS-DOS and Macintosh programs on my Amiga 1000. They claimed the Amiga was inferior to the PC and Mac and couldn't run the same software. I proved them wrong.
Microsoft FUD about the Amiga and Atari ST was also that they had slow drives. Which was true of the Commodore 64, but the Amiga and Atari ST used the same floppy drives as the Macintosh and used an add-on SCSI or IDE controlled and used the same hard drives as a PC or Mac at the same speed.
I think you are reading Microsoft FUD because they try to rewrite history because the Internet existed as the Arpanet before 1994 and we used Telnet, Gopher, FTP, Newsgroups, and email with a text based interface that any dumb terminal BBS software and modem could connect to. There was a DOS version of AOL in 1991, but before that was a CompuServe which had a $500 rebate for MS-DOS computers bundled with Procomm or Vidtext terminal software to get on CompuServe and access the Arpanet and CompuServe resources in the 1980's. First AOL cut a deal with Commodre/GEOS to make the Commodore 64 have a GUI interface in 1983, and then Compuserve countered with the Procomm/Videtext bundle as a way to get on the Arpanet and offered the $500 rebate. Then Prodigy and AOL competed with the MS-DOS clients in the 1990's and also offered the $500 rebate and it later became known as an Internet rebate after the Arpanet was renamed the Internet.
Winsock and Trumpet did not come out until the 1990's when the world wide web was invented because the Mosaic web browser needed it, but the Lynx based text only web browser used MS-DOS based dial-up SLIP and PPP and all one needed to do was use Procomm and telnet to a Unix system that hosted Lynx without needing a Winsock or TCP/IP stack just a terminal program. But since you don't have experience with it and only read the Microsoft FUD, you didn't know that.
Obviously I am dealing with someone that wasn't even born when these technologies were invented and got most of his info off of Microsoft web sites and Microsoft FUD sites via Google or some other search engine, because the true history of the Amiga and Atari ST happened before the world wide web was invented and after the world wide web Microsoft rewrote history in its favor to make Commodore and Atari look like morons. The only thing they are guilty of is not marketing the machines correctly (Nickle and Dime marketing doomed both machines) and not getting enough third party software developers to support it (mostly what they got were game developers and only Wordperfect wrote business software for them that also existed on the PC), which in some parts Microsoft out marketed them and got more software developers for MS-DOS and Windows via OEM agreements and abusing their monopoly. Which the DOJ read the complaints by Atari and Commodore to start the anticompetition charges against Microsoft in the first place along with Apple, Be Inc., Oracle, Netscape, AOL, etc.
But don't let the truth stop you from believing the FUD.:)
Before there was a Windows AOL client there was an AOL DOS Client in 1991, before that it was Compuserve for DOS that allowed DOS machines to get on the Internet (Arpanet) and Compuserve had an Internet rebate as well for PC Clones running MS-DOS before the AOL Windows PC rebate came out.
In the 1990's was when Microsoft bundled Windows 3.X with MS-DOS and abused their monopoly to screw not just Apple, but Atari and Commodore as well. Right when Windows 95 was in beta testing in 1994, Commodore started to have economic troubles because nobody wanted to buy an Amiga when a PC Clone with MS-DOS and Windows 3.X was cheaper thanks to those Internet rebates. Commodore didn't really close down in the USA until 2001. In fact Commodore still exists in some form making PC Clones now instead of Amiga and Commodore 64 systems it sells PC Clones running Windows Vista under Commodore Gaming because if they couldn't beat Microsoft they might as well join up and sell PC Clones like everyone else. The Amiga part was sold off in the 1990's and is now known as Amiga, Inc. and plans an AmigaOS 5.0 that is better than Vista and Mac OSX because it has a smaller footprint and runs faster. AmigaAnywhere is based on it and it is so small it can run on cellphones to emulate 68K Amigas and run the old Amiga games in cell phones.
So Commodore and Amiga didn't die, didn't have stupid ideas, and are able to market themselves to niche markets and survive. You are a complete and total liar!
Like most of your comments, you are grossly incorrect.
The Commodore 64 helped get AOL started in 1983 before the Amiga existed, but Apple and Microsoft made a deal with AOL to not support the Commodore machines anymore after that AOL rebate was made.
You are obviously an Amiga and Atari hater that doesn't know jack squat about their history and favor the Mac or Windows PCs even if they were inferior to the Amiga and Atari ST from 1985-1994. Around 1995 Windows 95 sunk both of them as PC Clones got so cheap and so fast that Atari and Commodore could not get the 68K series processors to match what Intel put out. Apple had to convert to the PowerPC to match Intel PCs, then Atari went out of business and Amiga got sold off and later they made AmigaOS 4.0 for PowerPC Amiga systems but it was too late. Even Gateway tried to sell the Amiga, but after Microsoft threatened to take away their Windows OEM license, they dropped it like a hot potato and sold it.
AmigaDOS/AmigaOS lives on as the free and open source AROS and if it had third party driver support and third party business software support like Windows, it would wipe the floor with Windows and Mac OSX because it has a smaller footprint and is ten times faster as the modern Windows and Macintosh operating systems and can run on the same hardware as PCs and Macs. But since Microsoft has the monopoly on what third parties can write drivers for and business software for, they sink alternatives to Windows like AROS, eComStation, BeOS, HaikuOS, Linux, *BSD Unix, etc.
"Both VisiOn and GEM had their proponents, but neither made a major dent in the consumer market, which continued to be dominated by the twin monoliths Apple and Microsoft."
"So why didnâ(TM)t Amiga wipe both Apple and IBM/Microsoft off the PC market? As usual, we have a patchwork of reasons. The best guess is that Amiga made the same mistake as the Tucker passenger auto made⦠it was too far ahead of its time too fast, and couldnâ(TM)t take advantage of its own capabilities. The heated competition that existed between Amiga and Atari worked to Microsoftâ(TM)s advantage, as did Amigaâ(TM)s spotty ability to keep their dealers and customers happy. Adding to Amigaâ(TM)s problems were the first machinesâ(TM) failure to settle on a single GUI (one Amiga user tells me that the early models had different interfaces depending on which program was running). But whatever the reasons, Amiga was one sharp puppy, and deserved a better fate â" though today Amiga is neither gone nor forgotten; a new OS called âoeThe Digital Environmentâ is being touted as the next step in GUI-driven operating systems. We may hear from Amiga again before all is said and done.
Yet another mid-80s contender in the GUI wars was the Atari ST. Atari, much better known for their video games, produced a PC that featured the GEM OS. Like the Amiga, the ST couldnâ(TM)t compete with the big boys, nor could it compete with Amiga for gamers, but its sophisticated sound processing capabilities earned it a niche with audio editors and musicians."
If Microsoft did not have Windows the Amiga and Atari ST would have duked it out until one of them won. because Amiga and Atari duked it out, Microsoft eventually won. Dealers and customers weren't happy with the Amiga because Microsoft made software developers sign an agreement not to develop business software for the Amiga or Atari ST and only for Windows or the Macintosh. Apple made Apple dealers promise not to support or sell Amiga or Atari computers because they claimed they cut into Macintosh sales.
>>>"âoeI had an enormous reservoir of goodwill towards Microsoft because it and it alone â" unlike Xerox, Apple, Amiga and many others who tried before it â" was the one that finally delivered a usable graphical interface on ubiquitous, inexpensive hardware. Microsoft often wasn't the first, and its software wasn't often the best, but it was inarguably the one that delivered on the early promise of personal computing in a way no other software maker did. Microsoft â" more than any other company â" opened up computing for ordinary people. I loved Microsoft for that.â "
"â" Fred Langa"
Microsoft won because PC clones were cheaper than Amiga and Atari ST systems, mostly because they were sold almost at "cost" with that Microsoft MSN or AOL $500 rebate in agreement with 2+ years of $22/month dial-up Internet access to turn a $800 PC Clone with Windows into a $300 PC Clone with Windows and a hard drive that outsold the $500 Amiga 500 and Atari 520 ST systems with a hard drive. Then sometimes the terms of the rebate caused people to pay back $300 of the $500 rebate when they canceled their MSN or AOL accounts because of the poor quality and high price. Amiga and Atari did not bundle in an "Internet Rebate" with their computer systems and it made dealers and users upset.
for stealing the Commodore key and calling it the "Windows" key on the Microsoft keyboards that came decades later than the old 1980 Commodore VIC-20 keyboards that already had a patent for a special logo style key for software shortcuts. outdates the Microsoft keyboard by decades and had programmable function keys that worked as page down and page up before the 1981 IBM PC keyboard. I recall in 1980 some word processing and spreadsheet programs for the VIC-20 displayed the programmable function keys as pg dn and pg up on the VIC-20 information screen for the help for those programs. While the programmable function keys are not labeled as page up and page down on their key tops, they were used for such in business software for the VIC-20 one year before IBM and Microsoft used them for such. Also the VIC-20 is just basically based on the old CBM PET series from 1977 that was based on the KIM-1 which even outdates the Apple 1 and TRS-80 series computers by a few months. Some of the homebrew keyboards made for the Kim-1 had pg up and pg down keys, programmable function keys, etc long before many of the others had them.
So basically a lot of this stuff had existed before 1981 when IBM made the IBM PC keyboard. But IBM could claim that pg up and pg down keys existed on their Mainframe dumb terminals before 1977 dating back to the 1950's and trump everyone else in patents.:) Even Apple has prior art to that on the old Apple Logo keys but the original Apple// did not have Apple logo keys until Steve Jobs stole them from the Commodore VIC-20 to make their Apple//e computer later turning the Commodore key into open Apple and closed Apple keys that do the same thing as the Commodore key.
It does when the user has a firewall that is not the Windows Firewall and blocks the WGA request to check the key. Then Windows becomes Grayware and Microsoft cannot verify if it is legit or not. Then later the Grayware becomes pirated even if there is a valid key from the computer sticker that was sold with the system.
So you either use the crappy Windows Firewall and get tons of viri infections or buy something better and get a false positive from Microsoft on the WGA check.
Also that annoying Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool it wants to install along with WGA just to do updates or install Microsoft software that has to pass a genuine check before it will install.
The MSRT never seems to detect anything at all, I suspect it is really malware that reports on what the User is doing back to Microsoft and the names of the software they have installed and if they are legit or not. I've never actually seen MSRT detect and remove anything even when other malware removers claim there are hundreds if not thousands of malware infections.
Actually IBM won their case against Microsoft and were able to install OS/2 on their desktops and Microsoft's EULA was found to be unconstitutional and IBM had the right to use OS/2 despite Microsoft's legal claims to it.
Bill Gates just laughed about it, and then ordered that Windows 3.X be bundled to all MS-DOS sales and licenses. IBM laughed at that move because they claimed OS/2 was superior and nobody would buy a copy of MS-DOS and load Windows over that. IBM countered by making a version of OS/2 called OS/2 Warp 3.0 and another codenamed Ferrengi that loaded over Windows 3.X and ran OS/2 apps. IBM marketed OS/2 as a better DOS than MS-DOS and a better Windows than Windows 3.x, and told Bill Gates to suck it up. Bill Gates laughed and turned their MS-OS/2 3.0 project into Windows NT and licensed VMS technology, and then wrote Windows 95 codenamed Chicago. IBM released OS/2 Warp 3.0 in beta and claimed "Reach Chicago before Microsoft" but when IBM released OS/2 Warp 3.0, Microsoft had sabotaged it by making hardware OEM vendors agree to only develop DOS and Windows drivers and not OS/2 drivers. IBM tried to write their own drivers for third party hardware, but OS/2 Warp flopped and Windows 95 used DOS and Windows 3.X drivers.
Fast forward to Microsoft basing Windows 2000 and XP on Windows NT code, and IBM releasing OS/2 Warp 4.0 Merlin, but all it runs is 16 bit Windows and MS-DOS apps, and Microsoft changed how Win32S worked with Windows 2000 so the Win32S library that OS/2 used does not work with Windows 2000 and above applications. Then Microsoft got almost every software developer to only support Windows 2000 and above, even Apple and their iPod, and Windows 9X and OS/2 use dropped like flies. OS/2 had WINE ported to ODIN libraries but it was too late, Microsoft beat IBM again and IBM OEMed OS/2 as eComStation to Serenity systems and then gave up on OS/2 and went to Linux and tried to migrate all of their business apps to Windows 2000 and above and Linux.
It is called a phyrric victory you know. Microsoft did the same thing to Apple, Amiga, Atari, Be Inc., and even NeXT.
This sounds like the ghost of Theodore Roosevelt rose from the grave because he didn't like the way the USA was headed especially in the technology area.
For those who don't know Teddy Roosevelt was one of the last few true Conservative Republicans before the fake Conservatives the Neocons took over. True Conservative Republicans conserve nature and resources, and protect liberty and freedoms and stop companies from becoming monopolies and abusing their power and trying to ruin smaller companies. Sort of the opposite of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
Teddy Roosevelt was upset over the DOJ's verdict with Microsoft, the DMCA allowing the MPAA and RIAA to bully consumers and sue them until they are broke by removing the "fair use" clause of the copyright act, and now that Apple is bullying Psystar, Teddy Roosevelt the trustbuster is back as a ghost and he is majorly upset at what has become of the USA, its foreign policy, and how companies like Microsoft and Apple have screwed over smaller companies. So he speaks softly, but carries a big stick and helped Lawyer up Psystar by citing some of the laws he worked with as well as some that others had passed as well.
I have one word for him, "Bully!" good job Mr. Roosevelt, we need more politicians to be more like you were when you were alive.
Thanks my son had an allergic food allergy while I was writing it and I had to finish it up fast because I couldn't figure out what my wife was talking about because it was thundering outside at the same time, and I thought she was trying to tell me to shut off my computer before it gets fried. I later learned my son developed hives from eating some snack with whey and milk cultures in it and might be allergic to milk, though he's eaten the same food before without a reaction. Might be something else instead.
Sorry about the mixup, we were in the hospital until 1am and I was up until 4am researching on the Internet what he could be allergic to. Then I crashed and just woke up to check the replies.
Atari found out with the 5200 that nobody wanted to buy a new system unless it ran the old legacy games, so the 7800 was made that ran the old 2600 games, but by that time the Intellivision, Colecovision had 2600 adapters and dozens of 2600 clones were being sold and anyone and their dog could make a 2600 game because Atari did not handle the game licensing properly.
By the time Atari got their act together, Nintendo ate their lunch with the NES or Famicom systems and Atari had millions of ET 2600 games they mass produced and other technology turds they couldn't get rid of so they crushed them and put them in landfills in New Mexico near Devil's Tower and tried to remake the Atari 800 series as 800XL but by that time Commodore ate their lunch in the home computer market.
Then Atari had an opportunity to make things right with the Lorrane project but they low balled Jay Miner and company and they moved to Commodore and made the Amiga project, by that time Ex-Commodore owner Jack Tramiel had been kicked out of Commodore like Steve Jobs was kicked out of Apple by shareholders, and Jack Tramiel bought out Atari and turned it into Commodore Part II and licensed GEM to make the Atari ST to compete with the Commodore Amiga.
Then Atari did good, until it released the Jaguar, but ST, TT, and Falcon sales made up for it, until IBM invented the IBM PS2 series and VGA and Microsoft bundled Windows with DOS, and then everyone and their dog made IBM PC clones with VGA and DOS and Windows and ate Commodore's and Atari's lunches.
Commodore went out of business but spun off the Amiga company, Atari also got bought out and sold and resold and while the ST/TT/Falcon died and TOS/GEM became open sourced. Amiga kept being developed as AmigaOS now and then AmigaAnywhere for cell phones to keep the Amiga games going on in a new format. But Atari became just a name that video game companies kept buying out and reselling.
Atari did try to do video game pizza joints, as Pizza Time and other names, until they got a brand name as Chuck E Cheese and sold out to Showbiz Pizza. Noland Bushnell tried to invest in video game arcades slash pizza joints and also tried to reinvent Atari as the Sente company.
I would say only if those 42% use easy to guess passwords or are stupid enough to save the passwords in their web browsers and email programs. Then again if a majority of computer users aren't smart enough to use a hard to guess password and aren't paranoid enough to avoid saving passwords in web browsers and email programs, they deserve to have their significant others snooping around their web and email accounts.
#1 Linspire/Xandros turns Linux into a Mac OSX type OS by making it easier to use with more eye candy and available with a commercial license for $60 under a new name like Lindros, LinDOS, XanOS, or just LinspireOS. It will have commercial codexes, flash player, PDF viewer/converters, and they will partner up with IBM to have a small business version bundled with commercial IBM software for Linux bundled with it called something like LinBusiness, LinOffice, or XanWorks, or just Busnix.
#2 Shades of the Indrema, someone creates a distro of Linux for game consoles, and develops a video game standard written in Java and Python that runs under the LinStation or whatever standard it will be called. The Linstation Distro gets ported to the XBox 360, Wii, Playstation 3, and other platforms and all can run the Java and Python based games most of which are free and open sourced and available over the Internet. It will greatly upset Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft as it will cut into their console game sales, plus LinStation would be ported to PCs and Macs so they can run it as well as the game consoles.
#3 Thanks to ReactOS contributing to WINE, in three years WINE should be able to run most software made for Windows XP and below as long as it doesn't use proprietary copy protection, but in three years WINE will find a way to make SecureROM and other popular copy protection libraries work in WINE without violating EULA. By that time Windows 7.0 will be out, but Vista broke too many popular software packages and they didn't get rewritten for Vista. Once ReactOS is able to use Windows WDM drivers, the code will be shared with Linux giving it the ability to use Windows drivers if WINE is loaded, thanks to a kernel mod written by the ReactOS team.
#4 Novell will have perfected the Moonlight and Mono projects that Windows software written in Visual Studio 2008 and under will be able to be recompiled under Mono to run in Linux or any other platform that can run Mono. After Windows 7.0 turns into another bomb with bloated features and legacy software issues some companies are looking for a Linux or Mac OSX solution using Mono and Moonlight to run the Visual Studio and Silverlight custom applications that they developed or paid to have developed for them. Microsoft will try to sue, but Novell will reference the Lotus 123 verses Twin, and the Crosstalk cases showing that as long as no original code is used in the product, it can be used to run files and/or programs written for the original product. Also since Microsoft made Dotnet languages like C# and Visual BASIC.Net part of the ECMA standards, they can't put the Genie back in the bottle and other projects use those standards like DotGNU, etc.
#5 New PLCS will be based on Linux and have USB and CAT5 Ethernet ports in them. The old PLCS still use serial ports and only work with Windows XP and below and not Linux. The new PLCs will have Linux clients as well as Windows clients. An open source version of PLC control software using RLL will be released and be available for any Linux distro and emulate PLC devices for better development.
#6 Angry Mac Developers and Mac Users will create a WINE type project to run Mac OSX applications on Linux systems. It will be a GNUStep fork, and first be based on OpenStep standards and then have the Mac OSX API calls added to it. They will make a plug-in for GCC to compile X-Code and Objective-C code under Linux and start porting Darwin libraries for Darwin support at first, and then when they can support Mach Kernel and Darwin programs, they will start adding in Mac OSX support. The end result will be a Linux system that runs Mac OSX applications faster than Mac OSX can run them.
#7 AmigaOS 5.0 will finally be released, but it will be based on Linux, using the Amiga Workbench GUI instead of X86.org, chances are they will use the Yellowdog distro as it is a favorite of Amiga One owners. It will exist in PowerPC and Intel versions, and drivers will be written for old PowerMac systems that couldn't run Mac OSX, they will
I think he is more like 12, got a computer for his birthday and just figured out how to download songs for free over the Internet using the fake version of Kazza that installs Spyware and Trojans on his Windows system, running AOL 9.0 without the Antivirus option because he is not smart enough to enable it or update or activate it.
The old "If they aren't selling it recently, it is abandonware and free!" He most likely downloaded a trojan infected version of Windows XP because Vista sucked as it was too hard to figure out how to turn off that security guard from the Apple commercials.
Yes it is legal to download anything you want on the Internet without the RIAA suing you over it, Here's your sign!:)
If you have to ask if it is legal to download songs that were ripped from old 78s without the permission of the company that holds the copyright on the song, chances are you might need a sign that says "stupid".:)
Some of it isn't politcally correct
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some of the song lyrics are racist and at least one of them is x-rated and people have to request it.
The early 20th century had a lot of raw, dry, dark, and offensive humor in their songs. People who didn't grow up during those days will find it horribly offensive, esp during the WWII anti-Japanese years or during when segregation was still a law and songs mocked African-Americans.
Just a warning for people who are easily offended, some of these songs might offend them. So do us all a big favor if you are one of them and don't listen to those songs. Monty Python had a similar warning on their show for the same reasons.
For the same reason a woman keeps going back to her abusive boyfriend no matter how many times he smacked her around or steals her money. Stupidity and an addiction to getting abused. It is the same reason why people use illegal drugs despite them causing cancer and other health risks.
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>>>No, I have not. I spent the best part of five years programming both systems professionally, have several different models of each, and am therefore very familiar indeed with their respective capabilities and limitations.Max Headroom via the Video Toaster. Why you can't get that sort of performance is due to your incompetence and lack of skill on the Amiga. You most likely don't know how to use the co-processors and write sloppy code as a result of your failures for the past five years on it.
>>>Given that that's what I've been saying all along, I'm very glad indeed that you've stopped trying to pretend that the Internet is the reason they failed.Even Slashdot posted a story of Microsoft killing the Amiga and I guess you just ignored it? Also Linux is the new Amiga which Microsoft is trying to kill, thus establishing a pattern with Microsoft.
Have a nice day in Bizzaro world I hope you figure out how to write programs properly for the Amiga. I got a friend with a computer store that still sells used Amigas and people are using them including me. They have PowerPC accelerators now and a new version of AmigaOS that tricks them out better than Vista and OSX. The Amiga is also one of the top emulated systems on the market that everyone wants to emulate. Not bad for a sh*tty machine with stupid marketing and moron managers, eh? ;)
Only five years in those technologies? I have over twenty years. Write back when you actually understand what you are writing about, kiddo. Then maybe we can talk.
Microsoft must pay you a lot to be their shill. You keep using their FUD like it is your religion or something.
You even ignored the Amiga bridgecards and add on bus adapters that had Intel 80X86 processors in them that worked with the PC-Transformer emulator, slower than a 4.77Mhz 8088 Processor at 1/10th the speed? It just shows how much you don't know about the Amiga as you ignore the bridgecards most likely you ignored the Video Toaster and other add on devices as well.
because Windows CE used to exist for MIPS based mobile systems. So it can run a MIPS version of Windows CE or MIPS based Windows Mobile.
MIPS is one of the platform targets of AROS which will help turn it into a sub$100 Amiga laptop. I think the MIPS based AROS will have 68K emulation to run the old Amiga 68K programs on it via an emulator.
Sorry same floppy drives as the Macintosh but different user interface plug. Both the Atari ST and Amiga read/write both the Macintosh 800K and MS-DOS 720K floppy disks at the same speed as the Mac and PC. Except the Amiga used a GCR method to tweak the drive to 880K, IIRC, and get more storage.
I'm sorry I withdraw the your a total liar remark.
Apparently you've fallen for the Microsoft FUD about Amiga and Atari ST systems.
A little known fact about them is that they didn't require as much RAM or processor speed to get things done while PC clones needed faster Intel processors and more than 512K of RAM to at least get a decent speed in the 1980s to do the same thing an Amiga or Atari ST could do in 256K of RAM with an 8Mhz 68000 processor.
Besides the Atari ST and Amiga had MS-DOS and Macintosh emulators, I showed my Amiga 1000 off to my PC and Mac friends with the PC-Transformer and A-Max programs that ran their MS-DOS and Macintosh programs on my Amiga 1000. They claimed the Amiga was inferior to the PC and Mac and couldn't run the same software. I proved them wrong.
Microsoft FUD about the Amiga and Atari ST was also that they had slow drives. Which was true of the Commodore 64, but the Amiga and Atari ST used the same floppy drives as the Macintosh and used an add-on SCSI or IDE controlled and used the same hard drives as a PC or Mac at the same speed.
I think you are reading Microsoft FUD because they try to rewrite history because the Internet existed as the Arpanet before 1994 and we used Telnet, Gopher, FTP, Newsgroups, and email with a text based interface that any dumb terminal BBS software and modem could connect to. There was a DOS version of AOL in 1991, but before that was a CompuServe which had a $500 rebate for MS-DOS computers bundled with Procomm or Vidtext terminal software to get on CompuServe and access the Arpanet and CompuServe resources in the 1980's. First AOL cut a deal with Commodre/GEOS to make the Commodore 64 have a GUI interface in 1983, and then Compuserve countered with the Procomm/Videtext bundle as a way to get on the Arpanet and offered the $500 rebate. Then Prodigy and AOL competed with the MS-DOS clients in the 1990's and also offered the $500 rebate and it later became known as an Internet rebate after the Arpanet was renamed the Internet.
Winsock and Trumpet did not come out until the 1990's when the world wide web was invented because the Mosaic web browser needed it, but the Lynx based text only web browser used MS-DOS based dial-up SLIP and PPP and all one needed to do was use Procomm and telnet to a Unix system that hosted Lynx without needing a Winsock or TCP/IP stack just a terminal program. But since you don't have experience with it and only read the Microsoft FUD, you didn't know that.
Obviously I am dealing with someone that wasn't even born when these technologies were invented and got most of his info off of Microsoft web sites and Microsoft FUD sites via Google or some other search engine, because the true history of the Amiga and Atari ST happened before the world wide web was invented and after the world wide web Microsoft rewrote history in its favor to make Commodore and Atari look like morons. The only thing they are guilty of is not marketing the machines correctly (Nickle and Dime marketing doomed both machines) and not getting enough third party software developers to support it (mostly what they got were game developers and only Wordperfect wrote business software for them that also existed on the PC), which in some parts Microsoft out marketed them and got more software developers for MS-DOS and Windows via OEM agreements and abusing their monopoly. Which the DOJ read the complaints by Atari and Commodore to start the anticompetition charges against Microsoft in the first place along with Apple, Be Inc., Oracle, Netscape, AOL, etc.
But don't let the truth stop you from believing the FUD. :)
Before there was a Windows AOL client there was an AOL DOS Client in 1991, before that it was Compuserve for DOS that allowed DOS machines to get on the Internet (Arpanet) and Compuserve had an Internet rebate as well for PC Clones running MS-DOS before the AOL Windows PC rebate came out.
In the 1990's was when Microsoft bundled Windows 3.X with MS-DOS and abused their monopoly to screw not just Apple, but Atari and Commodore as well. Right when Windows 95 was in beta testing in 1994, Commodore started to have economic troubles because nobody wanted to buy an Amiga when a PC Clone with MS-DOS and Windows 3.X was cheaper thanks to those Internet rebates. Commodore didn't really close down in the USA until 2001. In fact Commodore still exists in some form making PC Clones now instead of Amiga and Commodore 64 systems it sells PC Clones running Windows Vista under Commodore Gaming because if they couldn't beat Microsoft they might as well join up and sell PC Clones like everyone else. The Amiga part was sold off in the 1990's and is now known as Amiga, Inc. and plans an AmigaOS 5.0 that is better than Vista and Mac OSX because it has a smaller footprint and runs faster. AmigaAnywhere is based on it and it is so small it can run on cellphones to emulate 68K Amigas and run the old Amiga games in cell phones.
So Commodore and Amiga didn't die, didn't have stupid ideas, and are able to market themselves to niche markets and survive. You are a complete and total liar!
Like most of your comments, you are grossly incorrect.
The Commodore 64 helped get AOL started in 1983 before the Amiga existed, but Apple and Microsoft made a deal with AOL to not support the Commodore machines anymore after that AOL rebate was made.
You are obviously an Amiga and Atari hater that doesn't know jack squat about their history and favor the Mac or Windows PCs even if they were inferior to the Amiga and Atari ST from 1985-1994. Around 1995 Windows 95 sunk both of them as PC Clones got so cheap and so fast that Atari and Commodore could not get the 68K series processors to match what Intel put out. Apple had to convert to the PowerPC to match Intel PCs, then Atari went out of business and Amiga got sold off and later they made AmigaOS 4.0 for PowerPC Amiga systems but it was too late. Even Gateway tried to sell the Amiga, but after Microsoft threatened to take away their Windows OEM license, they dropped it like a hot potato and sold it.
AmigaDOS/AmigaOS lives on as the free and open source AROS and if it had third party driver support and third party business software support like Windows, it would wipe the floor with Windows and Mac OSX because it has a smaller footprint and is ten times faster as the modern Windows and Macintosh operating systems and can run on the same hardware as PCs and Macs. But since Microsoft has the monopoly on what third parties can write drivers for and business software for, they sink alternatives to Windows like AROS, eComStation, BeOS, HaikuOS, Linux, *BSD Unix, etc.
Yeah right History of the GUI
"Both VisiOn and GEM had their proponents, but neither made a major dent in the consumer market, which continued to be dominated by the twin monoliths Apple and Microsoft."
"So why didnâ(TM)t Amiga wipe both Apple and IBM/Microsoft off the PC market? As usual, we have a patchwork of reasons. The best guess is that Amiga made the same mistake as the Tucker passenger auto made⦠it was too far ahead of its time too fast, and couldnâ(TM)t take advantage of its own capabilities. The heated competition that existed between Amiga and Atari worked to Microsoftâ(TM)s advantage, as did Amigaâ(TM)s spotty ability to keep their dealers and customers happy. Adding to Amigaâ(TM)s problems were the first machinesâ(TM) failure to settle on a single GUI (one Amiga user tells me that the early models had different interfaces depending on which program was running). But whatever the reasons, Amiga was one sharp puppy, and deserved a better fate â" though today Amiga is neither gone nor forgotten; a new OS called âoeThe Digital Environmentâ is being touted as the next step in GUI-driven operating systems. We may hear from Amiga again before all is said and done.
Yet another mid-80s contender in the GUI wars was the Atari ST. Atari, much better known for their video games, produced a PC that featured the GEM OS. Like the Amiga, the ST couldnâ(TM)t compete with the big boys, nor could it compete with Amiga for gamers, but its sophisticated sound processing capabilities earned it a niche with audio editors and musicians."
If Microsoft did not have Windows the Amiga and Atari ST would have duked it out until one of them won. because Amiga and Atari duked it out, Microsoft eventually won. Dealers and customers weren't happy with the Amiga because Microsoft made software developers sign an agreement not to develop business software for the Amiga or Atari ST and only for Windows or the Macintosh. Apple made Apple dealers promise not to support or sell Amiga or Atari computers because they claimed they cut into Macintosh sales.
>>>"âoeI had an enormous reservoir of goodwill towards Microsoft because it and it alone â" unlike Xerox, Apple, Amiga and many others who tried before it â" was the one that finally delivered a usable graphical interface on ubiquitous, inexpensive hardware. Microsoft often wasn't the first, and its software wasn't often the best, but it was inarguably the one that delivered on the early promise of personal computing in a way no other software maker did. Microsoft â" more than any other company â" opened up computing for ordinary people. I loved Microsoft for that.â "
"â" Fred Langa"
Microsoft won because PC clones were cheaper than Amiga and Atari ST systems, mostly because they were sold almost at "cost" with that Microsoft MSN or AOL $500 rebate in agreement with 2+ years of $22/month dial-up Internet access to turn a $800 PC Clone with Windows into a $300 PC Clone with Windows and a hard drive that outsold the $500 Amiga 500 and Atari 520 ST systems with a hard drive. Then sometimes the terms of the rebate caused people to pay back $300 of the $500 rebate when they canceled their MSN or AOL accounts because of the poor quality and high price. Amiga and Atari did not bundle in an "Internet Rebate" with their computer systems and it made dealers and users upset.
for stealing the Commodore key and calling it the "Windows" key on the Microsoft keyboards that came decades later than the old 1980 Commodore VIC-20 keyboards that already had a patent for a special logo style key for software shortcuts. outdates the Microsoft keyboard by decades and had programmable function keys that worked as page down and page up before the 1981 IBM PC keyboard. I recall in 1980 some word processing and spreadsheet programs for the VIC-20 displayed the programmable function keys as pg dn and pg up on the VIC-20 information screen for the help for those programs. While the programmable function keys are not labeled as page up and page down on their key tops, they were used for such in business software for the VIC-20 one year before IBM and Microsoft used them for such. Also the VIC-20 is just basically based on the old CBM PET series from 1977 that was based on the KIM-1 which even outdates the Apple 1 and TRS-80 series computers by a few months. Some of the homebrew keyboards made for the Kim-1 had pg up and pg down keys, programmable function keys, etc long before many of the others had them.
So basically a lot of this stuff had existed before 1981 when IBM made the IBM PC keyboard. But IBM could claim that pg up and pg down keys existed on their Mainframe dumb terminals before 1977 dating back to the 1950's and trump everyone else in patents. :) // did not have Apple logo keys until Steve Jobs stole them from the Commodore VIC-20 to make their Apple //e computer later turning the Commodore key into open Apple and closed Apple keys that do the same thing as the Commodore key.
Even Apple has prior art to that on the old Apple Logo keys but the original Apple
It does when the user has a firewall that is not the Windows Firewall and blocks the WGA request to check the key. Then Windows becomes Grayware and Microsoft cannot verify if it is legit or not. Then later the Grayware becomes pirated even if there is a valid key from the computer sticker that was sold with the system.
So you either use the crappy Windows Firewall and get tons of viri infections or buy something better and get a false positive from Microsoft on the WGA check.
Also that annoying Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool it wants to install along with WGA just to do updates or install Microsoft software that has to pass a genuine check before it will install.
The MSRT never seems to detect anything at all, I suspect it is really malware that reports on what the User is doing back to Microsoft and the names of the software they have installed and if they are legit or not. I've never actually seen MSRT detect and remove anything even when other malware removers claim there are hundreds if not thousands of malware infections.
Actually IBM won their case against Microsoft and were able to install OS/2 on their desktops and Microsoft's EULA was found to be unconstitutional and IBM had the right to use OS/2 despite Microsoft's legal claims to it.
Bill Gates just laughed about it, and then ordered that Windows 3.X be bundled to all MS-DOS sales and licenses. IBM laughed at that move because they claimed OS/2 was superior and nobody would buy a copy of MS-DOS and load Windows over that. IBM countered by making a version of OS/2 called OS/2 Warp 3.0 and another codenamed Ferrengi that loaded over Windows 3.X and ran OS/2 apps. IBM marketed OS/2 as a better DOS than MS-DOS and a better Windows than Windows 3.x, and told Bill Gates to suck it up. Bill Gates laughed and turned their MS-OS/2 3.0 project into Windows NT and licensed VMS technology, and then wrote Windows 95 codenamed Chicago. IBM released OS/2 Warp 3.0 in beta and claimed "Reach Chicago before Microsoft" but when IBM released OS/2 Warp 3.0, Microsoft had sabotaged it by making hardware OEM vendors agree to only develop DOS and Windows drivers and not OS/2 drivers. IBM tried to write their own drivers for third party hardware, but OS/2 Warp flopped and Windows 95 used DOS and Windows 3.X drivers.
Fast forward to Microsoft basing Windows 2000 and XP on Windows NT code, and IBM releasing OS/2 Warp 4.0 Merlin, but all it runs is 16 bit Windows and MS-DOS apps, and Microsoft changed how Win32S worked with Windows 2000 so the Win32S library that OS/2 used does not work with Windows 2000 and above applications. Then Microsoft got almost every software developer to only support Windows 2000 and above, even Apple and their iPod, and Windows 9X and OS/2 use dropped like flies. OS/2 had WINE ported to ODIN libraries but it was too late, Microsoft beat IBM again and IBM OEMed OS/2 as eComStation to Serenity systems and then gave up on OS/2 and went to Linux and tried to migrate all of their business apps to Windows 2000 and above and Linux.
It is called a phyrric victory you know. Microsoft did the same thing to Apple, Amiga, Atari, Be Inc., and even NeXT.
This sounds like the ghost of Theodore Roosevelt rose from the grave because he didn't like the way the USA was headed especially in the technology area.
For those who don't know Teddy Roosevelt was one of the last few true Conservative Republicans before the fake Conservatives the Neocons took over. True Conservative Republicans conserve nature and resources, and protect liberty and freedoms and stop companies from becoming monopolies and abusing their power and trying to ruin smaller companies. Sort of the opposite of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
Teddy Roosevelt was upset over the DOJ's verdict with Microsoft, the DMCA allowing the MPAA and RIAA to bully consumers and sue them until they are broke by removing the "fair use" clause of the copyright act, and now that Apple is bullying Psystar, Teddy Roosevelt the trustbuster is back as a ghost and he is majorly upset at what has become of the USA, its foreign policy, and how companies like Microsoft and Apple have screwed over smaller companies. So he speaks softly, but carries a big stick and helped Lawyer up Psystar by citing some of the laws he worked with as well as some that others had passed as well.
I have one word for him, "Bully!" good job Mr. Roosevelt, we need more politicians to be more like you were when you were alive.
Thanks my son had an allergic food allergy while I was writing it and I had to finish it up fast because I couldn't figure out what my wife was talking about because it was thundering outside at the same time, and I thought she was trying to tell me to shut off my computer before it gets fried. I later learned my son developed hives from eating some snack with whey and milk cultures in it and might be allergic to milk, though he's eaten the same food before without a reaction. Might be something else instead.
Sorry about the mixup, we were in the hospital until 1am and I was up until 4am researching on the Internet what he could be allergic to. Then I crashed and just woke up to check the replies.
Atari found out with the 5200 that nobody wanted to buy a new system unless it ran the old legacy games, so the 7800 was made that ran the old 2600 games, but by that time the Intellivision, Colecovision had 2600 adapters and dozens of 2600 clones were being sold and anyone and their dog could make a 2600 game because Atari did not handle the game licensing properly.
By the time Atari got their act together, Nintendo ate their lunch with the NES or Famicom systems and Atari had millions of ET 2600 games they mass produced and other technology turds they couldn't get rid of so they crushed them and put them in landfills in New Mexico near Devil's Tower and tried to remake the Atari 800 series as 800XL but by that time Commodore ate their lunch in the home computer market.
Then Atari had an opportunity to make things right with the Lorrane project but they low balled Jay Miner and company and they moved to Commodore and made the Amiga project, by that time Ex-Commodore owner Jack Tramiel had been kicked out of Commodore like Steve Jobs was kicked out of Apple by shareholders, and Jack Tramiel bought out Atari and turned it into Commodore Part II and licensed GEM to make the Atari ST to compete with the Commodore Amiga.
Then Atari did good, until it released the Jaguar, but ST, TT, and Falcon sales made up for it, until IBM invented the IBM PS2 series and VGA and Microsoft bundled Windows with DOS, and then everyone and their dog made IBM PC clones with VGA and DOS and Windows and ate Commodore's and Atari's lunches.
Commodore went out of business but spun off the Amiga company, Atari also got bought out and sold and resold and while the ST/TT/Falcon died and TOS/GEM became open sourced. Amiga kept being developed as AmigaOS now and then AmigaAnywhere for cell phones to keep the Amiga games going on in a new format. But Atari became just a name that video game companies kept buying out and reselling.
Atari did try to do video game pizza joints, as Pizza Time and other names, until they got a brand name as Chuck E Cheese and sold out to Showbiz Pizza. Noland Bushnell tried to invest in video game arcades slash pizza joints and also tried to reinvent Atari as the Sente company.
I would say only if those 42% use easy to guess passwords or are stupid enough to save the passwords in their web browsers and email programs. Then again if a majority of computer users aren't smart enough to use a hard to guess password and aren't paranoid enough to avoid saving passwords in web browsers and email programs, they deserve to have their significant others snooping around their web and email accounts.
In America, spam sent by Russian Spammers gets deleted.
In Soviet Russia Russian Spammers get deleted.
#1 Linspire/Xandros turns Linux into a Mac OSX type OS by making it easier to use with more eye candy and available with a commercial license for $60 under a new name like Lindros, LinDOS, XanOS, or just LinspireOS. It will have commercial codexes, flash player, PDF viewer/converters, and they will partner up with IBM to have a small business version bundled with commercial IBM software for Linux bundled with it called something like LinBusiness, LinOffice, or XanWorks, or just Busnix.
#2 Shades of the Indrema, someone creates a distro of Linux for game consoles, and develops a video game standard written in Java and Python that runs under the LinStation or whatever standard it will be called. The Linstation Distro gets ported to the XBox 360, Wii, Playstation 3, and other platforms and all can run the Java and Python based games most of which are free and open sourced and available over the Internet. It will greatly upset Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft as it will cut into their console game sales, plus LinStation would be ported to PCs and Macs so they can run it as well as the game consoles.
#3 Thanks to ReactOS contributing to WINE, in three years WINE should be able to run most software made for Windows XP and below as long as it doesn't use proprietary copy protection, but in three years WINE will find a way to make SecureROM and other popular copy protection libraries work in WINE without violating EULA. By that time Windows 7.0 will be out, but Vista broke too many popular software packages and they didn't get rewritten for Vista. Once ReactOS is able to use Windows WDM drivers, the code will be shared with Linux giving it the ability to use Windows drivers if WINE is loaded, thanks to a kernel mod written by the ReactOS team.
#4 Novell will have perfected the Moonlight and Mono projects that Windows software written in Visual Studio 2008 and under will be able to be recompiled under Mono to run in Linux or any other platform that can run Mono. After Windows 7.0 turns into another bomb with bloated features and legacy software issues some companies are looking for a Linux or Mac OSX solution using Mono and Moonlight to run the Visual Studio and Silverlight custom applications that they developed or paid to have developed for them. Microsoft will try to sue, but Novell will reference the Lotus 123 verses Twin, and the Crosstalk cases showing that as long as no original code is used in the product, it can be used to run files and/or programs written for the original product. Also since Microsoft made Dotnet languages like C# and Visual BASIC.Net part of the ECMA standards, they can't put the Genie back in the bottle and other projects use those standards like DotGNU, etc.
#5 New PLCS will be based on Linux and have USB and CAT5 Ethernet ports in them. The old PLCS still use serial ports and only work with Windows XP and below and not Linux. The new PLCs will have Linux clients as well as Windows clients. An open source version of PLC control software using RLL will be released and be available for any Linux distro and emulate PLC devices for better development.
#6 Angry Mac Developers and Mac Users will create a WINE type project to run Mac OSX applications on Linux systems. It will be a GNUStep fork, and first be based on OpenStep standards and then have the Mac OSX API calls added to it. They will make a plug-in for GCC to compile X-Code and Objective-C code under Linux and start porting Darwin libraries for Darwin support at first, and then when they can support Mach Kernel and Darwin programs, they will start adding in Mac OSX support. The end result will be a Linux system that runs Mac OSX applications faster than Mac OSX can run them.
#7 AmigaOS 5.0 will finally be released, but it will be based on Linux, using the Amiga Workbench GUI instead of X86.org, chances are they will use the Yellowdog distro as it is a favorite of Amiga One owners. It will exist in PowerPC and Intel versions, and drivers will be written for old PowerMac systems that couldn't run Mac OSX, they will
Imagine what Commander Taco means? :)
I think he is more like 12, got a computer for his birthday and just figured out how to download songs for free over the Internet using the fake version of Kazza that installs Spyware and Trojans on his Windows system, running AOL 9.0 without the Antivirus option because he is not smart enough to enable it or update or activate it.
The old "If they aren't selling it recently, it is abandonware and free!" He most likely downloaded a trojan infected version of Windows XP because Vista sucked as it was too hard to figure out how to turn off that security guard from the Apple commercials.
Yes it is legal to download anything you want on the Internet without the RIAA suing you over it, Here's your sign! :)
If you have to ask if it is legal to download songs that were ripped from old 78s without the permission of the company that holds the copyright on the song, chances are you might need a sign that says "stupid". :)
some of the song lyrics are racist and at least one of them is x-rated and people have to request it.
The early 20th century had a lot of raw, dry, dark, and offensive humor in their songs. People who didn't grow up during those days will find it horribly offensive, esp during the WWII anti-Japanese years or during when segregation was still a law and songs mocked African-Americans.
Just a warning for people who are easily offended, some of these songs might offend them. So do us all a big favor if you are one of them and don't listen to those songs. Monty Python had a similar warning on their show for the same reasons.
suffered from that. :)
The Liberals in congress like Obama that voted to keep the domestic spying. If they didn't like it, why did they vote to keep it?
For the same reason a woman keeps going back to her abusive boyfriend no matter how many times he smacked her around or steals her money. Stupidity and an addiction to getting abused. It is the same reason why people use illegal drugs despite them causing cancer and other health risks.