it is that the system administrators did not do that sort of damage on purpose if it does indeed happen. The worm writers, on the other hand, knew what their worms would do and released them anyway. Unless, for some odd reason, the worms were not meant to be released and got released accidentally? I call that the "Morris Defense" after the Arpanet Worm.
Sort of like the difference between manslaughter and muder.:)
The Cuckoo Egg method, while it does not say to put Cuckoo Eggs on web sites, that would be the next logical step. However, one has to use their brain to figure that out.
Face it, two methods were thought of before the patent was filed. The patent is false, why can't you accept that? Unless you can show evidence that these people who filed the patent had the idea before the other two, I am going to stick with my theory that their patent is false.
Yes Piracy of Windows and other Microsoft products has gained MS more marketshare. When those organizations get audited, they have to pay fines and fees and buy the software as well.
I wonder if the SP2 upgrade can phone home that the copy is not legit and log as much information to Microsoft about the system in question that they can identify the organization using it and call for an audit? Obviously they can check the key with their database of generated keys to see if the key is a pirated key, or one that was not generated by Microsoft (IE a pirate keygen program).
If you fraudelently file a patent to prevent someone else from doing wrong, you are still doing wrong.
Besides in a way, this promotes piracy of MP3 files, by trying to take away a method meant to discourage it. I am not saying that method is right, just that neither method is right if something wrong is being done on both parts.
you create bogus web sites that have HTML descriptions of the file and link to the files for download that are Cuckoo Egg files. Then submit those web sites to search engines.
What you fail to recognize is that this is not just a US threat, it is a world threat. The worms released by Cyber Terrorists can just as easily infect systems throughout the world as they can US systems.
The more you ignore the problem, or the more you say it isn't terrorism, the worse it gets.
I have a Lindows system that is uneffected. I'd quit using Windows, but my college has software I need to run that requires Windows. Also the Online Library only works with IE. So I have no choice in those matters.
The worm had the potential to take power grids, etc offline.
The worm disrupted stock trading systems, organizations' Intranets, government systems, home users' systems, etc. Resulting in a denial of service in order to clean the worm off. Yes it did do damage, and while it did not blow anything up (thank goodness), it did instill a bit of terror into those who potentially could be infected.
While there was no apparent violence, there was damage to systems and a loss of service and more damage. There also was a spread of terror. Many people I knew were too afraid to even turn on their computers for fear that the Phatbot or Sasser worm would infect their systems.
Apparently you support this type of action and think the authors of said worms should be regarded as heroes? Well I do not, and think they should be brought to justice and held accountable for the damage they caused.
the Cuckoo's Egg project released the first egg in June 10, 2000, but the idea for that egg must have been thought of long before that.
Notice that the article does not tell the month, should it be July 2000, then the patent is false.
What makes this patent different from all the other false patents? Oh yeah, right, there was one-click ordering before Amazon.com first came online, etc. Apparently liars can file a patent before the originatior of the idea does and then sue them for it.
Alexander Gram Bell invented the telephone, right? Wrong! There was one invented before Bell did and another one. Many people still credit Bell for the invention of the telephone. IP Theives apparently can cash in on patents if they can file them quick enough.
A cuckoo egg is an MP3 file that typically contains 30 seconds of the original song with the remainder of the song overwritten with cuckoo clock noises, white noise, and/or voice messages such as, "Congratulations, you must've goofed up somewhere." Ideally, a cuckoo egg should have the same playing length as the music it pretends to be. The purpose of cuckoo eggs is to deter the downloading and sharing of MP3 files using Napster and similar approaches.
Typically, a Napster user downloads an MP3 file and sometimes share it with others before listening to it. Recognizing this, a cuckoo egg creator creates the cuckoo egg to look exactly like a real MP3 file. The user then unknowingly shares the cuckoo egg with other unsuspecting users spreading the cuckoo egg like a virus. Unlike a virus, cuckoo eggs do not damage computers, but simply annoy and waste the time of those who download the files.
The Cuckoo Egg Project began with Michael and Stephanie Fix. Stephanie Fix is a musician who is concerned about the illegal availability of copyrighted music through Napster. The concept centers on the idea of how a real cuckoo bird lays its eggs in another bird's nest. To the Fixes, the Napster system is like a huge nest of MP3 files, a perfect environment in which to lay cuckoo eggs
The first cuckoo egg was laid on June 10, 2000. Since then, Napster users have posted hundreds of angry messages at the Cuckoo Egg Project's Web site. Whether it's deterring them from downloading other songs has not been determined.
First spotted in June 10, 2000, so the patent is a false or fradulant one.
North Korea, for example, spends $3 Billion USD a year to have viruses developed. I wonder how many other countries have such a program?
Hmmm, commit an act of Cyber Terrorism like release a worm into the wild, and just because you do not live in the middle-east, you are automatically not a terrorist?
In the USA we have our own terrorists, perhaps you forgot about Oklahoma City?
Terrorism knows no countries or races or religions, it is an equal opportunity employer.
Yeah just a bunch of kids having fun.
"Hey Gunthar, look at this worm I wrote, it takes 250K bytes of space."
"That is nothing Wolfgang, my worm only takes 15K of code."
"Ok Gunthar, let us release both of them onto the Internet and see which one wins!"
"Ok, but afterwords let's brag about them on IRC."
Ugh, I worked with them. Once IE upgraded to 5.0 those ActiveX controls broke. We had to move to LeadTools instead. Also I do not think those controls worked too well with Windows 2000 either.
Perhaps MS broke those controls, who knows? All I know was that they were awful and a real pain to work with. There are easier ways to display a TIF file. We used TIF files for displaying documents, WTF? I told them to migrate to Acrobat Reader, but nooooooooo, the managers were too cheap to do that and forced us to use Wang ImageBASIC instead. We also used TIFs for Employee photos on an Intranet web page when PNG, JPEG, or even BMPs would have worked better and not required an ActiveX control to view them.
Glad I do not work there, the DotNet confusion and bugs delayed converting apps to DotNet since 2001, and it is now 2004 and they still have not converted every app. Oh well, there is always 2005 for them to finally finish it.;)
They know that IE code is breakable and IE 7.0 is not that much different from IE 6.0, so they want Mozilla Developers to do the work for them to integrate with Longhorn. So MS can steal^H^H^H^H^H^Hborrow the Firefox code and make IE 8.0 with it and add in the VB.NET, ActiveX, and other stuff that Mozilla/Firefox lacks.
Could the authors of both worms be part of some German Cyber Terrorist group?
It seems most worms originate from other countries besides the USA. Could the worms be part of some Cyber Terrorist attack? If so, who is funding the development of these worms?
This is the final straw, Comcast has dared too much. They are evil and must be stopped! Boycott them for this atrocity.
The next step would be them installing Spyware/Adware on your system to track what web sites you visit and create more pop-ups.
I have a DSL router shared between several systems. My ISP is paid for my bandwidth, if I happen to choose to share that bandwidth between my several systems, they do not have a right to restrict my access as I was promised "Unlimited Access" via DSL by their marketing department.
Good enough to run some Windows apps. I wonder if it is effected by the same Malware and Security breaches that Windows has, or if it is immune to it? If it is the later, I would be very interested in seeing ReactOS run more Windows applications in the near future.
Most OEM Helpdesks refuse to help the customer uninstall Spyware and Adware. They do not want to get sued by Spyware and Adware makers.
I found that Spysweeper works better than SpyBot or others. It scans memory and can prevent Spyware and Adware from installing and schedules a regular scan in case they do install.
If you run an X86 PC system with Windows, There is a solution to the malware problem if you are not too chicken to use it. Buy Crossover Office if you really want to run MS-Office and other MS-Junk. Yes you heard me right, leave that POS called Windows for an OS that does not suffer from such bad malware and security prolems.
Just copy and paste the face of your favorite celebrity onto one of the new skin bodies. Then copy and paste your face or someone else's face onto another body. Create a script on body positions and advanced animation and then create a video out of it and share it on a P2P network.
Imagine, Bea Arthur and Gary Coleman, or George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton, or Paul Ruben and Madona. Tons of scenarios that possibly cannot happen, you can create and share with the rest of the world.:)
I think I'll vomit now that I see what it can possible be used for.
Warbot 1Alpha seems to be upgrading itself out of control. I did not program that function into it. I will soon be shutting off it's net access and powering it down to disable it.
Sorry for the inconvenience, I'll go get a hammer and a wrench....:)
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it is that the system administrators did not do that sort of damage on purpose if it does indeed happen. The worm writers, on the other hand, knew what their worms would do and released them anyway. Unless, for some odd reason, the worms were not meant to be released and got released accidentally? I call that the "Morris Defense" after the Arpanet Worm.
:)
Sort of like the difference between manslaughter and muder.
The Cuckoo Egg method, while it does not say to put Cuckoo Eggs on web sites, that would be the next logical step. However, one has to use their brain to figure that out.
Face it, two methods were thought of before the patent was filed. The patent is false, why can't you accept that? Unless you can show evidence that these people who filed the patent had the idea before the other two, I am going to stick with my theory that their patent is false.
Yes Piracy of Windows and other Microsoft products has gained MS more marketshare. When those organizations get audited, they have to pay fines and fees and buy the software as well.
I wonder if the SP2 upgrade can phone home that the copy is not legit and log as much information to Microsoft about the system in question that they can identify the organization using it and call for an audit? Obviously they can check the key with their database of generated keys to see if the key is a pirated key, or one that was not generated by Microsoft (IE a pirate keygen program).
is that two wrongs do not make a right.
If you fraudelently file a patent to prevent someone else from doing wrong, you are still doing wrong.
Besides in a way, this promotes piracy of MP3 files, by trying to take away a method meant to discourage it. I am not saying that method is right, just that neither method is right if something wrong is being done on both parts.
you create bogus web sites that have HTML descriptions of the file and link to the files for download that are Cuckoo Egg files. Then submit those web sites to search engines.
an even earlier work that shows someone else had the idea before the people who filed for the patent.
To quote "The Rock" "It does not matter what you think!"
Viruses are a form of Cyber Terrorism.
Cyber Terrorism can use Worms
What you fail to recognize is that this is not just a US threat, it is a world threat. The worms released by Cyber Terrorists can just as easily infect systems throughout the world as they can US systems.
The more you ignore the problem, or the more you say it isn't terrorism, the worse it gets.
I have a Lindows system that is uneffected. I'd quit using Windows, but my college has software I need to run that requires Windows. Also the Online Library only works with IE. So I have no choice in those matters.
The worm had the potential to take power grids, etc offline.
The worm disrupted stock trading systems, organizations' Intranets, government systems, home users' systems, etc. Resulting in a denial of service in order to clean the worm off. Yes it did do damage, and while it did not blow anything up (thank goodness), it did instill a bit of terror into those who potentially could be infected.
While there was no apparent violence, there was damage to systems and a loss of service and more damage. There also was a spread of terror. Many people I knew were too afraid to even turn on their computers for fear that the Phatbot or Sasser worm would infect their systems.
Apparently you support this type of action and think the authors of said worms should be regarded as heroes? Well I do not, and think they should be brought to justice and held accountable for the damage they caused.
Notice that the article does not tell the month, should it be July 2000, then the patent is false.
What makes this patent different from all the other false patents? Oh yeah, right, there was one-click ordering before Amazon.com first came online, etc. Apparently liars can file a patent before the originatior of the idea does and then sue them for it.
Alexander Gram Bell invented the telephone, right? Wrong! There was one invented before Bell did and another one. Many people still credit Bell for the invention of the telephone. IP Theives apparently can cash in on patents if they can file them quick enough.
The Definition says:
First spotted in June 10, 2000, so the patent is a false or fradulant one.
North Korea is suspected of training hackers.
North Korea, for example, spends $3 Billion USD a year to have viruses developed. I wonder how many other countries have such a program?
Hmmm, commit an act of Cyber Terrorism like release a worm into the wild, and just because you do not live in the middle-east, you are automatically not a terrorist?
In the USA we have our own terrorists, perhaps you forgot about Oklahoma City?
Terrorism knows no countries or races or religions, it is an equal opportunity employer.
Yeah just a bunch of kids having fun.
"Hey Gunthar, look at this worm I wrote, it takes 250K bytes of space."
"That is nothing Wolfgang, my worm only takes 15K of code."
"Ok Gunthar, let us release both of them onto the Internet and see which one wins!"
"Ok, but afterwords let's brag about them on IRC."
"Deal!"
Ugh, I worked with them. Once IE upgraded to 5.0 those ActiveX controls broke. We had to move to LeadTools instead. Also I do not think those controls worked too well with Windows 2000 either.
;)
Perhaps MS broke those controls, who knows? All I know was that they were awful and a real pain to work with. There are easier ways to display a TIF file. We used TIF files for displaying documents, WTF? I told them to migrate to Acrobat Reader, but nooooooooo, the managers were too cheap to do that and forced us to use Wang ImageBASIC instead. We also used TIFs for Employee photos on an Intranet web page when PNG, JPEG, or even BMPs would have worked better and not required an ActiveX control to view them.
Glad I do not work there, the DotNet confusion and bugs delayed converting apps to DotNet since 2001, and it is now 2004 and they still have not converted every app. Oh well, there is always 2005 for them to finally finish it.
They know that IE code is breakable and IE 7.0 is not that much different from IE 6.0, so they want Mozilla Developers to do the work for them to integrate with Longhorn. So MS can steal^H^H^H^H^H^Hborrow the Firefox code and make IE 8.0 with it and add in the VB.NET, ActiveX, and other stuff that Mozilla/Firefox lacks.
but I was born in the good old USA.
"We regret to announce the following layoffs... Homer Simpson... that is all!"
Could the authors of both worms be part of some German Cyber Terrorist group?
It seems most worms originate from other countries besides the USA. Could the worms be part of some Cyber Terrorist attack? If so, who is funding the development of these worms?
The Warbot 1Alpha needs serious debugging. The nanobots got too smart and did serious upgrading beyond my control.
:)
I need funds so I can perfect the techniquie and build a billion of them to rule the world, er I mean explore space, yeah that's the ticket!
This is the final straw, Comcast has dared too much. They are evil and must be stopped! Boycott them for this atrocity.
The next step would be them installing Spyware/Adware on your system to track what web sites you visit and create more pop-ups.
I have a DSL router shared between several systems. My ISP is paid for my bandwidth, if I happen to choose to share that bandwidth between my several systems, they do not have a right to restrict my access as I was promised "Unlimited Access" via DSL by their marketing department.
as apparently Mr. Burns is running SCO and has a whole team of Homer Simpsons working for him. :)
Good enough to run some Windows apps. I wonder if it is effected by the same Malware and Security breaches that Windows has, or if it is immune to it? If it is the later, I would be very interested in seeing ReactOS run more Windows applications in the near future.
I found that Spysweeper works better than SpyBot or others. It scans memory and can prevent Spyware and Adware from installing and schedules a regular scan in case they do install.
If you run an X86 PC system with Windows, There is a solution to the malware problem if you are not too chicken to use it. Buy Crossover Office if you really want to run MS-Office and other MS-Junk. Yes you heard me right, leave that POS called Windows for an OS that does not suffer from such bad malware and security prolems.
Apparently Lindows, now known as Linspire, shared code and lent Xandros money to develop their own Linux much like Lindows.
PC OnRamp AKA EPC sells Xandros for $40USD on an install CD.
Just copy and paste the face of your favorite celebrity onto one of the new skin bodies. Then copy and paste your face or someone else's face onto another body. Create a script on body positions and advanced animation and then create a video out of it and share it on a P2P network.
:)
Imagine, Bea Arthur and Gary Coleman, or George W. Bush and Hillary Clinton, or Paul Ruben and Madona. Tons of scenarios that possibly cannot happen, you can create and share with the rest of the world.
I think I'll vomit now that I see what it can possible be used for.
Warbot 1Alpha seems to be upgrading itself out of control. I did not program that function into it. I will soon be shutting off it's net access and powering it down to disable it.
:)
Sorry for the inconvenience, I'll go get a hammer and a wrench....
I built it/him better than I thought I did?