Second, because sarcasm is the lowest form of expression. Say what you mean. Use your words.
Just because you didn't get the subtleness doesn't mean you need to try to counteract it with faux elitism. I figured anyone who even remotely knew the situation would more than likely grin. Enough said:)
Then again, you're defending socialism and communism here, so perhaps you're just an idiot.
You might want to re-read it, Tiger. I wasn't defending anything, merely bringing the proper context to light. You never have opened up anything more than the school books, have you? You speak like it, considering the obvious bias. Socialism wasn't all bad, merely the implementation of the end resulting Communism in Russia.
I advise a pretty decent book to learn more about this subject: Marx on Religion. A very interesting book, just don't get sucked into it too far like some people have and start to idolize the writing.
Well, er... what ever happened to the old days *before digital technology* where people did things in the real world because they could sell the results?
Those people downsized, and started producing what we have today;)
You're actually saying everybody who creates, researches, thinks, or analyses for a living is wasting their time - the output of that activity has no intrinsic value. I'm sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I have to - I'm a writer.
I didn't say everybody, I was stating my opinion about the items on the web today. Would you become a member of CNN's pay portion so you can view the videos? (turn on the TV, there ya are...) Now research is by nature released freely via grants and so forth. Depending on the writing, if it interests me, I'll buy the book. But, internet, probably not unless it was a modest fee that is free of the cost of printing and so forth.
Sounds to me like you're admitting that you're wasting your life. Spending so much time accessing online services which don't actually enhance the value of your life one iota (if they did, you'd surely be willing to pay for them, right?). Maybe if you spent your time more productively, you'd be able to earn more and afford to splash out on little online luxuries from time to time?
Now you're hitting below the belt. Are you trying to say I waste my life because I access 10-20 websites via bookmarks throughout my day at work when I'm waiting for machines to finish their tasks? Yahoo movies, and so forth enhance my life, but your absolutely right.. I probably wouldn't pay for it if it became a pay site. I have a "feel" for things in my life, and if I come to rely upon it, or it really moves me in some way to use it, I'd pay for it. So far, only one thing has done that... online bill pay. Saves me time, and stamps. I used to pay for it (4 bucks a month) until my bank made it free. I spend my time doing plenty of productive things, learning new technologies, putting out fires, and in the little bit of time I have to myself I'll do as I please. Until everything on the net is pay-to-play... Then, I'll be down to 2 things probably... google, and bill pay. Because that's all I'd use the web for if I had to pay for the commercial sites. Come to think about it, google wouldn't be of much use, then...
I'd much rather splash out a little cash on fixing up my car or having fun with my family than spending it on online luxuries.
That would mean that you'd only be able to get 8 of those things, which would mean you don't get a candybar or anything else.
About the same here... except I'm a cheap bastard with a reasonable salary living relatively far from work (30-45 mins) and a family to support. I cringe at the ~$40/month for DirecTV, but ya know... it's better than antenna in quality, and better than cable around here, price-wise.
Then you sir/ma'am, are among the minority. So you must be ostracized!!!! consider yourself ostracized.
but seriously, the whole puzzle thing has it's place. I used to love Zelda before. However, I'm not about to continue in the whole series because quite honestly buying a gamecube would be a waste. *all* of the games are without violence, almost.
Personally, I rather enjoy killing a person through the scope of a high-powered sniper rifle at long-range. It's too bad there are no games like that for gamecube....
and those other people can be in Singapore, Malaysia, Tahiti, Siberia.. you name it.
I seriously doubt that they are all located in the United States considering the population is only something like 292 million in 2003. (information from http://www.prb.org//Template.cfm?Section=PRB&templ ate=/Content/ContentGroups/Datasheets/2003_World_P opulation_Data_Sheet.htm inside of a PDF file)
This is probably the same guy that sued McDonald's for spilling hot coffee in his own damn lap
Her.
It wasn't frivolous... she had to get skin grafts done on her entire inner thighs and legs because she had 3rd degree burns. That coffee was more than hot, it was scalding to the point of being able to melt skin. Not to mention she was wearing sweat pants... I cringe at the thought of that.
Here's an excerpt from a website ( http://www.vanfirm.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.ht m ) about the incident: two years earlier, Stella Liebeck had bought a 49-cent cup of coffee at the drive-in window of an Albuquerque McDonald's, and while removing the lid to add cream and sugar had spilled it, causing third-degree burns of the groin, inner thighs and buttocks. Her suit, filed in state court in Albuquerque, claimed the coffee was "defective" because it was so hot.
What the jury didn't realize initially was the severity of her burns. Told during the trial of Mrs. Liebeck's seven days in the hospital and her skin grafts, and shown gruesome photographs, jurors began taking the matter more seriously.
Whats next? WWW and email buttons on my computer? How about a Windows key to get in your way every time you go to use the left control?
Believe it or not, my keyboard has buttons at the top for WWW and email.... Now, if I could get them to work under Linux, I could hit the WWW button to bring up Firebird:P
We can't grasp the concept of monetary value for digital things. We can't wrap our brains around the idea that those digital things took work to create, and people that made them want to be paid for them.
Oh, we can grasp it with our tiny little minds just fine, thanks for playing. We just don't like it. There's a very big difference between not comprehending it, and not liking it.
I for one have issues with it simply because the value is just not there. Obviously if I personally paid a small amount for all of the little things that I use on the net, I'd be dead broke. It's called nickel-and-diming you to death... and quite honestly I'm already being nickel-and-dimed to death with everything else.
Sure, you say that $10 is a single days dinner. Well, I'm sure it is. $700 is someones single days dinner somewhere, too! To be quite honest, most of things I use just aren't worth the hassle of not eating for a day. What ever happened to the old days *before the dot-com era* where people did things on the net because they thought it was (awesome | fun | informative | gave something back to the community | the-next-best-thing-since-sliced-bread)? That's how Linux was started.
To be quite honest, I personally think that if you rely entirely on the web for your existence, your making a huge mistake. Unless you have a niche market, or your just damned good at what you do.
If MS ever started selling Office exclusively as a download, they'd lose millions of dollars. Because Office just wouldn't feel like a real product to them. Put a CD in that consumers hand, though, and they're more willing to pay for it.
How many individuals honestly go out and buy MSOffice on CD without a life-or-death emergency pushing them? The majority of the market usually ends up getting it with their system, prepackaged. Most think it's just a part of Windows.... I've known quite a few people that found out that they need MS-Office for some reason like college, and they didn't have it. (neophytes mostly, not people like you and I who are seasoned in "computers") The majority of them went to the store and nearly jumped out of their skin when they saw the price. Most of them, because of the necessity of it in order to continue with their tasks, purchased it through other means such as the college bookstore. (far cheaper because of a student discount) But, the honest to god truth is that unless faced with an emergency like not being able to do your college schoolwork without it, you just don't need it if it isn't available on your computer already. So, the media in which it's distributed quite honestly would only affect IT personnel who would then need to burn it to a CD for safe-keeping before including it into the standard Ghost image:)
I guess I should have worded it differently than saying stealthy. I was being a bit sarcastic in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way.
And you are exactly right, precisely right.
Sometimes I wish people would not think that Russian communism == socialism. That's not directed at you, just some of the past posts I've seen in regards to it. Though they might have been called a socialist republic, they sure didn't practice it.
Communist China is an offshoot of the Communist regime of Russia, and Cuba was just a military takeover, essentially. Castro gained power through a military coup.
yeesh.. thanks for bringing the Japanese-American thing up. I drive by where they were kept back in WWII whenever I go to my wife's parent's house. Bleak reminder of just what attrocities can occur at the hands of our govt. Kinda ironic, the camps being on the Navajo reservation....
Do you wanna know the first thing I thought of when I read the name? Bob Dylan. I then thought "old" almost instinctually. I'm not putting it down, I'm just saying what I thought, and being honest.
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I would put up a site offering material designed to appeal to them, then try to trace the downloads.
From my understanding of the law, that's either fully entrapment, or at the very least borderline entrapment...
Haha! yes! I love that... :)
I use that one occasionally to lighten up conversations
*pulls out anonymous coward spray* begone!
haha
*rolls eyes*
yeah, a pointless post, but seems it won't be the first.
Second, because sarcasm is the lowest form of expression. Say what you mean. Use your words.
:)
Just because you didn't get the subtleness doesn't mean you need to try to counteract it with faux elitism.
I figured anyone who even remotely knew the situation would more than likely grin. Enough said
Then again, you're defending socialism and communism here, so perhaps you're just an idiot.
You might want to re-read it, Tiger. I wasn't defending anything, merely bringing the proper context to light.
You never have opened up anything more than the school books, have you? You speak like it, considering the obvious bias. Socialism wasn't all bad, merely the implementation of the end resulting Communism in Russia.
I advise a pretty decent book to learn more about this subject: Marx on Religion. A very interesting book, just don't get sucked into it too far like some people have and start to idolize the writing.
Re-read your history books, there were many, many, MANY deaths there.
Well, er... what ever happened to the old days *before digital technology* where people did things in the real world because they could sell the results?
;)
Those people downsized, and started producing what we have today
You're actually saying everybody who creates, researches, thinks, or analyses for a living is wasting their time - the output of that activity has no intrinsic value. I'm sorry, but I respectfully disagree. I have to - I'm a writer.
I didn't say everybody, I was stating my opinion about the items on the web today. Would you become a member of CNN's pay portion so you can view the videos? (turn on the TV, there ya are...)
Now research is by nature released freely via grants and so forth. Depending on the writing, if it interests me, I'll buy the book. But, internet, probably not unless it was a modest fee that is free of the cost of printing and so forth.
Sounds to me like you're admitting that you're wasting your life. Spending so much time accessing online services which don't actually enhance the value of your life one iota (if they did, you'd surely be willing to pay for them, right?). Maybe if you spent your time more productively, you'd be able to earn more and afford to splash out on little online luxuries from time to time?
Now you're hitting below the belt. Are you trying to say I waste my life because I access 10-20 websites via bookmarks throughout my day at work when I'm waiting for machines to finish their tasks?
Yahoo movies, and so forth enhance my life, but your absolutely right.. I probably wouldn't pay for it if it became a pay site. I have a "feel" for things in my life, and if I come to rely upon it, or it really moves me in some way to use it, I'd pay for it. So far, only one thing has done that... online bill pay. Saves me time, and stamps. I used to pay for it (4 bucks a month) until my bank made it free.
I spend my time doing plenty of productive things, learning new technologies, putting out fires, and in the little bit of time I have to myself I'll do as I please. Until everything on the net is pay-to-play...
Then, I'll be down to 2 things probably... google, and bill pay. Because that's all I'd use the web for if I had to pay for the commercial sites. Come to think about it, google wouldn't be of much use, then...
I'd much rather splash out a little cash on fixing up my car or having fun with my family than spending it on online luxuries.
Too right.
That would mean that you'd only be able to get 8 of those things, which would mean you don't get a candybar or anything else.
About the same here... except I'm a cheap bastard with a reasonable salary living relatively far from work (30-45 mins) and a family to support. I cringe at the ~$40/month for DirecTV, but ya know... it's better than antenna in quality, and better than cable around here, price-wise.
Anything for KDE?
I prefer KDE over Gnome... no religious war, just a preference.
Well, KDE and WindowMaker.
You are my hero, I worship you.
I'd consider 29 to be grown up. :P
So get out of your parent's basement and shut up
Then you sir/ma'am, are among the minority.
So you must be ostracized!!!!
consider yourself ostracized.
but seriously, the whole puzzle thing has it's place. I used to love Zelda before. However, I'm not about to continue in the whole series because quite honestly buying a gamecube would be a waste. *all* of the games are without violence, almost.
Personally, I rather enjoy killing a person through the scope of a high-powered sniper rifle at long-range. It's too bad there are no games like that for gamecube....
and those other people can be in Singapore, Malaysia, Tahiti, Siberia.. you name it.
l ate=/Content/ContentGroups/Datasheets/2003_World_P opulation_Data_Sheet.htm inside of a PDF file)
I seriously doubt that they are all located in the United States considering the population is only something like 292 million in 2003.
(information from http://www.prb.org//Template.cfm?Section=PRB&temp
This is probably the same guy that sued McDonald's for spilling hot coffee in his own damn lap
t m ) about the incident:
Her.
It wasn't frivolous... she had to get skin grafts done on her entire inner thighs and legs because she had 3rd degree burns. That coffee was more than hot, it was scalding to the point of being able to melt skin. Not to mention she was wearing sweat pants... I cringe at the thought of that.
Here's an excerpt from a website ( http://www.vanfirm.com/mcdonalds-coffee-lawsuit.h
two years earlier, Stella Liebeck had bought a 49-cent cup of coffee at the drive-in window of an Albuquerque McDonald's, and while removing the lid to add cream and sugar had spilled it, causing third-degree burns of the groin, inner thighs and buttocks. Her suit, filed in state court in Albuquerque, claimed the coffee was "defective" because it was so hot.
What the jury didn't realize initially was the severity of her burns. Told during the trial of Mrs. Liebeck's seven days in the hospital and her skin grafts, and shown gruesome photographs, jurors began taking the matter more seriously.
Yeah, but when was the last time you did that for 8 hours straight?
Whats next? WWW and email buttons on my computer? How about a Windows key to get in your way every time you go to use the left control?
:P
Believe it or not, my keyboard has buttons at the top for WWW and email....
Now, if I could get them to work under Linux, I could hit the WWW button to bring up Firebird
Noooo, we'll just use Microsoft Wallet and all of the sites will just tell wallet to send them cash for the stuff you're accessing! It's euphoria!
(sarcasm)
God, I'm so glad that didn't work out...
I imagine it was equally as hard when the government said, "This green piece of paper is worth 5 sheep."
:)
That's why our currency (was) backed up in Gold.
It gave it some substance that people knew
We are exceedingly cheap.
:)
I much prefer the term "working class".
We can't grasp the concept of monetary value for digital things. We can't wrap our brains around the idea that those digital things took work to create, and people that made them want to be paid for them.
Oh, we can grasp it with our tiny little minds just fine, thanks for playing. We just don't like it. There's a very big difference between not comprehending it, and not liking it.
I for one have issues with it simply because the value is just not there. Obviously if I personally paid a small amount for all of the little things that I use on the net, I'd be dead broke. It's called nickel-and-diming you to death... and quite honestly I'm already being nickel-and-dimed to death with everything else.
Sure, you say that $10 is a single days dinner. Well, I'm sure it is. $700 is someones single days dinner somewhere, too! To be quite honest, most of things I use just aren't worth the hassle of not eating for a day. What ever happened to the old days *before the dot-com era* where people did things on the net because they thought it was (awesome | fun | informative | gave something back to the community | the-next-best-thing-since-sliced-bread)? That's how Linux was started.
To be quite honest, I personally think that if you rely entirely on the web for your existence, your making a huge mistake. Unless you have a niche market, or your just damned good at what you do.
If MS ever started selling Office exclusively as a download, they'd lose millions of dollars. Because Office just wouldn't feel like a real product to them. Put a CD in that consumers hand, though, and they're more willing to pay for it.
How many individuals honestly go out and buy MSOffice on CD without a life-or-death emergency pushing them? The majority of the market usually ends up getting it with their system, prepackaged. Most think it's just a part of Windows.... I've known quite a few people that found out that they need MS-Office for some reason like college, and they didn't have it. (neophytes mostly, not people like you and I who are seasoned in "computers") The majority of them went to the store and nearly jumped out of their skin when they saw the price. Most of them, because of the necessity of it in order to continue with their tasks, purchased it through other means such as the college bookstore. (far cheaper because of a student discount) But, the honest to god truth is that unless faced with an emergency like not being able to do your college schoolwork without it, you just don't need it if it isn't available on your computer already. So, the media in which it's distributed quite honestly would only affect IT personnel who would then need to burn it to a CD for safe-keeping before including it into the standard Ghost image
I guess I should have worded it differently than saying stealthy. I was being a bit sarcastic in a tongue-in-cheek sort of way.
And you are exactly right, precisely right.
Sometimes I wish people would not think that Russian communism == socialism. That's not directed at you, just some of the past posts I've seen in regards to it.
Though they might have been called a socialist republic, they sure didn't practice it.
Communist China is an offshoot of the Communist regime of Russia, and Cuba was just a military takeover, essentially. Castro gained power through a military coup.
the poet?
:)
http://www.poets.org/poets/poets.cfm?prmID=151
No, I didn't know who Dylan Thomas is... however, Google is your friend
yeesh.. thanks for bringing the Japanese-American thing up. I drive by where they were kept back in WWII whenever I go to my wife's parent's house. Bleak reminder of just what attrocities can occur at the hands of our govt. Kinda ironic, the camps being on the Navajo reservation....
Or it could backfire on all of us, and they could simply hand over the cash without a thought.
Thus, legitimizing SCO's case even further.
I call myself a geek with taste :P
I could never get into the Monty Python genre of humour. It just seemed assinine.
It's probably the name, honestly.
Do you wanna know the first thing I thought of when I read the name?
Bob Dylan.
I then thought "old" almost instinctually.
I'm not putting it down, I'm just saying what I thought, and being honest.