"whatcouldpossiblygowrong" tag on Slashdot? What does this say about our society It says that we are in a post-modern society: We recycle idioms to express our fear of the unintended consequences of progress.
I'll bring this up again though: A voice came out of a fire, therefore the voice is that of the creator of the universe? I don't understand the question. When you pointed me to a passage saying that Moses' god is the only god around, his supporting logic for that statement was that a voice came from a fire.
I think it's quite a big leap from "talking flame" to "creator of the entire universe". I also think that a man educated by pharaohs and high priests can pull that off without supernatural help.
So do you think that if a voice appears to be coming from a flame, it means that this is the voice of the entity that created the entire universe?
Wow, can you imagine how cool this would be with respect to video games? Drop in some photos, crank up the customized first person shooter, and zoooom! You could even take photos or shots from movies and do the same thing (e.g., using Star Wars stills).
There can be NO END to the verys to describe how much of a very, very, VERY bad idea making a CounterStrike map of your school/mall/town/etc would be. The crazy old men from florida have won:(
First, they said that 95 was buggy and that 98 fixed them. Then, 98 was too unstable and XP was rock solid. Last year, XP was too old and Vista was new and shiny. Now, Vista is bloated and MinWin is lean.
Could perhaps Microsoft decide if their products are good or bad?
The one you haven't bought yet is good. The one you already paid for is bad.
Who cares where the funding comes from? Science is Science. The funding comes with a copyright notice and a non disclosure agreement. If the corporation doing the funding don't like the results, the research is not published, and another methodology is devised to obtain the desired conclusion.
Eliminating this gene from the entire species could wind up killing us all off in the end. Since when has the entire species ever been reached by anything?
While I appreciate that there will be all sorts of concerns raised with the rise of biotechnology, do realize that Gattaca's world is a bit... oversimplified. Think about it. There are basically two classes of people: astronauts and janitors. And police inspectors, and doctors, and 12-fingered musicians.
I guess you ignore inconvenient truths, and like to fabricate convenient and hyperbolic hypothetical scenarios to advance your case. This, of course, along with ad-hominem attacks and an assumption that anyone who criticizes the courses of action advanced by radical environmentalism is a robber-baron capitalist who would rape the earth and leave it scarred for future generations, as opposed to someone who might actually prefer to think things through as opposed to act on emotion, and doesn't share the religion of the Enviros, are hallmarks of the current Enviro movement. Junkscience is funded by the industries it promotes.
Go fuck yourself with your enviro-nut strawman, you ass, and DIAF.
DDT losing its effectiveness over time is a non-sequitur in the ban or not ban decision. If it isn't effective, people won't use it. And if it's losing effectiveness gradually, people will use more and more of it as it does. The salesmen will assure them that they simply need to spray more of it to reach the places they missed.
Why is corporate propaganda any less valid than Gaianist? I don't know what's a gaianist, so I don't understand your false dichotomy, but corporate propaganda is invalid because it is a lie masquerading as information. They'll use profits from sales of addictive poison to fund fake research that says that their product is good for you.
I'm not bothered by this much. So I have to wait a few weeks for my toy... so long as they keep doing what they do (large-scale high-tech charity), and doing it well, I will not fault them for sucking at what they don't normally do.
Well sir, you are the exception. In my experience, products that didn't ship in a timely fashion usually resulted in hundreds of angry phone calls, and later, truckloads of angry e-mails. All of which could have been avoided if there had just been more detailed logistics planning.
Well, it's a charity, and I waited 'till the last minute to finally give in, so I'm not reacting like I would if I was dealing with a business. Aside from that, well, thank you, I am exceptional!:-)
Coffee is supposed to be brewed HOT. It is supposed to be served HOT. I'm drinking a cold coffee as I type this. When I was in japan I told people that where I come from, you can't get cold coffee, and that seemed weird and alien to them.
The point of the woman's lawsuit was that handing people flimsy cups of dangerously hot liquids at a drive-through was not a good idea.
Does anybody know if there is a chance for the G1G1 thing to happen in Europe too? Europeans interested in the One Laptop Per Child Project's XO laptop may soon have the chance through a "give one, get one" offer similar to that offered in North America last year. "At some point we might do it in Europe," said Walter Bender, OLPC's president,
He is absolutely correct; a half-million units shipped to just 12 to 15 destinations *IS* simple by comparison. Just look at the complexities of UPS' operations in moving 80000 packages within the boundaries of the US, and that becomes apparent.
Tue, but UPS manages to do it effectively. So does Fedex.
But shipping things to people is what these guys do. Getting me a laptop is not what OLPC does, this is just a one-off stunt, and the demand has overwhelmed them.
I'm not bothered by this much. So I have to wait a few weeks for my toy... so long as they keep doing what they do (large-scale high-tech charity), and doing it well, I will not fault them for sucking at what they don't normally do.
I placed a G1G1 order near the end of 2007, and the only confirmation I ever received was a PayPal payment confirmation. Can anyone tell me if I should have received some sort of confirmation email from the OLPC Foundation itself?
I consider my G1G1 order to mostly be a charitable contribution, so I'm fine if it takes them quite a while to ship my laptop. But I'd like to have some sort of confirmation from OLPC to let me know that they even realize I placed one. Did other folks receiving any other sort of confirmation before being told that their laptop was supposed to ship at X date? I've tried contacting the OLPC folks, but I have never been able to reach anyone. I had the same problem, turns out my confirmation email was in my gmail spam folder, I just found it there.
Seriously, corporations suck - in my experience they're much more hopeless than government organisations. I reckon that whoever says the opposite has an agenda.
If you don't like a company's service, you can always choose another. Nope.
I'm a December 14th donor; while I'm a little disappointed that it hasn't reached me yet, I've no problem cutting OLPC quite a bit of slack, as what matters most is the "GIVE 1" part of the G1G1 program. There are plenty of articles showing that kids in less fortunate areas have started using them and they are a hit. Because OLPC is fulfilling that part of the promise, I will be patient and forgive them those delays, although I am somewhat less forgiving of the subcontractors (but not terribly so).
I can wait a couple more weeks; the only thing that bugs me is that I can't play with it right now, as I've seen and handled an XO and it is so neat:) Amen, brother. But this article got me following links, one of them gave a very basic hint I should have thought about before: Check your spam bin. Turns out OLPC had been sending me status updates about the delays and whatnot, I was just not seeing them.
Lots of people worried about birds or "The Ecosystem". Very few seem to be worried about the millions of PEOPLE who die HORRIBLE DEATHS thanks to Dengue fever. You know what happens if you fuck up the ecosystem? Millions of people die horrible deaths thanks to famine, landslides, brush fires, etc.
You are reading that into the passage to further your own preconception. Maybe. I'll bring this up again though: A voice came out of a fire, therefore the voice is that of the creator of the universe?
Finally, as to 2 Peter 2:10-11, why do you assume "celestial beings" refers to "other gods"? The word "doxas" can refer to any of a number of things, including angels, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, God the Father, and even of Christians who have died. "Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings"
There is no way this refers to mortals or angels. Angels are ranked between men and celestials in this hierarchy. Please stop making yourself look foolish by saying "there is no way" when, in fact, it is what the word means. I am not an expert on everything, but I can read and analyze the Greek texts with some basic proficiency, enough to be able to compare word usages. So when someone says a word cannot mean a certain thing, I can look to find if it is ever used that way. And, in fact, it is used that way, often.
In fact, there is no evidence that the word used here, "doxas," ever refers primarily to a specific group of beings in a hierarchy. It is used to refer to all kinds of heavenly beings. "Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings"
You've got men. You've got Angels. And you've got your celestial doxas.
Angels are above men (they are stronger and more powerful). Angels are below the celestial beings.
Clearly, 3 words were used to refer to 3 different things here, and they were ordered according to their power.
There is no way IN THIS FUCKING PASSAGE, that the celestial beings are the angels who dare not slander them or the men who aren't even as powerful as the angels that dare not slander them. Fuck, seriously, I'm not making myself look foolish here, you're just... being dense. There is no way that the celestial beings there are the very men that shouldn't slander them or the angels that don't dare slander them. These groups are clearly set apart. There's mortal, below angel, and below their god, which respects the celestial beings and expects his servants to do so as well.
It cannot mean both the group that is respected and the groups that owe it respect.
Did Fox over sensationalize what was going on and mislead the public? Yes, of course, that's their job! It sells.
No! You can't do that, I know all news shows in the US have to compete for profit, but there have to be a limit to what you can say and still call yourself a News show. If all you do is reporting one side of the story you are not a journalist, you are just a propaganda machine. Now you're starting to get it.
Well, Bill Gates is on the record (1995) for deriding other CEOs as having only "finite greed" and not being competitive enough by moving into new markets. Odd that he would call for "kinder capitalism." The key is right in the summary: "Governments should set policies and disburse funds to create financial incentives for businesses" He just wants humanitarian aid to pass through his business so he can skim a bit off the top.
First, there are many mentions that there is only one God, and that others are false. I already gave you some (despite your incorrect claim that none exist). And all other statements must be taken in that context. My claim that none exist? Fuck you. I never claimed that there weren't parts where the bible contradicts itself.
God is jealous of the time and attention that people give to these false gods, whether they exist or not. What a petty, immature being. You're worshiping that guy? He's got the emotional maturity of a five year old single child.
Finally, as to 2 Peter 2:10-11, why do you assume "celestial beings" refers to "other gods"? The word "doxas" can refer to any of a number of things, including angels, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, God the Father, and even of Christians who have died. "Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings"
There is no way this refers to mortals or angels. Angels are ranked between men and celestials in this hierarchy.
you are cherry-picking examples, and reading into them, to fit your preconceptions. "And all other statements must be taken in that context."
Take the fucking beam out of your eye before telling me there's a speck in mine, hypocrite.
You're the one with the preconception, I'm just reading the bible for what it is. You told me that when other gods are mentioned, there are clear indications that they are false gods. I quoted you a whole bunch of examples right from the source where that simply isn't the case. You gave me deuteronomy 4, where there are sporadic indications that the other gods aren't real, but the examples given as reasons to believe in that other god are laughable: Pyrotechnics, assassinations and acoustics. "Ohhhh, a voice came out of the fire, it must be the creator of the entire universe and all life!!!" "Ohhh, all the people who didn't obey Moses died, it must be an act of god! Not poison, nah, couldn't be poison, gotta be a god what gone an' done it."
You're taking a retcon (retroactive monotheism) and making it apply indiscriminately to all inconsistent statements by warping the meaning of "other gods" to "false gods". Seriously, it says "other", you tell me it says "false". WTF is wrong with you? No wait, I know very precisely what is wrong with you: You're acting out of bad faith.
Anyone that says that the current theory of evolution is fact isn't being scientific. The fact of the evolution of life that we can observe is best explained by the current theory, the first draft of which was introduced by Charles Darwin. His theory is much better than the previous theory proposed by Lamarck which did not pass the tests against it.
But the fact that there is a theory to explain evolution doesn't make evolution any less of a fact.
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I think it's quite a big leap from "talking flame" to "creator of the entire universe".
I also think that a man educated by pharaohs and high priests can pull that off without supernatural help.
So do you think that if a voice appears to be coming from a flame, it means that this is the voice of the entity that created the entire universe?
Supporting Shari'a, strict dressing, beards and stuff.
BOO! "The Judgment of the unbeliever is that he is killed."
Hmmm, please don't kill me?
Wow, can you imagine how cool this would be with respect to video games? Drop in some photos, crank up the customized first person shooter, and zoooom! You could even take photos or shots from movies and do the same thing (e.g., using Star Wars stills).
There can be NO END to the verys to describe how much of a very, very, VERY bad idea making a CounterStrike map of your school/mall/town/etc would be. The crazy old men from florida have won
First, they said that 95 was buggy and that 98 fixed them. Then, 98 was too unstable and XP was rock solid. Last year, XP was too old and Vista was new and shiny. Now, Vista is bloated and MinWin is lean.
Could perhaps Microsoft decide if their products are good or bad?
The one you haven't bought yet is good.The one you already paid for is bad.
If the corporation doing the funding don't like the results, the research is not published, and another methodology is devised to obtain the desired conclusion.
Go fuck yourself with your enviro-nut strawman, you ass, and DIAF.
AS for DDT: Insects acquire immunity over time, and it accumulates in the food chain.
Well sir, you are the exception. In my experience, products that didn't ship in a timely fashion usually resulted in hundreds of angry phone calls, and later, truckloads of angry e-mails. All of which could have been avoided if there had just been more detailed logistics planning.
Well, it's a charity, and I waited 'till the last minute to finally give in, so I'm not reacting like I would if I was dealing with a business.Aside from that, well, thank you, I am exceptional!
When I was in japan I told people that where I come from, you can't get cold coffee, and that seemed weird and alien to them.
The point of the woman's lawsuit was that handing people flimsy cups of dangerously hot liquids at a drive-through was not a good idea.
"At some point we might do it in Europe," said Walter Bender, OLPC's president,
Tue, but UPS manages to do it effectively. So does Fedex.
But shipping things to people is what these guys do.Getting me a laptop is not what OLPC does, this is just a one-off stunt, and the demand has overwhelmed them.
I'm not bothered by this much. So I have to wait a few weeks for my toy... so long as they keep doing what they do (large-scale high-tech charity), and doing it well, I will not fault them for sucking at what they don't normally do.
I consider my G1G1 order to mostly be a charitable contribution, so I'm fine if it takes them quite a while to ship my laptop. But I'd like to have some sort of confirmation from OLPC to let me know that they even realize I placed one. Did other folks receiving any other sort of confirmation before being told that their laptop was supposed to ship at X date? I've tried contacting the OLPC folks, but I have never been able to reach anyone. I had the same problem, turns out my confirmation email was in my gmail spam folder, I just found it there.
I can wait a couple more weeks; the only thing that bugs me is that I can't play with it right now, as I've seen and handled an XO and it is so neat
Turns out OLPC had been sending me status updates about the delays and whatnot, I was just not seeing them.
I'll bring this up again though: A voice came out of a fire, therefore the voice is that of the creator of the universe?
There is no way this refers to mortals or angels. Angels are ranked between men and celestials in this hierarchy. Please stop making yourself look foolish by saying "there is no way" when, in fact, it is what the word means. I am not an expert on everything, but I can read and analyze the Greek texts with some basic proficiency, enough to be able to compare word usages. So when someone says a word cannot mean a certain thing, I can look to find if it is ever used that way. And, in fact, it is used that way, often.
In fact, there is no evidence that the word used here, "doxas," ever refers primarily to a specific group of beings in a hierarchy. It is used to refer to all kinds of heavenly beings. "Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings; 11yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings"
You've got men.
You've got Angels.
And you've got your celestial doxas.
Angels are above men (they are stronger and more powerful).
Angels are below the celestial beings.
Clearly, 3 words were used to refer to 3 different things here, and they were ordered according to their power.
There is no way IN THIS FUCKING PASSAGE, that the celestial beings are the angels who dare not slander them or the men who aren't even as powerful as the angels that dare not slander them.
Fuck, seriously, I'm not making myself look foolish here, you're just... being dense. There is no way that the celestial beings there are the very men that shouldn't slander them or the angels that don't dare slander them. These groups are clearly set apart.
There's mortal, below angel, and below their god, which respects the celestial beings and expects his servants to do so as well.
It cannot mean both the group that is respected and the groups that owe it respect.
No! You can't do that, I know all news shows in the US have to compete for profit, but there have to be a limit to what you can say and still call yourself a News show. If all you do is reporting one side of the story you are not a journalist, you are just a propaganda machine. Now you're starting to get it.
He just wants humanitarian aid to pass through his business so he can skim a bit off the top.
There is no way this refers to mortals or angels. Angels are ranked between men and celestials in this hierarchy. you are cherry-picking examples, and reading into them, to fit your preconceptions. "And all other statements must be taken in that context."
Take the fucking beam out of your eye before telling me there's a speck in mine, hypocrite.
You're the one with the preconception, I'm just reading the bible for what it is. You told me that when other gods are mentioned, there are clear indications that they are false gods. I quoted you a whole bunch of examples right from the source where that simply isn't the case. You gave me deuteronomy 4, where there are sporadic indications that the other gods aren't real, but the examples given as reasons to believe in that other god are laughable: Pyrotechnics, assassinations and acoustics. "Ohhhh, a voice came out of the fire, it must be the creator of the entire universe and all life!!!"
"Ohhh, all the people who didn't obey Moses died, it must be an act of god! Not poison, nah, couldn't be poison, gotta be a god what gone an' done it."
You're taking a retcon (retroactive monotheism) and making it apply indiscriminately to all inconsistent statements by warping the meaning of "other gods" to "false gods".
Seriously, it says "other", you tell me it says "false". WTF is wrong with you? No wait, I know very precisely what is wrong with you: You're acting out of bad faith.
His theory is much better than the previous theory proposed by Lamarck which did not pass the tests against it.
But the fact that there is a theory to explain evolution doesn't make evolution any less of a fact.