Salt and pepper the bird. Squeeze the juice of a lemon over the skin and put the two halves into the cavity. Spread a mashed-together mixture of olive oil, butter, chopped rosemary and chopped thyme on and in the bird. Put it in the oven and wait until it's done, roughly 45 minutes for a bird that isn't too big.
MAN that's good. Had it Sunday night.
Don't throw out the carcasse, freeze it and make stock from it when you have enough leftover chicken.
I'm no professional chef, but I really like to cook. In fact I've been cooking more than ever since I remodelled my kitchen at the end of '05. Naturally, while deciding what to do for the kitchen, my wife and I watched a number of TV shows on the subject.
We saw ovens much like this, and I always have several problems with the concept. First and foremost: Most oven cooking calls for a preheated oven, and foods generally turn out best if they are given a chance to warm up to room temperature before putting them in to cook. So frankly, this would be 10 thousand dollars spent on an item of limited utility. I don't mind having the remote control, because that would allow me to preheat the thing before I get home from work. But I sure don't want my bread dough sitting in the oven as it does so!
Besides, I got a 36" commercial-style range, with two 22K BTU burners, one 18K BTU burner, one 9K BTU simmer-burner, a charbroiler, an oven that will hold full size commercial bun pans, and a 30K BTU ceramic broiler all for roughly half the price of this device. I guess I'll bite the bullet and turn the knob when I want it hot.
I managed to get my Wookie to Master Droid Engineer, with a rather successful shop right on the outskirts of a major city. I participated in the forums on a regular basis, and I believe I was rather well-respected there for my ideas on the profession.
After a while I grew tired of the game, particularly as it seemed that my chosen profession was being essentially ignored, although SOE provided a little lip-service. I actually stopped playing just before what was supposed to be a rather major upgrade to droid abilities, and felt a pang or three about that. This was perhaps 15 months ago.
Today, I went and checked out the 'Engineering Trader' forum. That's where folks who want to make droids these days hang out. You know what I found? Things are *worse* rather than better. The same old bugs, the same old uselessness, but now compounded by the simplification that led to *removing* functionality. I don't regret my decision to leave.
That's my $0.02, I'm sure it's worth less than that.
Yeah, and 15 years ago they would have blamed Heavy Metal Music.
And 25 years ago they would have blamed Dungeons and Dragons.
Fifty or so years ago, they blamed horror comic books of all things, to the point where we *still* have a stupid label on most of 'em indicating they've got 'approved' content.
Every now and then, someone does something stupid, and a crusade is launched against some sort of fun a lot of young people are having.
As far as I can tell, emotions come first, well at least they come before self-consciousness. First of all, they just FEEL primitive. One can let go of one's rational mind and lash out in anger, or fall into throes of passion. This, to me, is hind-brain stuff.
So perhaps an 'emotion engine' (not the Playstation version!) is something which would be simpler to build, and perhaps more valuable than self-consciousness in a simple but autonomous robot/creature.
However, such 'emotional baggage' (I LOVE how the metaphors fly here) might not be desirable in a higher-order thinking machine. Maybe the Vulcans got it right, but we can do it better. Is there some requirement for emotional underpinnings to an intelligence, or is our example just a consequence of our specific evolutionary path there?
Of course, then there's the fear that a totally rational being, without emotional ties to humanity, might just not make decisions we like. Perhaps we would need to provide emotions as a means of control. A belief in a creator to be respected/worshipped might not be such a bad idea either...
On consciousness: I'll agree with you on that... today. Certainly the computer on which I'm typing this is no more than a dumb tool with nice capabilities for organizing electrons.
But consider that consciousness is an internal, and quite possibly emergent phenomenon. Sort of 'I think, therefore I am, I think'. There is, somewhere, a dividing line between animals which are conscious, and those which simply respond to stimuli.* The same dividing line is, quite possibly, something which our digital creations will approach at some indeterminite future time. Hell, since consciousness IS an internal phenomenon, who is to say that the Internet itself is not/has not/will not achieve some version of consciousness of its own? Would we know? I've certainly never informed my neurons that they're making me think.
*I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine whether this line belongs closer to yeasts, platyhelminthes, or chickens. Would not
Could you explain what exactly mean with "enough complexity" and "the right sort of"? So, what type of complexity does it take, and what is the right sort of organization?
Hey, if I could answer those questions, I wouldn't be wasting my time here on slashdot.
While there was long believed to be some sort of mystical special quality to organic molecules, eventually we figured out that chemistry is chemistry, and that simply by using Carbon we get interesting possiblities.
I (so far) have not seen any reason to suppose that the difference between 'thought' and 'computing' is any different. Incorporate enough complexity in the right sort of organizational framework, and the two should be interchangable.
It's out there. Check out what S3 is doing with their newest graphics chips. Not top-of-the-line performance, I'll grant you, but very efficient compared with the other solutions that are out there.
RHAT has been berry, berry goo' to me. Last time I checked (one day last week) my RHAT was up 59% since I bought it in July '04. I'm happy I put a few bucks behind these guys, and I can't say that hearing they run a tight ship makes me feel worse.
That is going to depend on the method used. If a company is part of the dialogue, they might be able to patch in something else I suppose, but it would be hard to make it seamless. But look at the technology they use during sports broadcasts these days... It is no big deal to change a billboard to reflect a different product, and I imagine that a can of soda or even a complete automobile replacement is likely to be feasible sooner rather than later.
So imagine the secondary market for advertising, where you have to provide digital models to be inserted into the program stream. Then imagine someone realizing they can do the same thing with actors...
Are they not buying it for the musical staves as well?
I'm talking about laying out four or five bucks (or whatever sheet music costs these days) solely in order to obtain the lyrics for a song.
While I've certainly enjoyed getting lyrics I didn't know as serendipitous acquisitions after obtaining songbooks and such, I'd certainly never bother buying sheet music for the sole purpose of getting the words.
That they were lying is one possible explanation. Looking on the bright side, another possibility is that they're just incompetent.
OK, OK, let's keep politics out of this discussion.
Unfortunately, what I want to restrict, in general, is the power of the people in charge... Political types just aren't very good at running things for anyone but themselves and their buddies. This is not a (particular) jibe at the Bush administration, just a general observation about the worst suck-ups on this planet, the politicians.
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A very nice Roast Chicken:
Preheat oven to 500
Salt and pepper the bird.
Squeeze the juice of a lemon over the skin and put the two halves into the cavity.
Spread a mashed-together mixture of olive oil, butter, chopped rosemary and chopped thyme on and in the bird.
Put it in the oven and wait until it's done, roughly 45 minutes for a bird that isn't too big.
MAN that's good. Had it Sunday night.
Don't throw out the carcasse, freeze it and make stock from it when you have enough leftover chicken.
I'm no professional chef, but I really like to cook. In fact I've been cooking more than ever since I remodelled my kitchen at the end of '05. Naturally, while deciding what to do for the kitchen, my wife and I watched a number of TV shows on the subject.
We saw ovens much like this, and I always have several problems with the concept. First and foremost: Most oven cooking calls for a preheated oven, and foods generally turn out best if they are given a chance to warm up to room temperature before putting them in to cook. So frankly, this would be 10 thousand dollars spent on an item of limited utility. I don't mind having the remote control, because that would allow me to preheat the thing before I get home from work. But I sure don't want my bread dough sitting in the oven as it does so!
Besides, I got a 36" commercial-style range, with two 22K BTU burners, one 18K BTU burner, one 9K BTU simmer-burner, a charbroiler, an oven that will hold full size commercial bun pans, and a 30K BTU ceramic broiler all for roughly half the price of this device. I guess I'll bite the bullet and turn the knob when I want it hot.
I managed to get my Wookie to Master Droid Engineer, with a rather successful shop right on the outskirts of a major city. I participated in the forums on a regular basis, and I believe I was rather well-respected there for my ideas on the profession.
After a while I grew tired of the game, particularly as it seemed that my chosen profession was being essentially ignored, although SOE provided a little lip-service. I actually stopped playing just before what was supposed to be a rather major upgrade to droid abilities, and felt a pang or three about that. This was perhaps 15 months ago.
Today, I went and checked out the 'Engineering Trader' forum. That's where folks who want to make droids these days hang out. You know what I found? Things are *worse* rather than better. The same old bugs, the same old uselessness, but now compounded by the simplification that led to *removing* functionality. I don't regret my decision to leave.
That's my $0.02, I'm sure it's worth less than that.
Yeah, and 15 years ago they would have blamed Heavy Metal Music.
And 25 years ago they would have blamed Dungeons and Dragons.
Fifty or so years ago, they blamed horror comic books of all things, to the point where we *still* have a stupid label on most of 'em indicating they've got 'approved' content.
Every now and then, someone does something stupid, and a crusade is launched against some sort of fun a lot of young people are having.
I'm sorry, what?!?!?
I cannot understand a word you're saying. What's with that accent?
Heh. I couldn't believe how long it took for this basic point to be made.
As far as I can tell, emotions come first, well at least they come before self-consciousness. First of all, they just FEEL primitive. One can let go of one's rational mind and lash out in anger, or fall into throes of passion. This, to me, is hind-brain stuff.
So perhaps an 'emotion engine' (not the Playstation version!) is something which would be simpler to build, and perhaps more valuable than self-consciousness in a simple but autonomous robot/creature.
However, such 'emotional baggage' (I LOVE how the metaphors fly here) might not be desirable in a higher-order thinking machine. Maybe the Vulcans got it right, but we can do it better. Is there some requirement for emotional underpinnings to an intelligence, or is our example just a consequence of our specific evolutionary path there?
Of course, then there's the fear that a totally rational being, without emotional ties to humanity, might just not make decisions we like. Perhaps we would need to provide emotions as a means of control. A belief in a creator to be respected/worshipped might not be such a bad idea either...
On consciousness: I'll agree with you on that... today. Certainly the computer on which I'm typing this is no more than a dumb tool with nice capabilities for organizing electrons.
But consider that consciousness is an internal, and quite possibly emergent phenomenon. Sort of 'I think, therefore I am, I think'. There is, somewhere, a dividing line between animals which are conscious, and those which simply respond to stimuli.* The same dividing line is, quite possibly, something which our digital creations will approach at some indeterminite future time. Hell, since consciousness IS an internal phenomenon, who is to say that the Internet itself is not/has not/will not achieve some version of consciousness of its own? Would we know? I've certainly never informed my neurons that they're making me think.
*I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to determine whether this line belongs closer to yeasts, platyhelminthes, or chickens. Would not
Could you explain what exactly mean with "enough complexity" and "the right sort of"?
So, what type of complexity does it take, and what is the right sort of organization?
Hey, if I could answer those questions, I wouldn't be wasting my time here on slashdot.
While there was long believed to be some sort of mystical special quality to organic molecules, eventually we figured out that chemistry is chemistry, and that simply by using Carbon we get interesting possiblities.
I (so far) have not seen any reason to suppose that the difference between 'thought' and 'computing' is any different. Incorporate enough complexity in the right sort of organizational framework, and the two should be interchangable.
Yes, the Pentium-M is an excellent piece of machinery.
It's just too bad that the best Intel appears to be able todo is with what is, essentially, the rather old Pentium-3 design with a few added tweaks.
Then again, as someone who holds stock in AMD but not INTC, I'm not exactly crying right now.
It's simply MY security vs. THEIR security.
And if it's a matter of using my own assets to enforce one or the other, I'll choose me, thank you very much.
It's out there. Check out what S3 is doing with their newest graphics chips. Not top-of-the-line performance, I'll grant you, but very efficient compared with the other solutions that are out there.
RHAT has been berry, berry goo' to me. Last time I checked (one day last week) my RHAT was up 59% since I bought it in July '04. I'm happy I put a few bucks behind these guys, and I can't say that hearing they run a tight ship makes me feel worse.
That is going to depend on the method used. If a company is part of the dialogue, they might be able to patch in something else I suppose, but it would be hard to make it seamless. But look at the technology they use during sports broadcasts these days... It is no big deal to change a billboard to reflect a different product, and I imagine that a can of soda or even a complete automobile replacement is likely to be feasible sooner rather than later.
So imagine the secondary market for advertising, where you have to provide digital models to be inserted into the program stream. Then imagine someone realizing they can do the same thing with actors...
Oooh, so technically, deciphering lyrics is a DMCA violation, too!
Are they not buying it for the musical staves as well?
I'm talking about laying out four or five bucks (or whatever sheet music costs these days) solely in order to obtain the lyrics for a song.
While I've certainly enjoyed getting lyrics I didn't know as serendipitous acquisitions after obtaining songbooks and such, I'd certainly never bother buying sheet music for the sole purpose of getting the words.
Hehe. Being a native speaker of English doesn't necessarily mean that one can understand the lyrics for any given song!
Your first mistake is in assuming that common sense was *ever* a part of this world.
Who in the HELL ever buys sheet music for lyrics?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Didn't think so.
Yes, but that was due to a lack of string.
That they were lying is one possible explanation. Looking on the bright side, another possibility is that they're just incompetent. OK, OK, let's keep politics out of this discussion.
It's the new anti-dupe filter. Someone added an extra exclamation point, and no new stories can make it through anymore.
After all, that's how we beat the aliens back on Independence Day a few years back, right?
Unfortunately, what I want to restrict, in general, is the power of the people in charge... Political types just aren't very good at running things for anyone but themselves and their buddies. This is not a (particular) jibe at the Bush administration, just a general observation about the worst suck-ups on this planet, the politicians.