Trump made a candid statement about the reality of partisan politics, which reflects the situation on both sides. A statement which appeared not to conform to a doctrine of maintaining both a public and a private position that you would expect from a more experienced politician.
This is now to be conflated with Trump harboring homicidal tendencies and a false belief that he is above the law, and that fully half of the US population endorses this while also suffering from mental illness. This is in addition to the adjectives already used to describe the now infamous basket of deplorables.
Then, when such hyperbole gets mod +5 insightful, it only reinforces the notion that meritocracy matters little to those who put partisanship above all else to the point of becoming blind fanatics. Where there is no value to be had in honest political discourse, but only hate filled rhetoric that drives more distrust and more disinformation to the point where voting becomes purely an emotional reaction.
So no, I wouldn't completely blame someone in the rest of the civilized world for having the wrong impression.
Or one might get the impression that to criticize SJW stupidity is to burn karma by triggering a group that actively seeks to suppress speech they dislike.
Interesting how the post with the completely anecdotal rebuttal gets upmodded, seemingly oblivious of the events occuring at campuses like Evergreen college in Washington state, and the violent protests at Berkely to just name a few.
If the antics of anti-free speech SJW types on American campuses are going viral on social media and are making headlines on mainstream news, chances are good that foreign audiences will become aware of it and that reputation will be branded against campuses that aren't a hotbed of this kind of activity.
From: It describes itself as a "clear voice for democracy and freedom around the world". The organization was 66–85% funded by grants from the U.S. government from 2006–15... Freedom House is a nonprofit organization. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., it has field offices in about a dozen countries, including Ukraine, Hungary, Serbia, Jordan, Mexico, and also countries in Central Asia.
So when they talk about government funded 'opinion shapers', they know the business.
Meanwhile, the Smith–Mundt Act has been repealed, and that 90% of the media is owned by just six major corporations allowing for near total consolidation of message. We're rife with super PACS that have millions for funding groups like Correct The Record and other astroturfing agencies. The major social media sites are deplatforming, shadow banning, and outright censoring anyone with an opinion they don't like under the guise of combating 'extremism'. Net Neutrality is being dismantled, to help ensure that competing platforms that actually support free speech can't compete.
I too watch Amazon Video on my Smart TV, but using a fire stick which is an extremely easy to replace module compared to my very large and expensive display. Leaving the display connected opens up the possibility of the manufacturer imposing changes on it without my approval such as forcing me to see adverts when I only want to switch inputs. Sometimes the user isn't even given the choice to refuse a new firmware version.
I want the ability to own my tv and make decisions for when it is altered, and not cede that to a manufacturer who already has my money. That means it never has a route outside my network.
In case you haven't noticed, "to improve your user experience" is hardly to be taken at face value.
Agreed. One of those methods being to ensure that Windows 7 won't be supported with new processors. I have a strong suspicion that Neverware and chrome devices are going to become much more popular, or at least, as far as I'm concerned.
And here I thought we were discussing the magical properties of Russians being able to outcompete massive campaigns on a shoestring budget, or the more likely theory that this is frantic handwaving by a very biased media to blame the Russians for the failings of a political party. I didn't even realize that being highly skeptical of buzzword terms like 'guerrilla marketing' to explain Clinton's defeat was repeating rightwing talking points.
How fortunate that you're here to encourage independent, critical thinking by redefining the meaning of treason for us, and to accuse Trump of being a Manchurian candidate because he is evasive to a hostile media and also a habitual liar like his counterparts. I feel as if I'm sensing some kind of pattern here.
If Trump is lying to the FBI then I expect the Mueller to do his job. I highly doubt that intent will ever factor into any proceedings.
But the subject isn't Trump, its 21st century fascism. I know it's popular to accuse Trump of being a fascist, but I have a different definition of what that means as well. Fascism to me means using oppressive censorship to stifle dissent, and where whistleblowers end up murdered under extremely suspicious circumstances. Where operatives shut down political events, attack people exercising their 1st amendment rights with bike locks, and conduct astroturfing campaigns with paid protestors. Where an entire political party acts as nothing more than a money laundering front for one individual, and conducts rigged primaries to give us the illusion of choice.
I'm expecting the US version of the Reichstag to go up in flames any moment now, maybe we can blame that on the Russians too!
Setting aside the example of Tithonus in greek mythology, it boils down to a matter of choice.
The choice to live, or to die, on any particular day as opposed to being at the mercy of nature. Maybe I'd get bored after only a few millennia, but that's a risk I'd like to take.
I agree with you, that correlation does not mean causation in this case. But this 'hackers who disrupted the U.S. presidential election' being treated as a foregone conclusion is just more propaganda.
The DNC wants us to believe that their emails were stolen by Russian hackers, and expects us to accept at face value the word of proven cheats and liars, even when they refuse to have the server in question turned over to the FBI for forensic analysis. We're supposed to ignore the mysterious, still unsolved, murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich, and Julian Assange's bounty for information regarding it. Assange, who stopped just short of admitting that Rich leaked the emails in interviews.
And then, while hyperventilating about Russian hackers, in the next breath they want to claim that there is no evidence that Secretary Clinton's personal email server was ever compromised, and thus SAP and other top secret information exposed. No, nothing to see there, move along, and only pay attention to the Trump-Russia collusion accusations that still aren't substantiated. It'd be laughable, if so many weren't eagerly sucking down the kool aide.
But as to the point you made, even if we assume that Russians leaked all the information, including Podesta and the DNC emails, what does it suggest about about the integrity of our political process when getting to see the dirty dealings, the man behind the curtain so to speak, is 'damaging and disruptive'? What does it mean when the truth becomes the establishment's greatest threat, and thus a weakness to be exploited by our nation's adversaries?
I understand your point. But who arbitrates what falls under the national security rubric? How isn't it that these agencies police themselves in getting to decide how best to 'enhance' public understanding? The only information that gets released that casts them in a negative light is that which has been leaked.
Ah yes, the butterfly effect, of course. Somewhat plausible yet impossible to demonstrate or prove in this case, perfect for those who are desperate to convince themselves of any reason other than what is already glaringly obvious. The power of denial, and giving the true believers what they need to keep the faith, is always such a useful tool.
Just like how unredacted and complete records from the Kennedy assassination investigation can still be considered a threat to national security, I suspect that 'public understanding' may have an entirely different meaning.
Or not show up to the summons at all, much like what Bryan Pagliano did. The House did hold a vote whether or not to hold him in contempt, which failed to pass, where the partisan hacks gave up all the excuses why he should be allowed to flip Congress the bird. It'd be amusing to see those same excuses tossed back into their faces.
I'm infuriated with Ajit Pai and the demise of net neutrality, but let's take this in the context of mass surveillance and extra judicial executions, and "we came, we saw, he died" in terms of wars of aggression. Given the paid speeches bribery and avoidance of releasing transcripts, there's no reason to expect that a hefty donation to the Clinton Foundation would not have resulted in a similar outcome with the FCC. Public and private positions, after all.
Where playing the condescending blame game is really unproductive is when someone like Sanders actually manages to overcome the proven liars and cheats and superdelegates at the DNC. You think you're shaming Trump voters, when in actuality you're reminding those who only voted for him reluctantly what kind of choice they were given. It hardens attitudes.
Pretty much. Before, faking images and video was time consuming, but this is the next step in being able to produce convincing fake imagery on a mass scale outside of the realm of Hollywood. I foresee this tech being useful for disinformation experts, being able to construct complete profiles for sock puppet accounts to include family vacation photos, graduations, etc.
We won't be able to believe our lying eyes when it comes to anything on a display. Thankfully, we can always rely on those in a position of authority to tell us what's real and what's not.
Sustained 2C is also the difference that can trigger bleaching events in marine corals, such as what has been devastating the great barrier reef off the coast of Australia and other reefs around the world. Many species depend on these corals, and the situation only seems to be getting worse.
Freedom of speech to state the 'approved' set of ideas is almost as useless as freedom of speech limited to the middle of the desert in Nevada - technically accurate, but practically useless.
Did this server contain top secret information? Special Access Program level top secret information? You know, like names or details that could reveal the identity of operatives working in hostile environments, or other incredibly sensitive information that the very nature of it had to be concealed from the public?
This machine appears to have contained voter registration information, instructions, and passwords for non-networked voting equipment. The FBI also has a forensic image of it prior to it being wiped, so it isn't the case where data is having to be recovered.
Respectfully, I think you might be comparing apples to oranges here.
So far this is non story, as the FBI examined the server and found no issues with it, and retained an image of it before sending it back. It appears that the notice of the lawsuit may not have even been served till after the machine was decommissioned anyway, a machine that given its age you would certainly expect it not to be returned to service.
The ends, however, very well do justify the means. I mean, is there anything the media puppet masters won't lie about or distort if it suits them? This story is intended to benefit a group that just put a known liar and cheat, Donna Brazile, on the DNC rules committee. So lying and deception for political gains isn't just encouraged, it is expected, if there is the slightest amount of political traction to be gained.
Both sides do this, but right now it's the left flailing about the most and doubling down on false narratives. Sadly, judging from the number of ditto-head comments on this article and elsewhere, it seems to work.
I agree, Google shouldn't be apologizing in this case. What concerns me is when institutions with access to massive amounts of personal data is able to utilize a sufficient amount of computational ability to begin shaping society as they see fit, 'for the greater good' as they imagine it. We like to think that the days of burning people on the stake for the crime of heresy and blasphemy was behind us, but it seems its modern day equivalent looms ahead.
Bear in mind that in the past, and even today in some areas, being homosexual was/is a criminal offense with serious repercussions. Language adapts to these situations where to outright refer to someone as homosexual would be akin to accusing them of a capitol offense, and polite society finds ways to be more subtle and suggestive.
Why 'gay' is the overriding moniker now is, personal opinion, because it lacks the negative connotations that comes with 'queer' and 'fag' and is less clinical than 'homosexual' and its abbreviation, homo. It is the derivative of 'gaiety' which in its history referred to a condition of being carefree and uninhibited, which is suitable when one is considered an outsider of societal norms.
Lastly, the shift to use gay as a pejorative isn't to be unexpected from juviniles and other shallow thinkers. As culture shifts in time, and those irrevocably conditioned to be bigoted, inconsiderate, borderline psycopaths die off for the betterment of man kind, I would expect the word to return to its more neutral meaning of merely describing a person's sexuality.
It's a mental illness. Always has been, always will be, regardless to the political correctness garbage.
It's part of human nature, always has been, always will be, regardless. Unless you are actually more qualified to make that determination than the body of the American Psychiatric Association which completely removed homosexuality from The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
Where actual mental illness comes into play is depression as a result of feelings of persecution and social isolation, leading to a significant increase in suicide and drug abuse. Depression, and reduced feelings of self worth, that manifest because of their environment in which you help provide an example.
Interestingly, in reading on the topic I found this which I think helps me understand your point of view.
Psychopathy, sometimes considered synonymous with sociopathy, is traditionally defined as a personality disorder[1] characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, egotistical traits.
You are an idiot if you can't even acknowledge the genuine developments of Islamic culture.
AC left out deadly mass riots over cartoons, and the targeted killing of cartoonists; another fine development unique to Islamic culture. Let's not also forget the modern-day state executions for witchcraft which is carried out in the bastion of Islamic culture that is Saudi Arabia. Did you know they also have a city where it is a criminal act to enter it if you are not muslim?
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Trump made a candid statement about the reality of partisan politics, which reflects the situation on both sides. A statement which appeared not to conform to a doctrine of maintaining both a public and a private position that you would expect from a more experienced politician.
This is now to be conflated with Trump harboring homicidal tendencies and a false belief that he is above the law, and that fully half of the US population endorses this while also suffering from mental illness. This is in addition to the adjectives already used to describe the now infamous basket of deplorables.
Then, when such hyperbole gets mod +5 insightful, it only reinforces the notion that meritocracy matters little to those who put partisanship above all else to the point of becoming blind fanatics. Where there is no value to be had in honest political discourse, but only hate filled rhetoric that drives more distrust and more disinformation to the point where voting becomes purely an emotional reaction.
So no, I wouldn't completely blame someone in the rest of the civilized world for having the wrong impression.
Or one might get the impression that to criticize SJW stupidity is to burn karma by triggering a group that actively seeks to suppress speech they dislike.
Interesting how the post with the completely anecdotal rebuttal gets upmodded, seemingly oblivious of the events occuring at campuses like Evergreen college in Washington state, and the violent protests at Berkely to just name a few.
If the antics of anti-free speech SJW types on American campuses are going viral on social media and are making headlines on mainstream news, chances are good that foreign audiences will become aware of it and that reputation will be branded against campuses that aren't a hotbed of this kind of activity.
From: It describes itself as a "clear voice for democracy and freedom around the world". The organization was 66–85% funded by grants from the U.S. government from 2006–15... Freedom House is a nonprofit organization. Headquartered in Washington, D.C., it has field offices in about a dozen countries, including Ukraine, Hungary, Serbia, Jordan, Mexico, and also countries in Central Asia.
So when they talk about government funded 'opinion shapers', they know the business.
Meanwhile, the Smith–Mundt Act has been repealed, and that 90% of the media is owned by just six major corporations allowing for near total consolidation of message. We're rife with super PACS that have millions for funding groups like Correct The Record and other astroturfing agencies. The major social media sites are deplatforming, shadow banning, and outright censoring anyone with an opinion they don't like under the guise of combating 'extremism'. Net Neutrality is being dismantled, to help ensure that competing platforms that actually support free speech can't compete.
But, Russian meddling!
With having to protect us from such extremist terrorist hashtags like #DNCLeak and #PodestaEmails, one wonders how they will manage.
I too watch Amazon Video on my Smart TV, but using a fire stick which is an extremely easy to replace module compared to my very large and expensive display. Leaving the display connected opens up the possibility of the manufacturer imposing changes on it without my approval such as forcing me to see adverts when I only want to switch inputs. Sometimes the user isn't even given the choice to refuse a new firmware version.
I want the ability to own my tv and make decisions for when it is altered, and not cede that to a manufacturer who already has my money. That means it never has a route outside my network.
In case you haven't noticed, "to improve your user experience" is hardly to be taken at face value.
Agreed. One of those methods being to ensure that Windows 7 won't be supported with new processors. I have a strong suspicion that Neverware and chrome devices are going to become much more popular, or at least, as far as I'm concerned.
And here I thought we were discussing the magical properties of Russians being able to outcompete massive campaigns on a shoestring budget, or the more likely theory that this is frantic handwaving by a very biased media to blame the Russians for the failings of a political party. I didn't even realize that being highly skeptical of buzzword terms like 'guerrilla marketing' to explain Clinton's defeat was repeating rightwing talking points.
How fortunate that you're here to encourage independent, critical thinking by redefining the meaning of treason for us, and to accuse Trump of being a Manchurian candidate because he is evasive to a hostile media and also a habitual liar like his counterparts. I feel as if I'm sensing some kind of pattern here.
If Trump is lying to the FBI then I expect the Mueller to do his job. I highly doubt that intent will ever factor into any proceedings.
But the subject isn't Trump, its 21st century fascism. I know it's popular to accuse Trump of being a fascist, but I have a different definition of what that means as well. Fascism to me means using oppressive censorship to stifle dissent, and where whistleblowers end up murdered under extremely suspicious circumstances. Where operatives shut down political events, attack people exercising their 1st amendment rights with bike locks, and conduct astroturfing campaigns with paid protestors. Where an entire political party acts as nothing more than a money laundering front for one individual, and conducts rigged primaries to give us the illusion of choice.
I'm expecting the US version of the Reichstag to go up in flames any moment now, maybe we can blame that on the Russians too!
Setting aside the example of Tithonus in greek mythology, it boils down to a matter of choice.
The choice to live, or to die, on any particular day as opposed to being at the mercy of nature. Maybe I'd get bored after only a few millennia, but that's a risk I'd like to take.
I agree with you, that correlation does not mean causation in this case. But this 'hackers who disrupted the U.S. presidential election' being treated as a foregone conclusion is just more propaganda.
The DNC wants us to believe that their emails were stolen by Russian hackers, and expects us to accept at face value the word of proven cheats and liars, even when they refuse to have the server in question turned over to the FBI for forensic analysis. We're supposed to ignore the mysterious, still unsolved, murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich, and Julian Assange's bounty for information regarding it. Assange, who stopped just short of admitting that Rich leaked the emails in interviews.
And then, while hyperventilating about Russian hackers, in the next breath they want to claim that there is no evidence that Secretary Clinton's personal email server was ever compromised, and thus SAP and other top secret information exposed. No, nothing to see there, move along, and only pay attention to the Trump-Russia collusion accusations that still aren't substantiated. It'd be laughable, if so many weren't eagerly sucking down the kool aide.
But as to the point you made, even if we assume that Russians leaked all the information, including Podesta and the DNC emails, what does it suggest about about the integrity of our political process when getting to see the dirty dealings, the man behind the curtain so to speak, is 'damaging and disruptive'? What does it mean when the truth becomes the establishment's greatest threat, and thus a weakness to be exploited by our nation's adversaries?
I understand your point. But who arbitrates what falls under the national security rubric? How isn't it that these agencies police themselves in getting to decide how best to 'enhance' public understanding? The only information that gets released that casts them in a negative light is that which has been leaked.
Ah yes, the butterfly effect, of course. Somewhat plausible yet impossible to demonstrate or prove in this case, perfect for those who are desperate to convince themselves of any reason other than what is already glaringly obvious. The power of denial, and giving the true believers what they need to keep the faith, is always such a useful tool.
Just like how unredacted and complete records from the Kennedy assassination investigation can still be considered a threat to national security, I suspect that 'public understanding' may have an entirely different meaning.
Or not show up to the summons at all, much like what Bryan Pagliano did. The House did hold a vote whether or not to hold him in contempt, which failed to pass, where the partisan hacks gave up all the excuses why he should be allowed to flip Congress the bird. It'd be amusing to see those same excuses tossed back into their faces.
But if they aren't able to find new ways to abuse their customers, how else can they 'innovate'?
I'm infuriated with Ajit Pai and the demise of net neutrality, but let's take this in the context of mass surveillance and extra judicial executions, and "we came, we saw, he died" in terms of wars of aggression. Given the paid speeches bribery and avoidance of releasing transcripts, there's no reason to expect that a hefty donation to the Clinton Foundation would not have resulted in a similar outcome with the FCC. Public and private positions, after all.
Where playing the condescending blame game is really unproductive is when someone like Sanders actually manages to overcome the proven liars and cheats and superdelegates at the DNC. You think you're shaming Trump voters, when in actuality you're reminding those who only voted for him reluctantly what kind of choice they were given. It hardens attitudes.
Pretty much. Before, faking images and video was time consuming, but this is the next step in being able to produce convincing fake imagery on a mass scale outside of the realm of Hollywood. I foresee this tech being useful for disinformation experts, being able to construct complete profiles for sock puppet accounts to include family vacation photos, graduations, etc.
We won't be able to believe our lying eyes when it comes to anything on a display. Thankfully, we can always rely on those in a position of authority to tell us what's real and what's not.
Sustained 2C is also the difference that can trigger bleaching events in marine corals, such as what has been devastating the great barrier reef off the coast of Australia and other reefs around the world. Many species depend on these corals, and the situation only seems to be getting worse.
Freedom of speech to state the 'approved' set of ideas is almost as useless as freedom of speech limited to the middle of the desert in Nevada - technically accurate, but practically useless.
Free speech zone in the middle of the desert? Was that what you had in mind?
I wish I had mod points for your very insightful post, but I do thank you for it.
Did this server contain top secret information? Special Access Program level top secret information? You know, like names or details that could reveal the identity of operatives working in hostile environments, or other incredibly sensitive information that the very nature of it had to be concealed from the public?
This machine appears to have contained voter registration information, instructions, and passwords for non-networked voting equipment. The FBI also has a forensic image of it prior to it being wiped, so it isn't the case where data is having to be recovered.
Respectfully, I think you might be comparing apples to oranges here.
So far this is non story, as the FBI examined the server and found no issues with it, and retained an image of it before sending it back. It appears that the notice of the lawsuit may not have even been served till after the machine was decommissioned anyway, a machine that given its age you would certainly expect it not to be returned to service.
The ends, however, very well do justify the means. I mean, is there anything the media puppet masters won't lie about or distort if it suits them? This story is intended to benefit a group that just put a known liar and cheat, Donna Brazile, on the DNC rules committee. So lying and deception for political gains isn't just encouraged, it is expected, if there is the slightest amount of political traction to be gained.
Both sides do this, but right now it's the left flailing about the most and doubling down on false narratives. Sadly, judging from the number of ditto-head comments on this article and elsewhere, it seems to work.
I agree, Google shouldn't be apologizing in this case. What concerns me is when institutions with access to massive amounts of personal data is able to utilize a sufficient amount of computational ability to begin shaping society as they see fit, 'for the greater good' as they imagine it. We like to think that the days of burning people on the stake for the crime of heresy and blasphemy was behind us, but it seems its modern day equivalent looms ahead.
Bear in mind that in the past, and even today in some areas, being homosexual was/is a criminal offense with serious repercussions. Language adapts to these situations where to outright refer to someone as homosexual would be akin to accusing them of a capitol offense, and polite society finds ways to be more subtle and suggestive.
Why 'gay' is the overriding moniker now is, personal opinion, because it lacks the negative connotations that comes with 'queer' and 'fag' and is less clinical than 'homosexual' and its abbreviation, homo. It is the derivative of 'gaiety' which in its history referred to a condition of being carefree and uninhibited, which is suitable when one is considered an outsider of societal norms.
Lastly, the shift to use gay as a pejorative isn't to be unexpected from juviniles and other shallow thinkers. As culture shifts in time, and those irrevocably conditioned to be bigoted, inconsiderate, borderline psycopaths die off for the betterment of man kind, I would expect the word to return to its more neutral meaning of merely describing a person's sexuality.
It's a mental illness. Always has been, always will be, regardless to the political correctness garbage.
It's part of human nature, always has been, always will be, regardless. Unless you are actually more qualified to make that determination than the body of the American Psychiatric Association which completely removed homosexuality from The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
Where actual mental illness comes into play is depression as a result of feelings of persecution and social isolation, leading to a significant increase in suicide and drug abuse. Depression, and reduced feelings of self worth, that manifest because of their environment in which you help provide an example.
Interestingly, in reading on the topic I found this which I think helps me understand your point of view.
Psychopathy, sometimes considered synonymous with sociopathy, is traditionally defined as a personality disorder[1] characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, egotistical traits.
You are an idiot if you can't even acknowledge the genuine developments of Islamic culture.
AC left out deadly mass riots over cartoons, and the targeted killing of cartoonists; another fine development unique to Islamic culture. Let's not also forget the modern-day state executions for witchcraft which is carried out in the bastion of Islamic culture that is Saudi Arabia. Did you know they also have a city where it is a criminal act to enter it if you are not muslim?
Indeed, such developments are worthy of note.
If you play role-playing games set in the present day, make sure there aren't any covert FBI agents in the group.
As I read this, my phone reboots itself for no apparent reason. Probably best to make sure those are kept out of the room as well.