When doctors start making generalizations like this, watch out. They've probably just read some stupid study that makes absurd pronouncements based on all kinds of statistical fallacies. The literature is full of them.
Umm have you ever looked at the bottle? One of the most common side effects is drowsiness, that is why it explicitly says on the bottle to not drive or operate machinery until you are familiar with its effects. In this case, the double blind tests have clearly indicated that when taken by people who are diagnosed with ADD, drowsiness is a real and common side effect. There is no fallacy, it is #1 side effect.
If only I had the time to criticize this post further, perhaps I will, but not today.
Firstly, that quote was taken from a speech Hitler made when it was becoming clear the French and English would declare war on Germany. Let us remember it was NOT the Germans who started World War II. (If the Allies cared so much about Poland they would not have let the Russians take it) Hitler was most certainly a demagogue, but given the rest of that speech... I would hardly say it was an endless ranting about the murder of Jews. One could argue that speech was about ending Jewish racist behavior something that obviously would have benefited the Palestinian people, or forced assimilation in some way. Whatever the meaning, the speech was a warning to the French and English that if they wanted a war they would come to regret it. And they did.
If the germans didn't kill 6 million Jews, then where did they go? I don't see any Jewish people in Madagascar. Are you also saying that all videos and photographs of the Holocaust were fabricated in order to further the interests of the "Zionist lobby"? Are you hinting that maybe Hitler built death camps that could only be used for mass extermination and never used them? Why waste resources pretending to commit atrocities?
There is no conclusive evidence 6 million Jews disappeared. Why do you think the cremation argument is put forth? We can't find the bodies because they were all cremated into dust! Maybe even a million, but most of those died of starvation. The Jews were certainly in concentration camps, but the evidence those camps existed to exterminate people is ridiculous. Why were so many found alive in 1945? Why in 1944 with untold starvation in all the major cities of Germany were the Jews still being fed enough to keep them alive in 1945? Why not just let them die?
It doesn't make sense. The truth is simple. The concentration camps served the same purpose as all concentration camps, including those used by the United States: to concentrate potential enemies within your borders. Right or wrong, that is what was going on.
As far as the camps themselves, I think the most likely explanation is the death camp aspects were installed by the Soviets after the fact as a propaganda tool. They certainly did far worse after the war. Look at the 2.5 million abortions which took place in 1946. Whats a few bullshit gas chambers?
I never said I supported the foundation of a Jewish state (I don't), and honestly I think Israel is partly responsible for the mess it is in.
Good, I am glad we agree on something. However, you must admit that if the Holocaust had NEVER occurred, no one would allow the state to exist. Its entire basis is "the Jews have suffered so much, so much more than anyone else, lets give them back the lands the Romans stole from then 1900 years ago".
You are trying to forget the most horrific act humanity has ever witnessed, and that is saddening.
I would hardly characterize it as that. The Soviets carted away millions of Germans, raped over 3 million German women (as abortion records clearly indicate). They killed over ten million in the Ukraine. No one is weeping for them. Bad shit happens, the Jews are not unique victims in the tragedy of life.
The Jews ARE unique however in that they have uniquely profited by their so called tragedy, ever since the Jewish diaspora was initiated by the Romans so very long ago.
I suggest you look at this site before you refute my facts. It will dispell your revisionist myths about the Holocaust.
I have seen the site, it lacks the evidence I seek. You want me to believe it? You find me the records which indicate 50 million gallons of fuel oil were redirected to concentration camps. If you believe that six million skeletons are out there, find me the proof they exist. Its not on that site, I can guarantee you of that. This is the old case of its impossible to prove a negative. I cannot prove that the holocau
1) ADHD is fairly new. But people have always had it. Instead of being diangosed, they were often called lazy, unfocused, or hyper.
You are absolutely wrong. Stimulants have been used to treat ADD since the 1930's! Amphetamine was first patented a longggg time ago. Back then, there were no antibiotics really, no vaccines... No modern drugs of any type.
Ritalin was patented in 1950.
In the 19th century, with the dawn of the industrial age the majority of the population used cocaine or caffeine in massive quantities.
Perhaps stimulants are simply a part of our modern culture. There has never been a time where humans lived in a modern fashion without stimulants. Perhaps longer lasting stimulants are simply more convenient, effective, and safe than others.
To say that ADD is a product of the 1990's is hopelessly naive. Where are you getting your information?
I don't think thats atypical at all by the way. The theory goes that for non-ADHD people, Ritalin has a noticable stimulant effect but the effect is less pronounced for people with the disorder.
The stuff used to make me so tired I would fall asleep. I ultimately switched to Adderall which didn't at all make me drowsy.
Anyway, my doctor told me it was very common for men in particular to use some ritalin as a nightcap. Worked for me...
Of course for those who have experience that effect, tranquilizers keep you awake. If I take 10mg of valium (a big dose granted) I will be bouncing off the walls for the next five hours... Weird.
Umm, you are quite mistaken. EVERYONE knew what was going on, but no one did anything to stop it. In 1939, Hitler made a public speech in which he said:
If the international finance-Jewry inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations into a world war yet again, then the outcome will not be the victory of Jewry, but rather the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!
I highly doubt the veracity of that quote. If it did occur in 1939, it was probably no long before it was becoming apparent France and Britain were going to declare war on Germany. Since deporting Jews from Germany was a stated goal and had been going on since 1936, I would imagine there is a mistransaltion of the word annihilation.
As has been said elsewhere, it was simply not feasible for Germany to kill six million 130 pound mammals, AND elmininate their bodies through cremation. They did not possess the oil to do so. Most of the desperate battles Germany fought were intended to secure oil reserves! One speech, mistranslated, does not indicate a mass effort to kill Jews.
The Nuremberg trials did not base their accounts on the public either, only so-called survivors, and Communist constructed "death" camps.
If you look anywhere, you will find there were mountains of evidence showing that people around the world knew that Jews were being murdered by the thousands. Take off your blindfold. There is no "Zionist lobby" spreading lies about the Holocaust. Your conspiracy theory is a bunch of shit.
The same Zionist lobby that spreads lies to the world to steal more land from the Palestinians? The same Zionist lobby which kills and concentrates unknown thousands of Palestinians in the name of peace? The same Zionists which today operate the only nation which excludes citizenship based on ethnicity AND religion? Why was the Waffen-SS able to recruit 60,000 muslims to fight the soviets? Where are the muslims in the Israeli army?
Zionists are behaving the same way they accuse Germans of behaving, and in the most outrageous twist, their justification is the holocaust!
10 million germans did not die of starvation in 1944. You are the one spreading lies. It is true, Germans died of starvation. They were NOT rounded up and ruthlessly executed, like the Jews, and far fewer germans died.
Check out the New York Times from November 3, 1945, page 14. You will read an essay where Bertrand Russell makes a case for providing food for the German people. I highly doubt a man of his stature would make such a heart felt appeal if he was 1) accutely aware of the suffering of the Jews and 2) aware there was in fact no problem with starvation.
He also has another essay I cannot find at the moment where he condemns the soviet deportation of Germans in the east, and especially in those parts of Poland which were at the time German.
I think you should study history for yourself instead of believing what others tell you. Listen to yourself, you're starting to sound like a racist neo-nazi maniac.
I have nothing against Jews, as a race or a religion. In fact, this is the great hypocricy of supporters such as yourself. YOU support the racist Zionists, but when one objects to their tactics of deceit and subterfuge, he is called a racist.
Zionism is the cause of most of the world's anti-jewish feelings. If Zionism ceased to exist, Jews could live in harmony with the rest of the world. It is that simple.
(in fact, i'm convinced that the only reason we fought hitler was that we thought he'd get a nuke - otherwise, we'd just have turned our eyes from the Holocaust like the rest of the world did.)
Perhaps you haven't read the transcripts of the Nuremberg trials, but its pretty clear that whatever the truth about the Holocaust no one knew what was going on Germany not even the German people themselves.
As far as the world knew, Germany was concentrating Jews and Communists during the war like the US was doing with the Japanese. The difference was Jews would be resettled in Madagascar or Israel.
It is very telling of the Zionist lobby that only a half century after the fact do they spread these lies that the whole of the civilized world sat idol as six million Jews were burned alive. When these same Zionists show equal sympothy for the 10 million German civilians who starved to death in 1944, perhaps then their words will have some weight.
These days, after fifty years of oppressive boiler plate contracts, what matters is performance not the precise wording of the contract.
If two parties behave as if a contract binds them, then in most cases there is in fact a contract.
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Surely however you must admit that it is through questioning that one truly learns. This is the contrast between learning through rote and through the socratic method.
Here we are discussing something as simple as repetetive strain injury, and it is turned into another piece of ammunition for the matriarchy. It is amazing when you are surrounded by the females in colleges... what they do to your mind. You begin to see reasons to hate white men in almost every discussion. Never mind this character is entirely wrong...
Of course, he ignores the reality that men endured far worse problems working in industry than women in textile factories. How about the 1 in 10 white men employed in coal mines in 1890, black lung, death from cave ins, methane gas... What about the millions of men who died on the battlefield, tens of millions since the industrial revolution. Compared to the work the average white man was doing during the industrial revolution, a little wrist pain WAS trivial. They were no being buried alive, they were not be slaughtered by the thousands.
Even today, he ignores the reality that the corporate world is a female's dream job. Anyone who has worked in an office knows that it is made for and by women. He even talks about meat packing, ignoring the reality that is a man's job. In fact, they don't work in ANY dangerous jobs. The mortality rate for men on the job is far, far higher than that of women even today. RSI did not become a factor until women were working in mass numbers, because when women bitch things get changed. But women are not knocking on doors to do the real grunt work. They aren't becoming plumbers, builders, carpenters, subway workers, or countless other trades that are difficult and dangerous but NECESSARY in the grand scheme of civilization. Women want to sit in their comfy office while men slave away, actually contributing something to their community. The extent of women's desire to contribute is working in medical or educational professions.
Then of course there is the matter of artists... of which there are few women. Art IS painful. There are female painters, but only of the modern type of which little time or skill is required. Would a woman paint a church for 12 hours a day every day for years until her arm was sore as Michaelangelo did in the Sistine Chapel? Would a woman write music for days or weeks at a time as did a Mozart, to the point of exaustion? Would she play a musical instrument until her fingers bleed? What about the men who played the violin for the last 400 years, which is as great a RSI as any? Were they complaining?
So, by and large CT/RSI is an affluent white excuse to complain about jobs we aren't "satisfied" with.
No, I don't think so. I think you are affluent and white. You don't realize that the easy corporate life is a modern convenience to employ an army of women who really don't want to work in anything productive. You sit in your college, doing nothing of any real value, and you imagine that is what your male ancestors did. You are sadly mistaken. They were dying in battle, working hard to build a better community with blood and sweat, or attempting to brigher your dim world with beautiful art. You are dooming yourself to be another pussy whipped yes man, and will no doubt spend the rest of your life appeasing some bitching harpie... Is that the life you really want? If not, I suggest you look into what it means to be a man (or better yet, a WHITE man).
Wow. Now I really want a time machine to take me back to 100 years ago. Because according to you, before the advent of public schools, the world was a utopia.
Perhaps they did not have the modern conveniences, but 100 years ago people were undoubtedly more civilized than today. The world was hardly a utopia, but people were more intelligent and more kind towards one another. We are not talking about utopia, we are merely talking about day to day civility.
So the world was filled with clones of Plato and Aristotle, filling the world with enlightened thoughts. But tell me, if the world was filled with altruistic free thinkers, who formulated and implemented this vast conspiracy?
The first public school systems on a vast scale were implimented in Prussia after their defeat at the hands of Napolean in 1803 at the battle of Jena. The military regime of the german military machine was applied to the youngest of ages. It was later adopted by german industrial powers, until American powers grasp on to the idea. The French used forced schooling more for eliminating Celtic languages during the early days of the Third Republic.
I must say however that the initial impetuts was in fact Plato's republic, which you obviously have not read. Whole chapters deal with this very concept of forced education. Check out Warped Minds, Warped Societies some day. Plato was obviously influenced heavily by the Spartans.
One would suspect, especially one with a sense of humor and a taste for sarcasm, that Brave New World was written to satirize this type of world and make free thinkers examine their own world. (Oops, no more free thinkers. Blows that theory to shit.)
I don't follow your logic, but you are right. The book was written to satirize the way society was being forcibly changed.
And you escaped this web of mind control, how?
And who is talking about mind control? There is a big difference between social conditioning and mind control.
So, in this utopia of pre-public education, there were no violent acts, violations of others rights, or crime of any kind?
And who is making this assertion?
By amoral, I mean unthinking. The reason military training techniques are so necessary is you do not want your soldiers questioning your orders. This is perhaps desirable on the battlefield, but when it is transferred to every day life the results are unpredictable. Hate to tell you this, but Plato discusses this in the Republic.
The protagonists are of course the Germans. Read up on those very early post-napoleanic compulsory schools in Prussia.
Don't forget to refresh the tin-foil in your hat. Cheers.
Wow you're really fucking creative aren't you. Please, if you are going to insult me, try to use something a wee little bit more creative.
But what you don't realize is there has been a hundred year effort since the advent of public schools to train free humans to be part of an organization rather than think for themselves.
This is what the study of sociology was originally created for. This is why books like Brave New World were written. This is why you spend 16 years of your life in school.
The modern system of organization exemplified by the corporation was the product of vast studies and research, it permeates our very existence in every way. It was done so that people stop thinking for themselves and do what they are told.
It is a difficult concept because simply having free people live together does not produce the amoral behavior found in corporations. It requires a certain kind of person. That kind of person must either be trained in a school or desperate. It is usually the former.
Your apparent ignorance of this world wide trend over the last 100 years proves you are a dumbass. Don't be so quick to judge.
Wrong. It was Soviets who defeated Germany. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Even after Normandy, about 70% of German troops were fighting the Soviets, and Soviets fought them ALOT longer than Americans did.
What the fsck are you talking about??? Have you been indoctrinated by the soviet government? The German kill ratio against the russians was almost comical. A single German soldier was pretty much guaranteed to slaughter at least five russians. Without US assistance of arms, armor, and food the German invasion of Russia would have been a great triumph (and half of europe would have been spared the greatest menace in human history)
Germanys fate was sealed at Stalingrad. After that, it was all downhill for them. And that took place long before Normandy or tangible US involvement in the war.
You mean, one of the first battles faught with US built tanks and armor? You mean one of the first battles where soviet troops actually had automatic weapons? Maybe the Germans could not take Stalingrad, but the city was completely destroyed along with most of the other industrial cities in Russia.
We also cannot forget that the Soviets stopped the German offensive only at the cost of millions of lives. Even the Russian offensive on Berlin was ridiculous. The German home guard, composed of 300,000 old men and children was able to inflict heavy casualties on the Russians.
The loss of Germany is complex, but it had nothing to do with the Russians. The loss had EVERYTHING to do with the failure of the Luftwaffe to defend Germany against allied bombing raids, and their failure in the Battle of Briton. If the Germans had taken England, and the entire German military machine could be focused on Russia, there would have been no hope for the Russians.
You know, having been a big OS/2 user from 1992-1997, I hadn't heard this one.
I actually purchased Wordperfect 5.2 for OS/2 2.1, and quite frankly it was utter crap. I always held up Wordperfect as the prime example of how OS/2's Windows support killed the OS/2. It was sooo much faster to run Wordperfect 5.2 for Windows on OS/2 no one bothered with the native OS/2 version.
Especially compared to other wordprocessors of the time like Describe, WP was the slowest of the bunch.
Plus, Microsoft dropped support for OS/2 before any 32-bit version was released. Are you referring to 16-bit OS/2 1.x?
You may very well be right, but I think back to my days as a comp.os.os2.advocacy addict and I don't remember anyone discussing that specifically. It has been a while however.
don't procrastinate. Its as simple as that. That is a lesson worth learning, whearas micromanaging your life with a PDA is not... but I think someone else said that.
They are mistaken. Despite many mergers in the media industry in recent years, Americans today actually enjoy more diversity and competition in the media than at any other time in history, thanks to cable TV, Internet, the licensing of new broadcast stations and other factors.
Say what?
If it wasn't for the internet, this statement would be completely laughable. We aren't talking about the internet anyway, we are talking about RADIO. Why bring in other media forms. It is going to be 10 years before wireless internet truly makes radio obsolete, and even then... what about rural areas.
There is NOTHING on TV or the radio. NOTHING. It is a complete crapfest. The folks at the Heritage foundation are just incapable of admitting that in some cases, government regulation is good.
Err...that may well be how it was presented, but I think you'll find that the Russians had quite a lot to do with the defeat of Germany. Possibly more than any other nation (a hard thing for me to say, as I'm British), and they certainly earned their rest. And the scientists that helped with the American space programme were also captured German rocket scientists.
I think its pretty safe to say that without US support of Russia , the easern front would have collapsed far more easily. The Russians had no way of countering the German industrial machine, absolutely none. If the US had not supplied the Russians with critical supplies and weaponry, Germany would have easily captured all the major cities and the communists would have been pushed back to Siberia for the duration of the war.
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I have an older Casio E125 PocketPC with a 150mhz MIPS processor. What I can tell you is my 486DX2/66 with 16 megs of ram running OS/2 is MUCH faster than this pocketpc device running a stripped down OS with twice as much memory.
I don't know exactly how they are designing these portable devices, but they are not at all comparable to a regular PC.
Nor can democracy stop a thousand nuclear warheads. Come on, why would any nation with the technology to go to the moon and hurl rocks at us not just use nuclear weapons instead? They surely provide far more bang for the buck.
Within your lifetime, we will have the technology to stop nuclear missles. Look how far we have come with primitive technology like the Patriot Missile. It is unlikely however in your lifetime we will have the technology to stop a 5 million ton rock. There are no theories. We can't nuke it, tha will cause just as much damage. Using some kind of thruster would be impossible due to energy constraints. Something radically different would have to be constructed...
I can't see a financial justification to use it as a start point for Mars missions when there is nothing of use on Mars (even if there is water and "life").
Space programs afford a unique opportunity to employ a nationalistic command economy which DOESN'T revolve around the military.
For a country like China, desperately trying to find work for its 1 billion+ citizens, this could be a welcome program. What would we rather have them do? Go to the moon or build one million tanks and ICBM's?
In the case of Ayn Rand, it is pulp because like pulp fiction the concepts are very black and white, just as the characters in pulp fiction are limited to a narrow type.
It is not to say the ideas themselves are questionable, its a matter of presentation.I think you are misconstruing the designation "pulp" as being negative, it is not.
As far as an example of professional philosophy? Look at Plato and Nietzsche. That would be my first suggestion. Neither the matrix nor ayn rand have anything on those two. Read up on it, and I guarantee you will know what I mean.
Somewhere in between the extremes is a model whereby you can view individual/society problem in a way that makes clear sense.
Very, very true. Rand's model pehaps makes sense in the context of the world 100 years ago. You don't like the way one country/government/social system is organized? Fine, move someplace else. That USED to be possible, look at the American West. But today, we don't have those kinds of options. Rand's world view is simply incapable of handling our current situation with a precariously overpopulated world and 6 billion individuals living in it.
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When doctors start making generalizations like this, watch out. They've probably just read some stupid study that makes absurd pronouncements based on all kinds of statistical fallacies. The literature is full of them.
Umm have you ever looked at the bottle? One of the most common side effects is drowsiness, that is why it explicitly says on the bottle to not drive or operate machinery until you are familiar with its effects. In this case, the double blind tests have clearly indicated that when taken by people who are diagnosed with ADD, drowsiness is a real and common side effect. There is no fallacy, it is #1 side effect.
If only I had the time to criticize this post further, perhaps I will, but not today.
Firstly, that quote was taken from a speech Hitler made when it was becoming clear the French and English would declare war on Germany. Let us remember it was NOT the Germans who started World War II. (If the Allies cared so much about Poland they would not have let the Russians take it) Hitler was most certainly a demagogue, but given the rest of that speech... I would hardly say it was an endless ranting about the murder of Jews. One could argue that speech was about ending Jewish racist behavior something that obviously would have benefited the Palestinian people, or forced assimilation in some way. Whatever the meaning, the speech was a warning to the French and English that if they wanted a war they would come to regret it. And they did.
If the germans didn't kill 6 million Jews, then where did they go? I don't see any Jewish people in Madagascar. Are you also saying that all videos and photographs of the Holocaust were fabricated in order to further the interests of the "Zionist lobby"? Are you hinting that maybe Hitler built death camps that could only be used for mass extermination and never used them? Why waste resources pretending to commit atrocities?
There is no conclusive evidence 6 million Jews disappeared. Why do you think the cremation argument is put forth? We can't find the bodies because they were all cremated into dust! Maybe even a million, but most of those died of starvation. The Jews were certainly in concentration camps, but the evidence those camps existed to exterminate people is ridiculous. Why were so many found alive in 1945? Why in 1944 with untold starvation in all the major cities of Germany were the Jews still being fed enough to keep them alive in 1945? Why not just let them die?
It doesn't make sense. The truth is simple. The concentration camps served the same purpose as all concentration camps, including those used by the United States: to concentrate potential enemies within your borders. Right or wrong, that is what was going on.
As far as the camps themselves, I think the most likely explanation is the death camp aspects were installed by the Soviets after the fact as a propaganda tool. They certainly did far worse after the war. Look at the 2.5 million abortions which took place in 1946. Whats a few bullshit gas chambers?
I never said I supported the foundation of a Jewish state (I don't), and honestly I think Israel is partly responsible for the mess it is in.
Good, I am glad we agree on something. However, you must admit that if the Holocaust had NEVER occurred, no one would allow the state to exist. Its entire basis is "the Jews have suffered so much, so much more than anyone else, lets give them back the lands the Romans stole from then 1900 years ago".
You are trying to forget the most horrific act humanity has ever witnessed, and that is saddening.
I would hardly characterize it as that. The Soviets carted away millions of Germans, raped over 3 million German women (as abortion records clearly indicate). They killed over ten million in the Ukraine. No one is weeping for them. Bad shit happens, the Jews are not unique victims in the tragedy of life.
The Jews ARE unique however in that they have uniquely profited by their so called tragedy, ever since the Jewish diaspora was initiated by the Romans so very long ago.
I suggest you look at this site before you refute my facts. It will dispell your revisionist myths about the Holocaust.
I have seen the site, it lacks the evidence I seek. You want me to believe it? You find me the records which indicate 50 million gallons of fuel oil were redirected to concentration camps. If you believe that six million skeletons are out there, find me the proof they exist. Its not on that site, I can guarantee you of that. This is the old case of its impossible to prove a negative. I cannot prove that the holocau
1) ADHD is fairly new. But people have always had it. Instead of being diangosed, they were often called lazy, unfocused, or hyper.
You are absolutely wrong. Stimulants have been used to treat ADD since the 1930's! Amphetamine was first patented a longggg time ago. Back then, there were no antibiotics really, no vaccines... No modern drugs of any type.
Ritalin was patented in 1950.
In the 19th century, with the dawn of the industrial age the majority of the population used cocaine or caffeine in massive quantities.
Perhaps stimulants are simply a part of our modern culture. There has never been a time where humans lived in a modern fashion without stimulants. Perhaps longer lasting stimulants are simply more convenient, effective, and safe than others.
To say that ADD is a product of the 1990's is hopelessly naive. Where are you getting your information?
I don't think thats atypical at all by the way. The theory goes that for non-ADHD people, Ritalin has a noticable stimulant effect but the effect is less pronounced for people with the disorder.
The stuff used to make me so tired I would fall asleep. I ultimately switched to Adderall which didn't at all make me drowsy.
Anyway, my doctor told me it was very common for men in particular to use some ritalin as a nightcap. Worked for me...
Of course for those who have experience that effect, tranquilizers keep you awake. If I take 10mg of valium (a big dose granted) I will be bouncing off the walls for the next five hours... Weird.
Umm, you are quite mistaken. EVERYONE knew what was going on, but no one did anything to stop it. In 1939, Hitler made a public speech in which he said:
If the international finance-Jewry inside and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations into a world war yet again, then the outcome will not be the victory of Jewry, but rather the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!
I highly doubt the veracity of that quote. If it did occur in 1939, it was probably no long before it was becoming apparent France and Britain were going to declare war on Germany. Since deporting Jews from Germany was a stated goal and had been going on since 1936, I would imagine there is a mistransaltion of the word annihilation.
As has been said elsewhere, it was simply not feasible for Germany to kill six million 130 pound mammals, AND elmininate their bodies through cremation. They did not possess the oil to do so. Most of the desperate battles Germany fought were intended to secure oil reserves! One speech, mistranslated, does not indicate a mass effort to kill Jews.
The Nuremberg trials did not base their accounts on the public either, only so-called survivors, and Communist constructed "death" camps.
If you look anywhere, you will find there were mountains of evidence showing that people around the world knew that Jews were being murdered by the thousands. Take off your blindfold. There is no "Zionist lobby" spreading lies about the Holocaust. Your conspiracy theory is a bunch of shit.
The same Zionist lobby that spreads lies to the world to steal more land from the Palestinians? The same Zionist lobby which kills and concentrates unknown thousands of Palestinians in the name of peace? The same Zionists which today operate the only nation which excludes citizenship based on ethnicity AND religion? Why was the Waffen-SS able to recruit 60,000 muslims to fight the soviets? Where are the muslims in the Israeli army?
Zionists are behaving the same way they accuse Germans of behaving, and in the most outrageous twist, their justification is the holocaust!
10 million germans did not die of starvation in 1944. You are the one spreading lies. It is true, Germans died of starvation. They were NOT rounded up and ruthlessly executed, like the Jews, and far fewer germans died.
Check out the New York Times from November 3, 1945, page 14. You will read an essay where Bertrand Russell makes a case for providing food for the German people. I highly doubt a man of his stature would make such a heart felt appeal if he was 1) accutely aware of the suffering of the Jews and 2) aware there was in fact no problem with starvation.
He also has another essay I cannot find at the moment where he condemns the soviet deportation of Germans in the east, and especially in those parts of Poland which were at the time German.
I think you should study history for yourself instead of believing what others tell you. Listen to yourself, you're starting to sound like a racist neo-nazi maniac.
I have nothing against Jews, as a race or a religion. In fact, this is the great hypocricy of supporters such as yourself. YOU support the racist Zionists, but when one objects to their tactics of deceit and subterfuge, he is called a racist.
Zionism is the cause of most of the world's anti-jewish feelings. If Zionism ceased to exist, Jews could live in harmony with the rest of the world. It is that simple.
(in fact, i'm convinced that the only reason we fought hitler was that we thought he'd get a nuke - otherwise, we'd just have turned our eyes from the Holocaust like the rest of the world did.)
Perhaps you haven't read the transcripts of the Nuremberg trials, but its pretty clear that whatever the truth about the Holocaust no one knew what was going on Germany not even the German people themselves.
As far as the world knew, Germany was concentrating Jews and Communists during the war like the US was doing with the Japanese. The difference was Jews would be resettled in Madagascar or Israel.
It is very telling of the Zionist lobby that only a half century after the fact do they spread these lies that the whole of the civilized world sat idol as six million Jews were burned alive. When these same Zionists show equal sympothy for the 10 million German civilians who starved to death in 1944, perhaps then their words will have some weight.
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I have to say, for $2.00 a six pack, Schlitz is a mighty good beer. Especially with that lemonny goodnesss... mmmmmm
Lets not forget it was the #1 beer in America for nearly a century, as well as the beer that made Milwaukee famous!
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These days, after fifty years of oppressive boiler plate contracts, what matters is performance not the precise wording of the contract.
If two parties behave as if a contract binds them, then in most cases there is in fact a contract.
Surely however you must admit that it is through questioning that one truly learns. This is the contrast between learning through rote and through the socratic method.
Its a funny statement (not sure if you intended it to be), but you have to admit it ultimately will come to that... Who is going to be? Us or them?
I love college students.
Here we are discussing something as simple as repetetive strain injury, and it is turned into another piece of ammunition for the matriarchy. It is amazing when you are surrounded by the females in colleges... what they do to your mind. You begin to see reasons to hate white men in almost every discussion. Never mind this character is entirely wrong...
Of course, he ignores the reality that men endured far worse problems working in industry than women in textile factories. How about the 1 in 10 white men employed in coal mines in 1890, black lung, death from cave ins, methane gas... What about the millions of men who died on the battlefield, tens of millions since the industrial revolution. Compared to the work the average white man was doing during the industrial revolution, a little wrist pain WAS trivial. They were no being buried alive, they were not be slaughtered by the thousands.
Even today, he ignores the reality that the corporate world is a female's dream job. Anyone who has worked in an office knows that it is made for and by women. He even talks about meat packing, ignoring the reality that is a man's job. In fact, they don't work in ANY dangerous jobs. The mortality rate for men on the job is far, far higher than that of women even today. RSI did not become a factor until women were working in mass numbers, because when women bitch things get changed. But women are not knocking on doors to do the real grunt work. They aren't becoming plumbers, builders, carpenters, subway workers, or countless other trades that are difficult and dangerous but NECESSARY in the grand scheme of civilization. Women want to sit in their comfy office while men slave away, actually contributing something to their community. The extent of women's desire to contribute is working in medical or educational professions.
Then of course there is the matter of artists... of which there are few women. Art IS painful. There are female painters, but only of the modern type of which little time or skill is required. Would a woman paint a church for 12 hours a day every day for years until her arm was sore as Michaelangelo did in the Sistine Chapel? Would a woman write music for days or weeks at a time as did a Mozart, to the point of exaustion? Would she play a musical instrument until her fingers bleed? What about the men who played the violin for the last 400 years, which is as great a RSI as any? Were they complaining?
So, by and large CT/RSI is an affluent white excuse to complain about jobs we aren't "satisfied" with.
No, I don't think so. I think you are affluent and white. You don't realize that the easy corporate life is a modern convenience to employ an army of women who really don't want to work in anything productive. You sit in your college, doing nothing of any real value, and you imagine that is what your male ancestors did. You are sadly mistaken. They were dying in battle, working hard to build a better community with blood and sweat, or attempting to brigher your dim world with beautiful art. You are dooming yourself to be another pussy whipped yes man, and will no doubt spend the rest of your life appeasing some bitching harpie... Is that the life you really want? If not, I suggest you look into what it means to be a man (or better yet, a WHITE man).
Wow. Now I really want a time machine to take me back to 100 years ago. Because according to you, before the advent of public schools, the world was a utopia.
Perhaps they did not have the modern conveniences, but 100 years ago people were undoubtedly more civilized than today. The world was hardly a utopia, but people were more intelligent and more kind towards one another. We are not talking about utopia, we are merely talking about day to day civility.
So the world was filled with clones of Plato and Aristotle, filling the world with enlightened thoughts. But tell me, if the world was filled with altruistic free thinkers, who formulated and implemented this vast conspiracy?
The first public school systems on a vast scale were implimented in Prussia after their defeat at the hands of Napolean in 1803 at the battle of Jena. The military regime of the german military machine was applied to the youngest of ages. It was later adopted by german industrial powers, until American powers grasp on to the idea. The French used forced schooling more for eliminating Celtic languages during the early days of the Third Republic.
I must say however that the initial impetuts was in fact Plato's republic, which you obviously have not read. Whole chapters deal with this very concept of forced education. Check out Warped Minds, Warped Societies some day. Plato was obviously influenced heavily by the Spartans.
One would suspect, especially one with a sense of humor and a taste for sarcasm, that Brave New World was written to satirize this type of world and make free thinkers examine their own world. (Oops, no more free thinkers. Blows that theory to shit.)
I don't follow your logic, but you are right. The book was written to satirize the way society was being forcibly changed.
And you escaped this web of mind control, how?
And who is talking about mind control? There is a big difference between social conditioning and mind control.
So, in this utopia of pre-public education, there were no violent acts, violations of others rights, or crime of any kind?
And who is making this assertion?
By amoral, I mean unthinking. The reason military training techniques are so necessary is you do not want your soldiers questioning your orders. This is perhaps desirable on the battlefield, but when it is transferred to every day life the results are unpredictable. Hate to tell you this, but Plato discusses this in the Republic.
The protagonists are of course the Germans. Read up on those very early post-napoleanic compulsory schools in Prussia.
Don't forget to refresh the tin-foil in your hat. Cheers.
Wow you're really fucking creative aren't you. Please, if you are going to insult me, try to use something a wee little bit more creative.
But what you don't realize is there has been a hundred year effort since the advent of public schools to train free humans to be part of an organization rather than think for themselves.
This is what the study of sociology was originally created for. This is why books like Brave New World were written. This is why you spend 16 years of your life in school.
The modern system of organization exemplified by the corporation was the product of vast studies and research, it permeates our very existence in every way. It was done so that people stop thinking for themselves and do what they are told.
It is a difficult concept because simply having free people live together does not produce the amoral behavior found in corporations. It requires a certain kind of person. That kind of person must either be trained in a school or desperate. It is usually the former.
Your apparent ignorance of this world wide trend over the last 100 years proves you are a dumbass. Don't be so quick to judge.
Wrong. It was Soviets who defeated Germany. Anyone who claims otherwise doesn't know what they are talking about. Even after Normandy, about 70% of German troops were fighting the Soviets, and Soviets fought them ALOT longer than Americans did.
What the fsck are you talking about??? Have you been indoctrinated by the soviet government? The German kill ratio against the russians was almost comical. A single German soldier was pretty much guaranteed to slaughter at least five russians. Without US assistance of arms, armor, and food the German invasion of Russia would have been a great triumph (and half of europe would have been spared the greatest menace in human history)
Germanys fate was sealed at Stalingrad. After that, it was all downhill for them. And that took place long before Normandy or tangible US involvement in the war.
You mean, one of the first battles faught with US built tanks and armor? You mean one of the first battles where soviet troops actually had automatic weapons? Maybe the Germans could not take Stalingrad, but the city was completely destroyed along with most of the other industrial cities in Russia.
We also cannot forget that the Soviets stopped the German offensive only at the cost of millions of lives. Even the Russian offensive on Berlin was ridiculous. The German home guard, composed of 300,000 old men and children was able to inflict heavy casualties on the Russians.
The loss of Germany is complex, but it had nothing to do with the Russians. The loss had EVERYTHING to do with the failure of the Luftwaffe to defend Germany against allied bombing raids, and their failure in the Battle of Briton. If the Germans had taken England, and the entire German military machine could be focused on Russia, there would have been no hope for the Russians.
You know, having been a big OS/2 user from 1992-1997, I hadn't heard this one.
I actually purchased Wordperfect 5.2 for OS/2 2.1, and quite frankly it was utter crap. I always held up Wordperfect as the prime example of how OS/2's Windows support killed the OS/2. It was sooo much faster to run Wordperfect 5.2 for Windows on OS/2 no one bothered with the native OS/2 version.
Especially compared to other wordprocessors of the time like Describe, WP was the slowest of the bunch.
Plus, Microsoft dropped support for OS/2 before any 32-bit version was released. Are you referring to 16-bit OS/2 1.x?
You may very well be right, but I think back to my days as a comp.os.os2.advocacy addict and I don't remember anyone discussing that specifically. It has been a while however.
Some of us got these devices originally to do other things than store calender and contact info.
64 megabytes is useless when you want to listen to mp3s or watch movies on your PDA.
don't procrastinate. Its as simple as that. That is a lesson worth learning, whearas micromanaging your life with a PDA is not... but I think someone else said that.
every dictator was once a celebrity.
They are mistaken. Despite many mergers in the media industry in recent years, Americans today actually enjoy more diversity and competition in the media than at any other time in history, thanks to cable TV, Internet, the licensing of new broadcast stations and other factors.
Say what?
If it wasn't for the internet, this statement would be completely laughable. We aren't talking about the internet anyway, we are talking about RADIO. Why bring in other media forms. It is going to be 10 years before wireless internet truly makes radio obsolete, and even then... what about rural areas.
There is NOTHING on TV or the radio. NOTHING. It is a complete crapfest. The folks at the Heritage foundation are just incapable of admitting that in some cases, government regulation is good.
Err...that may well be how it was presented, but I think you'll find that the Russians had quite a lot to do with the defeat of Germany. Possibly more than any other nation (a hard thing for me to say, as I'm British), and they certainly earned their rest. And the scientists that helped with the American space programme were also captured German rocket scientists.
I think its pretty safe to say that without US support of Russia , the easern front would have collapsed far more easily. The Russians had no way of countering the German industrial machine, absolutely none. If the US had not supplied the Russians with critical supplies and weaponry, Germany would have easily captured all the major cities and the communists would have been pushed back to Siberia for the duration of the war.
I have an older Casio E125 PocketPC with a 150mhz MIPS processor. What I can tell you is my 486DX2/66 with 16 megs of ram running OS/2 is MUCH faster than this pocketpc device running a stripped down OS with twice as much memory.
I don't know exactly how they are designing these portable devices, but they are not at all comparable to a regular PC.
Nor can democracy stop a thousand nuclear warheads. Come on, why would any nation with the technology to go to the moon and hurl rocks at us not just use nuclear weapons instead? They surely provide far more bang for the buck.
Within your lifetime, we will have the technology to stop nuclear missles. Look how far we have come with primitive technology like the Patriot Missile. It is unlikely however in your lifetime we will have the technology to stop a 5 million ton rock. There are no theories. We can't nuke it, tha will cause just as much damage. Using some kind of thruster would be impossible due to energy constraints. Something radically different would have to be constructed...
I can't see a financial justification to use it as a start point for Mars missions when there is nothing of use on Mars (even if there is water and "life").
Space programs afford a unique opportunity to employ a nationalistic command economy which DOESN'T revolve around the military.
For a country like China, desperately trying to find work for its 1 billion+ citizens, this could be a welcome program. What would we rather have them do? Go to the moon or build one million tanks and ICBM's?
In the case of Ayn Rand, it is pulp because like pulp fiction the concepts are very black and white, just as the characters in pulp fiction are limited to a narrow type.
It is not to say the ideas themselves are questionable, its a matter of presentation.I think you are misconstruing the designation "pulp" as being negative, it is not.
As far as an example of professional philosophy? Look at Plato and Nietzsche. That would be my first suggestion. Neither the matrix nor ayn rand have anything on those two. Read up on it, and I guarantee you will know what I mean.
Somewhere in between the extremes is a model whereby you can view individual/society problem in a way that makes clear sense.
Very, very true. Rand's model pehaps makes sense in the context of the world 100 years ago. You don't like the way one country/government/social system is organized? Fine, move someplace else. That USED to be possible, look at the American West. But today, we don't have those kinds of options. Rand's world view is simply incapable of handling our current situation with a precariously overpopulated world and 6 billion individuals living in it.