Only if they're seeking money. A programmer who actually cares about programming doesn't want to give it up. Personally, I think technical lead, project manager, or architecture is about as far "up" as I care to go in this business. Beyond that, you're divorced form the code and that's just no fun.
I've actually turned down being groomed for management "one day" after a brief stint as an acting manager. I told them I'd do the work any time they were in a bind, but not interested long term. In a way I've shot myself in the foot should the coding work ever dry up but I don't think I could be happy as a manager. One interesting effect was that people seem to feel a lot less threatened by me - they know I'm not the good technical guy that could "beat them" working my way up the ladder, and they know I'm putting forward technical solutions on their own merits, not in order to big note myself.
Most importantly the project manager got your respect, and I dare say the respect of others on the team. Tech staff hate it when they have a manager that understands nothing and couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. Proving that he wasn't one of those would have been very good for his reputation and team morale. Pity he seems to have made the cardinal mistake of annoying those above him. Did he end up being fired or put aside? Then the team would have said "You know old so and so, he wasn't so bad. Not a great coder but at least he proved he could do it".
Personally I think managers should pair program with an experienced team member for at least half a day about once a month. I'm in the minority.
Have you ever had a golfer hit a golf ball into your penis and scrotum? Have you?
Okay I'm not so worried about a small asteroid that will burn up in the atmosphere, but if you're telling me some goofy alien with a wicked sense of humour is aiming for my nutsack, you have my attention!!!
Someone who is skilled in multiple different disciplines like Leonardo da Vinci, (Painting, sculpture, engineer, physicist, astronomer, anatomist, geologist, architect) or perhaps Jefferson, (author, lawyer, musician, botanist, diplomat)
And here I thought Polymath was the name of any parrot who could add. The ones that can't are called PolyWantACracker.
They're nuts. It's like pissing in the ocean, just what do they think they'll accomplish? Is there anyone in any government anywhere with a brain? I look around and see people out of work, rampant crime, war, and these asshole have time for this stupid shit?
They get a salary whether or not they do anything about those problems, but bribes only come if they pass laws large media companies want.
Both are popular with women, relatively speaking. Been in guilds in both where women were significant in number and some of them influential. Couple of female Guild Masters, did wonderful job. (yes, we used Ventrilo; not fakes) No need to make games designed to attract females. Games are games are games. Only need to avoid elements in games that are offensive to most women. Much harder task is to remove online offensive language and adolescent crudity from players.
Fuck off! Now show us yer tits love, and yer map o' Tassie!
To be fair its subscriber numbers put it a long way behind even EVE or LOTRO and Aion let alone WoW or many other MMO's. It would be better to say it sits right alongside Age of Conan.
Sits along side!? Well that's an opportunity to rationalize! A new MMO called Age of CIty of Conan Heroes! Flying barbarians with a big sword, big muscles, death ray eyes and a really bad Arnie accent! Who could resist that?
But how the hell do you accidentally vote on a piece of legislation?
The same way they usually accidentally get a girl pregnant. Only what they usually do to the girl, they do to the citizens, and instead of paying they get paid for it.
Keep in mind that since you're posting the result of two translation passes, in order to get an idea of how good the translation is you have to take the square root of the error. Yes, it's some pretty mangled English - but that's mangle^2, which can be significant and misleading.
I'm not going to learn German, Russian or Chinese, and my French is terrible, so mangle squared it has to be. The fact that you'd refer to it as mangle is very telling
You do realise that emphasising ideas by putting them in bold doesn't make them any more true don't you? Nor does repeating your argument with almost identical wording at the start of two paragraphs....and you're calling me the troll. Is that your standard ad hominem any time you dislike what your opponent in an argument says? Take a good look in the mirror. Only one of us is trolling.
So my responses are going to be brief and final.
- These are the shells of a product which would be copied anyway the moment they are released. Primary advantage gained here is not over Apple but over other copycat bottom dollar manufacturers. People who want to buy copied cases aren't going to spend extra on genuine product.
- I did not say these people should not be punished, but this punishment is asinine.
But this part is my favourite piece of drivel from your post:
Also, "very little to lose by committing future crimes"? You know that you eventually get out of jail, right? They didn't take away the right to have a family, work a job, save money for retirement, enjoy hobbies, travel the world, or anything permanent. They put them in jail. For crime.
- Giving someone in their line of work a criminal record does in fact take away their livelihood. No one will hire them. They'll be lucky to even get manual labor jobs with such a record. Whether or not it is deserved or appropriate punishment, it does affect their ability to feed their family, save money for retirement, and travel the world. You are aware that many countries will not let you enter if you have a criminal record in your country of origin, aren't you? That's for business or pleasure. And please explain what their family is suppose to do for income while they are in jail? More potential for crime right there. A society that makes it harder for a criminal (and his family!) to reform than to increase their crime is setting itself up for a viscious cycle. Not smart!
What you are talking is just plain incorrect foaming at the mouth drivel that makes no sense.
Would you suggest a fine? If the punishment is fining, it simply becomes part of the cost of doing business (each business dos a cost vs. benefit for breaking the law, based on financial incentives and disincentives).
In America, this comes with a 24-month sentence, and Australia is up to 15 years, so it isn't entirely out of line with what other parts of the world do.
Yep, lets take these small time crooks and send them to prison where they can associate with other criminals and learn more criminal skills. Then lets mark them for life with a criminal record so that they are penalised to begin with and have very little to lose by committing further crimes. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
I dug through this thread looking for the surely inevitable reply to ask you for actual evidence to back your claim (that Kurzweil's predictions are often wrong), so I could mod it up.
I can't find one, so I sacrifice my option to mod this thread to call you out. Can you back up your claim?
I certainly don't think Kurzweil has been perfect in his prediction, but I think he does quite a good job.
From the article you linked to "As you can tell by my gratuitous use of hyperlinks, many of these technologies are in development if not in commercial use. None, however, are so widespread or dominant in their field that we can point to them and say “oh, well that’s obviously come to pass.". I think that sums it up nicely. While some of the things he talks about are now possible, that isn't a difficult prediction since a lot of these things were in early development. Predicting what will be common place and dominant is much harder. e.g. Flying car prototypes exist but the Jetsons future we were all promised isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Have you ever used a text to speech interface deployed by a phone or utility company. Frustrating and I always end up at the human operator because it is unhelpful.
Yeah Google translate isn't THAT good at this stage. Here's what it did to your post. My favourite mistranslation: was in Russian. "I did a lot of work with translators and even they get it wrong, so I think Kurzweil is actually a way" can be taken to mean the opposite of "so I think Kurzweil is actually off in a way." which is very misleading. I'd use it cautiously for casual conversation even now, knowing there will be misunderstanding. But I wouldn't dare dream of reliability for anything critical in a decade. It would only need to tranlsate "Well we don't want war" to "We want war" once to kill millions.
Here is your post, translated English -> French -> English
Yeah, but for years, machine translation was blocked on Alta Vista babelfish gloomy... which was essentially a one to one translation of the dictionary (often without the help of the definition of right) to hilariously bad translations.
A couple of years, Google translate gave a big bump in the whole concept of using United Nations documents (which are usually 5 + languagels) as a faithful translation. It has many failures, but translations of Babel Babble past often unreadable for something that often range from decent translation of something that you can see if you put some thought into it.
I did a lot of work with translators and even they make mistakes, so I think Kurzweil is really a way out. IMO, by the end of this decade, machine translation will often be good enough (really, Google Translate should start looking for context clues and I do not think it will be 19 years away) but n 'there will ever be perfect because the language is not perfect. Watch humans communicate sometimes, it's not a strict protocol, misunderstandings can occur any time between people. But when a machine is wrong, people will point to it as evil, instead of the very nature of language.
Here is your post, translated English -> Chinese -> English
Yes, but over the years, machine translation is boring to stay in Alta Vista's Babelfish platform... which is basically a one to one translation dictionary (usually not the right to use the definition of) the cheerful bad translation.
A couple years ago, Google translation of a big jolt to the whole concept of using United Nations documents (which is usually 5 + languagels) as a reliable translation. It has a lot of hiccups, but the translation is often unreadable babble from Babel things, often translated from a decent range of things you can calculate, if you want to go some.
I've done a lot of work, even their translation wrong, so I think Kuziweier actually way off. Haishizuzhi, by the end of this decade, machine translation is often not good enough (really, Google translator need to start looking for more context clues, I can not believe it will be 19 years later), but there will never be perfect because language itself is not perfect. A look at human communication, it is not a strict protocol, can be misunderstanding between the people what happened. However, when a machine to get it wrong, people will point to it's bad, rather than the nature of language itself.
Here is your post, translated English -> Russian -> English
Yes, but for many years, machine translation is stuck in a dreary Babelfish Alta Vista in... which was basically the dictionary translation 12:59 (often without proper identification) to have fun bad translations.
A couple of years ago, Google translate gave a big blow to the whole concept of United Nations documents (which are usually 5 + languagels) as a reliable translation. It has a lot of hiccups, but the translations often traveled from unreadable babble babel to what is often varied from decent translation of the fact that you can find out if you put some thought into it.
I did a lot of work with translators and even they get it wrong, so I think Kurzweil is actually a way. IMO, by the end of this decade, machine translation will often be
The lesson that everyone needs to draw from this is that it's great that Android is open and allows you to do pretty much whatever you want. However if you start flashing your own ROMs and/or using markets other than the official Google one (and possibly Amazon's app store) then you better be REALLY SURE you know what you're doing and not just blindly download any random app from any random source that strikes your fancy. Of course hopefully this isn't news to people who are already computer savy.
That's the lesson you took from this? I would have thought the lesson to learn was that customer hostile bullshit, like trying to allow apps to install without their consent, is a breach of basic security principles.
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Only if they're seeking money. A programmer who actually cares about programming doesn't want to give it up. Personally, I think technical lead, project manager, or architecture is about as far "up" as I care to go in this business. Beyond that, you're divorced form the code and that's just no fun.
I've actually turned down being groomed for management "one day" after a brief stint as an acting manager. I told them I'd do the work any time they were in a bind, but not interested long term. In a way I've shot myself in the foot should the coding work ever dry up but I don't think I could be happy as a manager. One interesting effect was that people seem to feel a lot less threatened by me - they know I'm not the good technical guy that could "beat them" working my way up the ladder, and they know I'm putting forward technical solutions on their own merits, not in order to big note myself.
Most importantly the project manager got your respect, and I dare say the respect of others on the team. Tech staff hate it when they have a manager that understands nothing and couldn't code their way out of a paper bag. Proving that he wasn't one of those would have been very good for his reputation and team morale. Pity he seems to have made the cardinal mistake of annoying those above him. Did he end up being fired or put aside? Then the team would have said "You know old so and so, he wasn't so bad. Not a great coder but at least he proved he could do it".
Personally I think managers should pair program with an experienced team member for at least half a day about once a month. I'm in the minority.
Have you ever had a golfer hit a golf ball into your penis and scrotum? Have you?
Okay I'm not so worried about a small asteroid that will burn up in the atmosphere, but if you're telling me some goofy alien with a wicked sense of humour is aiming for my nutsack, you have my attention!!!
Someone who is skilled in multiple different disciplines like Leonardo da Vinci, (Painting, sculpture, engineer, physicist, astronomer, anatomist, geologist, architect) or perhaps Jefferson, (author, lawyer, musician, botanist, diplomat)
And here I thought Polymath was the name of any parrot who could add. The ones that can't are called PolyWantACracker.
So the ultimate way to get rid of a person in any era is to call them a communist terrorist faggot with an English public school education?
They're missing my favourite open thing... ...open legs ;-)
They're nuts. It's like pissing in the ocean, just what do they think they'll accomplish? Is there anyone in any government anywhere with a brain? I look around and see people out of work, rampant crime, war, and these asshole have time for this stupid shit?
They get a salary whether or not they do anything about those problems, but bribes only come if they pass laws large media companies want.
I knew it! I'm surrounded by assholes!
Keep firing, assholes!
Ludicrous speed!!!
And no matter what you say about Lady Gaga, she had some meat for source material.
Do you mean that ridiculous outfit made of meat that she wore once?
Every post for the last 3 ends in the word "asshole"
That's the trouble with slashdot....too many assholes.
Dude, the preferred nomenclature is "Winklevii".
But Levi Jeans has a trademark on it.
Both are popular with women, relatively speaking. Been in guilds in both where women were significant in number and some of them influential. Couple of female Guild Masters, did wonderful job. (yes, we used Ventrilo; not fakes) No need to make games designed to attract females. Games are games are games. Only need to avoid elements in games that are offensive to most women. Much harder task is to remove online offensive language and adolescent crudity from players.
Fuck off! Now show us yer tits love, and yer map o' Tassie!
What bollox. There are lots of female lead characters. Lara Crotch ;-) Faith in Mirror's Edge. Chell from Portal 1 and 2. Just off the top of my head.
To be fair its subscriber numbers put it a long way behind even EVE or LOTRO and Aion let alone WoW or many other MMO's. It would be better to say it sits right alongside Age of Conan.
Sits along side!? Well that's an opportunity to rationalize! A new MMO called Age of CIty of Conan Heroes! Flying barbarians with a big sword, big muscles, death ray eyes and a really bad Arnie accent! Who could resist that?
But how the hell do you accidentally vote on a piece of legislation?
The same way they usually accidentally get a girl pregnant. Only what they usually do to the girl, they do to the citizens, and instead of paying they get paid for it.
Keep in mind that since you're posting the result of two translation passes, in order to get an idea of how good the translation is you have to take the square root of the error. Yes, it's some pretty mangled English - but that's mangle^2, which can be significant and misleading.
I'm not going to learn German, Russian or Chinese, and my French is terrible, so mangle squared it has to be. The fact that you'd refer to it as mangle is very telling
You do realise that emphasising ideas by putting them in bold doesn't make them any more true don't you? Nor does repeating your argument with almost identical wording at the start of two paragraphs. ...and you're calling me the troll. Is that your standard ad hominem any time you dislike what your opponent in an argument says? Take a good look in the mirror. Only one of us is trolling.
So my responses are going to be brief and final.
- These are the shells of a product which would be copied anyway the moment they are released. Primary advantage gained here is not over Apple but over other copycat bottom dollar manufacturers. People who want to buy copied cases aren't going to spend extra on genuine product.
- I did not say these people should not be punished, but this punishment is asinine.
But this part is my favourite piece of drivel from your post:
Also, "very little to lose by committing future crimes"? You know that you eventually get out of jail, right? They didn't take away the right to have a family, work a job, save money for retirement, enjoy hobbies, travel the world, or anything permanent. They put them in jail. For crime .
- Giving someone in their line of work a criminal record does in fact take away their livelihood. No one will hire them. They'll be lucky to even get manual labor jobs with such a record. Whether or not it is deserved or appropriate punishment, it does affect their ability to feed their family, save money for retirement, and travel the world. You are aware that many countries will not let you enter if you have a criminal record in your country of origin, aren't you? That's for business or pleasure. And please explain what their family is suppose to do for income while they are in jail? More potential for crime right there. A society that makes it harder for a criminal (and his family!) to reform than to increase their crime is setting itself up for a viscious cycle. Not smart!
What you are talking is just plain incorrect foaming at the mouth drivel that makes no sense.
Would you suggest a fine? If the punishment is fining, it simply becomes part of the cost of doing business (each business dos a cost vs. benefit for breaking the law, based on financial incentives and disincentives).
In America, this comes with a 24-month sentence, and Australia is up to 15 years, so it isn't entirely out of line with what other parts of the world do.
Yep, lets take these small time crooks and send them to prison where they can associate with other criminals and learn more criminal skills. Then lets mark them for life with a criminal record so that they are penalised to begin with and have very little to lose by committing further crimes. Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
I dug through this thread looking for the surely inevitable reply to ask you for actual evidence to back your claim (that Kurzweil's predictions are often wrong), so I could mod it up.
I can't find one, so I sacrifice my option to mod this thread to call you out. Can you back up your claim?
I certainly don't think Kurzweil has been perfect in his prediction, but I think he does quite a good job.
From the article you linked to "As you can tell by my gratuitous use of hyperlinks, many of these technologies are in development if not in commercial use. None, however, are so widespread or dominant in their field that we can point to them and say “oh, well that’s obviously come to pass.". I think that sums it up nicely. While some of the things he talks about are now possible, that isn't a difficult prediction since a lot of these things were in early development. Predicting what will be common place and dominant is much harder. e.g. Flying car prototypes exist but the Jetsons future we were all promised isn't going to happen anytime soon.
Have you ever used a text to speech interface deployed by a phone or utility company. Frustrating and I always end up at the human operator because it is unhelpful.
Yeah Google translate isn't THAT good at this stage. Here's what it did to your post. My favourite mistranslation: was in Russian. "I did a lot of work with translators and even they get it wrong, so I think Kurzweil is actually a way" can be taken to mean the opposite of "so I think Kurzweil is actually off in a way." which is very misleading. I'd use it cautiously for casual conversation even now, knowing there will be misunderstanding. But I wouldn't dare dream of reliability for anything critical in a decade. It would only need to tranlsate "Well we don't want war" to "We want war" once to kill millions.
Here is your post, translated English -> French -> English
Yeah, but for years, machine translation was blocked on Alta Vista babelfish gloomy ... which was essentially a one to one translation of the dictionary (often without the help of the definition of right) to hilariously bad translations.
A couple of years, Google translate gave a big bump in the whole concept of using United Nations documents (which are usually 5 + languagels) as a faithful translation. It has many failures, but translations of Babel Babble past often unreadable for something that often range from decent translation of something that you can see if you put some thought into it.
I did a lot of work with translators and even they make mistakes, so I think Kurzweil is really a way out. IMO, by the end of this decade, machine translation will often be good enough (really, Google Translate should start looking for context clues and I do not think it will be 19 years away) but n 'there will ever be perfect because the language is not perfect. Watch humans communicate sometimes, it's not a strict protocol, misunderstandings can occur any time between people. But when a machine is wrong, people will point to it as evil, instead of the very nature of language.
Here is your post, translated English -> Chinese -> English
Yes, but over the years, machine translation is boring to stay in Alta Vista's Babelfish platform ... which is basically a one to one translation dictionary (usually not the right to use the definition of) the cheerful bad translation.
A couple years ago, Google translation of a big jolt to the whole concept of using United Nations documents (which is usually 5 + languagels) as a reliable translation. It has a lot of hiccups, but the translation is often unreadable babble from Babel things, often translated from a decent range of things you can calculate, if you want to go some.
I've done a lot of work, even their translation wrong, so I think Kuziweier actually way off. Haishizuzhi, by the end of this decade, machine translation is often not good enough (really, Google translator need to start looking for more context clues, I can not believe it will be 19 years later), but there will never be perfect because language itself is not perfect. A look at human communication, it is not a strict protocol, can be misunderstanding between the people what happened. However, when a machine to get it wrong, people will point to it's bad, rather than the nature of language itself.
Here is your post, translated English -> Russian -> English
Yes, but for many years, machine translation is stuck in a dreary Babelfish Alta Vista in ... which was basically the dictionary translation 12:59 (often without proper identification) to have fun bad translations.
A couple of years ago, Google translate gave a big blow to the whole concept of United Nations documents (which are usually 5 + languagels) as a reliable translation. It has a lot of hiccups, but the translations often traveled from unreadable babble babel to what is often varied from decent translation of the fact that you can find out if you put some thought into it.
I did a lot of work with translators and even they get it wrong, so I think Kurzweil is actually a way. IMO, by the end of this decade, machine translation will often be
These guys engaged in industrial espionage, pure and simple.
Yes, and they should have been punished but years in prison? You realize these weren't military components for a nuclear missile right?
vsys -goawayauditors -noreallyf&#$off ls -l /tmp/pornstash
just hasn't got the same ring to it as
sudo ls -l /tmp/pornstash
Show me any under-20 something with an extensive book collection from any time period and I'll show you the exception to the rule.
My kids are 1 and 2. They have a metric ton of children's books. My 1 year old tends to be as interested in eating them as reading them though.
The lesson that everyone needs to draw from this is that it's great that Android is open and allows you to do pretty much whatever you want. However if you start flashing your own ROMs and/or using markets other than the official Google one (and possibly Amazon's app store) then you better be REALLY SURE you know what you're doing and not just blindly download any random app from any random source that strikes your fancy.
Of course hopefully this isn't news to people who are already computer savy.
That's the lesson you took from this? I would have thought the lesson to learn was that customer hostile bullshit, like trying to allow apps to install without their consent, is a breach of basic security principles.
The halal places are shutting down?
Medical condition. I'm an atheist (and my background is Christian not Muslim by the way).