I used to do knoppix->Debian install regularly, but the main problem is that it has problems upgrading kernels. Modules just didn't work - all this despite using knoppix 3.4 which includes kernel2.6 as a default, so upgrading shouldn't be a problem. As a default (or after dist-upgrade, not sure), hotplug is included in the default install. So if you most of the modules are automatically "modprobe'd" even if you miss anyone of them in/etc/modules.
I did have some problems getting X though, but luckily I had a backup of my XF86Config-4. This was the only real problem I had.
I've used the nightly builds (>beta4) about 6 times for installations on seperate occations within the last 2 weeks. Everything works much better than previous versions. No problems when it tried to probe my DHCP internet account. I'm now back at school where my pppoe which isn't DHCP based and obviously it failed detection.
Thankfully the pppoeconf package is unpacked before the initial reboot and is available after the bootstrap. Ran pppoeconf and got my connection. Still, though, I had to do this via virtual console. For the first-time debian user, they may not know pppoeconf as the name to get around this and will be stuck unable to do any sort of net-install.
i absolutely agree with your point, but it's just supply vs demand. When there's an increasing demand (need of linux experience), the supply's (linux development) going to increase as well, so in general it's a good sign overall.
exactly. just look at how many american films you watch you get to hear that the name engineer gets mentioned. even in the matrix-1 training program scene you hear "lawyers, doctors" but you dont hear engineers - and this is a sci-fi film.
GNOME is slow, hell to upgrade and install, Yes, even on debian with apt-get, a lot of times, package break even on unstable - which is supposed to be pretty stable. recently it's been alright though. but i have to disagree with you about speed comparision. Gnome actually runs faster on my box compared to KDE. My computer's a PIII 450MHz. Also Nautilus is a faster file manager and beats konqueror hands down in terms of speed. I actually changed to gnome for a week since last week - but i'm now using xfce4 as my primary WM because of even better performance.
[KDE] runs just a notch slower than freakin' WindowMaker. It's more than fast enough for me.:) it's not really the window manager's responsiveness as being slow, but once you have a number of apps opened - web browser, mail, IM, and a few terminals, the apps' responsiveness really start to take a toll. I dont have problems as much in gnome, and almost non-existent in xfce4 and obviously, fluxbox.
and KDE can be the prettiest WM if you tweak it right you can use crystal icon themes on the xfce4 bar, which is kde's icon set really. i think xfce4's window decorations actually look better, and it runs a lot faster.
i've just switched away from kde last week and havent been looking back. i had been using it ever since the 3.x releases and frankly eventhough it's been going faster, but it's still too slow on my machine.
if you'd like slightly more 'eye candy', you should use xfce4. you can use crystal theme for your panel icons. i disabled the taskbar and am using the 'tasklist' plugin (xfce4-goodies) in my panel, so i only have one bar instead of two, saving some screenspace.
also you wont have font inconsistencies when running xfce4. the themes run faster, and the default theme is lightning fast.
the only kde app i run is Kile (it's just the best front-end out there for latex on linux).
also, i use wterm for my commandline - much faster than konsole. if you miss the 'tabs' in konsole, then i guess you can go back to fluxbox...
i think with the 2nd and 3rd movies, you have guys like joel silver that are just total sell-outs - trying to capitalize on everything they can. the repeated scenes was what seemed to "work" for the first film, so they're trying to have as much of that in the sequels to please the fans, so to speak. and they tried to "raise the bar so high that there is no bar" - fuck, i hate it when he uses that line all the time. it only raised expectations.
I did actually enjoyed the dialogues because of the philosophical aspects, perhaps partially because I didn't take any philosophy courses. The acting may have been "wooden" because that's the way they wanted neo's character to be - not making this up, read this somewhere. as for the other characters, well, they werent meant to be the a-list big budget actors in the first place because the first film wasnt meant to make any money:)
The ending was quite horrible and poorly done, and I'm hoping that the edited scenes will fill in some of the gaps to make it more coherent....
the score mentioned in grandparent post about the hindu lyrics are quite awesome i think.
i use debian, but here's one that should affect all linux distros:
* Font size: how about the fact that running a gtk+ app on kde would have different font sizes when running the same app under native gnome? or vice versa: running a kde app would have different font size in kde and gnome - to me that's annoying. for whatever reason the tool bar font config is greyed out (disabled) under gnome and you'll have to adjust that in kde's control center.
* As for install divx codecs, in debian you only need add (for debian unstable) - but should work in apt-get in redhat/fedora...
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
in/etc/apt/sources.list
and run: apt-get install w32codecs
* linux video drivers: DRI anyone? Not really linux's fault, but companies like ATI... *sigh* anyway...
* filemanager: I use the command line for all file operations, but the new user might prefer a file manager that's fast and responsive. Konqueror's too slow on my PIII 450HMz (384MB ram), but I found nautilus to be surprisingly fast, but that's only the case when I'm running gnome - because it gets preload.
* X being responsive: let's try dragging a window and wiggle it around your screen. just look at all the after-images...... thankfully there's xfce4 and fluxbox.
not entirely sure firefox will be completely immune though. I was browsing some rom site and whem i tried clicking on the download page, it automatically tries to install a.xpi extention on my browser before presenting me the download link of the rom.
I just purchased an ATI 9200-based card few days ago, and it just wouldnt run DRI properly. I had the lines in my xf86config files, tried both the open X drivers, and also the official ATI drivers. Both had no problems running 2D, but when I used the ATI ones, it often refused to start X - or crashes my gdm/kdm/xdm. None of them supported DRI.
i thought the DOJ once told M$ to strip down their version of windows not to include IE and the other junk, and M$'s reaction was that it wasnt possible because everything's part of the OS and completely tied to each other.... and now we have this version of windows?
i think maintanance may be just as important as the initial setup. Just make sure that the janitors wipe the tables and vacuum regularly. most of the time offices are just so dust and keyboards are so greasy - not a nice environment to work in.
But about the initial setup... maybe having a soundproof room where coworkers can jam during a break would be cool....:D
MSN seriously needs a serious contender, and Jabber + Big Corp is the only one that can grant it.
actually i personally think good old ICQ still beats MSN messenger hands down. it was still rocking until ICQ+BigCorp (AOL) took over (, which happens unfortunately to all the apps/companies that AOL takes over (icq, nullsoft/winamp, netscape).) ICQ is turned bad because the recent clients are ultra-bloated and filled with ads. even trillian is slow. The best app i still believe for the protocol is LICQ under *nix.
There's also no offline messessging in MSN.
Only thing I dislike about jabber is that the servers are always down.
sure the rhythm section's based on GNR's former members, but the album wasnt as good as we expected. You do hear a little bit of Slash'es soloing that brings you back to the GNR days, but I had never liked Stone Temple Pilots. The songs sounded more like STP than GNR IMHO.
However, it has been a long time since a decent band has produced an album that truely rocks. These days, every band either plays punk (which I hate) or plays music that's entirely based on texture and effects and completely forget about song writing, decent baseline and non-repetitive melodies.
I saw 3 different torrents of this album on suprnova.org the other day.
Heard an interview with them on a Vancouver radio station last week, asking them about what they think about people downloading their albums off the Internet (by that time so many people already had copies of their albums and I'm actually quite surprised now just finding out that the CDs were copy-protected) - they said something about having their concert tickets jacked up more to get their revenues.
Apparently their entire US tour got sold out within 10 minutes, so I don't think jacking up concert tix would have that much of an impact...
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hey, looks like XPLite supports SP2 too. Say bubye to Windows File Protection (WFP), IE and OE! :D
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I used to do knoppix->Debian install regularly, but the main problem is that it has problems upgrading kernels. Modules just didn't work - all this despite using knoppix 3.4 which includes kernel2.6 as a default, so upgrading shouldn't be a problem. As a default (or after dist-upgrade, not sure), hotplug is included in the default install. So if you most of the modules are automatically "modprobe'd" even if you miss anyone of them in /etc/modules.
I did have some problems getting X though, but luckily I had a backup of my XF86Config-4. This was the only real problem I had.
I've used the nightly builds (>beta4) about 6 times for installations on seperate occations within the last 2 weeks. Everything works much better than previous versions. No problems when it tried to probe my DHCP internet account. I'm now back at school where my pppoe which isn't DHCP based and obviously it failed detection.
Thankfully the pppoeconf package is unpacked before the initial reboot and is available after the bootstrap. Ran pppoeconf and got my connection. Still, though, I had to do this via virtual console. For the first-time debian user, they may not know pppoeconf as the name to get around this and will be stuck unable to do any sort of net-install.
i absolutely agree with your point, but it's just supply vs demand. When there's an increasing demand (need of linux experience), the supply's (linux development) going to increase as well, so in general it's a good sign overall.
ahh, so you were refering to these tiger promotional ads? ;)
Gotta love 'em.
next site to be ddos'ed: windows update.
bomb the site so none of the windows users can patch their OS and make them vulnerable
because of this definition, lot of us like to dispute whether GOLF is actuall a sport. personally I think it's a game, but definately not a sport.
lap dances in montreal are also cheaper at $10 a song ;)
basically we all know they're just copying apple once again. apple already saw it coming few weeks ago. check out the banners quite funny.
exactly. just look at how many american films you watch you get to hear that the name engineer gets mentioned. even in the matrix-1 training program scene you hear "lawyers, doctors" but you dont hear engineers - and this is a sci-fi film.
GNOME is slow, hell to upgrade and install,
:)
Yes, even on debian with apt-get, a lot of times, package break even on unstable - which is supposed to be pretty stable. recently it's been alright though. but i have to disagree with you about speed comparision. Gnome actually runs faster on my box compared to KDE. My computer's a PIII 450MHz. Also Nautilus is a faster file manager and beats konqueror hands down in terms of speed. I actually changed to gnome for a week since last week - but i'm now using xfce4 as my primary WM because of even better performance.
[KDE] runs just a notch slower than freakin' WindowMaker. It's more than fast enough for me.
it's not really the window manager's responsiveness as being slow, but once you have a number of apps opened - web browser, mail, IM, and a few terminals, the apps' responsiveness really start to take a toll. I dont have problems as much in gnome, and almost non-existent in xfce4 and obviously, fluxbox.
and KDE can be the prettiest WM if you tweak it right
you can use crystal icon themes on the xfce4 bar, which is kde's icon set really. i think xfce4's window decorations actually look better, and it runs a lot faster.
i've just switched away from kde last week and havent been looking back. i had been using it ever since the 3.x releases and frankly eventhough it's been going faster, but it's still too slow on my machine.
if you'd like slightly more 'eye candy', you should use xfce4. you can use crystal theme for your panel icons. i disabled the taskbar and am using the 'tasklist' plugin (xfce4-goodies) in my panel, so i only have one bar instead of two, saving some screenspace.
also you wont have font inconsistencies when running xfce4. the themes run faster, and the default theme is lightning fast.
the only kde app i run is Kile (it's just the best front-end out there for latex on linux).
also, i use wterm for my commandline - much faster than konsole. if you miss the 'tabs' in konsole, then i guess you can go back to fluxbox...
i think with the 2nd and 3rd movies, you have guys like joel silver that are just total sell-outs - trying to capitalize on everything they can. the repeated scenes was what seemed to "work" for the first film, so they're trying to have as much of that in the sequels to please the fans, so to speak. and they tried to "raise the bar so high that there is no bar" - fuck, i hate it when he uses that line all the time. it only raised expectations.
:)
I did actually enjoyed the dialogues because of the philosophical aspects, perhaps partially because I didn't take any philosophy courses. The acting may have been "wooden" because that's the way they wanted neo's character to be - not making this up, read this somewhere. as for the other characters, well, they werent meant to be the a-list big budget actors in the first place because the first film wasnt meant to make any money
The ending was quite horrible and poorly done, and I'm hoping that the edited scenes will fill in some of the gaps to make it more coherent....
the score mentioned in grandparent post about the hindu lyrics are quite awesome i think.
* Font size: how about the fact that running a gtk+ app on kde would have different font sizes when running the same app under native gnome? or vice versa: running a kde app would have different font size in kde and gnome - to me that's annoying. for whatever reason the tool bar font config is greyed out (disabled) under gnome and you'll have to adjust that in kde's control center.
* As for install divx codecs, in debian you only need add (for debian unstable) - but should work in apt-get in redhat/fedora...
* linux video drivers: DRI anyone? Not really linux's fault, but companies like ATI... *sigh* anyway...
* filemanager: I use the command line for all file operations, but the new user might prefer a file manager that's fast and responsive. Konqueror's too slow on my PIII 450HMz (384MB ram), but I found nautilus to be surprisingly fast, but that's only the case when I'm running gnome - because it gets preload.
* X being responsive: let's try dragging a window and wiggle it around your screen. just look at all the after-images...
not entirely sure firefox will be completely immune though. I was browsing some rom site and whem i tried clicking on the download page, it automatically tries to install a .xpi extention on my browser before presenting me the download link of the rom.
now with that post on slashdot, your mozilla numbers are going to rise up even more ;)
I just purchased an ATI 9200-based card few days ago, and it just wouldnt run DRI properly. I had the lines in my xf86config files, tried both the open X drivers, and also the official ATI drivers. Both had no problems running 2D, but when I used the ATI ones, it often refused to start X - or crashes my gdm/kdm/xdm. None of them supported DRI.
since there are quite a few other versions of wine out there...
has anyone had any sort of sucess running windows apps, particularly office on linux - on a free version of wine, not crossover?
Not if I can actually get DRI to work on my ATI 9200 chipset (annoyingly impossible even after trying the free-closed-source ati drivers)...
i thought the DOJ once told M$ to strip down their version of windows not to include IE and the other junk, and M$'s reaction was that it wasnt possible because everything's part of the OS and completely tied to each other.... and now we have this version of windows?
i think maintanance may be just as important as the initial setup. Just make sure that the janitors wipe the tables and vacuum regularly. most of the time offices are just so dust and keyboards are so greasy - not a nice environment to work in.
:D
But about the initial setup... maybe having a soundproof room where coworkers can jam during a break would be cool....
MSN seriously needs a serious contender, and Jabber + Big Corp is the only one that can grant it.
actually i personally think good old ICQ still beats MSN messenger hands down. it was still rocking until ICQ+BigCorp (AOL) took over (, which happens unfortunately to all the apps/companies that AOL takes over (icq, nullsoft/winamp, netscape).) ICQ is turned bad because the recent clients are ultra-bloated and filled with ads. even trillian is slow. The best app i still believe for the protocol is LICQ under *nix.
There's also no offline messessging in MSN.
Only thing I dislike about jabber is that the servers are always down.
sure the rhythm section's based on GNR's former members, but the album wasnt as good as we expected. You do hear a little bit of Slash'es soloing that brings you back to the GNR days, but I had never liked Stone Temple Pilots. The songs sounded more like STP than GNR IMHO.
However, it has been a long time since a decent band has produced an album that truely rocks. These days, every band either plays punk (which I hate) or plays music that's entirely based on texture and effects and completely forget about song writing, decent baseline and non-repetitive melodies.
I saw 3 different torrents of this album on suprnova.org the other day.
Heard an interview with them on a Vancouver radio station last week, asking them about what they think about people downloading their albums off the Internet (by that time so many people already had copies of their albums and I'm actually quite surprised now just finding out that the CDs were copy-protected) - they said something about having their concert tickets jacked up more to get their revenues.
Apparently their entire US tour got sold out within 10 minutes, so I don't think jacking up concert tix would have that much of an impact...
As might be expected, reactions range from understanding to enraged.
and we shall show our "understanding" by having their site posted and slashdotting their site...