>For some reason, when people hear the word >Mormon, they think of some self-righteous >religious group who means well, but they're >beliefs have warped their views to the point >where Mormons are out of touch with reality.
Hmm... I wonder why they think that...
>Sen. Hatch I know to be a really decent guy
Ahh! So *that's* why they think that.
Actually, if Joseph Smith had had a bit more book learning, that would've helped too:) *ahem* silk *ahem*
Would you guys laugh if Richard Stallman had scizophrenia?
Hrm, let's see... suppose he had a personality disorder whereby he pontificated loudly about preposterous ideological issues while churning out ever-more-irrelevant bloated text editors... yeah, I'd laugh.
So I'd probably laugh at schizophrenia too.
Incidenally, would it kill all the people who throw the word 'schitzophrenia' around thinking it has something to do with multiple personalities to actually look it up in a dictionary?
a speed that 'a "better" vulnerability would have enabled infection of the entire internet in 15 minutes, a "flash worm" or a "Warhol Worm."' I think 'better' to mean 'able to infect across a lot of platforms.'"
I love the way, after creating a chaotic sentence by leading into a quote the wrong way, he then tries to fix it up by writing another sentence that also contains an error. He didn't press the left arrow key a few times to go back and fix the first sentence, he just kept writing:)
>Why would linux kernel hackers be adding tools >like HTTP servers and packet filtering into the >kernel, if it was somehow the UNIX way to keep >them as seperate processes managed by the kernel?
"Hello? Hi, Jim. I'd like you to put everything I have in Microsoft stocks. Just buy at market all day. Oh, and if I'm in any of those little Open Source companies get me the hell out of them. It's just a hunch."
Seriously, they are *not* doing this, are they? I can just picture a whole bunch of 19-year-olds with stuffed penguin toys on their desks going, "Wow, look at the great performance gains we can get just by putting all applications in kernel mode! Take that, Micro$loth!"
"What if there were a form of transport that was really green and didn't damage the air and stuff?"
"You mean, like... some kind of SUV?"
"Yeah! Of course!"
Re:Could there be a lesson? Not really
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Actually, yes, MS *are* guilty of what I suggest; but they didn't use to be. They used to focus on products and innovation, like sun should; but they've really managed to move from a product/technology driven company (I'm not saying everyone *likes* the technology) to a marketing/bullshit company at just the wrong time.
I associate this with the Steve Ballmer takeover. Terribly energetic guy, but he doesn't give a damn about computers and programs -- just fights and initiatives and buzzwords. Bit like Sun really.
Could there be a lesson for Open Source here?
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Focusing on beating Microsoft in any way possible might actually *not* be as effective as innovating and creating products people want to use.
Sun's anti-MS strategy was quite interesting (e.g. it was quite a bit more innovative than just reimplementing the GUI part of windows on top of a big teetering stack of different projects:D ). I think they fell down by being focused on their enemy, so that all their ideas were "We'll sue X! We'll undermine Y! We'll challenge Z!" If they'd been focused on their market and had ideas like "We'll offer service A! We'll invent a cheaper B!" they would still be relevant.
It's not a goddam troll, it's a true relevant fact about the incidence of CTI. The fact that it doesn't specially favor the./ reading demographic is incidental.
Maybe everyone in this thread has confused 'ano', which takes a noun after it, with 'are', which doesn't. In any case, 'sore' would have been better.
Whenever I hear/read American anime bunnies trying to speak Japanese, I feel ill. But then I hear a few arrogant twit Japanese fashion victims trying to speak English, and suddenly the anime bunnies don't sound so bad.
1 -- emphasise not the fact that you quit, but how long you persevered before quitting
2 -- emphasise that you quit because you were unable to deliver excellence, unable to sasfy customers, etc, rather than that you quit because you were pissed off
The original poster, though, sure came off sounding like the opposite of this.
Also, you are a grammar nerd because IT IS YOUR CALLING! Now go forth and CLEANSE the world of those who would defile it! Those who write non-restrictive clauses that begin with 'that'! Those who say 'different to'! Those who say 'irregardless'!
As a UK resident, I always buy anything of considerable value over the web from the US -- saved a fortune over the years, mostly in lower prices rather than avoiding taxes. I have never fully understood the pattern on what gets taxed as it enters the UK and what doesn't (and of course VAT is only one of the charges those wacky brits will levy on a package if they don't like it).
Anyway, since I regularly make net purchases of almost $1000 or so, does this mean it's now worth while to fly to, say, Estonia (low taxes, few treaties), order from the USA via the web, and then revisit now and then to pick my stuff up and take it into the UK as luggage?
Because that would be a serious waste of the world's resources. You know how many people travel hundreds of miles in the EU every day so they can buy cheap wine and so on outside the UK? Many, many people, many journeys, many cars and boats, much actual wealth being used up as a result of these wacky rules.
But hey, that's what complacent, degenerate societies are for!
1 -- Japanese people (under 30) are at least as bad at writing their own language as Americans.
2 -- It has been easy to type Japanese text for quite some decades. I've never measured but I woudn't be surprised if it takes me less finger movements to type something in Japanese than in English.
3 -- Calligraphy is considered a 'revered art form' by people who happen to revere calligraphy. Regular people send text messages (although the glyph diversity in Japanese text messages is very high).
4 -- Just as with America, you can live your whole life (after school) in Japan without ever having to handwrite fluently, which is damn lucky considering nobody *can* handwrite fluently any more.
In some ways it's cool that Americans have so many superstitions beliefs about Japan, though:)
Hold it, *I* was at school in England in 1978, and in a really old fashioned private school no less, and nobody taught us anything about calligraphy. What the heck school were you at? They did insist that we used fountain pens, though. I printed with them, although they did try and teach me cursive at first.
Having learned a completely different brand of cursive while at school in the USA previously, my resulting handwriting was not a pretty sight. Eventually by the time I was about 20 I had customized it into a nice flamboyant printing script, just in time to give up hand writing forever.
But anyway, where were you at school that taught calligraphy? We only got woodwork.
I know others have written helpful replies but I'll add my particular take anyway.
>I can accept that.NET may be a wonderful >platform, but doesn't it only run on Windows by >design?
No indeed -- only running on windows is a feature of the *Microsoft Implementation* of.NET. MS encourage others to implement it for other platforms -- indeed they did a (kinda puny) toy implementation for *nix themselves. The standard is very well-documented, although it's big.
>I know about mono and it's work to bring.NET to >Linux, but that's incomplete is it not?
Currently, yes... but it's moving. But then, it's a big task. MS are helping a bit, but I think they'd help more if they were smarter.
>Isn't the cross-platform nature of Java the most >compelling reason to use it?
For me and many others, yes. However, there is also a large community that came to Java from a Classical Unix background and who use Java because anything is better than writing large apps in C for X-windows, and another community that uses Java because it's easy and a popular language to publish algorithms and academic code in.
>I know there's something that I'm missing here, >there must be.
Not really. Java is often used because it's cross-platform and because it's popular in Sun-land..NET is often considered more powerful, but is used less because the only good implementation is the win32 one.
If Java ever got.NET's features, I'd use only Java. If.NET ever got Java's portability, I'd use only.NET. Till then, well, the market remains diverse:)
I think the '.NET is XML' thing was worse than the '.NET is web services' thing, but I guess it's just personal taste:) Either way, it's true that many if not most of those who would actually find it useful were scared off by being told it was _not_ a new platform for applications, but just a buzzword thing.
As far as uptake goes, I am finding it slow, but uptake of everything is slow just now. Java was lucky enough to come out during a boom;.NET has come out during a slump. I think developer enthusiasm among those who actually know how to work it is very high, and that's a good sign.
Thank you for your suggestions, i.e. postgresql all the way. I have some doubts about postgresql at the moment, perhaps someone who knows more than me can help me out:
--It seems to be very unixy. I need a db to do exactly the same thing on linux as on win32, but postgresql seems to be more 'compilable on win32 if you really have time' than 'completely cross platform'. Am I wrong?
--It seems to be very quirky -- most people (here) can pick up firebird and use it because it's just like Interbase, but postgresql seems to redo everything from the ground up. \d to list tables? 'Postgres query language'?
--It seems to require considerable knowledge of rdb's. For instance, you remove a foreign key constraint my manually finding and deleting some automatically-generated triggers?? That's going to confuse anyone from a SQL Server background... actually, it's not going to happen at all:[
Anyway, I will continue researching. Perhaps postgreSQL will suddenly seem freindlier after a bit more poking...
Yeah, I know. I am STILL regularly explaining to people what the hell.NET is. Microsoft could have said:
'.NET is a runtime environment and set of libraries for programs written in a bytecode called IL. There are some developer tools that compile languages like C# to IL, and there are some high-level services like ASP.NET implemented in.NET'
What they said was, I believe:
'.NET is all about XML..NET *is* XML'
This is part of what they got for putting Steve Ballmer in charge.
So as a PR thing, yeah, totally mishandled. But for providing solutions, it's very good -- I'd use it over Java whenever possible, and so would several ex-Java people I know.
>Adults don't spank other adults.
Maybe not at *your* parties, baby...
>For some reason, when people hear the word >Mormon, they think of some self-righteous >religious group who means well, but they're >beliefs have warped their views to the point >where Mormons are out of touch with reality.
:) *ahem* silk *ahem*
Hmm... I wonder why they think that...
>Sen. Hatch I know to be a really decent guy
Ahh! So *that's* why they think that.
Actually, if Joseph Smith had had a bit more book learning, that would've helped too
Would you guys laugh if Richard Stallman had scizophrenia?
Hrm, let's see... suppose he had a personality disorder whereby he pontificated loudly about preposterous ideological issues while churning out ever-more-irrelevant bloated text editors... yeah, I'd laugh.
So I'd probably laugh at schizophrenia too.
Incidenally, would it kill all the people who throw the word 'schitzophrenia' around thinking it has something to do with multiple personalities to actually look it up in a dictionary?
I quote:
:)
a speed that 'a "better" vulnerability would have enabled infection of the entire internet in 15 minutes, a "flash worm" or a "Warhol Worm."' I think 'better' to mean 'able to infect across a lot of platforms.'"
I love the way, after creating a chaotic sentence by leading into a quote the wrong way, he then tries to fix it up by writing another sentence that also contains an error. He didn't press the left arrow key a few times to go back and fix the first sentence, he just kept writing
To me, open source software will always be, first and foremost, 'a vast opportunity for South Australia'.
'cut codes'? You mean 'write computer programs'?
Am I getting old? Or have you just been reading wayyy too many cyberpunk novels?
You can split either 2:2 or 3:1 in Windows. 2:2 is default.
:> )
Other than that, the post you were replying to does indeed appear to be FUD (or possibly just written by a non-technical person
>Why would linux kernel hackers be adding tools >like HTTP servers and packet filtering into the >kernel, if it was somehow the UNIX way to keep >them as seperate processes managed by the kernel?
"Hello? Hi, Jim. I'd like you to put everything I have in Microsoft stocks. Just buy at market all day. Oh, and if I'm in any of those little Open Source companies get me the hell out of them. It's just a hunch."
Seriously, they are *not* doing this, are they? I can just picture a whole bunch of 19-year-olds with stuffed penguin toys on their desks going, "Wow, look at the great performance gains we can get just by putting all applications in kernel mode! Take that, Micro$loth!"
I'm trying to imagine the original conversation:
"What if there were a form of transport that was really green and didn't damage the air and stuff?"
"You mean, like... some kind of SUV?"
"Yeah! Of course!"
Actually, yes, MS *are* guilty of what I suggest; but they didn't use to be. They used to focus on products and innovation, like sun should; but they've really managed to move from a product/technology driven company (I'm not saying everyone *likes* the technology) to a marketing/bullshit company at just the wrong time.
I associate this with the Steve Ballmer takeover. Terribly energetic guy, but he doesn't give a damn about computers and programs -- just fights and initiatives and buzzwords. Bit like Sun really.
Focusing on beating Microsoft in any way possible might actually *not* be as effective as innovating and creating products people want to use.
Sun's anti-MS strategy was quite interesting (e.g. it was quite a bit more innovative than just reimplementing the GUI part of windows on top of a big teetering stack of different projects
It's not a goddam troll, it's a true relevant fact about the incidence of CTI. The fact that it doesn't specially favor the
Maybe everyone in this thread has confused 'ano', which takes a noun after it, with 'are', which doesn't. In any case, 'sore' would have been better.
Whenever I hear/read American anime bunnies trying to speak Japanese, I feel ill. But then I hear a few arrogant twit Japanese fashion victims trying to speak English, and suddenly the anime bunnies don't sound so bad.
I think the elements of good spin here would be:
1 -- emphasise not the fact that you quit, but how long you persevered before quitting
2 -- emphasise that you quit because you were unable to deliver excellence, unable to sasfy customers, etc, rather than that you quit because you were pissed off
The original poster, though, sure came off sounding like the opposite of this.
Also, you are a grammar nerd because IT IS YOUR CALLING! Now go forth and CLEANSE the world of those who would defile it! Those who write non-restrictive clauses that begin with 'that'! Those who say 'different to'! Those who say 'irregardless'!
So, let's see...
"Why did you suddenly walk out en masse?"
"It had to be done, customers were depending on it, and we collectively stepped up to the plate for the good of the company."
A very interesting ploy, Mr. Chewie... or, if I may use your real name... TONY BLAIR!
As a UK resident, I always buy anything of considerable value over the web from the US -- saved a fortune over the years, mostly in lower prices rather than avoiding taxes. I have never fully understood the pattern on what gets taxed as it enters the UK and what doesn't (and of course VAT is only one of the charges those wacky brits will levy on a package if they don't like it).
Anyway, since I regularly make net purchases of almost $1000 or so, does this mean it's now worth while to fly to, say, Estonia (low taxes, few treaties), order from the USA via the web, and then revisit now and then to pick my stuff up and take it into the UK as luggage?
Because that would be a serious waste of the world's resources. You know how many people travel hundreds of miles in the EU every day so they can buy cheap wine and so on outside the UK? Many, many people, many journeys, many cars and boats, much actual wealth being used up as a result of these wacky rules.
But hey, that's what complacent, degenerate societies are for!
"So why did you leave your last company?"
"They were treating me badly so I just walked out."
"How were they treating you?"
"They wanted more work hours and more time on call, because the company was going through some tough times."
"That was unacceptable to you? You weren't able to negotiate a better position?"
"Huh? We didn't do any negotiation, we just got together and all walked out."
"It must have been challenging to manage the changeover to a new team."
"Nah, we just all walked out together! Maximum disruption!"
"I see. Well, thank you for your time."
1 -- Japanese people (under 30) are at least as bad at writing their own language as Americans.
2 -- It has been easy to type Japanese text for quite some decades. I've never measured but I woudn't be surprised if it takes me less finger movements to type something in Japanese than in English.
3 -- Calligraphy is considered a 'revered art form' by people who happen to revere calligraphy. Regular people send text messages (although the glyph diversity in Japanese text messages is very high).
4 -- Just as with America, you can live your whole life (after school) in Japan without ever having to handwrite fluently, which is damn lucky considering nobody *can* handwrite fluently any more.
In some ways it's cool that Americans have so many superstitions beliefs about Japan, though
Hold it, *I* was at school in England in 1978, and in a really old fashioned private school no less, and nobody taught us anything about calligraphy. What the heck school were you at? They did insist that we used fountain pens, though. I printed with them, although they did try and teach me cursive at first.
Having learned a completely different brand of cursive while at school in the USA previously, my resulting handwriting was not a pretty sight. Eventually by the time I was about 20 I had customized it into a nice flamboyant printing script, just in time to give up hand writing forever.
But anyway, where were you at school that taught calligraphy? We only got woodwork.
I know others have written helpful replies but I'll add my particular take anyway.
.NET may be a wonderful
.NET. MS encourage others to implement it for other platforms -- indeed they did a (kinda puny) toy implementation for *nix themselves. The standard is very well-documented, although it's big.
.NET to
.NET is often considered more powerful, but is used less because the only good implementation is the win32 one.
.NET's features, I'd use only Java. If .NET ever got Java's portability, I'd use only .NET. Till then, well, the market remains diverse :)
>I can accept that
>platform, but doesn't it only run on Windows by
>design?
No indeed -- only running on windows is a feature of the *Microsoft Implementation* of
>I know about mono and it's work to bring
>Linux, but that's incomplete is it not?
Currently, yes... but it's moving. But then, it's a big task. MS are helping a bit, but I think they'd help more if they were smarter.
>Isn't the cross-platform nature of Java the most
>compelling reason to use it?
For me and many others, yes. However, there is also a large community that came to Java from a Classical Unix background and who use Java because anything is better than writing large apps in C for X-windows, and another community that uses Java because it's easy and a popular language to publish algorithms and academic code in.
>I know there's something that I'm missing here,
>there must be.
Not really. Java is often used because it's cross-platform and because it's popular in Sun-land.
If Java ever got
Because --
er...
darn... I forgot...
I think the '.NET is XML' thing was worse than the '.NET is web services' thing, but I guess it's just personal taste :) Either way, it's true that many if not most of those who would actually find it useful were scared off by being told it was _not_ a new platform for applications, but just a buzzword thing.
.NET has come out during a slump. I think developer enthusiasm among those who actually know how to work it is very high, and that's a good sign.
As far as uptake goes, I am finding it slow, but uptake of everything is slow just now. Java was lucky enough to come out during a boom;
Thank you for your suggestions, i.e. postgresql all the way. I have some doubts about postgresql at the moment, perhaps someone who knows more than me can help me out:
--It seems to be very unixy. I need a db to do exactly the same thing on linux as on win32, but postgresql seems to be more 'compilable on win32 if you really have time' than 'completely cross platform'. Am I wrong?
--It seems to be very quirky -- most people (here) can pick up firebird and use it because it's just like Interbase, but postgresql seems to redo everything from the ground up. \d to list tables? 'Postgres query language'?
--It seems to require considerable knowledge of rdb's. For instance, you remove a foreign key constraint my manually finding and deleting some automatically-generated triggers?? That's going to confuse anyone from a SQL Server background... actually, it's not going to happen at all
Anyway, I will continue researching. Perhaps postgreSQL will suddenly seem freindlier after a bit more poking...
Yeah, I know. I am STILL regularly explaining to people what the hell .NET is. Microsoft could have said:
.NET'
.NET *is* XML'
'.NET is a runtime environment and set of libraries for programs written in a bytecode called IL. There are some developer tools that compile languages like C# to IL, and there are some high-level services like ASP.NET implemented in
What they said was, I believe:
'.NET is all about XML.
This is part of what they got for putting Steve Ballmer in charge.
So as a PR thing, yeah, totally mishandled. But for providing solutions, it's very good -- I'd use it over Java whenever possible, and so would several ex-Java people I know.
The new licensing is part of MS's 'Make Sure People Stop Using Our Stuff' strategy.
This strategy will, it is hoped, cut costs by up to 100%.