"The Greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing mankind that he did not exist"
or that he had died
Pure & simple...the lion goes too quietly and too soon. They will be back with their lawsuits and their outdated methods. Only this time they will have the Industry behind them with machines built encoded with DRM tech. Inherent to the machine at the lowest levels, there will be no way to run your own system without authorization from all of the MFR's and in turn the RIAA, MPAA, and the KMAAYLC (Kiss my ass association you lousy consumer!).
We have received information that an individual has utilized the above-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer downloads of the above-mentioned work via the IRC network.
It would appear they aren't looking at Kazaa or Gnutella traffic, but rather IRC Net. The hand widens and now they are apparently trying to cover ALL forms of xfer. Whats next? Usenet?
I would be prompted to correct that statement...in that You must be on drugs. Obviously, you must be either a FreeBSD advocate, or someone who has had A (meaning ONE) bad experience with Linux.
I would have to state that ANY file system, if dismounted improperly, would have issues at one point or another. I would also state that ANY OS will crash at one time or another. The beauty of Linux, from my perspective anyhow, is that it withstands these glitches with vary little problems. Lets start with the Windows File system. FAT32 is a hack from the original format, and is not recommended for use anymore. NTFS, while rather robust in its overall operation, CANNOT handle more than one improper shutdown without requiring massive amounts of repair and/or formatting. EXT2FS can tolerate MANY improper shutdowns on the systems I have run it on, for many reasons but mostly due to insuffucient power supply.
NTFS indexing is the worst offender of them all as it not only requires a service to be running (which costs time and effort on the system side) but if the index corrupts, you have lost the data on the drive. Period.
This has been my experience, your mileage may vary.
I am glad you think this is something NEW to me. No, it is not, as I am not quite fifty, but I definitely remember the 60's, 70's and 80's.Probably from a different perspective than you could even imagine. I have cared since that time, I have served what I thought to be the America of my Youth, only to have it trashed and these aged politoco's and greed mongering Baby Boomers (ME generation indeed) try and limit what MY Kids will be capable of doing. I have sent the letters, the faxes, the petitions to my representatives in Congress and the Senate stating my opinion. It has not seemed to make a dent, yet I still persevere because Rights ARE being trampled.
I read how the DRM is bad, and I agree. As a customer, I would not ever purchase something that limited MY USE of it.
The BSA is an extortion racket of the worst kind, not so much as what they purport to do, but rather in their methods of DOING It. The same can be said about the RIAA, MPAA, and even so much in the aspect of DRM.
Which brings me to my question: When did I become a CONSUMER as opposed to a CUSTOMER?????
I have seen the trend in the computer and electronics industry from as far back as 1995 to state that I, as a user of a certain product, no longer have the right to Support of that product when it messes up, that I no longer have the right to ALTER the product that I PURCHASED with my Hard Earned CASH to make it NOT prevent me from using it in a way that prevents it from messing up other items, and NOW, the fact that if I DO alter, fix, repair, modify or explore that product that I as a CUSTOMER bought, I can and will be prosecuted.
This is not the America I grew up in. This is not the America I swore to defend.
Yes, I know....Welcome to Corporate America. Where wars are fought not to win, but only to deplete the ever standing supply.
The mantra has gone from "This we'll defend" to "You better BUY it NOW!!"
Funny you should mention it, but my cheap camera will not in any way shape or form work with WinXP or Win2k. It will work with ME. Maybe it will work with 98.
It is a USB device, and there was support directly in the Red Hat 8.0 Camera program that came with the ISO I downloaded for RH8. Same with my scanner. no support under WinXP, however it does work under Win2k. After hassling with drivers and conflicts. It is also USB. These are low cost (under $100 each) items, however they aren't supported as the companies apparently disappeared. But, I found support for them in Linux.
My CDR-Burners? Well, they took some doing, as I had to edit a script file to support BOTH burners in this machine at the same time, however that is more than I can say for WinXP.
Wish I could get a refund for the purchase of the WinXP Software, but it does keep the door open really nicely...
Yeah, I was happy with my self, my position in life, my wages, my job, and the relationship I was in.
Twas the scariest 5 minutes of my life.
To quote something I agree with about life and humans in general:
"Did you know that the first Matrix
was designed to be a perfect human
world? Where none suffered, where
everyone would be happy. It was a
disaster. No one would accept the
program. Entire crops were lost.
Some believed we lacked the
programming language to describe
your perfect world. But I believe
that, as a species, human beings
define their reality through
suffering and misery."
If it makes you happy or gives you satisfaction in some way, it is probably wrong, or dangerous, or illegal...Or it soon will be.
Sorry, You might want to check your sources, as NO virus to knowledge has nor will be able to destroy a Hard Drive or BIOS on the physical level. Yes, it may rewrite sectors and the like, but no damage to the drive other than wear and tear:
Your lesson on OpaServ
this review of Wiley's new Red Hat Linux 8 Bible, writing "I've never been much of a fan of large computer books and, to be honest, this one hasn't done much to change my opinion. These large books often seem a little confused about their target audience.
My question is Why did You bother doing a review of it? Why did you even buy it? It must have appealed to you on some level? I myself enjoy a GOOD big book, as it makes me feel like I am getting my money's worth in the purchase, especially if it goes into the detail and expanse that your review later stated it did.
I would have to also ask if there was any coverage of SAMBA and the "new" method it uses to set itself up? That alone to me would be worth the price of admission, especially because it applies to Red Hat 8.0. The "MAN" pages and all of the help online were useless when I was setting this up. I was able to get it to work, but in no way/shape/form as to how it was instructed by the outdated information. If this book covers those specific topics that directly apply to the Version of software I am running, as opposed to the older versions, then it is definitely well received regardless of the breadth of the book itself.
In fact, I will now have to look for this little gem on my next outing to Powells or Borders.....
Does this mean the clipboard works across all programs?!?
Because that is the one thing I really wish worked properly in Linux. If nothing else, MS has the clipboard available throughout ALL programs I run. If I select something and hit CTRL-C, in Windows I KNOW it will be available to me when I open (Insert favorite application here) for a CTRL-V.
Is the clipboard built into the kernel of Windows? If so, maybe thats an option Linux needs to copy?
SOYO makes a fine board. Nothing integrated but the serial/parallel/usb/hdd controllers. I can get models with the video and LAN and sound, but I choose not to. Shuttle makes a few also. ABit does, as I look towards MWave catalogs.
Yes, Most come with the built on sound, but I turn that option off in the BIOS (the same way I can turn off the serial/parallel/hdd controllers also) and it doesn't affect any operation of the system, because as far as everything is concerned, when it doesn't show up on boot, it is not there.
My question has to be...did you even attempt to look before you asked? You stated that you needed "high-end" boards, however the research I have done seems to illustrate that all the "low cost" systems and motherboards use this method, and the more expensive motherboards don't integrate a whole lot other than the standard that has been in place for years now.
But...I was reading the 'Free For All' book online and came across this issue of what AT&T wanted to do about the licensing of BSD....I think I see a pattern here....:
To make matters worse, AT&T often wanted the BSD team to include features that would force all the BSD users to buy a newer, more
expensive license from AT&T. In addition, license verification was never a quick or easy task. McKusick says, "We had a person whose fulltime
job was to keep the AT&T licensing person happy."
In the end, he concludes, "They paid us next to nothing and got a huge windfall."
I would say you are overlooking the one single fact that has been brought up time and again in this forum so far (so mod me down for Redundancy):
You get your 'bonus' everytime you get paid.
You get your 'bonus' everytime you can take a day off from work because you are sick...knowing you can just chalk it up to 'sick leave' and still get paid for that day
Your bonus is not having to worry about anything breaking because you don't know where the money would come from to fix it, or when it would even BE fixed.
Your 'bonus' is knowing that on Monday, you get to go to work.
I will trade you in a minute for your bonus...if it comes with a real job.
Oops....just another wannabe trying to spout rhetoric that any moderate user would already know.
And for Windows OS's only, from what I read on downloading SiSoft (or do they have a Linux version I don't know about?)
Of course when I AskSlashdot about whether or not people have written to the major gaming magazines about covering the Linux Gaming world, it was denied to even be asked...hmmmm
Has anyone thought that if they were to do as I have and WRITE the major gaming magazines and manufacturers to include Linux as a platform for coverage that they may see the interest is out there?
is WHAT I DO. I dislike ads, I dislike advertisement. If I want to purchase something, I WILL do the research on it, check for the lowest prices, and purchase it. Ads have little or NO influence on my purchasing decisions.
Maybe someone ought to send that "Webmaster" of that site a SPELL CHECKING Ad so they might be able to purchase one and put it to USE.
The same goes for computer games. Gaming used to be the number one application for converting shiny new computers into wheezing husks. But even the latest pixel-pushing titles haven't kept up with the advances Silicon Valley has made in terms of processor speed.
They aren't playing ANY of the latest games. Unreal 2k3 stutters on a 2GHZ with 512MB and a GeForce3 card.
NBA 2k3 needs lower resolution to flow smoothly through some of the animations and events occurring on the "floor"
And I just bought 2 1700 AMD XP Athlons to UPGRADE my 1Ghz systems.
Maybe Mom & Pop don't need to upgrade, but they also don't use the computer for the tool it was designed to be.
People are criticizing the method and means. I have read posts that say "It isn't 'Real World' experience" or "You haven't taken into account the SUPPORT" and several other attacks at what, IMHO, is an OUTSTANDING effort.
To those that say it won't provide "Real World" experience, I argue that NOTHING I work with today existed 4 years ago, much less 8-10 years ago. Yet I have worked with computers for 30 + years. If I had not had the opportunity to use one as a kid, then I would probably not have wanted to make a flounding career out of this obsessive hobby.
To those that say support will be an additional cost...what better way to teach ALL aspects of hardware and software but to instruct the kids on how to maintain the machines themselves
When all you people bitching about your jobs finally burn out.....someone like me will be there to take the job and excel at it. So...go ahead and quit...get out of the field and sell ice cream or something (hey open a coffee chain...I hear they are going places) so I can go back to earning a decent wage and doing a decent day's worth of work.
The original Patent was filed in 1993.
However, it would appear that it was directed towards travel and credit applications (i.e. Travel agent bookings and Credit applications) rather than geared towards an online "sale" of actual merchandise. The Patent can be found here, and several interesting items of note:
RIOR APPLICATIONS
This is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 08/116,654 filed Sep. 3, 1993, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,309,355 which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 07/396,283 filed Aug. 21, 1989, which is a continuation-in-part of abandoned application Ser. No. 07/152,973 filed Feb. 8, 1988, which is a continuation-in-part of abandoned application Ser. No. 822,115 filed Jan. 24, 1986, which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 613,525 filed May 24, 1984, now U.S. Pat. No. 4,567,359.
This is also a continuation-in-part of abandoned application Ser. No. 08/096,610 filed Jul. 23, 1993, which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 07/752,026 filed Aug. 29, 1991 which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 168,856 filed Mar. 16, 1988, which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 822,115 filed Jan. 24, 1986 which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 613,525, filed May 24, 1984, now U.S. Pat. No. 4,567,359.
This is also a continuation of the combination of the above-cited applications Ser. No. 08/116,654 filed Sep. 3, 1993 and Ser. No. 08/096,610 filed Jul. 23, 1993.
As it appears this has been trying to be processed for quite sometime before it was accepted, and also relies on several prior works.
What is it about this industry that people have to reinvent old ideas that did not work when they were brought out originally? The concept of paying for what you use is not a new idea.
Heck, it is HOW THE INDUSTRY BEGAN. Colleges used to pay to use the computer, and you had to schedule time and code by entering in the values and then execute the program. If you were lucky, you could use this nifty device called a "Punch Card"
None of this is NEW. It is all just a rehash of ways to make money when the only money to be made is with old ideas. Lets start charging people for time again...that will boost our revenue!
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or that he had died
Pure & simple...the lion goes too quietly and too soon. They will be back with their lawsuits and their outdated methods. Only this time they will have the Industry behind them with machines built encoded with DRM tech. Inherent to the machine at the lowest levels, there will be no way to run your own system without authorization from all of the MFR's and in turn the RIAA, MPAA, and the KMAAYLC (Kiss my ass association you lousy consumer!).
Time to pick up a guitar and make my own...We have received information that an individual has utilized the above-referenced IP address at the noted date and time to offer downloads of the above-mentioned work via the IRC network.
It would appear they aren't looking at Kazaa or Gnutella traffic, but rather IRC Net. The hand widens and now they are apparently trying to cover ALL forms of xfer. Whats next? Usenet?
# HTML support
# URI parsing that's RFC-2396 compliant
# Cookies support, RFC-2965 compliant
# XHTML 1.0 rendering
# Plain text rendering
# Image formats support: PNG, JPEG and GIF (no animated GIFs)
# HTTP 1.x Compliance
RFC / W3C STANDARDSI would have to state that ANY file system, if dismounted improperly, would have issues at one point or another. I would also state that ANY OS will crash at one time or another. The beauty of Linux, from my perspective anyhow, is that it withstands these glitches with vary little problems. Lets start with the Windows File system. FAT32 is a hack from the original format, and is not recommended for use anymore. NTFS, while rather robust in its overall operation, CANNOT handle more than one improper shutdown without requiring massive amounts of repair and/or formatting. EXT2FS can tolerate MANY improper shutdowns on the systems I have run it on, for many reasons but mostly due to insuffucient power supply.
NTFS indexing is the worst offender of them all as it not only requires a service to be running (which costs time and effort on the system side) but if the index corrupts, you have lost the data on the drive. Period.
This has been my experience, your mileage may vary.
I doubt you can say the same.
I read how the DRM is bad, and I agree. As a customer, I would not ever purchase something that limited MY USE of it.
The BSA is an extortion racket of the worst kind, not so much as what they purport to do, but rather in their methods of DOING It. The same can be said about the RIAA, MPAA, and even so much in the aspect of DRM.
Which brings me to my question: When did I become a CONSUMER as opposed to a CUSTOMER?????
I have seen the trend in the computer and electronics industry from as far back as 1995 to state that I, as a user of a certain product, no longer have the right to Support of that product when it messes up, that I no longer have the right to ALTER the product that I PURCHASED with my Hard Earned CASH to make it NOT prevent me from using it in a way that prevents it from messing up other items, and NOW, the fact that if I DO alter, fix, repair, modify or explore that product that I as a CUSTOMER bought, I can and will be prosecuted.
This is not the America I grew up in. This is not the America I swore to defend.
Yes, I know....Welcome to Corporate America. Where wars are fought not to win, but only to deplete the ever standing supply.
The mantra has gone from "This we'll defend" to "You better BUY it NOW!!"
It is a USB device, and there was support directly in the Red Hat 8.0 Camera program that came with the ISO I downloaded for RH8. Same with my scanner. no support under WinXP, however it does work under Win2k. After hassling with drivers and conflicts. It is also USB. These are low cost (under $100 each) items, however they aren't supported as the companies apparently disappeared. But, I found support for them in Linux.
My CDR-Burners? Well, they took some doing, as I had to edit a script file to support BOTH burners in this machine at the same time, however that is more than I can say for WinXP.Wish I could get a refund for the purchase of the WinXP Software, but it does keep the door open really nicely...
Happiness?
Yeah, I was happy with my self, my position in life, my wages, my job, and the relationship I was in.
Twas the scariest 5 minutes of my life.
To quote something I agree with about life and humans in general:
"Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world? Where none suffered, where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world. But I believe that, as a species, human beings define their reality through suffering and misery."
If it makes you happy or gives you satisfaction in some way, it is probably wrong, or dangerous, or illegal...Or it soon will be.Sorry, You might want to check your sources, as NO virus to knowledge has nor will be able to destroy a Hard Drive or BIOS on the physical level. Yes, it may rewrite sectors and the like, but no damage to the drive other than wear and tear: Your lesson on OpaServ
WAR is Peace FREEDOM is Slavery IGNORANCE is Strength
this review of Wiley's new Red Hat Linux 8 Bible, writing "I've never been much of a fan of large computer books and, to be honest, this one hasn't done much to change my opinion. These large books often seem a little confused about their target audience.
My question is Why did You bother doing a review of it? Why did you even buy it? It must have appealed to you on some level? I myself enjoy a GOOD big book, as it makes me feel like I am getting my money's worth in the purchase, especially if it goes into the detail and expanse that your review later stated it did.I would have to also ask if there was any coverage of SAMBA and the "new" method it uses to set itself up? That alone to me would be worth the price of admission, especially because it applies to Red Hat 8.0. The "MAN" pages and all of the help online were useless when I was setting this up. I was able to get it to work, but in no way/shape/form as to how it was instructed by the outdated information. If this book covers those specific topics that directly apply to the Version of software I am running, as opposed to the older versions, then it is definitely well received regardless of the breadth of the book itself.
In fact, I will now have to look for this little gem on my next outing to Powells or Borders.....
Does this mean the clipboard works across all programs?!?
Because that is the one thing I really wish worked properly in Linux. If nothing else, MS has the clipboard available throughout ALL programs I run. If I select something and hit CTRL-C, in Windows I KNOW it will be available to me when I open (Insert favorite application here) for a CTRL-V.
Is the clipboard built into the kernel of Windows? If so, maybe thats an option Linux needs to copy?
And don't even get me started on printing...
Yes, Most come with the built on sound, but I turn that option off in the BIOS (the same way I can turn off the serial/parallel/hdd controllers also) and it doesn't affect any operation of the system, because as far as everything is concerned, when it doesn't show up on boot, it is not there.
My question has to be...did you even attempt to look before you asked? You stated that you needed "high-end" boards, however the research I have done seems to illustrate that all the "low cost" systems and motherboards use this method, and the more expensive motherboards don't integrate a whole lot other than the standard that has been in place for years now.
The Big ten
Without the flash BS intro. (which did not come up in my Mozilla Browser)To make matters worse, AT&T often wanted the BSD team to include features that would force all the BSD users to buy a newer, more expensive license from AT&T. In addition, license verification was never a quick or easy task. McKusick says, "We had a person whose fulltime job was to keep the AT&T licensing person happy." In the end, he concludes, "They paid us next to nothing and got a huge windfall."
HmmmmmmI would say you are overlooking the one single fact that has been brought up time and again in this forum so far (so mod me down for Redundancy):
You get your 'bonus' everytime you get paid.
You get your 'bonus' everytime you can take a day off from work because you are sick...knowing you can just chalk it up to 'sick leave' and still get paid for that day
Your bonus is not having to worry about anything breaking because you don't know where the money would come from to fix it, or when it would even BE fixed.
Your 'bonus' is knowing that on Monday, you get to go to work.
I will trade you in a minute for your bonus...if it comes with a real job.
And for Windows OS's only, from what I read on downloading SiSoft (or do they have a Linux version I don't know about?)
Of course when I AskSlashdot about whether or not people have written to the major gaming magazines about covering the Linux Gaming world, it was denied to even be asked...hmmmm
Has anyone thought that if they were to do as I have and WRITE the major gaming magazines and manufacturers to include Linux as a platform for coverage that they may see the interest is out there?
TINNAPB
For This Is Not Named After Phoenix BIOSMaybe someone ought to send that "Webmaster" of that site a SPELL CHECKING Ad so they might be able to purchase one and put it to USE.
They aren't playing ANY of the latest games. Unreal 2k3 stutters on a 2GHZ with 512MB and a GeForce3 card.
NBA 2k3 needs lower resolution to flow smoothly through some of the animations and events occurring on the "floor"
And I just bought 2 1700 AMD XP Athlons to UPGRADE my 1Ghz systems.
Maybe Mom & Pop don't need to upgrade, but they also don't use the computer for the tool it was designed to be.
People are criticizing the method and means. I have read posts that say "It isn't 'Real World' experience" or "You haven't taken into account the SUPPORT" and several other attacks at what, IMHO, is an OUTSTANDING effort.
To those that say it won't provide "Real World" experience, I argue that NOTHING I work with today existed 4 years ago, much less 8-10 years ago. Yet I have worked with computers for 30 + years. If I had not had the opportunity to use one as a kid, then I would probably not have wanted to make a flounding career out of this obsessive hobby.
To those that say support will be an additional cost...what better way to teach ALL aspects of hardware and software but to instruct the kids on how to maintain the machines themselves
When all you people bitching about your jobs finally burn out.....someone like me will be there to take the job and excel at it. So...go ahead and quit...get out of the field and sell ice cream or something (hey open a coffee chain...I hear they are going places) so I can go back to earning a decent wage and doing a decent day's worth of work.
RIOR APPLICATIONS This is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 08/116,654 filed Sep. 3, 1993, now U.S. Pat. No. 5,309,355 which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 07/396,283 filed Aug. 21, 1989, which is a continuation-in-part of abandoned application Ser. No. 07/152,973 filed Feb. 8, 1988, which is a continuation-in-part of abandoned application Ser. No. 822,115 filed Jan. 24, 1986, which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 613,525 filed May 24, 1984, now U.S. Pat. No. 4,567,359. This is also a continuation-in-part of abandoned application Ser. No. 08/096,610 filed Jul. 23, 1993, which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 07/752,026 filed Aug. 29, 1991 which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 168,856 filed Mar. 16, 1988, which is a continuation of abandoned application Ser. No. 822,115 filed Jan. 24, 1986 which is a continuation-in-part of application Ser. No. 613,525, filed May 24, 1984, now U.S. Pat. No. 4,567,359. This is also a continuation of the combination of the above-cited applications Ser. No. 08/116,654 filed Sep. 3, 1993 and Ser. No. 08/096,610 filed Jul. 23, 1993.
As it appears this has been trying to be processed for quite sometime before it was accepted, and also relies on several prior works.
What is it about this industry that people have to reinvent old ideas that did not work when they were brought out originally? The concept of paying for what you use is not a new idea.
Heck, it is HOW THE INDUSTRY BEGAN. Colleges used to pay to use the computer, and you had to schedule time and code by entering in the values and then execute the program. If you were lucky, you could use this nifty device called a "Punch Card"
None of this is NEW. It is all just a rehash of ways to make money when the only money to be made is with old ideas. Lets start charging people for time again...that will boost our revenue!
It sucked then...so it will suck now....
Half.Com