If you want to see where Rasmus really stands, ask him how he feels about the idea of PHP ever supporting connection pooling as I did when he came to Portland. He got very anxious, irritated and flush in the face as he spouted off lots or fantasy scenarios that made no sense whatsoever.
I said, all the bigger full featured RDBM's were built on the concept and it is fundamentally accepted as the way to scale out. Again he went off, getting more and more irritated.
Just like the importance of supporting Unicode natively, and dozens of other things in PHP, connection pooling will be a distant after thought that will come a day late and a dollar short. My prediction is PHP10.
Seems as though if more web based applications replace current desktop apps, we may come full circle and go from the 500M+ installs back to more efficiently constructed source. One can dream.
Please define a "serious web application". Have you ever written one? Have you ever written one in PHP and J2EE. Do you have a frame of reference for you statements??
Recently I installed a dual boot system on a new laptop, with debian and kde on the linux side. After numerous issues trying to get all the hardware working (wifi,video), I realized something. First, this is a pain in the ass and second, I can have my cake and eat it to. The same thing applies to this discussion.
If you want it both ways, it's already possible. It's called VMWare. Sure its not free, but neither are these precious win32 apps we can't seem to live without.
Now I have the best of all worlds, and with the speed of modern machines I find this to be a very nicely performing solution.
If you follow the link on the ad banner on the http://www.dhmo.org/ website, it takes you to http://www.kleinbottle.com/
These people have all been smoking crack from giant pipes made by klienbottle!! Check out that doper holding the huge pipe.
Please stop posting these farcical threads on global warming! If you want to bitch about changes in the weather, look at the BIG picture, not your narrow slice of time!
Getting to hot outside? Blame it on global warming!
Getting to cold outside? Blame it on global warming!
Ice breaking apart up north? Blame it on global warming!
Car won't start? Blame in on global warming!
Bush's wife won't sleep with him? Blame it on global warming!
ps. Thank you shaboz melik muhummed achmed jabbar, for your hilarious pandering that makes me laugh until this very day!
Actually.. advertising doesn't work. They are feeding a line of bull to people who know better. You can't brain wash this target audience. We have been burned before ala MS.
Everybody knows that in the server market, MS can't compete. What they had better realize is that the end is near. I and several of my computer literate friends have all recently started migrating to different flavors of linux as desktop machines.
The thought of.NET and my machine becoming essentially a terminal on a "pay to play" network is truly frightning. The complete arrogance that MS has begun to show, despite there battles with the justice system, should really be an eye opener to most of us passive types.
When Win2k gets shelved, there will be no windows OS on any of my machines. You want to talk about being painted into a corner!! Oh sorry, no VNC for you. You like your corner? Its over 70 times more stable than before! Blue screen, blue screen, blue screen. It's time to take that paint bucket and throw it at bill just like a coconut creme pie.
Even if they do try to ban it because it would turn all communications industrys upside down making there current infrastructure worth much less (or worthless in some cases). The fact remains, you can't stop technology. If development stops here, it picks right up in 5 other countries. I would be watching communications companies you own stock in very closely. Finger on the trigger for sure.
'make Americans more lazy'
umm.. what the hell are you talking about? The American workforce puts in longer hours and takes fewer vacation days than any country in the world. This is not opinion, this is fact!
Secondly, what does this device have to do with going 25 feet to the bathroom? Do you ride your bike to the bathroom? Do you drive your car to the bathroom?
Your post reminds me of a performance given by Steve Martin in the Jerk.
"The first three days felt like four days and five hours, then the next day felt like three days then the next day I had a dentist appointment so that just felt like one day, then the next day we went to the beach and that felt like THREE WHOLE DAYS! God, you look so peaceful. You almost look dead."
or something to that effect.
but back on topic.. Futurama is great, sometimes funnier than the Simpsons, but not always. I think it has alot of the same humor with a slightly more adult/snide/sarcastic punch to it. Which is not to say better, but just different, and equally good at times. The Family guy is the extreme end of this type of humor. I'd watch it more if it was on when I watch TV...ie Simpsons/Futurama time...
HEY FOX!!! Swap timeslots with King of the Hill and Family Guy!!
You make a good point. But I would tend to believe that when fighting a loosing battle, you have to start somewhere, and this seems like the most likely place to start in order to have any kind of success whatsoever in this matter. Besides, hopefully down the road, the insulation factor will become just an added bonus rather than a outright crutch as software developers decide to capitolize on the linux market (which hopefully will have grown as a result of initial offering) and provide full linux ports of there software. Hopefully taking better advantage of system resources more directly.
But I really suspect that if it starts to gain any kind of popularity at all somebody will release a compeating api for the linux platform. Stranger things have happend.
Its just like politicians to do something bogus like this, using a situation like sept11 to put a pile of crap like this into legislation in the name of anti-terrorism. How many references to anti-terrorism are on the treaty? It's all about fairly vauge descriptions of what is to be considered a crime..primarily "hacking" of all kinds. Did I miss something here? What does hacking have to do with sept11? What does hacking have to do with terrorism from the middle east? YOU CAN'T ENFORCE THESE LAWS ON TERRORISTS!!! Just like this isn't a criminal issue..this is a 'war against terrorist/the evil do'ers'
This is all about.. ok, we need to stop terrorist hackers with stiff laws and punishments. These laws and punishments are not designed for our terrorist enemies, they are designed for our own citizens. Who is the enemy here??? It's pretty obvious that they didn't give a DAMN what the citizens of this so called democratic (i know...its really a republic) nation thought.
I love my country, but I fear my government. Now more than ever.
They don't want competition..pure and simple. Nothing new there. Whether it be in spamming or client software.
Due to the Microsoft anti-spam initiative, customers are restricted to use their mail services. Therefore, POP3 service is only available when using MSN Explorer, Microsoft Outlook, or Microsoft Outlook Express.
in other words... "ONLY WE CAN DO THE SPAMMING AROUND HERE! and.... (in an almost inaudible voice) youmustuseoursoftware.
What they may or may not do is beside the point. The fact that this happens is illustration that something is very wrong and needs to be corrected. You can't base your businesses success on what IBM MAY or MAY NOT do! That my friend is insanity!
FYI- Some businesses are built entirely on this model and this is a huge threat to there livelyhood.
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If you want to see where Rasmus really stands, ask him how he feels about the idea of PHP ever supporting connection pooling as I did when he came to Portland. He got very anxious, irritated and flush in the face as he spouted off lots or fantasy scenarios that made no sense whatsoever.
I said, all the bigger full featured RDBM's were built on the concept and it is fundamentally accepted as the way to scale out. Again he went off, getting more and more irritated.
Just like the importance of supporting Unicode natively, and dozens of other things in PHP, connection pooling will be a distant after thought that will come a day late and a dollar short. My prediction is PHP10.
Seems as though if more web based applications replace current desktop apps, we may come full circle and go from the 500M+ installs back to more efficiently constructed source. One can dream.
They took ur job!!!!... turk'ErJOOOOB!!!!
Now lets discuss all the cons of Java, and you find that many of them are strengths of PHP.
Please define a "serious web application". Have you ever written one? Have you ever written one in PHP and J2EE. Do you have a frame of reference for you statements??
Recently I installed a dual boot system on a new laptop, with debian and kde on the linux side. After numerous issues trying to get all the hardware working (wifi,video), I realized something. First, this is a pain in the ass and second, I can have my cake and eat it to. The same thing applies to this discussion. If you want it both ways, it's already possible. It's called VMWare. Sure its not free, but neither are these precious win32 apps we can't seem to live without. Now I have the best of all worlds, and with the speed of modern machines I find this to be a very nicely performing solution.
If you follow the link on the ad banner on the http://www.dhmo.org/ website, it takes you to http://www.kleinbottle.com/ These people have all been smoking crack from giant pipes made by klienbottle!! Check out that doper holding the huge pipe.
I've got 14 words for you...
developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers, developers
http://www.ntk.net/media/developers.mpg
Everybody knows that we don't have to worry about depleating oil wells any longer. Now that the world has the Jasker this is a moot point.
Hey.. did I mention that drunk Irishmen are a renewable resource as well?
mod me neyah.
the funniest part about this thread is that tomshardware is getting slashdotted!
Please stop posting these farcical threads on global warming! If you want to bitch about changes in the weather, look at the BIG picture, not your narrow slice of time!
Getting to hot outside? Blame it on global warming!
Getting to cold outside? Blame it on global warming!
Ice breaking apart up north? Blame it on global warming!
Car won't start? Blame in on global warming!
Bush's wife won't sleep with him? Blame it on global warming!
ps. Thank you shaboz melik muhummed achmed jabbar, for your hilarious pandering that makes me laugh until this very day!
Actually.. advertising doesn't work. They are feeding a line of bull to people who know better. You can't brain wash this target audience. We have been burned before ala MS.
hahahahahahhahahh
that is funny as hell! I think this really illustrates that they infact DON'T "have the way out"
hahahaha
Your sig....
Are you high?? Or just joking?
Do I really need to explain the difference?
FUCK MICROSOFT!
.NET and my machine becoming essentially a terminal on a "pay to play" network is truly frightning. The complete arrogance that MS has begun to show, despite there battles with the justice system, should really be an eye opener to most of us passive types.
Everybody knows that in the server market, MS can't compete. What they had better realize is that the end is near. I and several of my computer literate friends have all recently started migrating to different flavors of linux as desktop machines.
The thought of
When Win2k gets shelved, there will be no windows OS on any of my machines. You want to talk about being painted into a corner!! Oh sorry, no VNC for you. You like your corner? Its over 70 times more stable than before! Blue screen, blue screen, blue screen. It's time to take that paint bucket and throw it at bill just like a coconut creme pie.
Exit strategy [ Linux ]
Time frame [ ASAP! ]
Even if they do try to ban it because it would turn all communications industrys upside down making there current infrastructure worth much less (or worthless in some cases). The fact remains, you can't stop technology. If development stops here, it picks right up in 5 other countries. I would be watching communications companies you own stock in very closely. Finger on the trigger for sure.
ive heard of them. but that still doesn't change the facts. LOOK IT UP!
'make Americans more lazy' umm.. what the hell are you talking about? The American workforce puts in longer hours and takes fewer vacation days than any country in the world. This is not opinion, this is fact!
Secondly, what does this device have to do with going 25 feet to the bathroom? Do you ride your bike to the bathroom? Do you drive your car to the bathroom?
Your post reminds me of a performance given by Steve Martin in the Jerk.
"The first three days felt like four days and five hours, then the next day felt like three days then the next day I had a dentist appointment so that just felt like one day, then the next day we went to the beach and that felt like THREE WHOLE DAYS! God, you look so peaceful. You almost look dead."
or something to that effect.
but back on topic.. Futurama is great, sometimes funnier than the Simpsons, but not always. I think it has alot of the same humor with a slightly more adult/snide/sarcastic punch to it. Which is not to say better, but just different, and equally good at times. The Family guy is the extreme end of this type of humor. I'd watch it more if it was on when I watch TV...ie Simpsons/Futurama time...
HEY FOX!!! Swap timeslots with King of the Hill and Family Guy!!
That would kick ass, cause KOTH sucks ballz.
You make a good point. But I would tend to believe that when fighting a loosing battle, you have to start somewhere, and this seems like the most likely place to start in order to have any kind of success whatsoever in this matter. Besides, hopefully down the road, the insulation factor will become just an added bonus rather than a outright crutch as software developers decide to capitolize on the linux market (which hopefully will have grown as a result of initial offering) and provide full linux ports of there software. Hopefully taking better advantage of system resources more directly.
But I really suspect that if it starts to gain any kind of popularity at all somebody will release a compeating api for the linux platform. Stranger things have happend.
Its just like politicians to do something bogus like this, using a situation like sept11 to put a pile of crap like this into legislation in the name of anti-terrorism. How many references to anti-terrorism are on the treaty? It's all about fairly vauge descriptions of what is to be considered a crime..primarily "hacking" of all kinds. Did I miss something here? What does hacking have to do with sept11? What does hacking have to do with terrorism from the middle east? YOU CAN'T ENFORCE THESE LAWS ON TERRORISTS!!! Just like this isn't a criminal issue..this is a 'war against terrorist/the evil do'ers'
This is all about.. ok, we need to stop terrorist hackers with stiff laws and punishments. These laws and punishments are not designed for our terrorist enemies, they are designed for our own citizens. Who is the enemy here??? It's pretty obvious that they didn't give a DAMN what the citizens of this so called democratic (i know...its really a republic) nation thought.
I love my country, but I fear my government. Now more than ever.
They don't want competition..pure and simple. Nothing new there. Whether it be in spamming or client software.
Due to the Microsoft anti-spam initiative, customers are restricted to use their mail services. Therefore, POP3 service is only available when using MSN Explorer, Microsoft Outlook, or Microsoft Outlook Express.
in other words... "ONLY WE CAN DO THE SPAMMING AROUND HERE! and.... (in an almost inaudible voice) youmustuseoursoftware.
What they may or may not do is beside the point. The fact that this happens is illustration that something is very wrong and needs to be corrected. You can't base your businesses success on what IBM MAY or MAY NOT do! That my friend is insanity!
FYI- Some businesses are built entirely on this model and this is a huge threat to there livelyhood.
Please voice your complaints here...
usptoinfo@uspto.gov
Let them know that this bulls**t has got to stop!
First tests should be pointed at the taliban.