As much as I'd love to see it, we can't, because then we'd be seen as isolationist and unwilling to share our wealth with the world.
Other cultures get pissed off when the USA doesn't give them money. If we were to tax imports, then China would complain to the UN that we were using our position as the world's biggest buyer to extort extra money in the form of taxes from our trading partners.
If you think Bin Laden is pissed off, just remember - we GAVE him money. Imagine what a terrorist would think when we TAKE money from them.
There's nothing arrogant about it. Just because the majority of people like this stuff doesn't mean I have to. That's how opinion works. I feel it's invalid, I'm not saying you have no right to feel it's valid. See how easy that was?
I think Lawrence Lessig is right. And as someone who would like to create art, but could draw worth a damn, and as someone who isn't particularly good at coming up with a decent completely original piece of music, I support those who express themselves using the words of others.
Like most things, there are two ways of looking at art. There's the artist as a member of a continuum perspective, or an artist as an individual. If you look at artists as just the latest iteration in a long line of people doing the same damn thing, then Lessig's POV makes more sense. I know I hear a lot of music that's just cookie-cutter ripoff stuff, even if it's not sample-based.
I prefer to think of artists as individuals who all have unique experiences and something new to say. I'm a musician, and I like to think that, even though my influences can be pretty obvious when I'm playing, I have a unique voice because I'm writing and playing and (sometimes) singing about my life, not someone else's. I admire the originals. Were I to ever be famous for my music, I would definitely resent someone taking something I slaved and sweated over and hacking a phrase or two out of context and sticking it in a dance tune just to make a quick buck. That's not what music means to me.
I'm not saying my opinion is better or right or anything, it's just my opinion.
It's the same as the way that the same song performed by two different artists will sound different. Depending on what the musician feels, they'll play it differently from day to day.
Sample-based music takes a given performance and duplicates that, so you're not just getting the same notes, you're getting all the elements like tone and attack that the original player brings to it. You are not saying anything new with a sample. Using nothing but samples is a cop-out and a way for people without talent to leech off of those with talent.
I can handle using drum loops. I can handle using the studio as an instrument. I can handle using samples as accents. It's doing NOTHING MORE than cutting and pasting from other peoples' work and calling it your own that pisses me off. I don't consider that music. When a human plays nothing new, it's not a new song. How can you express your emotions with other peoples' words?
For that matter, I don't like collages, either, and personally don't consider them valid artistic expressions, but most people do.
This is my opinion, flame me all you want. It's not changing.
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and then there's that stupid PLAYING OF INSTRUMENTS that all of us luddites engage in... perish the thought that a computer doesn't make an appearance in part of our life
the worst part is the lack of shaving. How dare they affront the Jesus by growing hair on their faces?? makes me ashamed to be a member of the same race as these... these.. barbarians.
that was their stupidity for using Paypal as anything more than a clearinghouse. I would never do any banking with a "bank" that I couldn't just walk into and ask for all my money in cash.
I think it's usually called "command line interface" or CLI. AFAIK, TBI is something this AC just made up. (I feel like I should throw in some extra acronyms now...)
I have an uncle that had a dog that could "spell". They'd say, "Bo, B-O-N-E!" and he would run to the cabinet where they kept the dog biscuits. I then said, "Bo, B-O-W-L!" and he went to the same cabinet. Then to make sure it wasn't a "B" phonetic thing, I said, "Bo, S-P-O-O-N" and he went to the same cabinet.
when will someone develop a processor that will automatically multithread tasks? i.e. you don't have to explicitly ask for new threads, it optimizes the code into threads for you?
yes, I realize this is anti-geek, so this processor would also allow you to take control of thread creation by flipping a register or something.
I've got the skills, prick. But without claiming to have the paper they think I'm lying. So fuck them. They can think I have the paper, and then I'll take what I need and go on. This is just my day job anyway.
it does feel good, to a point, but then after a while, all the violent impulses get 'satisfied', for lack of a better term.
I see myself doing this insane stuff and wonder what the hell came over me.
A recent CGW reviewed Soldier of Fortune II and cut it down to 2 1/2 stars (out of 5) partially because of its bad AI and storyline, but also because of its overly-realistic violence. I think there's a backlash against hyperrealism going on. I know I don't want to grenade someone and see their guts laying everywhere in a game. I know it happens, but that's too much.
I've been disturbed at how psycho I've gotten while playing GTA3, especially when using the baseball bat or when running over pedestrians. You start beating that guy laying on the ground and it's a little scary how real it seems.
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As much as I'd love to see it, we can't, because then we'd be seen as isolationist and unwilling to share our wealth with the world.
Other cultures get pissed off when the USA doesn't give them money. If we were to tax imports, then China would complain to the UN that we were using our position as the world's biggest buyer to extort extra money in the form of taxes from our trading partners.
If you think Bin Laden is pissed off, just remember - we GAVE him money. Imagine what a terrorist would think when we TAKE money from them.
There's nothing arrogant about it. Just because the majority of people like this stuff doesn't mean I have to. That's how opinion works. I feel it's invalid, I'm not saying you have no right to feel it's valid. See how easy that was?
Like most things, there are two ways of looking at art. There's the artist as a member of a continuum perspective, or an artist as an individual. If you look at artists as just the latest iteration in a long line of people doing the same damn thing, then Lessig's POV makes more sense. I know I hear a lot of music that's just cookie-cutter ripoff stuff, even if it's not sample-based.
I prefer to think of artists as individuals who all have unique experiences and something new to say. I'm a musician, and I like to think that, even though my influences can be pretty obvious when I'm playing, I have a unique voice because I'm writing and playing and (sometimes) singing about my life, not someone else's. I admire the originals. Were I to ever be famous for my music, I would definitely resent someone taking something I slaved and sweated over and hacking a phrase or two out of context and sticking it in a dance tune just to make a quick buck. That's not what music means to me.
I'm not saying my opinion is better or right or anything, it's just my opinion.
It's the same as the way that the same song performed by two different artists will sound different. Depending on what the musician feels, they'll play it differently from day to day.
Sample-based music takes a given performance and duplicates that, so you're not just getting the same notes, you're getting all the elements like tone and attack that the original player brings to it. You are not saying anything new with a sample. Using nothing but samples is a cop-out and a way for people without talent to leech off of those with talent.
I can handle using drum loops. I can handle using the studio as an instrument. I can handle using samples as accents. It's doing NOTHING MORE than cutting and pasting from other peoples' work and calling it your own that pisses me off. I don't consider that music. When a human plays nothing new, it's not a new song. How can you express your emotions with other peoples' words?
For that matter, I don't like collages, either, and personally don't consider them valid artistic expressions, but most people do.
This is my opinion, flame me all you want. It's not changing.
and then there's that stupid PLAYING OF INSTRUMENTS that all of us luddites engage in... perish the thought that a computer doesn't make an appearance in part of our life
the worst part is the lack of shaving. How dare they affront the Jesus by growing hair on their faces?? makes me ashamed to be a member of the same race as these... these.. barbarians.
yeah, but at least I have the option. I don't trust any financial institution that doesn't have a physical presence.
I use paypal when I buy and sell on ebay, because it's easy and almost everyone takes it, but I don't ever carry a balance.
that was their stupidity for using Paypal as anything more than a clearinghouse. I would never do any banking with a "bank" that I couldn't just walk into and ask for all my money in cash.
for the way the company becomes the religion on Japan they had better give you access to the managerial concubines too
cigarette lighter? you're mixing up reality and Phillip K. Dick again!
do you have a helicopter? Do you commute in it, piloting yourself? that's what I thought.
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that's sort of like all the smoke escaping from your machine when you hook it up to 220, right?
he'll regret it when she gives up on him and decides to marry the machine.
myself, I sprang fully formed from the head of satan.
ha, true. I was about 12 at the time, so he didn't have THAT much over me, though :)
I have an uncle that had a dog that could "spell". They'd say, "Bo, B-O-N-E!" and he would run to the cabinet where they kept the dog biscuits. I then said, "Bo, B-O-W-L!" and he went to the same cabinet. Then to make sure it wasn't a "B" phonetic thing, I said, "Bo, S-P-O-O-N" and he went to the same cabinet.
Dogs just aren't that smart.
when will someone develop a processor that will automatically multithread tasks? i.e. you don't have to explicitly ask for new threads, it optimizes the code into threads for you?
yes, I realize this is anti-geek, so this processor would also allow you to take control of thread creation by flipping a register or something.
I've got the skills, prick. But without claiming to have the paper they think I'm lying. So fuck them. They can think I have the paper, and then I'll take what I need and go on. This is just my day job anyway.
very true. I screwed myself out of some money by being honest about my lack of college degree. They're not going to pay any attention.
Lie like a bastard and suck down corporate funds. They'll screw you any chance they get, so you should screw them also.
Well, that would explain why they still reproduce..
it does feel good, to a point, but then after a while, all the violent impulses get 'satisfied', for lack of a better term.
I see myself doing this insane stuff and wonder what the hell came over me.
A recent CGW reviewed Soldier of Fortune II and cut it down to 2 1/2 stars (out of 5) partially because of its bad AI and storyline, but also because of its overly-realistic violence. I think there's a backlash against hyperrealism going on. I know I don't want to grenade someone and see their guts laying everywhere in a game. I know it happens, but that's too much.
I've been disturbed at how psycho I've gotten while playing GTA3, especially when using the baseball bat or when running over pedestrians. You start beating that guy laying on the ground and it's a little scary how real it seems.
For you cynics out there, remember that China has a History of responding to these kinds of tactics.