I agree with you about not wanting to work with a bunch of slobs. I've been in that sort of environment and it's hard to take the Chief Scientist seriously when he's wearing shorts, a hawaiian shirt, and birkenstocks. However, you eventually can take him seriously, if you can get over your appearance prejudices.
Philosophically I'm appalled by the placement of being "environmentally correct", and thus making more money, over personal freedom. I know that I'm in the minority so I'll stop arguing. I bow down too after all.
"Before you point your finger you should know that I'm the man" - Tool
and Kohlberg 4 people (i.e. 90% of the world) will feel good because they're doing the "Right Thing" by using hardware that makes sure these wonderful content providers get their rights.
the difference was that you probably wouldn't have been wearing a suit if your corporate master hadn't told you to. They may have conformed to each other, but they chose to do so.
The evil of Conforming by choice is less than that of Conforming for money. And choosing to be in an environment where you are forced to conform in appearance shows a lack of self-respect.
you bought a print of the original, unedited version.
If you bought 10,000 prints of the Mona Lisa, drew a mustache on all of them, and then resold them, The Louvre (or whoever owns the image rights to the Mona Lisa) would have a cease and desist in your face ASAP.
If you secured rights to edit the Mona Lisa and then sell it before you sold it, then you would be legal.
Same thing with movies. I can edit my own tape of Fight Club, but someone can't sell me an edited tape without Fincher's (or Fincher's production company's) permission.
Slashdot ought to be called News For Copyright Law Geeks. Stuff That Used To Matter.
ok, damn it. yeah, you can buy dangerous products that are labeled as such. But you are not allowed to sell dangerous products that are labeled as benign - unless the product is software. This is where the regulations need to be adopted.
Remember when Pool of Radiance II came out? the installer had a bug that would FORMAT HARD DRIVES. That's the data equivalent of bringing in a new toaster that explodes catastrophically, burning down your kitchen. That is not legal. All the toaster was supposed to do was make toast.
People (i.e. not us, but Joe Sixpack) are getting over their fear and awe of computers now, and are realizing that these aren't boxes full of magic, they're just machines. When they realize that they OWN the computers, instead of the computers owning THEM, that's when change will happen. Politicians don't give a shit about the geek vote, they're too stupid to comprehend us.
I think the law works that way. There's no liability attached to gifts. That's why people who donate money to schools to build playgrounds don't get sued when a kid falls from the monkey bars and breaks their arm (that, and that particular kid has sane parents that know kids just do stuff like that)
If free software classified itself as a 'gift to the computing world', then it wouldn't fall under the same regulations.
Commercial bundles, like Office and the Adobe "value pack", would be tricky, too.
You can't be made to sit on a rotten board on top of a light tree at the local ballpark.
So why doesn't software have regulations that it can't destroy your machine? You may not own the software, but you damn sure own the parts of the computer.
If this were regulated then click-through licensing would be a non-issue, as it really would be about terms of use and not simply a deathgrip.
Condit's problem was that his legacy input device had gained too much bandwidth. A new input device with a lightweight controlling process will make him responsive again.
Unfortunately the process is owned by root and something comes along and kills it.
KNOWN ISSUE: You might have to interrogate Condit multiple times before he acknowledges that he has a connection to this device.
here in the USA if republicans are in charge at the time of switchover, they'll probably just arrest the people that don't have the TVs for being terrorists.
Unix has been around for 30 years or so now. a lot of the command line utilities people use today are ports of programs written in the 70s.
There's MORE to choose from in a Unix environment because people have been writing software for it longer. The good software sticks around. Do you know what people used to find files by content before grep? I don't, and I don't care, because grep kicks ass. Would it be better than Start->Find->containing text for my dad, a hater of computers? Absolutely not.
what happens if you buy the phone, but it in your car, forget it's there for a couple of years, then REALLY NEED IT (i.e. break down 100s of miles from home) but some Next Big Thing in wireless comes along and the company stops supporting the protocol that your phone speaks?
What if you buy the phone, hide it in the car, trade the car in forgetting the phone is in there, and somebody gets the phone, calls in and gets your personal info?
if the time comes that I ever have to ride a bike because the gov't tracks me otherwise, I think I'd rather sell all my material goods and go live in tibet. I hated bikes as a kid and I will never ride one ever again. EVER. I don't care if that makes me an ugly american that doesn't give a shit about the environment. Bikes SUCK.
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I would think Perl would be more like Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music album.
(I use Perl every day and I love it, but it's ugly)
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I agree with you about not wanting to work with a bunch of slobs. I've been in that sort of environment and it's hard to take the Chief Scientist seriously when he's wearing shorts, a hawaiian shirt, and birkenstocks. However, you eventually can take him seriously, if you can get over your appearance prejudices.
Philosophically I'm appalled by the placement of being "environmentally correct", and thus making more money, over personal freedom. I know that I'm in the minority so I'll stop arguing. I bow down too after all.
"Before you point your finger you should know that I'm the man" - Tool
and Kohlberg 4 people (i.e. 90% of the world) will feel good because they're doing the "Right Thing" by using hardware that makes sure these wonderful content providers get their rights.
yet another reason to incorporate yourself.
hmm.
I wonder how many laws you can get around if you do that..
the difference was that you probably wouldn't have been wearing a suit if your corporate master hadn't told you to. They may have conformed to each other, but they chose to do so.
The evil of Conforming by choice is less than that of Conforming for money. And choosing to be in an environment where you are forced to conform in appearance shows a lack of self-respect.
it's not the clothes I dislike, it's the lack of options.
I also dislike being treated as if I don't know how to dress myself. (I'm not married either)
"in the future, you may not want to get head"
yeah, but could he shoot down Iceman? NO! So, like, HA!
you bought a print of the original, unedited version.
If you bought 10,000 prints of the Mona Lisa, drew a mustache on all of them, and then resold them, The Louvre (or whoever owns the image rights to the Mona Lisa) would have a cease and desist in your face ASAP.
If you secured rights to edit the Mona Lisa and then sell it before you sold it, then you would be legal.
Same thing with movies. I can edit my own tape of Fight Club, but someone can't sell me an edited tape without Fincher's (or Fincher's production company's) permission.
Slashdot ought to be called News For Copyright Law Geeks. Stuff That Used To Matter.
It's the floating S.H.I.E.L.D. base!
Someone needs to see if there was a sighting of a hairy dude with an eyepatch and a cigar in the area.
all this talk about gravity brings me down. and don't bring up friction either, that's a drag.
ok, damn it. yeah, you can buy dangerous products that are labeled as such. But you are not allowed to sell dangerous products that are labeled as benign - unless the product is software. This is where the regulations need to be adopted.
Remember when Pool of Radiance II came out? the installer had a bug that would FORMAT HARD DRIVES. That's the data equivalent of bringing in a new toaster that explodes catastrophically, burning down your kitchen. That is not legal. All the toaster was supposed to do was make toast.
People (i.e. not us, but Joe Sixpack) are getting over their fear and awe of computers now, and are realizing that these aren't boxes full of magic, they're just machines. When they realize that they OWN the computers, instead of the computers owning THEM, that's when change will happen. Politicians don't give a shit about the geek vote, they're too stupid to comprehend us.
I think the law works that way. There's no liability attached to gifts. That's why people who donate money to schools to build playgrounds don't get sued when a kid falls from the monkey bars and breaks their arm (that, and that particular kid has sane parents that know kids just do stuff like that)
If free software classified itself as a 'gift to the computing world', then it wouldn't fall under the same regulations.
Commercial bundles, like Office and the Adobe "value pack", would be tricky, too.
Ford can't sell cars that kill you.
The meat industry can't sell you rotten steak.
You can't be made to sit on a rotten board on top of a light tree at the local ballpark.
So why doesn't software have regulations that it can't destroy your machine? You may not own the software, but you damn sure own the parts of the computer.
If this were regulated then click-through licensing would be a non-issue, as it really would be about terms of use and not simply a deathgrip.
Condit's problem was that his legacy input device had gained too much bandwidth. A new input device with a lightweight controlling process will make him responsive again.
Unfortunately the process is owned by root and something comes along and kills it.
KNOWN ISSUE: You might have to interrogate Condit multiple times before he acknowledges that he has a connection to this device.
my 10 inch penis would like to demonstrate how irrelevant your 58 gallon reef tank is.
you know you're all terrorists for even discussing how to do this, right?
The only thing that would be more incriminating would be to bow to Mecca in front of an FBI agent.
here in the USA if republicans are in charge at the time of switchover, they'll probably just arrest the people that don't have the TVs for being terrorists.
that's nice if you hated planning to begin with. I thrive on it. If I don't know what I'm doing next, then I get very uncomfortable.
Unix has been around for 30 years or so now. a lot of the command line utilities people use today are ports of programs written in the 70s.
There's MORE to choose from in a Unix environment because people have been writing software for it longer. The good software sticks around. Do you know what people used to find files by content before grep? I don't, and I don't care, because grep kicks ass. Would it be better than Start->Find->containing text for my dad, a hater of computers? Absolutely not.
This is old news. Atari predicted the asteroid war in the late 70s.
what happens if you buy the phone, but it in your car, forget it's there for a couple of years, then REALLY NEED IT (i.e. break down 100s of miles from home) but some Next Big Thing in wireless comes along and the company stops supporting the protocol that your phone speaks?
What if you buy the phone, hide it in the car, trade the car in forgetting the phone is in there, and somebody gets the phone, calls in and gets your personal info?
if the time comes that I ever have to ride a bike because the gov't tracks me otherwise, I think I'd rather sell all my material goods and go live in tibet. I hated bikes as a kid and I will never ride one ever again. EVER. I don't care if that makes me an ugly american that doesn't give a shit about the environment. Bikes SUCK.