give it a rest. nobody cares about multicast except you.
internet radio and webcams aren't compelling enough applications to drive wide deployment of multicast. if you believe this to be true, you're delusional.
face it. multicast IS JUST BROADCAST. PERIOD.
and consumers arent interested in broadcast anymore. the declining number of TV viewers and radio listeners (for the first time in history!) proves this.
consumers want on demand, non broadcast, individual traffic. broadcast is out, interactive peer to peer on demand is in. p2p warezing, online games, websites.
people dont want to sit back like vegetables on the internet and just have broadcast media blindly streamed at them. they want to click, go, and have bulk data given to them on demand, from the beginning to the end, as fast as possible.
multicast simply can't fill this demand.
hell, it can't even fill the most "obvious winner" of multicast -- nntp. not because multicast isnt available at the nodes where nntp multicast could be applied (it is), but because there's no real way to make nntp work with multicast. people have tried, repeatedly. it simply doesn't work.
if multicast really worked, and actually solved problems, everyone would be demanding multicast nntp. but it doesnt. multicast can only be applied to a very narrow field of problems. it simply isnt generic enough to apply to eg http or smtp or any of the 'killer apps' out there right now.
find a way to multicast-enable p2p file sharing and you might get somewhere.
it has nothing to do with attitude and everything to do with 'no demand, no apps, no interest'.
go ahead and deploy multicast everywhere. without killer apps, nobody is going to be interested. nobody will use it.
Wouldn't it be a little difficult to see a 5 mW green light during the daytime?
Given the latter, why do you think they would be checking during the daytime...?
And why would banach be pointing out stars during the daytime? Duh?
As for trying to identify the origin of the laser. You're flying a jet at night (because as you stated, 5mw lasers dont work too well during the day). Do you see buildings and streets? No. You see a pattern of city lights.
So next day you fly around in the helicopter trying to determine the source of the laser. Do you fly during the day? No? Why not? Because you cant see the city lights during the day, so you can't identify the location. So you fly during the night, so you can see the pattern of city lights and identify the location.
Seems pretty logical to me?
But you go on defending him with easily punctured excuses. It's fun to shoot them down easily.
Please explain how you temporarily blind someone with a laser without having the light hit anyones eyes?
How do you see laser beams as the helicopter crew did, without light hitting someones eye? Some new fangled physics of photons you care to share with us?
and a VIA which just said to the people, we are not fast, but they can handle the stuff you want to do with your HTPCs self made routers, firewalls, fileservers (you name it), we are cheap you can buy our stuff from the next vendor on the net and we will support you, and Transmeta was on a losing ground.
thats precisely the problem though. transmeta wasnt cheap. they priced themselves out of the hobbyist market and aimed squarely at laptop manufacturers. their developer support was also very poor. via's isnt great but at least you can make most of the stuff work.
there are numerous incidents where airline pilots have had their eyesight temporarily or in some cases permanently damaged from lasers illuminating the cockpit.
the TSA has a long history of lots of documented cases of cockpits being hit by UV, IR, visible light lasers and the crew being blinded. long before all these fuckin' idiots started buying laser pointers off ebay and pointing them at aircraft.
it used to be relatively rare, but now you have every fucking moron in the country thinking its a good idea to blind pilots.
I just love the wording they chose to describe the stupidity... "hit by a laser beam". They make it seem like the dude was firing a laser gun at them and harming the helicopter.
doesnt sound that way to me at all, any more than "hit by a spotlight".
your attempt to assign malicious intent to the journalist failed utterly.
what's funny is all the slashdorks who whine about how south korea has such good internet connectivity, and point at how they should be a model for the USA. totally neglecting the fact that south korea is one of the most densely populated countries on the planet.
the problem with multicast is that in order for it to be effective those 1000 people all need to be listening to the exact same 128kbit ogg vobis stream.
but the internet doesnt usually work like that. most internet users want to listen to whatever they want when they want. multicast is just broadcast like broadcast tv or broadcast radio.
multicast is also only a win when >1 user on the same net subscribes to the same multicast stream. even on large ISPs this is incredibly rare.
sure, a few multicast clients might exist, but there's nobody providing any compelling content to make it worthwhile for anyone to use the client software for it, let alone demand their ISP deploy it.
so go ahead and rant about how ISPs are blocking deployment of multicast. you're missing the point -- why would anyone want to use it when there's nothing compelling being delivered on it to begin with.
bonnie hammer destroyed the scifi channel, turning it into a stupid horror/pyschic channel aimed at housewives. but at least they occasionally ran some good series.
then scifi cancelled farscape.
then those fucks at g4 destroyed techtv.
so I cancelled cable. when they asked why, i told them - scifi and techtv had gone to shit.
why pay $40/mo on cable when you can buy an entire season of episodes for $40, commercial free, on dvd, and watch them when you want and not when the networks dictate you should watch them? (yes i know you can dvr your channels, but buying dvd box sets is still cheaper, and better quality.)
A newspaper or tv news reporter might not if they are really pressed for time. But if they have the time to spaer, they will. Cherry picking and coaching interviewees ahead of time in journalism is very common.
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but who wouldn't want to see Taco and CowboyNeal hosting their own shows?
so basically, use perl when you want to be destructive and php when you want to be productive.
got it. thanks.
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PCL is to printing what winmodems are to telecommunications.
Not everything speaks PCL, and for good reason -- PCL is far too limited to be taken seriously for anything other than consumer printing devices.
Also, which PCL would you have everyone standardize on? PCL2? PCL3? PCL4? PCL5? PCL6?
postscript makes for a nicely device-independent universal format which can be downconverted into the output device requirements (eg your cheap-ass $50 inkjet which barely speaks PCL at all)
In many cases, code scrutiny is difficult or impossible
Compared to what?
Progress and innovation tends to occur within the context of aquisitions (i.e. UnixWare)
Categorically disagree. Who acquired (free|net|open)bsd or Linux? IRIX? Solaris? Or are you saying none of these operating systems progressed or innovated?
And uh, heh. Calling unixware innovative takes some real balls:)
It can very definitely be used as a desktop processor.
i never said it couldn't. i said it doesn't make sense to, and there's no real market for this. dothan is targeted for laptops.
the mobile athlon 64 has a TDP of 35 watts, if you're so concerned with power consumption.
as for TDP claims, intel understates their TDP while AMD overstates theirs. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article169-page3.htm l
as I said, my amd64 stuff runs cool and completely silent already. the freaking hard drives are orders of magnitude louder than the cpu fan, and these are pretty quiet drives. why would i care about something which uses even less power when the cpu is already totally cool and the hsf is already totally silent? what's the gain?
If the Iraqi people wanted this democracy, they would be up in arms fighting with us. They would be turning in the suicide bombers before they could kill. They would be handing over the rebel clerics.
bullshit.
the iraqi people desire democracy (or at least what could pass for a democratic system under islam) but the iraqi people are largely passive. decades of living under an orwellian dictatorship sort of does that to people.
that and the threat by insurgents to kill anyone even suspected of "working for the merkans" sort of takes the piss out of the desire to be caught informing on anyone.
there may be a point of critical mass where the majority of iraqis get fed up, take up arms and start fighting -- but they havent reached that point yet.
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give it a rest. nobody cares about multicast except you.
internet radio and webcams aren't compelling enough applications to drive wide deployment of multicast. if you believe this to be true, you're delusional.
face it. multicast IS JUST BROADCAST. PERIOD.
and consumers arent interested in broadcast anymore. the declining number of TV viewers and radio listeners (for the first time in history!) proves this.
consumers want on demand, non broadcast, individual traffic. broadcast is out, interactive peer to peer on demand is in. p2p warezing, online games, websites.
people dont want to sit back like vegetables on the internet and just have broadcast media blindly streamed at them. they want to click, go, and have bulk data given to them on demand, from the beginning to the end, as fast as possible.
multicast simply can't fill this demand.
hell, it can't even fill the most "obvious winner" of multicast -- nntp. not because multicast isnt available at the nodes where nntp multicast could be applied (it is), but because there's no real way to make nntp work with multicast. people have tried, repeatedly. it simply doesn't work.
if multicast really worked, and actually solved problems, everyone would be demanding multicast nntp. but it doesnt. multicast can only be applied to a very narrow field of problems. it simply isnt generic enough to apply to eg http or smtp or any of the 'killer apps' out there right now.
find a way to multicast-enable p2p file sharing and you might get somewhere.
it has nothing to do with attitude and everything to do with 'no demand, no apps, no interest'.
go ahead and deploy multicast everywhere. without killer apps, nobody is going to be interested. nobody will use it.
but you'll still whine.
You said:
Wouldn't they be doing that in the day?
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Wouldn't it be a little difficult to see a 5 mW green light during the daytime?
Given the latter, why do you think they would be checking during the daytime...?
And why would banach be pointing out stars during the daytime? Duh?
As for trying to identify the origin of the laser. You're flying a jet at night (because as you stated, 5mw lasers dont work too well during the day). Do you see buildings and streets? No. You see a pattern of city lights.
So next day you fly around in the helicopter trying to determine the source of the laser. Do you fly during the day? No? Why not? Because you cant see the city lights during the day, so you can't identify the location. So you fly during the night, so you can see the pattern of city lights and identify the location.
Seems pretty logical to me?
But you go on defending him with easily punctured excuses. It's fun to shoot them down easily.
Federal authorities Tuesday used the Patriot Act to charge a man with pointing a laser beam at an airplane overhead and temporarily blinding the pilot and co-pilot.
The chartered jet was flying at about 3,000 feet when the pilot and co-pilot saw a green laser beam strike the windshield three times, according to court documents filed Tuesday. The flash blinded the two temporarily, but they were later able to land the plane safely. After the helicopter crew also reported seeing laser beams, FBI agents canvassed Banach's neighborhood.
Please explain how you temporarily blind someone with a laser without having the light hit anyones eyes?
How do you see laser beams as the helicopter crew did, without light hitting someones eye? Some new fangled physics of photons you care to share with us?
and a VIA which just said to the people, we are not fast, but they can handle the stuff you want to do with your HTPCs self made routers, firewalls, fileservers (you name it), we are cheap you can buy our stuff from the next vendor on the net and we will support you, and Transmeta was on a losing ground.
thats precisely the problem though. transmeta wasnt cheap. they priced themselves out of the hobbyist market and aimed squarely at laptop manufacturers. their developer support was also very poor. via's isnt great but at least you can make most of the stuff work.
altitude most certainly was mentioned in several articles about the incident.
you either didnt read them or you didnt google very well.
you're not naive, just an idiot.
there are numerous incidents where airline pilots have had their eyesight temporarily or in some cases permanently damaged from lasers illuminating the cockpit.
the TSA has a long history of lots of documented cases of cockpits being hit by UV, IR, visible light lasers and the crew being blinded. long before all these fuckin' idiots started buying laser pointers off ebay and pointing them at aircraft.
it used to be relatively rare, but now you have every fucking moron in the country thinking its a good idea to blind pilots.
you are dead wrong on both counts.
not suprising for a typical slashdork though.
I guess /. editors believe we have a constitutional right to blind pilots of aircraft.
I just love the wording they chose to describe the stupidity... "hit by a laser beam". They make it seem like the dude was firing a laser gun at them and harming the helicopter.
doesnt sound that way to me at all, any more than "hit by a spotlight".
your attempt to assign malicious intent to the journalist failed utterly.
totally owned him with facts.
what's funny is all the slashdorks who whine about how south korea has such good internet connectivity, and point at how they should be a model for the USA. totally neglecting the fact that south korea is one of the most densely populated countries on the planet.
the problem with multicast is that in order for it to be effective those 1000 people all need to be listening to the exact same 128kbit ogg vobis stream.
but the internet doesnt usually work like that. most internet users want to listen to whatever they want when they want. multicast is just broadcast like broadcast tv or broadcast radio.
multicast is also only a win when >1 user on the same net subscribes to the same multicast stream. even on large ISPs this is incredibly rare.
sure, a few multicast clients might exist, but there's nobody providing any compelling content to make it worthwhile for anyone to use the client software for it, let alone demand their ISP deploy it.
so go ahead and rant about how ISPs are blocking deployment of multicast. you're missing the point -- why would anyone want to use it when there's nothing compelling being delivered on it to begin with.
is because there arent any apps for it, dumbass.
ipv6 isnt deployed because it would make ISPs irrelevant? whatever.
beyond me how you got a +5 for just making shit up. you need a serious whomping with a clue-by-four. as do the clueless morons who modded you up.
bonnie hammer destroyed the scifi channel, turning it into a stupid horror/pyschic channel aimed at housewives. but at least they occasionally ran some good series.
then scifi cancelled farscape.
then those fucks at g4 destroyed techtv.
so I cancelled cable. when they asked why, i told them - scifi and techtv had gone to shit.
why pay $40/mo on cable when you can buy an entire season of episodes for $40, commercial free, on dvd, and watch them when you want and not when the networks dictate you should watch them? (yes i know you can dvr your channels, but buying dvd box sets is still cheaper, and better quality.)
A print reporter wouldn't typically do that.
Sure they do. They do it all the time.
A newspaper or tv news reporter might not if they are really pressed for time. But if they have the time to spaer, they will. Cherry picking and coaching interviewees ahead of time in journalism is very common.
but who wouldn't want to see Taco and CowboyNeal hosting their own shows?
i wouldn't.
so basically, use perl when you want to be destructive and php when you want to be productive.
got it. thanks.
1) pay russian/chinese/etc criminals to post floods of warez on linux torrent sites ...
2) "complain" to the feds about warez on linux torrent sites
3)
4) profit!
Um, no.
PCL is to printing what winmodems are to telecommunications.
Not everything speaks PCL, and for good reason -- PCL is far too limited to be taken seriously for anything other than consumer printing devices.
Also, which PCL would you have everyone standardize on? PCL2? PCL3? PCL4? PCL5? PCL6?
postscript makes for a nicely device-independent universal format which can be downconverted into the output device requirements (eg your cheap-ass $50 inkjet which barely speaks PCL at all)
Insightful my ass.
In many cases, code scrutiny is difficult or impossible
Compared to what?
Progress and innovation tends to occur within the context of aquisitions (i.e. UnixWare)
:)
Categorically disagree. Who acquired (free|net|open)bsd or Linux? IRIX? Solaris? Or are you saying none of these operating systems progressed or innovated?
And uh, heh. Calling unixware innovative takes some real balls
not likely. many companies have been producing modern processors on SOI for a while now. PowerPC and MIPS for example.
:-D
just because ibm believes something doesnt mean its true
It can very definitely be used as a desktop processor.
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i never said it couldn't. i said it doesn't make sense to, and there's no real market for this. dothan is targeted for laptops.
the mobile athlon 64 has a TDP of 35 watts, if you're so concerned with power consumption.
as for TDP claims, intel understates their TDP while AMD overstates theirs. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article169-page3.ht
as I said, my amd64 stuff runs cool and completely silent already. the freaking hard drives are orders of magnitude louder than the cpu fan, and these are pretty quiet drives. why would i care about something which uses even less power when the cpu is already totally cool and the hsf is already totally silent? what's the gain?
If the Iraqi people wanted this democracy, they would be up in arms fighting with us. They would be turning in the suicide bombers before they could kill. They would be handing over the rebel clerics.
bullshit.
the iraqi people desire democracy (or at least what could pass for a democratic system under islam) but the iraqi people are largely passive. decades of living under an orwellian dictatorship sort of does that to people.
that and the threat by insurgents to kill anyone even suspected of "working for the merkans" sort of takes the piss out of the desire to be caught informing on anyone.
there may be a point of critical mass where the majority of iraqis get fed up, take up arms and start fighting -- but they havent reached that point yet.
yes he did.
11 year olds simply don't talk like that.
Obviously fake, but still quite funny.