"Sources told us that BellSouth and Verizon records are included in the database," USA Today spokesman Steve Anderson said Tuesday.
"We're confident in our coverage of the phone database story," Anderson added, "but we won't summarily dismiss BellSouth's and Verizon's denials without taking a closer look."
emphasis added, where exactly is the flop? In order to have a flop the author would have to change something, not just point out that the phone companys didn't like the way the story was presented.
oh wait, I see the flop, "BellSouth did not challenge the initial report when given details about it before publication. But BellSouth spokesman Jeff Battcher said he never agreed to the reporter's allegations when presented with them."
you meant the phone companys are flopping, well your posting was mis-worded.
>I would've thought with MythTV in the equation that streaming live TV and being able to change channels (on your phone) would be the killer app.
watch live TV? thats so 1990's. I even record the morning news so I can fast forward to the weather, when I wake up (although whats the point, I live in southern AZ, the weather is just HOT and sunny everyday.)
I assume you browse mythTV web interface to choose to record the channel to watch, then you play that. Besides someone who is this addicted to gadgets would have multiple phones anyway. The next update will be to stream in multiple pieces so that you can build a 19" display out of 20 phones all displaying the same thing, directing the surround sound to different phones.
>conveniently on other platforms, we will not see the death of the desktop. >will wait until someone posts the content of the first to see how off topic I am
Well, because the WSJ article, appears to be about PC = msft software + generic hardware. Their main competitor to that is a Apple P.C. and the gates followup is about any microsoft based device that runs more than a single program. I am not sure what would be off topic, more than the gates reply.
Since a P.C. means (to me) something that does what the Person wants, not what some big company allows it to do (be it the company I work for or the RIAA, or MSFT...). I think the term PC is what is being killed, and it has succeeded.
> For a borrower, I don't see much advantage, though the terms may be slightly better. 3 words, "Line of Credit" once upon a time many (more) credit cards gave interest on positive balances. I would be very interested in a single account that I could get close to the same rate for money to loan and borrow. But also directly building credibility for borrowing from my loaning history (ok you build credit history allowing Credit Cards.)
Because I have a house, I do have a line of credit NOW that lets me get money from it. but before that line of credit was available to me, I would have a large purchase (vehicle), and want to borrow 5 grand while having built a balance of over 10 grand over the last 6 months (I don't like car loans, because I hate cost of full coverage insurance, and feal I am a below average risk of claim. Also I don't make claims, because car insurance is more like a paying for a guranteed loan if your car is destroyed, than insurance.)
> Bashing Windows is not a defense, friend. I know it feels righteous and it makes you proud to be so very technically correct, but it's a false economy. You've won nothing.
The article was to be about upgrading to XP vs upgrading to Linux. Yet it was all bashing the shortcommings of linux, not comparing them to XP, the upgrade to XP was one sentence, He bought the upgrade copy of XP, no install, nada.
If linux is to be a replacement for windows, for the inexperienced. It needs to be installed by manufactures. If it is too compete against upgrades, then it seams fair to give equal bashing to XP as to linux (which was left out of the WSJ article.) After all, his upgrade version of XP is going to leave him short on everything he bashed linux about. His media files, excell files, etc are not going to play until he downloads or buys more apps. quoting a price of $100 for XP was only appropriate, because the reporter is likely to take a copy of office, etc from work for use at home, not exactly appropriate for the (supposid) target audiance of his piece (inexperienced home users.)
> Research Whole Disk Encryption. Doesn't seam like that would be a solution for the server drives stolen for this article.
You either have to key in a password on any power-up, or have some device authorizing on boot. guess if your running multiple distant site redunency you could have it retrive the password across the network somehow, so it's authentication could be pulled if you lost just one server...
For valuable data, it seams like physical security of something that does the unlocking will need to occur no matter what. be it multiple people, or multiple computers... because encrypting the data on the server is going to either have the unlock passwords hard coded somewhere, or have everyone who accesses the data having memorized passwords that essentually unlock the servers data.
> What you are proposing is a democracy, which is not something we want. Majority rule is calld mob rule for a reason. I think that was meant with some sarcasm, but of course their is some truth to it. After all, if we were allowed to vote for, and always voted for what makes you the individual best off, then no member of a minority group would ever be given any power or rights. That is why the founding fathers made the Constitution, to guarantee certain rights wouldn't be taken away based on some "mob rule" vote.
That seams very unlikely, a society with moral values will understand to vote with those values as a whole, such that they would not bias rules against the few. Now putting the absolute power in the hands of a few, has always lead to a level of corruption at the top.
> muck up, and cast so much doubt on one implementation of a electronic system, to get them all outlawed.
just to be clear, I think it is in the best intrest of the leaders of both the democrat, and republican partys to cast doubt on any method of accurately, and quickly counting the true opinion of all the people.
The system in the US currently precludes anyone not part of the republican, or democrat establishments from taking power (not by law, but by implementation). So although the Democrats may not be in power now, they can be assured that they will at worst be 2nd fiddle, until things swing back to them. So it is not in the best intrests of the democrats to reduce any of the executive powers, etc because even if their not the current or maybe even the next holder of the lead, they will be assured of being one of the next...
> start a grassroots movement to outlaw the use of any electronic, and therefore hackable, voting machines. I will say that is best action to hold the status quo. it is in the best intrest (in my opinion) of the partys in power (Democrat and Republican in the US) to make sure voting can never be so quick and painless to have regular votes on important issues.
so I think that would be the goal, muck up, and cast so much doubt on one implementation of a electronic system, to get them all outlawed. That preserevs the status quo of occasional votes boiled down to simple yes/no decisions that most voters are only allowed a few minutes to ponder. Because thats all we can accuratly count with a paper ballot.
After all a good system would allow voting to be as easy as accessing a ATM machine, and all major bills/representitives wording could then be voted upon, and changes proposed wiki style, and accurate information presented to all. That would drastically reduce the power of the executive branch, and thus the influence of the lobyists bribing them, and throw our whole system of the rich and power hungry having all the power.
>$500 ($550 CDN for me) IS a harsh sting... but compared to the $400 (non-crippled model) Xbox 360, it DOES have a Blu-ray drive, which is a nice bonus.
heck at $600 for the blue-ray with HDTV support, if it has a remote controll that can turn it on and off, I'll buy one, and I don't care about the games. Thats assuming blue ray players are still over $900 when it comes out. (I do have a Xbox with games, but I only got it after/because the encryption was cracked.)
A non blue-ray/HD-DVD XBox would be no comparison (by non, I mean not bulit-in, who wants 2 boxs to cover one job)
>Where do you live that it costs $20-45 per person to go to a movie theater? no idea, must have been asleep when I wrore that. Or maybe I was using the same math as the MPAA when it lost $6.1 billion. Forbes says it's $8.50-$10 per ticket, I spend about $10 for drink and popcorn. probably $5 to get their (using $0.32/mile) so about $32 per trip for 2. so that would be 80 trips to the theater to pay for my plasma TV, another 6 trips to pay for a year of netflix. so at weekly trips thats under 2 years. now, how long until a service like netflix supplies HD movies?
>Folks, anyone else out there realize that $900 is extremely expensive for the average joe to spend on a TV?
well, movie theaters costs $20-45 per person. Large screen TV's were not a replacement for the Movie theater in quality. $900 HDTV seams like it would be.
so that TV costs equivalent 20 persons visits to the theater, or 10 date visits, or 5 family visits.
my 42" TV, and Netflix subscription has so far (1 year) eliminated the thought of a Movie theater from my house. But the regular DVD wouldn't eliminate the draw if we had a quality movie theater close. (closest theater often has sound issues, next closest is at the mall, and is over-run with annoyances.)
> Anyone with a HDTV is not likely to be satisfied with the 'HD' quality that would be produced by a console DVD player anyway.
It will if thats thats the most affordable. The output quality of the DVD players in consoles is equal to regular players. The difference is in the UI, and remote controls. So basically if the first players under $700 are consoles, with still limted movie selecetion. I doubt any HDTV owners will care that it takes a extra minute, and have to manually play with the controller to view 1 HD movie a month. Once I have a HD-DVD library equal to my DVD collection. then I will be willing to pay a few hundred more for a simplier startup and remote.
I don't think the Xbox 360 is going to have any influance, because their are not going to be any games for it that won't play from the internal DVD, which is apperently going to always be regular definition.
The PS3 may have a influence, if it is out before the rental stores start renting HD content, then that will be the people walking into blockbuster,etc saying you got anything I can try out my PS3 HD player.
I had a DVD in my computer well before it was connected to my TV. I didn't go buy a DVD player until the rental store had a bigger selection of DVD movies than VCR. Watching DVD's on the computer was ok, until we had to rent for the PC, not the TV.
>#1 in my book, which you seem to have forgotten: RELIABILITY! I won't be getting rid of my cat 5 cables any time soon for this reason alone.
From my experience, it is easier for a novice (not beginner) to setup a reliable wireless network, than a wired one. I had a lot more support issues, with $10 switch hooked to $10 switch, looped network connections, worn out/broken clips on the eithernet cables... (I work at a office with a lot of visitors, and laptops.) than I have ever gotten with, here's a USB drive with the WEP key. Same at my house, it took 2* as long to get the Wireless working, but I switched my Linktheater from Wireless to wired, thinking the faster rate would benefit, just to learn that my linksys switch gets warm, and needs reboots, or it gets unreliable. The DSL modem with built-in G hasn't had the same issues.
>Cancer from radio waves, eh? I guess we're all doomed then. OMG your not wearing your genuine tin, tinfoil hat and overcoat? unbelievable to still be alive taking risks like that!
> "Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded. more likely the first country to announce plans to do it to it's own citizens. It is safe to say the US records every vehicle movement in IRAQ, Afghanistan, probably much of Israel, and Pakistan. Also it is obvious when something like the Federal Building bombing occurred, that somehow we do a amazing job of quickly figuring out any vehicles movement after the fact in the US.
--- just because I am paranoid, doesn't mean their not watching us.
>so clearly since they were wrong once they can never ever possibly be right about anything? I didn't take it as a example of wrong, it was a example of exageration.
So ya, because they have always exagerated in the past, it is likely they are continuing along that theme today.
Clearly they are not "losing about $6.1 billion" they may be missing out a potential extra profit of $6.1 billion. Same as me saying I Lost $100,000 on the Palm IPO. Had I been a big enough trader, I could, and would (I did try) having shorted Palm during their IPO, covered by the 2000 shares I (eventully) recieved from my 3com stock distribution when it was selling over a $100 a share (was at ~$5 a share when I actually got the distribution). Then canceled out those shares when I recieved my distribution from 3com. I didn't do anything to deserve the $100,000. but had it not been for the exchange rules, I would have that money. (ignoring that a million other people/variables would have likely ruined that possibilty first.)
> I'll just sit back and realize that I can live without such luxuries I am also good at saving, and never buy any luxary item on credit. In the old days, money was just a way to decrease the transaction cost. IE money has no value, other than what you can get with it. so to not get too fixated on $$$ or items, I do remind myself saving money to buy something is smart. accumlating money just to accumlate money, and brag about net worth, is meaningles to me I try to stop myself from "appraising" everything, such as that car is worth $50,000. I more like to think, when I have $10,000 I can then get my garage...
> sell a warranty on a router, saying that's he's had 3 break down in the last year and a half hmm, am I the only one who says, well in that case I don't want one from here at all, and walk out? I know it doesn't bother anyone, but if a sub $100 device needs a warranty, I don't need it.
> However, that $250 looks more affordable if you believe that they are not going to make the $150 console nigh on obsolete within a matter of months. you mean sorta like releasing a version with a HD-Drive before christmas this year? last I heard that was the plan, so anyone who knew the hype (from day one) that their would be a HDDVD drive coming soon. should pass if they want a device that would not be completly obsolete, within a year. I would pay more for a hacked Xbox gen1 that can play HD content I recorded (I do already own) than for a Xbox 360 unhacked that can't play any HD content (movies I mean) especially when their will be Xbox 360's with HD movie playin built in soon.
then add in the knowledge, that their is no upgrading the DVD drive http://www.xbox-scene.com/ Each Xbox 360 DVD drive has a unique key, if that key doesn't match what your console is expecting your DVD drive will not work.
should make the current generation xbox360 the lowest resale value on the used market this christmas.
guess you didn't read my last reply, I'll make it short.
As you pointed out, everything had to be moved thousands of miles. so that gypsum is mined using a truck that burns 2 Gallons per minute (thats what I make, thanks for the business!) moved on a barge that burns 5 gallons a minute, moved to a truck that get 5 mpg, then shown in a heat/Ac warehouse waiting for you. so that $20,000 bathroom is probably well over 10% fuel cost, so over 2 years worth of typical driving of a SUV.
nothing wrong with that, but obviously your priority isn't helping, it's using. Same as the rest of us pigs.
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"Sources told us that BellSouth and Verizon records are included in the database," USA Today spokesman Steve Anderson said Tuesday.
"We're confident in our coverage of the phone database story," Anderson added, "but we won't summarily dismiss BellSouth's and Verizon's denials without taking a closer look."
emphasis added, where exactly is the flop? In order to have a flop the author would have to change something, not just point out that the phone companys didn't like the way the story was presented.
oh wait, I see the flop, "BellSouth did not challenge the initial report when given details about it before publication. But BellSouth spokesman Jeff Battcher said he never agreed to the reporter's allegations when presented with them."
you meant the phone companys are flopping, well your posting was mis-worded.
>so that you can build a 19" display out of 20 phones all displaying the same thing
>I would've thought with MythTV in the equation that streaming live TV and being able to change channels (on your phone) would be the killer app.
watch live TV? thats so 1990's. I even record the morning news so I can fast forward to the weather, when I wake up (although whats the point, I live in southern AZ, the weather is just HOT and sunny everyday.)
I assume you browse mythTV web interface to choose to record the channel to watch, then you play that. Besides someone who is this addicted to gadgets would have multiple phones anyway. The next update will be to stream in multiple pieces so that you can build a 19" display out of 20 phones all displaying the same thing, directing the surround sound to different phones.
>conveniently on other platforms, we will not see the death of the desktop.
>will wait until someone posts the content of the first to see how off topic I am
Well, because the WSJ article, appears to be about PC = msft software + generic hardware. Their main competitor to that is a Apple P.C.
and the gates followup is about any microsoft based device that runs more than a single program. I am not sure what would be off topic, more than the gates reply.
Since a P.C. means (to me) something that does what the Person wants, not what some big company allows it to do (be it the company I work for or the RIAA, or MSFT...). I think the term PC is what is being killed, and it has succeeded.
> For a borrower, I don't see much advantage, though the terms may be slightly better.
3 words, "Line of Credit" once upon a time many (more) credit cards gave interest on positive balances. I would be very interested in a single account that I could get close to the same rate for money to loan and borrow. But also directly building credibility for borrowing from my loaning history (ok you build credit history allowing Credit Cards.)
Because I have a house, I do have a line of credit NOW that lets me get money from it. but before that line of credit was available to me, I would have a large purchase (vehicle), and want to borrow 5 grand while having built a balance of over 10 grand over the last 6 months (I don't like car loans, because I hate cost of full coverage insurance, and feal I am a below average risk of claim. Also I don't make claims, because car insurance is more like a paying for a guranteed loan if your car is destroyed, than insurance.)
> Bashing Windows is not a defense, friend. I know it feels righteous and it makes you proud to be so very technically correct, but it's a false economy. You've won nothing.
The article was to be about upgrading to XP vs upgrading to Linux. Yet it was all bashing the shortcommings of linux, not comparing them to XP, the upgrade to XP was one sentence, He bought the upgrade copy of XP, no install, nada.
If linux is to be a replacement for windows, for the inexperienced. It needs to be installed by manufactures. If it is too compete against upgrades, then it seams fair to give equal bashing to XP as to linux (which was left out of the WSJ article.) After all, his upgrade version of XP is going to leave him short on everything he bashed linux about. His media files, excell files, etc are not going to play until he downloads or buys more apps. quoting a price of $100 for XP was only appropriate, because the reporter is likely to take a copy of office, etc from work for use at home, not exactly appropriate for the (supposid) target audiance of his piece (inexperienced home users.)
> Research Whole Disk Encryption.
Doesn't seam like that would be a solution for the server drives stolen for this article.
You either have to key in a password on any power-up, or have some device authorizing on boot. guess if your running multiple distant site redunency you could have it retrive the password across the network somehow, so it's authentication could be pulled if you lost just one server...
For valuable data, it seams like physical security of something that does the unlocking will need to occur no matter what. be it multiple people, or multiple computers... because encrypting the data on the server is going to either have the unlock passwords hard coded somewhere, or have everyone who accesses the data having memorized passwords that essentually unlock the servers data.
> What you are proposing is a democracy, which is not something we want. Majority rule is calld mob rule for a reason.
I think that was meant with some sarcasm, but of course their is some truth to it.
After all, if we were allowed to vote for, and always voted for what makes you the individual best off, then no member of a minority group would ever be given any power or rights. That is why the founding fathers made the Constitution, to guarantee certain rights wouldn't be taken away based on some "mob rule" vote.
That seams very unlikely, a society with moral values will understand to vote with those values as a whole, such that they would not bias rules against the few. Now putting the absolute power in the hands of a few, has always lead to a level of corruption at the top.
> muck up, and cast so much doubt on one implementation of a electronic system, to get them all outlawed.
just to be clear, I think it is in the best intrest of the leaders of both the democrat, and republican partys to cast doubt on any method of accurately, and quickly counting the true opinion of all the people.
The system in the US currently precludes anyone not part of the republican, or democrat establishments from taking power (not by law, but by implementation). So although the Democrats may not be in power now, they can be assured that they will at worst be 2nd fiddle, until things swing back to them.
So it is not in the best intrests of the democrats to reduce any of the executive powers, etc because even if their not the current or maybe even the next holder of the lead, they will be assured of being one of the next...
> start a grassroots movement to outlaw the use of any electronic, and therefore hackable, voting machines.
I will say that is best action to hold the status quo. it is in the best intrest (in my opinion) of the partys in power (Democrat and Republican in the US) to make sure voting can never be so quick and painless to have regular votes on important issues.
so I think that would be the goal, muck up, and cast so much doubt on one implementation of a electronic system, to get them all outlawed. That preserevs the status quo of occasional votes boiled down to simple yes/no decisions that most voters are only allowed a few minutes to ponder. Because thats all we can accuratly count with a paper ballot.
After all a good system would allow voting to be as easy as accessing a ATM machine, and all major bills/representitives wording could then be voted upon, and changes proposed wiki style, and accurate information presented to all. That would drastically reduce the power of the executive branch, and thus the influence of the lobyists bribing them, and throw our whole system of the rich and power hungry having all the power.
>$500 ($550 CDN for me) IS a harsh sting... but compared to the $400 (non-crippled model) Xbox 360, it DOES have a Blu-ray drive, which is a nice bonus.
heck at $600 for the blue-ray with HDTV support, if it has a remote controll that can turn it on and off, I'll buy one, and I don't care about the games. Thats assuming blue ray players are still over $900 when it comes out. (I do have a Xbox with games, but I only got it after/because the encryption was cracked.)
A non blue-ray/HD-DVD XBox would be no comparison (by non, I mean not bulit-in, who wants 2 boxs to cover one job)
>Where do you live that it costs $20-45 per person to go to a movie theater?
no idea, must have been asleep when I wrore that. Or maybe I was using the same math as the MPAA when it lost $6.1 billion.
Forbes says it's $8.50-$10 per ticket, I spend about $10 for drink and popcorn. probably $5 to get their (using $0.32/mile) so about $32 per trip for 2. so that would be 80 trips to the theater to pay for my plasma TV, another 6 trips to pay for a year of netflix. so at weekly trips thats under 2 years.
now, how long until a service like netflix supplies HD movies?
>Folks, anyone else out there realize that $900 is extremely expensive for the average joe to spend on a TV?
well, movie theaters costs $20-45 per person. Large screen TV's were not a replacement for the Movie theater in quality. $900 HDTV seams like it would be.
so that TV costs equivalent 20 persons visits to the theater, or 10 date visits, or 5 family visits.
my 42" TV, and Netflix subscription has so far (1 year) eliminated the thought of a Movie theater from my house. But the regular DVD wouldn't eliminate the draw if we had a quality movie theater close. (closest theater often has sound issues, next closest is at the mall, and is over-run with annoyances.)
> Anyone with a HDTV is not likely to be satisfied with the 'HD' quality that would be produced by a console DVD player anyway.
It will if thats thats the most affordable. The output quality of the DVD players in consoles is equal to regular players. The difference is in the UI, and remote controls. So basically if the first players under $700 are consoles, with still limted movie selecetion. I doubt any HDTV owners will care that it takes a extra minute, and have to manually play with the controller to view 1 HD movie a month. Once I have a HD-DVD library equal to my DVD collection. then I will be willing to pay a few hundred more for a simplier startup and remote.
I don't think the Xbox 360 is going to have any influance, because their are not going to be any games for it that won't play from the internal DVD, which is apperently going to always be regular definition.
The PS3 may have a influence, if it is out before the rental stores start renting HD content, then that will be the people walking into blockbuster,etc saying you got anything I can try out my PS3 HD player.
I had a DVD in my computer well before it was connected to my TV. I didn't go buy a DVD player until the rental store had a bigger selection of DVD movies than VCR. Watching DVD's on the computer was ok, until we had to rent for the PC, not the TV.
Because he has loaned access of his Spam-net of computers over to the republicans for use in the up-coming election.
>#1 in my book, which you seem to have forgotten: RELIABILITY! I won't be getting rid of my cat 5 cables any time soon for this reason alone.
From my experience, it is easier for a novice (not beginner) to setup a reliable wireless network, than a wired one. I had a lot more support issues, with $10 switch hooked to $10 switch, looped network connections, worn out/broken clips on the eithernet cables... (I work at a office with a lot of visitors, and laptops.)
than I have ever gotten with, here's a USB drive with the WEP key.
Same at my house, it took 2* as long to get the Wireless working, but I switched my Linktheater from Wireless to wired, thinking the faster rate would benefit, just to learn that my linksys switch gets warm, and needs reboots, or it gets unreliable. The DSL modem with built-in G hasn't had the same issues.
>Cancer from radio waves, eh? I guess we're all doomed then.
OMG your not wearing your genuine tin, tinfoil hat and overcoat? unbelievable to still be alive taking risks like that!
>You're talking about shoving foreign objects in your body for a reason other than saving your life.
easy now, RFID tag = bad, Silicone breast enlargement = awesome.
> "Britain is to become the first country in the world where the movements of all vehicles on the roads are recorded.
more likely the first country to announce plans to do it to it's own citizens.
It is safe to say the US records every vehicle movement in IRAQ, Afghanistan, probably much of Israel, and Pakistan. Also it is obvious when something like the Federal Building bombing occurred, that somehow we do a amazing job of quickly figuring out any vehicles movement after the fact in the US.
---
just because I am paranoid, doesn't mean their not watching us.
>so clearly since they were wrong once they can never ever possibly be right about anything?
I didn't take it as a example of wrong, it was a example of exageration.
So ya, because they have always exagerated in the past, it is likely they are continuing along that theme today.
Clearly they are not "losing about $6.1 billion" they may be missing out a potential extra profit of $6.1 billion. Same as me saying I Lost $100,000 on the Palm IPO. Had I been a big enough trader, I could, and would (I did try) having shorted Palm during their IPO, covered by the 2000 shares I (eventully) recieved from my 3com stock distribution when it was selling over a $100 a share (was at ~$5 a share when I actually got the distribution). Then canceled out those shares when I recieved my distribution from 3com. I didn't do anything to deserve the $100,000. but had it not been for the exchange rules, I would have that money.
(ignoring that a million other people/variables would have likely ruined that possibilty first.)
> I'll just sit back and realize that I can live without such luxuries
I am also good at saving, and never buy any luxary item on credit.
In the old days, money was just a way to decrease the transaction cost. IE money has no value, other than what you can get with it.
so to not get too fixated on $$$ or items, I do remind myself saving money to buy something is smart. accumlating money just to accumlate money, and brag about net worth, is meaningles to me
I try to stop myself from "appraising" everything, such as that car is worth $50,000. I more like to think, when I have $10,000 I can then get my garage...
> sell a warranty on a router, saying that's he's had 3 break down in the last year and a half
hmm, am I the only one who says, well in that case I don't want one from here at all, and walk out?
I know it doesn't bother anyone, but if a sub $100 device needs a warranty, I don't need it.
> However, that $250 looks more affordable if you believe that they are not going to make the $150 console nigh on obsolete within a matter of months.
you mean sorta like releasing a version with a HD-Drive before christmas this year?
last I heard that was the plan, so anyone who knew the hype (from day one) that their would be a HDDVD drive coming soon. should pass if they want a device that would not be completly obsolete, within a year.
I would pay more for a hacked Xbox gen1 that can play HD content I recorded (I do already own) than for a Xbox 360 unhacked that can't play any HD content (movies I mean) especially when their will be Xbox 360's with HD movie playin built in soon.
then add in the knowledge, that their is no upgrading the DVD drive http://www.xbox-scene.com/ Each Xbox 360 DVD drive has a unique key, if that key doesn't match what your console is expecting your DVD drive will not work.
should make the current generation xbox360 the lowest resale value on the used market this christmas.
guess you didn't read my last reply, I'll make it short.
As you pointed out, everything had to be moved thousands of miles. so that gypsum is mined using a truck that burns 2 Gallons per minute (thats what I make, thanks for the business!) moved on a barge that burns 5 gallons a minute, moved to a truck that get 5 mpg, then shown in a heat/Ac warehouse waiting for you. so that $20,000 bathroom is probably well over 10% fuel cost, so over 2 years worth of typical driving of a SUV.
nothing wrong with that, but obviously your priority isn't helping, it's using. Same as the rest of us pigs.
>> the specific one the professor requires for the course (that you have to have because it's used for the homework),
>You left out "also written by the professor".
well it was illegal at the college I went to, for a professor to profit using his own textbook for a class he tought.
Theirfore it was always the previous professors book, and it was commen courtesy to pay it forward.