Are you serious? In New Zealand? 128K Upstream is the best I can get for under $500 p/m. Hosting anything on that is likely to nuke your connection if you have anything remotely popular. I'd rather pay $20 p/m for colo and be done with it.
PearPC, for PPC mac, and BasiliskII for 68k macs, and coLinux is linux for windows, don't know how well it runs games though. And all of those are free, except of course for the System 8/OSX Licenses.
>The one finally rewritten as microkernel, of course using the amazing message passing version of Visual Basic. > >PS Half of this post is serious. Finding what part actually is is left as exercise to the reader
Whoah, the next version of Linux is going to be written in VB. And I thought I had wasted a year of my life learning VB. Now I find out I wasted 3 years learning UNIX C programming, noooo.
I had the exact same thought. Another Example, is some usb devices, mass storage and hid for example, most usb hardware supports standard interfaces, and then you get plain retarded hardware like a few early memory card readers, and some stupid Tablets, and webcams. Surely for example a webcam should be able to specify the output framerate, frame format, and any controls it has, and work like every other webcam. It does it on the software API side anyway, so why not have a standard hardware interface, then we would only need one USB webcam driver, one USB scanner driver, etc. Maybe we can hope for better with the release of the "next fantastic bus".
But the Mac-mini's hard drive would be full in under a week. I'm sorry but 120G, certainly isn't enough for a leechbot. BTW I have several RAID boxes under my desk, in my bedroom, a sunblade 100, An athlon 1600, PII266, PII300, and a PP200 router, and I have no trouble getting to sleep, and no they're not quiet, I just got used to it, can't sleep without them.
> How many programs are out there in active use that make use of TCP/IP? How many of them are >IPv6-ready? > >My guesses: tens of thousands and a handful, respectively.
tens of thousands and a few hundred, respectively. You'd be surprised how many applications either have compilet-time or run-time support for IPv6, at least on Gnu/Linux.
But Microsoft have already done it, they just don't tell people. All you have to do to get IPv6 running on Windows XP, is run ipv6 install at the CMD prompt. This is assuming you already have an IPv6 router, setting up a router can be a much more difficult task depending on your network architecture. Still Linux is even easier, it's already there.
And to all those who say there is not point to IPv6, free usenet:o, what better reason than that.
Now if I can just get my Freenet6 Tunnel to stay up when the ISP pointlessly changes my IPv4 Address, It's frickin' DSL, I'm always going to have an IP so why do they need to change it.
That doesn't get all the shitty US show's I hate watching but d/load anyway. I mean what are the chances of New Zealand ever getting American Dad or the next season of Family Guy, or that shitty show numb3rs with all the stupid phony maths, I mean I should be able to watch all the same shitty crap that americans get to watch.
I don't know what the law is in Australia (where Andrew Tridgell lives?), but in New Zealand which tends to have similar laws reverse engineering clauses are invalid anyway AFAIK (it comes under fair-use rights or something). It would be silly to say that you can't disassemble your car and see how it works, so I think it follows that you should be able to do the same with software, However if parts of the car are patented then it doesn't matter if you re-invented them on your own or copied them you still can't market them (I think you can copy them for your own use?).
The influx of the internet is truly the main reason there are so many people out there who own PC's now-a-days, and these people are using them for recreation.
Wow I heard of cyber-sex but that's getting ridiculous.
Oh my bad, I must try to remember words can have more than one meaning. What ever happened to strict Type/Function Declaration.
>or 8way and bigger, go ahead and TRY to find >opensource unix (I am a big freebsd fan, btw) that >scales in cpu's as well as a sun or sgi or similar >box.
SGI Altix and SGI Prism (admittedly both based on itanic), run Gnu/Linux, and since NASA's 10240 cpu machine is a cluster of SGI Altix nodes, I would say that is scaling well.
http://www.sgi.com/products/servers/altix/http://www.sgi.com/products/servers/prism/
I'm sure there's other manufacurers which scale almost as well but I can't be bothered going and digging them out.
>It is their job to represent the will of the people (ALL the people, not just the wealthy contributors) that they are supposed to be governing. Isn't it their job to represent the will of the people of their country. I agree with you, but they really ought not to support the will of people from other countries unless it is in the best interest of people from this country, which clearly it's not.
I can't see how a software patent (a method to stop interoperability), on a method of interoperability makes any sense.
I've found the ultimate storage device even better than this,/dev/null it just never seems to fill up I must of backed millions of movi^H^H^H^Hwork documents up into it. Just wish I could find out how to extract it back. Oh yes and I'm filing a patent on backing thhings to/dev/null so that when I do find a way I'll make squillions!
> I 100% agree with the fact that a modern OS >should > >A) Not have a CLI. > >B) Not require users/developers/admins/anyone to >ever open or use it. > >I primarily use Windows and OS X, and very rarely >do I ever need to open a command line, and if I >had to, I could avoid it all together.
I 50% agree with you.
An operating system should not require users/developers/admins/anyone to ever open or use it.
However It should allow users/developers/admins/anyone to open and use it. which implies that it has one.
Many tasks can't be done well with GUI, like copying/moving/archiving/scripting. However users should be able to do it in an ineffective way such as dragging, dropping etc, it doesn't mean it should be the only way, nor shuld the CLI be the only way.
Having said that 9 times out of 10 it's easier, quicker and tidier to do something at the prompt.
Forcing users to use a GUI because some users are to stupid/illiterate/{on crack} to use a shell is dumb like Mac pre X.
On the other hand trying to do do image work, or 3d modelling or browsing is better done with a GUI.
Unless your talking about VT's, in which case if you don't like them disable them, you can make linux start X straight away and not have a Text-Console, but it's not really worth it.
just let me say one thing MAC OS X SUCKS! and heres why,
ONE FSCKING MOUSE BUTTON!
other than that it's great (if you can afford a mac).
>One thing I don't understand from promoters of the >dark side is why would we want the idiots to swith >to linux? They can stay with windows or webTV for >all I care.
The only reason I can think of is that Hardware vendors won't release (binary) drivers for obscure operating systems, linux is starting to gain recognitionand many manufacturers are releasing binary drivers.
Of course this isn't really ideal, what if I want to use hurd, or Fiasco or some other obscure OS? what good will a binary driver be then? What if I want to run Gnu/Linux on my , what good is an x86 NVIDIA Binary driver then?
It would be much better if they would just do what they used to (back when PC's ran ??-DOS) and released spec-sheets. Most of my old hardware manuals circa 1992 have full interface specifications in the back of the 100-1000 page manuals. But I really can't see things going this way, most hardware manufacturers still don't "get" Free software. Also alot of hardware now is just total rubbish and the drivers are full of hacks to make them work, or even implement a large amount of what the hardware should already do. If the NVIDIA/ATI/3dlabs/Matrox/whatever drivers were just a driver (an interface between the OS and the hardware), then why would they care about it being Free.
What good is it to Company-A can write a driver for Company-B's hardware, Company-A still can't make Company-B's hardware and still doesn't know how it works.
Unfortunately a lot of the "Hardware" fetaures are actually in the driver. However I still don't quite see what they have to gain, I bet NVIDIA/ATI have teams of people reverse-engineering each-others drivers for any possible feature they haven't already copied/reimplemented/co-invented.
My advice to hardware manufacturers is make real hardware and release specs. People will buy your hardware because of the increased performance/stability. and because the hardware is well made you won't be exposing "trade secrets" to your competitors, through binary or Free drivers.
Hah, over here in Noo Zeearand, employers all seem to want you to have MCSE, yet I've never met an MCSE who can understand TCP/IP, setup SCSI, pronounce SCSI, or worset use a mouse. so there ya go it is still a recognised qualification.
yes you can emacs, LaTeX and the gnu toolchain:P what you can't do is write a well formatted document in office or write a cross-platform program in visual studio.
But I can't understand this, yes FreeBSD is great, but how can you be at all productive under X, or any gui, witht the exception of perhaps ratpoison. I've always been most productive using the console and emacs/vim. I would rather ctrl-alt-f2 and use the VT than use an xterm. Not that I don't use X for browsing the web (so many pages don't work in text-based browsers), and work in blender and GIMP but if your writing text then there's nothing better than the console.
Besides once you fire up that text editor of choice the operating system doesn't matter, well except if your using a forced GUI os like mac or windows:( .
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Are you serious? In New Zealand? 128K Upstream is the best I can get for under $500 p/m.
Hosting anything on that is likely to nuke your connection if you have anything remotely popular.
I'd rather pay $20 p/m for colo and be done with it.
Use a system with two optical drives. Load into Knoppix, rip DVD you just rented, upload to several hosts, reboot.
you'd need a fair whack of ram to do that (8GB?), would't not be easier to kill syslogd, and use a temporary partition/loopback?
I would be very, very worried if a surgeon was doing remote surgery over anything less than a dedicated lease cicuit or CBR Framerelay.
Uhh, iTunes i DRM'd also. well at least it doesn't install spyware but it still doesn't let you use the music how you see fit.
PearPC, for PPC mac, and BasiliskII for 68k macs, and coLinux is linux for windows, don't know how well it runs games though.
And all of those are free, except of course for the System 8/OSX Licenses.
>The one finally rewritten as microkernel, of course using the amazing message passing version of Visual Basic.
>
>PS Half of this post is serious. Finding what part actually is is left as exercise to the reader
Whoah, the next version of Linux is going to be written in VB.
And I thought I had wasted a year of my life learning VB. Now I find out I wasted 3 years learning UNIX C programming, noooo.
I had the exact same thought.
Another Example, is some usb devices, mass storage and hid for example, most usb hardware supports standard interfaces, and then you get plain
retarded hardware like a few early memory card readers, and some stupid Tablets, and webcams.
Surely for example a webcam should be able to specify the output framerate, frame format, and any controls it has, and work like every other
webcam. It does it on the software API side anyway, so why not have a standard hardware interface, then we would only need one USB webcam driver, one USB scanner driver, etc.
Maybe we can hope for better with the release of the "next fantastic bus".
But the Mac-mini's hard drive would be full in under a week. I'm sorry but 120G, certainly isn't enough for a leechbot. BTW I have several RAID boxes under my desk, in my bedroom, a sunblade 100, An athlon 1600, PII266, PII300, and a PP200 router, and I have no trouble getting to sleep, and no they're not quiet, I just got used to it, can't sleep without them.
> How many programs are out there in active use that make use of TCP/IP? How many of them are >IPv6-ready?
>
>My guesses: tens of thousands and a handful, respectively.
tens of thousands and a few hundred, respectively.
You'd be surprised how many applications either have compilet-time or run-time support for IPv6, at least on Gnu/Linux.
Surely being USB 1.1 and wired are both good things.
Why on earth would a mouse need over 12Mbps of bandwidth, which is the only advantage of USB 2.0.
But Microsoft have already done it, they just don't tell people. All you have to do to get IPv6 running on Windows XP, is run ipv6 install at the CMD prompt. This is assuming you already have an IPv6 router, setting up a router can be a much more difficult task depending on your network architecture. Still Linux is even easier, it's already there.
And to all those who say there is not point to IPv6, free usenet :o, what better reason than that.
Now if I can just get my Freenet6 Tunnel to stay up when the ISP pointlessly changes my IPv4 Address, It's frickin' DSL, I'm always going to have an IP so why do they need to change it.
That doesn't get all the shitty US show's I hate watching but d/load anyway. I mean what are the chances of New Zealand ever getting American Dad or the next season of Family Guy, or that shitty show numb3rs with all the stupid phony maths, I mean I should be able to watch all the same shitty crap that americans get to watch.
Any system which requires obfuscation for its DRM is not going to last long.
Or to simplify any DRM is not going to last long
The nature of DRM in that you can actually view the information somehow, is in itself compromising the security.
If you can see it you can copy it, that's never going to change.
I don't know what the law is in Australia (where Andrew Tridgell lives?), but in New Zealand which tends to have similar laws reverse engineering clauses are invalid anyway AFAIK (it comes under fair-use rights or something). It would be silly to say that you can't disassemble your car and see how it works, so I think it follows that you should be able to do the same with software, However if parts of the car are patented then it doesn't matter if you re-invented them on your own or copied them you still can't market them (I think you can copy them for your own use?).
The influx of the internet is truly the main reason there are so many people out there who own PC's now-a-days, and these people are using them for recreation.
Wow I heard of cyber-sex but that's getting ridiculous.
Oh my bad, I must try to remember words can have more than one meaning. What ever happened to strict Type/Function Declaration.
>or 8way and bigger, go ahead and TRY to find >opensource unix (I am a big freebsd fan, btw) that >scales in cpu's as well as a sun or sgi or similar >box. SGI Altix and SGI Prism (admittedly both based on itanic), run Gnu/Linux, and since NASA's 10240 cpu machine is a cluster of SGI Altix nodes, I would say that is scaling well. http://www.sgi.com/products/servers/altix/ http://www.sgi.com/products/servers/prism/ I'm sure there's other manufacurers which scale almost as well but I can't be bothered going and digging them out.
>It is their job to represent the will of the people (ALL the people, not just the wealthy contributors) that they are supposed to be governing.
Isn't it their job to represent the will of the people of their country. I agree with you, but they really ought not to support the will of people from other countries unless it is in the best interest of people from this country, which clearly it's not.
I can't see how a software patent (a method to stop interoperability), on a method of interoperability makes any sense.
I've found the ultimate storage device even better than this, /dev/null it just never seems to fill up I must of backed millions of movi^H^H^H^Hwork documents up into it. Just wish I could find out how to extract it back. /dev/null so that when I do find a way I'll make squillions!
Oh yes and I'm filing a patent on backing thhings to
> I 100% agree with the fact that a modern OS >should
>
>A) Not have a CLI.
>
>B) Not require users/developers/admins/anyone to >ever open or use it.
>
>I primarily use Windows and OS X, and very rarely >do I ever need to open a command line, and if I >had to, I could avoid it all together.
I 50% agree with you.
An operating system should not require users/developers/admins/anyone to ever open or use it.
However It should allow users/developers/admins/anyone to open and use it. which implies that it has one.
Many tasks can't be done well with GUI, like copying/moving/archiving/scripting. However users should be able to do it in an ineffective way such as dragging, dropping etc, it doesn't mean it should be the only way, nor shuld the CLI be the only way.
Having said that 9 times out of 10 it's easier, quicker and tidier to do something at the prompt.
Forcing users to use a GUI because some users are to stupid/illiterate/{on crack} to use a shell is dumb like Mac pre X.
On the other hand trying to do do image work, or 3d modelling or browsing is better done with a GUI.
Unless your talking about VT's, in which case if you don't like them disable them, you can make linux start X straight away and not have a Text-Console, but it's not really worth it.
just let me say one thing MAC OS X SUCKS!
and heres why,
ONE FSCKING MOUSE BUTTON!
other than that it's great (if you can afford a mac).
>One thing I don't understand from promoters of the
>dark side is why would we want the idiots to swith
>to linux? They can stay with windows or webTV for
>all I care.
The only reason I can think of is that Hardware vendors won't release (binary) drivers for obscure operating systems, linux is starting to gain recognitionand many manufacturers are releasing binary drivers.
Of course this isn't really ideal, what if I want to use hurd, or Fiasco or some other obscure OS? what good will a binary driver be then? What if I want to run Gnu/Linux on my , what good is an x86 NVIDIA Binary driver then?
It would be much better if they would just do what they used to (back when PC's ran ??-DOS) and released spec-sheets. Most of my old hardware manuals circa 1992 have full interface specifications in the back of the 100-1000 page manuals. But I really can't see things going this way, most hardware manufacturers still don't "get" Free software. Also alot of hardware now is just total rubbish and the drivers are full of hacks to make them work, or even implement a large amount of what the hardware should already do. If the NVIDIA/ATI/3dlabs/Matrox/whatever drivers were just a driver (an interface between the OS and the hardware), then why would they care about it being Free.
What good is it to Company-A can write a driver for Company-B's hardware, Company-A still can't make Company-B's hardware and still doesn't know how it works.
Unfortunately a lot of the "Hardware" fetaures are actually in the driver. However I still don't quite see what they have to gain, I bet NVIDIA/ATI have teams of people reverse-engineering each-others drivers for any possible feature they haven't already copied/reimplemented/co-invented.
My advice to hardware manufacturers is make real hardware and release specs. People will buy your hardware because of the increased performance/stability. and because the hardware is well made you won't be exposing "trade secrets" to your competitors, through binary or Free drivers.
Anyway thats my 3.14 cents.
But it's still a mazda 626 and hence total rubbish, sorry end of argument.
Hah, over here in Noo Zeearand, employers all seem to want you to have MCSE, yet I've never met an MCSE who can understand TCP/IP, setup SCSI, pronounce SCSI, or worset use a mouse. so there ya go it is still a recognised qualification.
yes you can emacs, LaTeX and the gnu toolchain :P
what you can't do is write a well formatted document in office or write a cross-platform program in visual studio.
But I can't understand this, yes FreeBSD is great, but how can you be at all productive under X, or any gui, witht the exception of perhaps ratpoison. I've always been most productive using the console and emacs/vim. I would rather ctrl-alt-f2 and use the VT than use an xterm. Not that I don't use X for browsing the web (so many pages don't work in text-based browsers), and work in blender and GIMP but if your writing text then there's nothing better than the console.
:( .
Besides once you fire up that text editor of choice the operating system doesn't matter, well except if your using a forced GUI os like mac or windows
Not sure on that one but you'd be hard pressed not to call emacs an OS, and if you do I'm off to write a stub-kernel to make emacs my OS.