Did the editors, or anybody posting, even read the article or even look at the web page the article was posted on? There is so much speculation being posted, and it is obvious no one reads the articles around here.
Wow, slashdot sucks. Good for the PR firm that got this posted - it should improve their site ranking.
So with regard to Mambo, the GPL and copyright: You MAY distribute it and charge for that service. You MAY change it, add design and content to it and you MAY charge for that. You may NOT alter the license and you must NOT alter the copyright. You do NOT have to show a 'Powered by Mambo' graphic, as it not a copyright notice.
In other words, you must NOT pretend that Mambo is yours, and you must NOT charge people for Mambo iteself.
I thought that GPL software could be sold as long as the source was attached.
So, we jump head first into something we haven't started to understand? This is not political for me - I don't care who wins the argument. People are stating that the climate of the earth is changing - a complex, nonlinear system that no one really understands. The fact is that the chaotic nature of the given nonlinear system is proven.
Wrong wrong wrong. Way too simplistic. You are talking about something as simple as a soda can and comparing it to a non-linear system.
Bah. Climate change "science" is a bugger. People armed with lots of talk and very little in the way of proof. Where are the theorems? This is science, after all - at least I hope it is science, and not politics.
The fact is that, with all of the fancy talk, no one really knows. We are looking at a small part of a very large picture. Like predicting the next flip of a coin.
One of the things I do when I run a project is I never use the word "I." Even if you went back through every piece of mail I wrote for Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP SP2, you'll never see the word "I" in any of those emails, unless there was a specific reason for it. I'm just a believer in that if you want to get things done, the best way to do it is as a team.
What a wanker. This is one of those guys who when he means "you" he says "we". For example - "why don't we spend the next few hours working out the bugs." - which means "why don't you bust your ass for a few hours while I go home and get some sleep.".
This is what I love about the new GNOME release schedule - it is results-oriented. They work out what they want in 6 months, create a list of things they need to do to get there, and then work towards the result that they want. At the end of 6 months the developers can look back and really judge how close they got to the result they wanted.
Then they can plan the next six months based on what worked the last 6 months. Wonderful way to schedule a major project.
This is the same GNOME that starts a whole lot of really cool things but never finishes them.
- GNOME vfs - great idea, but none of the modules really work like they should. The ssh, smb, and ftp method are all sketchy at best.
- CORBA-like Object system - another great idea with some great code behind it but hardly implemented in any applications. I should be able to use a web browser object, a emailer object, etc.
The two issues above take the "OBJECT" and "NETWORK" right out of GNOME. I really like GNOME - libxml, atk, bonobo, and gtk are excellent.
I would believe that this is going somewhere if the KDE group announced it, but I have a feeling that this will be yet another great idea that will never really pan out.
I have also worked on kernel module coding and the only projects that I have seen that really have trouble with the Red Hat kernels are projects who have not submitted their code to the original kernel tree.
Red Hat makes their own patches when they backport that never go upstream - and for good reason. Some Red Hat patches that are great for the time being are way too hacky to go into vanilla. As a matter of fact, I have also used similar code to the RED_HAT_LINUX_KERNEL to port a driver that the maintainers of the module never would submit to the official kernel.org tree.
I think that you are partially right
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The GNOME developers so a very good job at creating a consistant, elegant desktop. I wish that they would give the developer documentation at least a quarter the effort they give the HIG. Hell, I wish that they would consistently use their CORBA-like object system.
I am an American citizen and I have gotten stopped almost every time I have flown (which is quite a bit).
I am 6'3", Caucasian, blond hair, no criminal record. Maybe I look too normal - don't know.
They are always polite, but it is frustrating constantly being checked two, three times. I always get to the airport very early but I have have a lot of close calls. Needless to say, I only fly when I have to now.
That would be a start. Looking at developer.gnome.org I see a whole lot of unfinished API docs and tutorials from years ago. Bonobo - the component system nobody really seems to use - is hardly documented at all.
Also, finish up Anjuta and make it pluggable so that it is easy to add language support. Make it easy to develop in other languages, and the dominant alternative language will rise to the top.
As a former MFC programmer myself I have to agree. The documentation and examples are excellent.
Trolltech has really put together a library which is quite intuitive and fun to use. When I think how many nights I used to hunt for obscure MFC problem fixes I am bewildered why I did not switch sooner.
I used to work in the Port of Houston - what a security nightmare. Entire ships full of containers loaded with god-knows-what checked by guys who really could not give a shit about what is in them.
I imagine it has gotten better since 9/11, but with the insane amount of goods that comes through on the average day, I still get pretty nervous.
Actually, the freedesktop guys just started to integrate the old xfree86 code into their freedesktop.org xserver code base. They have changed the name to xizzle and are changing the build from the old imake to a GNU build-style.
We have a guy who copyrighted a database and ended up selling it back to the company for around $40,000.
He had started as a consultant, and during this time he wrote the backend of a really, really important application and copyrighted the database right before being hired on full time. A month ago he decided that he wanted to go work for another company and he wanted some money for the database he had copyrighted. Now, the company that I work for has a whole staff of full time lawyers who stated his claim was legitimate.
Truth is, the guy could have charged a whole lot more but he figured that the company wouldn't jerk him around as much for $40,000 which is a drop in the bucket.
Unless you are at a shit school, a CS Major should have a damn good idea how a computer works. What university did this person come from? Your second comment on the person with the Masters in CIS screams bullshit also unless this person came out of a diploma mill.
I took a few years of Latin (forced by my school) and I can say that it was one of the most useless classes I ever had to sit through. While it might be interesting to someone studying languages, I am convinced that it is used to make parents feel like their children are getting a better education from their expensive private school. Teach spanish - people actually know what the language sounds like and it is useful.
I pretty much think the same way about assembly. For someone who really wants to understand how a computer works - great. For most of the developers out there who are going to be writing desktop or web applications it is overkill. Learn data structures.
I looked at some of these guys webpages - some really interesting fellows there. From Mike Simpson's webpage:
The PATRIOT Act, passed in 2001, gives law enforcement the tools necessary to fight terrorism at home and abroad. It enhances foreign intelligence surveillance tools for the 21st century, strengthens control of border abuse by foreign terrorists, strengthens control of border abuse by foreign terrorists, improves law enforcement sharing of information to fight terrorism, enhances penalties for terrorism, broadens definition of terrorist acts and protects against abuse of new police powers. However, while the Patriot Act has some much-needed elements, it also has some areas that I do not agree with. I recently joined Idaho Rep. C.L. "Butch" Otter in supporting his amendment that would prevent the Department of Justice (DOJ) from enforcing one of the provisions of the Patriot Act. As you may know, the Patriot Act amended the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure to allow the government to conduct searches without notifying the subjects, at least until after the search has been executed.
As a result, the amendment Rep. Otter and I supported would deny funds for the DOJ from being used to carry out Section 213 of the PATRIOT Act, which allows these so-called "sneak and peek" searches. That amendment passed by a vote of 309-118 - a sizable victory in the House of Representatives. I am also a cosponsor of H.R. 1157 - the Freedom to Read Protection Act. I believe exempting libraries and bookstores from the Patriot Act is the right thing to do and I will work with my colleagues in Congress toward the passage of this legislation.
Finally, some members of Congress have talked about making the Patriot Act permanent by removing the sunset provisions contained within the bill. I want to assure you that I am opposed to the removal of the sunset provisions in the Patriot Act. I believe it is important that this law is subjected to scrutiny in the coming years and that Congress fulfills its oversight role by ensuring the Patriot Act is not used to erode the rights of our nation's citizens.
No management committee us complete without at least 10 people in comittee per programmer. Oh - and conference calls where everyone talks over eachother, spitting out their requirements at the same time.
Worked on a ton of those. You in the cubicle next to me?
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Did the editors, or anybody posting, even read the article or even look at the web page the article was posted on? There is so much speculation being posted, and it is obvious no one reads the articles around here.
Wow, slashdot sucks. Good for the PR firm that got this posted - it should improve their site ranking.
http://mambo-foundation.org/content/view/4/45/
So with regard to Mambo, the GPL and copyright:
You MAY distribute it and charge for that service. You MAY change it, add design and content to it and you MAY charge for that. You may NOT alter the license and you must NOT alter the copyright. You do NOT have to show a 'Powered by Mambo' graphic, as it not a copyright notice.
In other words, you must NOT pretend that Mambo is yours, and you must NOT charge people for Mambo iteself.
I thought that GPL software could be sold as long as the source was attached.
So, we jump head first into something we haven't started to understand? This is not political for me - I don't care who wins the argument. People are stating that the climate of the earth is changing - a complex, nonlinear system that no one really understands. The fact is that the chaotic nature of the given nonlinear system is proven.
Wrong wrong wrong. Way too simplistic. You are talking about something as simple as a soda can and comparing it to a non-linear system.
Bah. Climate change "science" is a bugger. People armed with lots of talk and very little in the way of proof. Where are the theorems? This is science, after all - at least I hope it is science, and not politics.
The fact is that, with all of the fancy talk, no one really knows. We are looking at a small part of a very large picture. Like predicting the next flip of a coin.
One of the things I do when I run a project is I never use the word "I." Even if you went back through every piece of mail I wrote for Windows Server 2003, and Windows XP SP2, you'll never see the word "I" in any of those emails, unless there was a specific reason for it. I'm just a believer in that if you want to get things done, the best way to do it is as a team.
What a wanker. This is one of those guys who when he means "you" he says "we". For example - "why don't we spend the next few hours working out the bugs." - which means "why don't you bust your ass for a few hours while I go home and get some sleep.".
Don't blame the player, blame the game.
This is what I love about the new GNOME release schedule - it is results-oriented. They work out what they want in 6 months, create a list of things they need to do to get there, and then work towards the result that they want. At the end of 6 months the developers can look back and really judge how close they got to the result they wanted.
Then they can plan the next six months based on what worked the last 6 months. Wonderful way to schedule a major project.
This is GNOME we are talking about.
This is the same GNOME that starts a whole lot of really cool things but never finishes them.
- GNOME vfs - great idea, but none of the modules really work like they should. The ssh, smb, and ftp method are all sketchy at best.
- CORBA-like Object system - another great idea with some great code behind it but hardly implemented in any applications. I should be able to use a web browser object, a emailer object, etc.
The two issues above take the "OBJECT" and "NETWORK" right out of GNOME. I really like GNOME - libxml, atk, bonobo, and gtk are excellent.
I would believe that this is going somewhere if the KDE group announced it, but I have a feeling that this will be yet another great idea that will never really pan out.
I have also worked on kernel module coding and the only projects that I have seen that really have trouble with the Red Hat kernels are projects who have not submitted their code to the original kernel tree.
Red Hat makes their own patches when they backport that never go upstream - and for good reason. Some Red Hat patches that are great for the time being are way too hacky to go into vanilla. As a matter of fact, I have also used similar code to the RED_HAT_LINUX_KERNEL to port a driver that the maintainers of the module never would submit to the official kernel.org tree.
The GNOME developers so a very good job at creating a consistant, elegant desktop. I wish that they would give the developer documentation at least a quarter the effort they give the HIG. Hell, I wish that they would consistently use their CORBA-like object system.
I am an American citizen and I have gotten stopped almost every time I have flown (which is quite a bit).
I am 6'3", Caucasian, blond hair, no criminal record. Maybe I look too normal - don't know.
They are always polite, but it is frustrating constantly being checked two, three times. I always get to the airport very early but I have have a lot of close calls. Needless to say, I only fly when I have to now.
That would be a start. Looking at developer.gnome.org I see a whole lot of unfinished API docs and tutorials from years ago. Bonobo - the component system nobody really seems to use - is hardly documented at all.
Also, finish up Anjuta and make it pluggable so that it is easy to add language support. Make it easy to develop in other languages, and the dominant alternative language will rise to the top.
As a former MFC programmer myself I have to agree. The documentation and examples are excellent.
Trolltech has really put together a library which is quite intuitive and fun to use. When I think how many nights I used to hunt for obscure MFC problem fixes I am bewildered why I did not switch sooner.
I got an Itanium 2 in yesterday and it came with a Debian install CD.
We also purchased "Linux" support, not Red Hat or SUSE support.
Also, Debian runs really well with HP's custom kernel.
I used to work in the Port of Houston - what a security nightmare. Entire ships full of containers loaded with god-knows-what checked by guys who really could not give a shit about what is in them.
I imagine it has gotten better since 9/11, but with the insane amount of goods that comes through on the average day, I still get pretty nervous.
Actually, the freedesktop guys just started to integrate the old xfree86 code into their freedesktop.org xserver code base. They have changed the name to xizzle and are changing the build from the old imake to a GNU build-style.
Nothing worse than going to a small town with nothing but shitty coffee.
Okay - Starbucks much not be perfect, but the coffee overall is excellent, the water is good, and the taste is consistant.
We have a guy who copyrighted a database and ended up selling it back to the company for around $40,000.
He had started as a consultant, and during this time he wrote the backend of a really, really important application and copyrighted the database right before being hired on full time. A month ago he decided that he wanted to go work for another company and he wanted some money for the database he had copyrighted. Now, the company that I work for has a whole staff of full time lawyers who stated his claim was legitimate.
Truth is, the guy could have charged a whole lot more but he figured that the company wouldn't jerk him around as much for $40,000 which is a drop in the bucket.
Unless you are at a shit school, a CS Major should have a damn good idea how a computer works. What university did this person come from? Your second comment on the person with the Masters in CIS screams bullshit also unless this person came out of a diploma mill.
Agree. How could this guy be such a tool? And write about it?
No - I liked it too. I am betting the above poster hasn't seen it.
I took a few years of Latin (forced by my school) and I can say that it was one of the most useless classes I ever had to sit through. While it might be interesting to someone studying languages, I am convinced that it is used to make parents feel like their children are getting a better education from their expensive private school. Teach spanish - people actually know what the language sounds like and it is useful.
I pretty much think the same way about assembly. For someone who really wants to understand how a computer works - great. For most of the developers out there who are going to be writing desktop or web applications it is overkill. Learn data structures.
I looked at some of these guys webpages - some really interesting fellows there. From Mike Simpson's webpage:
The PATRIOT Act, passed in 2001, gives law enforcement the tools necessary to fight terrorism at home and abroad. It enhances foreign intelligence surveillance tools for the 21st century, strengthens control of border abuse by foreign terrorists, strengthens control of border abuse by foreign terrorists, improves law enforcement sharing of information to fight terrorism, enhances penalties for terrorism, broadens definition of terrorist acts and protects against abuse of new police powers. However, while the Patriot Act has some much-needed elements, it also has some areas that I do not agree with. I recently joined Idaho Rep. C.L. "Butch" Otter in supporting his amendment that would prevent the Department of Justice (DOJ) from enforcing one of the provisions of the Patriot Act. As you may know, the Patriot Act amended the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure to allow the government to conduct searches without notifying the subjects, at least until after the search has been executed.
As a result, the amendment Rep. Otter and I supported would deny funds for the DOJ from being used to carry out Section 213 of the PATRIOT Act, which allows these so-called "sneak and peek" searches. That amendment passed by a vote of 309-118 - a sizable victory in the House of Representatives. I am also a cosponsor of H.R. 1157 - the Freedom to Read Protection Act. I believe exempting libraries and bookstores from the Patriot Act is the right thing to do and I will work with my colleagues in Congress toward the passage of this legislation.
Finally, some members of Congress have talked about making the Patriot Act permanent by removing the sunset provisions contained within the bill. I want to assure you that I am opposed to the removal of the sunset provisions in the Patriot Act. I believe it is important that this law is subjected to scrutiny in the coming years and that Congress fulfills its oversight role by ensuring the Patriot Act is not used to erode the rights of our nation's citizens.
How can people buy ipods as a result when there is no ability to play the Ogg format?
No management committee us complete without at least 10 people in comittee per programmer. Oh - and conference calls where everyone talks over eachother, spitting out their requirements at the same time.
Worked on a ton of those. You in the cubicle next to me?