Climbing Mount Everest, K9, Mont Blanc and the Matterhorn all in a space of 2 months without the help of 200 carriers.
On a serious note, doing strenuous exercise in a place where there are lower levels of oxygen in the air will do wonders for your metabolism and stamina, and it will make you feel like a God down in the city.
study it's an interesting thing to put on line. The one thing that sends chills down my spine is the reactions from all religious whackos out there.
Protestant fundamentalists will start debating if it's complete, valid, canonical and whatnot. The Muslims will surely try to use it to debase Christianity further. The Catholic Church will probably not allow its followers to read it. The Mormons will.... then again, never mind the Mormons.:-D
On the bright side, at least the Jews will just shrug and say it's not Torah.
Everyone talks of crowd control and the use of weapons, but doesn't anyone here think that if you need to look at crowd control that seriously, you have failed as a nation and/or civilization?
This is a load of rubbish. I agree that licenses are shipped in excessive packaging. I've seen things like that box delivered in that way to more than one customer indeed.
However, there are probably good reasons for these practices. HP, like any company, has product numbers attached to licenses. So when you buy a license from HP, you are buying a product.
These products are "manufactured" or "assembled" in a "factory". This line of reasoning stems from the fact that HP traditionally is a Hardware Shop.
This means that if a Data Protector license is ordered with part number B6951BA, that item is taken from the stock/warehouse and sent to the customer. This is very probably why they come in boxes. Ever wonder why every item in IKEA comes in a separate box? Same deal here.
Now we are not completely behind the times. If a customer so desires, he can now order certain software licenses for e-delivery, which is akin to the e-tickets you get from airlines. In the case of Data Protector, you could order B6951BAE instead, which is the same license for e-delivery.
Apart from this, numerous HP employees have been discussing this subject within HP. People like myself and other individuals from the Software branch have pointed out this is a wasteful approach. And judging by the brand spanking new e-delivery option and certain other efforts within HP, I see that this is actually worked on for SoftWare.
So it has Diddley to do with unhappy employees, drones, zombies and all of that poppycock. It's a simple matter of order handling, product numbering and logistics.
Probably the costs that are associated with a radical change of this system are quite high, because it's likely that many changes need to be made in databases, order systems, processes and procedures.
As said, I have seen indications this is being worked on, but one has to remember we are a company the size of a small country, and that makes it a little more difficult to maneuver than a one man company.
Just my USD 0.0126. This reaction is in no way shape or form tied to the policies, views and mission of my employer and should be treated as strictly personal, blah blah blah blah. You know the drill.
So you didn't read the specs and got disappointed with the product when you read them after the fact. Needless to say, this makes the product and therefore the manufacturer bad.
Interesting line of reasoning. Next time I buy a screw driver to put me some nails into a wooden beam and find out a hammer would have done a better job, I'll sue the screw driver manufacturer. I won't go back to the store to try and exchange it, I'll just get very upset at the manufacturer.
In this particular case, you bought a product that behaves differently from what you expected, for whatever reason that might be. The prudent course of action would be to simply put the unit back in the box and return it. Most countries / retailers offer some kind of *-day money back guarantee.
If your retailer doesn't want to play ball, you can always pick up the phone and give the Customer Relations team in your local country a call. They will listen to your complaint and try to work with you to solve it to your satisfaction.
Now if you come back to me and tell me you've exhausted all those options and you still have the complaint, then you have a valid point about HP as a company.
Needless to say, you could message me at chris[dot]winter[at]hp[dot]com if you are dissatisfied and I can see if I can do anything for you.
Mind you, my help comes on a best-effort basis since I am in no way, shape or form affiliated with our printing products.
The fact that in the US the units are NTSC and in Europe the units are PAL would stop you. Not because any TV/Receiver can't handle both signals, but because having a PAL system makes it mandatory to either crack it (chip) or to import PAL titles at 45-70 Euros a pop henceforth.
Not many Americans would like to dance to that tune, now would they?
> I refused to send an SMS for 15-20 years until I finally got hold of a phone with a qwerty keyboard,
That's just plain stupid. I have never (and probably will never own) owned a phone with a full QWERTY keyboard, and I've been sending SMSes that are completely grammatically correct and spelled properly for the last ~12 years. The input method is no excuse. Similarly, I do not converse in "IM-language" on MSN or Jabber.
Like my dear mother used to say: "Als iedereen in de sloot springt hoef jij het nog niet te doen." which loosely translates to "If everyone jumps into the ditch, you don't have to."
I have to second that motion. This article was of abysmal quality, but then again Forrester.... Pffff... I had a girlfriend once that worked for Forrester's branch office in Amsterdam and I have never met so many incompetent bags of wind in the same space ever before. They did employ hot women though. One of them wore a cat-suit for Halloween that was quite.... Inspirational.
Anyway, I have never seen anything emanating from the likes of Forrester or Gartner that actually had any bearing on Life, The Universe and The Rest insofar they weren't taken on by C*O's and made into self-fulfilling prophecies.
> The end result of such experimentation with human genomic material is the trivialization of the human person.
Funny you should mention that. The main problem with this planet is the fact that humans don't see themselves as a trivial part of the cosmos.
Too many of us put a lot of stock in faiths (be they Jewish, Christian or Islamic) that tell us that we have an imaginary friend called God, Jahweh or Allah who created this world specifically for us and who cares for us only.
The extreme solipsism this breeds is the direct cause of too much suffering, death and destruction to even get into in this reply to your rather whimsical post. All the things you mentioned, the holocaust, the slavery, the sweat shops and the racism is based on this solipsism. The notion that "Only I am the true Human here" facilitated the callousness towards other "lesser" human beings.
I rather think the human race would do well to remember at all times that we are an infinitesimally small and rather quite irrelevant part of this Universe. And yes, human beings should be treated like animals. In the sense that they should be respected and not unnecessarily tortured or maimed.
Mind you, I do eat meat, and I'm not advertising Veganism or such silliness. Because I'm an omnivore. But it don't mean I don't respect what I eat and where it came from.
I am mad about the Kossovans and Muslims that got slaughtered down there. I am mad about the fact that the US put Saddam Hussein in the saddle in the first place, and that they reversed their position on his rule on some trumped up charge, then proceeded to kill over a million Iraqi's in the last five years.
I am mad about many things the US have been up to in recent history, and I look at the collapsing dollar, housing market and super-powerdom with a certain amount of glee.
I am sick and tired of the US "winning wars" without American Casualties while ignoring the suffering, death and destruction they wage on the people they are liberating. They play the same ball game in Israel: The last Lebanon war had "150 casualties" while they did kill 1750 Lebanese.
I turn on the news where the IDF kill "Two armed terrorists" in Gaza at 0900. Then at 1100, they turn into "two armed men". At 1500 they turn into "two unknown individuals" and then at 2300 they mention that "regrettably two civilians" were shot. Mind you, same two dudes.
Calling a judge "fascist" because she rules that ""the United States has no right to interfere with the judicial processes of another nation's courts"? That's bullshit. If the US hadn't been interfering in the judicial process and the balance of power in other sovereign nations in the first place, Saddam's murderous regime hadn't existed.
She is 100% right in that statement. Your right to interfere in other sovereign nations extends to what you see with your eyes closed: Nothing. If you've got some beef with any country, you can take it to the UN or the international courts for human rights. You don't unilaterally decide to invade, corrupt or sabotage countries all over this globe.
And this is not just aimed at the States. Russia / USSR didn't have that right. Neither did Germany, France, the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Japan and China in their day. Or the Ottoman empire, or the RC Church, or the Vikings and Romans before them. It's just that the US are the biggest perps right now.
I've made this comment before and I'll make it again. You are, by the way, more than completely right.
The Gas prices that the Americans are up in arms about right now are cheaper than in any country I have visited to date. $4 per gallon is NOTHING. Try 1.60 Euros per Liter. Do the math and STFU about gas prices next time, please.
I see a lot of people talking about the sturdiness of said fabric, but noone mentions that it's some space-age stuff they're slapping on there, on a metal frame, laced with carbon for extra strengthening.
Come on guys! Zee Germans are building the thing! I'm relatively sure they'll deliver a solid product. They *ALWAYS* do.
Paying for the national Debt through the Gas Pump? When I was in California recently, I payed some four dollars for a gallon of gas. And I laughed my ass off because it's NOTHING! You people are funny with your "Gas prices are affecting daily life" billboards.
I can't even f#$%ng remember when I last saw gas that cheap in Europe and / or Israel. Think about it. That's roughly a dollar.five per liter. One dollar five per liter means roughly 70 Euro cents per liter. Damn. In most parts of Europe you pay 1.50/1.60 Euros per liter of gas. This includes Israel, at around 8 shekel. Granted, US fuel is of lower quality (87 octane rather than our 95 and 98), but still...
And if you still think gas prices are too high, I got one word for you: Compact. The rental agency had a "mid-size" for me. A chevvy impala which could house a small indian tribe. Compact in the US is a mid-size family car everywhere else.
Not happy with the gas price? Don't buy a four ton truck that guzzles five gallons to the mile then. If all of y'all would invest less in pick up trucks with "In God we Trust" stickers on the back, you might find your gas prices quite agreeable.
Indeed. Look at Norway. They do all of that, and vowed to be a carbon neutral state by 2020. THat's an aggressive goal if anything.
The Norwegians make a fair bit of money on oil, but the oil company is state-owned, and is one of Norway's top investors in renewable energy research because they realize it's the only way forward once the damned stuff is actually all used up.
I get very irritated by these market-proponents that claim "treehuggers" are responsible for the economic woes of the US. In the Netherlands, one of the parties that had the most solid economic planning in their manifesto for the 2002 elections were, funnily enough, the environmentalists. They were gunning for economic growth, fewer emissions and more conservation of nature in Holland all at the same time.
From my perspective it is about time the world started paying attention to people with sound messages like that, because if we'll succeed in making this planet uninhabitable for humans one day, the shit will really hit the fan. For us, humans. Not for the planet itself. It will keep spinning long after we're all dead and decayed.
I second that motion. In Europe, the Governmental banks had to intervene in order to keep the same crisis from hitting the EU. Slowly but surely, the US mantra of "the market will fix anything" is eroding. It just goes to show that you need a fair bit of regulation in the financial sector (as in any sector) because the market will ultimately fall victim to stupid greed and short term thinking.
The funny thing is that TFA also mentions an interesting tidbit which is preposterous:
"We're seeing companies ignore their largest market simply because they can make a greater profit elsewhere"
Now I've worked for HP for the past twelve years. I assume everyone knows that HP is from Palo Alto originally, and a very, very solid American company. Now since 1996 already the EMEA region has been responsible for 42% or more of the total HP revenue in the world, followed by The Americas and then APJ. Since China and India are ramping up economically, it wouldn't surprise me if the US is now competing for that second spot with the APJ region.
This notion is not just something that lives inside of large corporations like HP, but can easily be verified on Da Innerweb. If you add up the Gross National Product of member-state countries of the EU from numbers you find on CIA World Factbook, or if you simply look at wikis or reports on this, you will see that the EU has a GDP that is 15% higher than the US. Now since the US are ~300 million and the EU are ~400 million people, the GDP per capita is still a bit lower than the US', but this is also due to the fact that the newer member states such as Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic, Slovenia and Slovakia are all former Warsaw Pact members who still have a bit of growing to de economically.
To cut a long story short, in 2006 the EU was already putting more value out there than the US. And the decreasing value of the Dollar might be good for the US' export position, but the bottom line is that the US are no longer the biggest market on the planet. It hasn't been. For years.
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Climbing Mount Everest, K9, Mont Blanc and the Matterhorn all in a space of 2 months without the help of 200 carriers.
On a serious note, doing strenuous exercise in a place where there are lower levels of oxygen in the air will do wonders for your metabolism and stamina, and it will make you feel like a God down in the city.
As long as you don't live in La Paz, that is.
Are you telling me that you work in an office that doesn't offer minimal services such as a shower, relaxation room, squash court and sauna?
Hm. You must not work for HP Sweden then.
Why on earth?!?!? Nobody in this forum seems to think Silicone is an excellent Latex replacement.
I'm amazed at the seriousness of this thread. It says something about the demographic inside this topic that somehow disturbs me.
Technically speaking Semantics is about the meaning of a given word or sign. Therefore proper casing is not about semantics.
Like so many other Nazis, you're misinformed.
.... I always thought that in Communist China, internet paid for YOU!
study it's an interesting thing to put on line. The one thing that sends chills down my spine is the reactions from all religious whackos out there.
Protestant fundamentalists will start debating if it's complete, valid, canonical and whatnot. The Muslims will surely try to use it to debase Christianity further. The Catholic Church will probably not allow its followers to read it. The Mormons will.... then again, never mind the Mormons. :-D
On the bright side, at least the Jews will just shrug and say it's not Torah.
Everyone talks of crowd control and the use of weapons, but doesn't anyone here think that if you need to look at crowd control that seriously, you have failed as a nation and/or civilization?
This is a load of rubbish. I agree that licenses are shipped in excessive packaging. I've seen things like that box delivered in that way to more than one customer indeed.
However, there are probably good reasons for these practices. HP, like any company, has product numbers attached to licenses. So when you buy a license from HP, you are buying a product.
These products are "manufactured" or "assembled" in a "factory". This line of reasoning stems from the fact that HP traditionally is a Hardware Shop.
This means that if a Data Protector license is ordered with part number B6951BA, that item is taken from the stock/warehouse and sent to the customer. This is very probably why they come in boxes. Ever wonder why every item in IKEA comes in a separate box? Same deal here.
Now we are not completely behind the times. If a customer so desires, he can now order certain software licenses for e-delivery, which is akin to the e-tickets you get from airlines. In the case of Data Protector, you could order B6951BAE instead, which is the same license for e-delivery.
Apart from this, numerous HP employees have been discussing this subject within HP. People like myself and other individuals from the Software branch have pointed out this is a wasteful approach. And judging by the brand spanking new e-delivery option and certain other efforts within HP, I see that this is actually worked on for SoftWare.
So it has Diddley to do with unhappy employees, drones, zombies and all of that poppycock. It's a simple matter of order handling, product numbering and logistics.
Probably the costs that are associated with a radical change of this system are quite high, because it's likely that many changes need to be made in databases, order systems, processes and procedures.
As said, I have seen indications this is being worked on, but one has to remember we are a company the size of a small country, and that makes it a little more difficult to maneuver than a one man company.
Just my USD 0.0126. This reaction is in no way shape or form tied to the policies, views and mission of my employer and should be treated as strictly personal, blah blah blah blah. You know the drill.
So you didn't read the specs and got disappointed with the product when you read them after the fact. Needless to say, this makes the product and therefore the manufacturer bad.
Interesting line of reasoning. Next time I buy a screw driver to put me some nails into a wooden beam and find out a hammer would have done a better job, I'll sue the screw driver manufacturer. I won't go back to the store to try and exchange it, I'll just get very upset at the manufacturer.
In this particular case, you bought a product that behaves differently from what you expected, for whatever reason that might be. The prudent course of action would be to simply put the unit back in the box and return it. Most countries / retailers offer some kind of *-day money back guarantee.
If your retailer doesn't want to play ball, you can always pick up the phone and give the Customer Relations team in your local country a call. They will listen to your complaint and try to work with you to solve it to your satisfaction.
Now if you come back to me and tell me you've exhausted all those options and you still have the complaint, then you have a valid point about HP as a company.
Needless to say, you could message me at chris[dot]winter[at]hp[dot]com if you are dissatisfied and I can see if I can do anything for you.
Mind you, my help comes on a best-effort basis since I am in no way, shape or form affiliated with our printing products.
Excellent linked article. The most intelligent thing I've read about consoles in a long, long time.
I don't have mod points, if I did I'd give 'm freely.
The fact that in the US the units are NTSC and in Europe the units are PAL would stop you. Not because any TV/Receiver can't handle both signals, but because having a PAL system makes it mandatory to either crack it (chip) or to import PAL titles at 45-70 Euros a pop henceforth.
Not many Americans would like to dance to that tune, now would they?
Erm....
USD 0.02 is now worth only USD 0.0126 compared to the Euro, and it fares worse still against the New Israeli Shekel. :-D
> I refused to send an SMS for 15-20 years until I finally got hold of a phone with a qwerty keyboard,
That's just plain stupid. I have never (and probably will never own) owned a phone with a full QWERTY keyboard, and I've been sending SMSes that are completely grammatically correct and spelled properly for the last ~12 years. The input method is no excuse. Similarly, I do not converse in "IM-language" on MSN or Jabber.
Like my dear mother used to say: "Als iedereen in de sloot springt hoef jij het nog niet te doen." which loosely translates to "If everyone jumps into the ditch, you don't have to."
Cracking lame jokes and offering solutions to most of the worlds problems for free, just like the rest of us.
The original poster can't help it that most of /. didn't see the delicious sarcasm in his post.
I for one welcome our MicroSoft-Loving, IE toting overlord.
They can't televise it!
The First Rule of Chess Club is You Do Not Talk about Chess Club!
I have to second that motion. This article was of abysmal quality, but then again Forrester.... Pffff... I had a girlfriend once that worked for Forrester's branch office in Amsterdam and I have never met so many incompetent bags of wind in the same space ever before. They did employ hot women though. One of them wore a cat-suit for Halloween that was quite.... Inspirational.
Anyway, I have never seen anything emanating from the likes of Forrester or Gartner that actually had any bearing on Life, The Universe and The Rest insofar they weren't taken on by C*O's and made into self-fulfilling prophecies.
Bloody idiots.
> The end result of such experimentation with human genomic material is the trivialization of the human person.
Funny you should mention that. The main problem with this planet is the fact that humans don't see themselves as a trivial part of the cosmos.
Too many of us put a lot of stock in faiths (be they Jewish, Christian or Islamic) that tell us that we have an imaginary friend called God, Jahweh or Allah who created this world specifically for us and who cares for us only.
The extreme solipsism this breeds is the direct cause of too much suffering, death and destruction to even get into in this reply to your rather whimsical post. All the things you mentioned, the holocaust, the slavery, the sweat shops and the racism is based on this solipsism. The notion that "Only I am the true Human here" facilitated the callousness towards other "lesser" human beings.
I rather think the human race would do well to remember at all times that we are an infinitesimally small and rather quite irrelevant part of this Universe. And yes, human beings should be treated like animals. In the sense that they should be respected and not unnecessarily tortured or maimed.
Mind you, I do eat meat, and I'm not advertising Veganism or such silliness. Because I'm an omnivore. But it don't mean I don't respect what I eat and where it came from.
It's just that we *ARE* trivial. Deal with it.
I am mad about the Kossovans and Muslims that got slaughtered down there. I am mad about the fact that the US put Saddam Hussein in the saddle in the first place, and that they reversed their position on his rule on some trumped up charge, then proceeded to kill over a million Iraqi's in the last five years.
I am mad about many things the US have been up to in recent history, and I look at the collapsing dollar, housing market and super-powerdom with a certain amount of glee.
I am sick and tired of the US "winning wars" without American Casualties while ignoring the suffering, death and destruction they wage on the people they are liberating. They play the same ball game in Israel: The last Lebanon war had "150 casualties" while they did kill 1750 Lebanese.
I turn on the news where the IDF kill "Two armed terrorists" in Gaza at 0900. Then at 1100, they turn into "two armed men". At 1500 they turn into "two unknown individuals" and then at 2300 they mention that "regrettably two civilians" were shot. Mind you, same two dudes.
Calling a judge "fascist" because she rules that ""the United States has no right to interfere with the judicial processes of another nation's courts"? That's bullshit. If the US hadn't been interfering in the judicial process and the balance of power in other sovereign nations in the first place, Saddam's murderous regime hadn't existed.
She is 100% right in that statement. Your right to interfere in other sovereign nations extends to what you see with your eyes closed: Nothing. If you've got some beef with any country, you can take it to the UN or the international courts for human rights. You don't unilaterally decide to invade, corrupt or sabotage countries all over this globe.
And this is not just aimed at the States. Russia / USSR didn't have that right. Neither did Germany, France, the UK, the Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Japan and China in their day. Or the Ottoman empire, or the RC Church, or the Vikings and Romans before them. It's just that the US are the biggest perps right now.
I've made this comment before and I'll make it again. You are, by the way, more than completely right.
The Gas prices that the Americans are up in arms about right now are cheaper than in any country I have visited to date. $4 per gallon is NOTHING. Try 1.60 Euros per Liter. Do the math and STFU about gas prices next time, please.
Or buy a prius or something.
Didn't anyone RTFA?
I see a lot of people talking about the sturdiness of said fabric, but noone mentions that it's some space-age stuff they're slapping on there, on a metal frame, laced with carbon for extra strengthening.
Come on guys! Zee Germans are building the thing! I'm relatively sure they'll deliver a solid product. They *ALWAYS* do.
Paying for the national Debt through the Gas Pump? When I was in California recently, I payed some four dollars for a gallon of gas. And I laughed my ass off because it's NOTHING! You people are funny with your "Gas prices are affecting daily life" billboards.
.five per liter. One dollar five per liter means roughly 70 Euro cents per liter. Damn. In most parts of Europe you pay 1.50/1.60 Euros per liter of gas. This includes Israel, at around 8 shekel. Granted, US fuel is of lower quality (87 octane rather than our 95 and 98), but still...
I can't even f#$%ng remember when I last saw gas that cheap in Europe and / or Israel. Think about it. That's roughly a dollar
And if you still think gas prices are too high, I got one word for you: Compact. The rental agency had a "mid-size" for me. A chevvy impala which could house a small indian tribe. Compact in the US is a mid-size family car everywhere else.
Not happy with the gas price? Don't buy a four ton truck that guzzles five gallons to the mile then. If all of y'all would invest less in pick up trucks with "In God we Trust" stickers on the back, you might find your gas prices quite agreeable.
Damn fools.
How did you know that owning a Wii keeps me from working? I was trying to keep it a secret....
Don't worry. Europe will help you if the bottom falls out of the Dollar entirely. We're still insanely grateful for the Marshall Plan.
Indeed. Look at Norway. They do all of that, and vowed to be a carbon neutral state by 2020. THat's an aggressive goal if anything.
The Norwegians make a fair bit of money on oil, but the oil company is state-owned, and is one of Norway's top investors in renewable energy research because they realize it's the only way forward once the damned stuff is actually all used up.
I get very irritated by these market-proponents that claim "treehuggers" are responsible for the economic woes of the US. In the Netherlands, one of the parties that had the most solid economic planning in their manifesto for the 2002 elections were, funnily enough, the environmentalists. They were gunning for economic growth, fewer emissions and more conservation of nature in Holland all at the same time.
From my perspective it is about time the world started paying attention to people with sound messages like that, because if we'll succeed in making this planet uninhabitable for humans one day, the shit will really hit the fan. For us, humans. Not for the planet itself. It will keep spinning long after we're all dead and decayed.
I second that motion. In Europe, the Governmental banks had to intervene in order to keep the same crisis from hitting the EU. Slowly but surely, the US mantra of "the market will fix anything" is eroding. It just goes to show that you need a fair bit of regulation in the financial sector (as in any sector) because the market will ultimately fall victim to stupid greed and short term thinking.
The funny thing is that TFA also mentions an interesting tidbit which is preposterous:
"We're seeing companies ignore their largest market simply because they can make a greater profit elsewhere"
Now I've worked for HP for the past twelve years. I assume everyone knows that HP is from Palo Alto originally, and a very, very solid American company. Now since 1996 already the EMEA region has been responsible for 42% or more of the total HP revenue in the world, followed by The Americas and then APJ. Since China and India are ramping up economically, it wouldn't surprise me if the US is now competing for that second spot with the APJ region.
This notion is not just something that lives inside of large corporations like HP, but can easily be verified on Da Innerweb. If you add up the Gross National Product of member-state countries of the EU from numbers you find on CIA World Factbook, or if you simply look at wikis or reports on this, you will see that the EU has a GDP that is 15% higher than the US. Now since the US are ~300 million and the EU are ~400 million people, the GDP per capita is still a bit lower than the US', but this is also due to the fact that the newer member states such as Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Czech Republic, Slovenia and Slovakia are all former Warsaw Pact members who still have a bit of growing to de economically.
To cut a long story short, in 2006 the EU was already putting more value out there than the US. And the decreasing value of the Dollar might be good for the US' export position, but the bottom line is that the US are no longer the biggest market on the planet. It hasn't been. For years.