Fortunately legacy hooks for IE are easy to manage. However I think Firefox became popular not because coders were trying to use compliant pages but because it was better. This in turn helped coders write more compliant pages and forced Microsoft into releasing a more compliant browser (IE 7) as IE 6 was looking embarassing.
I'm sceptical over coders' ability to make visitors do anything - no one who has any business sense would write a perfectly compliant page that didn't work in IE 6 as they automatifcally chop out (at current figures) 30% of the market or something like that.
mod_perl is just fine - not sure what you're doing to make it so flaky.
For what it is worth I've been coding with CGI::Application and Template Toolkit for the last 2 years and I'm loving it - it's really really easy to write reasonable MVC applications especially when you use DBIx::Class and the like.
You think coding standards-compliant web pages means they are going to work the same in all the major browsers, even when you make sure you specify a strict doctype?
This is misleading. Firstly, the second is dangerous driving and is subject to higher penalities than speeding, at least the speeding which you're talking about.
Deciding how dangerous an example of dangerous driving is is subjective and relying on cameras to pick it up is silly. Especially in scenarios where debris might be on a road and cars are swerving to avoid it, as happened to me the other morning.
People just slow down for the cameras on the empty road at night and speed up again afterwards, so very few get caught that way compared to the numbers speeding anyhow.
When Google first appeared I used it because it was the search engine who automatically ANDed your search terms, as opposed to shoving AND between all of your terms in Altavista or whatever. I didn't know about the pagerank thing but the results were just useful - and never went back to anything else.
The empty page was just a bonus - I was on a fast university connection at the time so had no speed worries, unlike most people in '98....
The gate is pristine...and the small fact that they are competing with Black Mesa for government dollars, something that is highly unlikely to happen under the Combine.;)
Very good point and I understood you too. But it's a fact that Google got popular because they seriously improved search performance at a time when it was pretty dire.
Google is also, by dint of being a search engine, always going to be wildly popular compared to other types of site.
But you're right anyway - websites should try to serve their visitors better and not GoogleBot. The fact is all search engine bots try to think like a human being and thus optimising for humans is a good plan anyhow.
Which bit of "the countryside" do you live in then? Obviously not mine where most normal people think it's an archaic excuse to ponce about on horses and no better than lamping.
On the other hand most people are not using Firefox either, which is totally wrong.
It still is a waste of useful time. When you're coding up your lovely drop shadows for 1% of your viewers you could be polishing the site off for the other 99%.
That's amazing as audio on FM radio has all sorts of stuff done to it before broadcast, very often including dynamic compression. In addition, tape cannot come anywhere near CD for audio quality, it's a complete non-starter. Dynamic range and frequency response are nothing like the same, plus what the Dolby noise reduction system does to tape is horrible unless you get your tape read heads adjusted right. I can see your point about mp3, but what listening environment do you have here? Headphones, right?
The best way to make money was ALWAYS the station wagon, making sure you were totally kitted out and then being quick with picking up the ghosts on the way into Zuul while you got to teh next place late in the game. After that it just became a little boring. I got to $128,000 and stopped playing but up until that point it was awesome.
Although in those days the sound was amazing. The speech bit really blew me away as a kid. Listening to the Spectrum version made me realise how lucky I was to be a Commodore owner.
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I can play minesweeper without being an administrator...(lucky old me)
So the US states that outlaw guns are proto-dictatorships?
Fortunately legacy hooks for IE are easy to manage. However I think Firefox became popular not because coders were trying to use compliant pages but because it was better. This in turn helped coders write more compliant pages and forced Microsoft into releasing a more compliant browser (IE 7) as IE 6 was looking embarassing.
I'm sceptical over coders' ability to make visitors do anything - no one who has any business sense would write a perfectly compliant page that didn't work in IE 6 as they automatifcally chop out (at current figures) 30% of the market or something like that.
It is entirely possible, using Microsoft's conditional comments, to write IE6-specific CSS without affecting any other web browsers.
If you're using some "safe" subset of standards you're going to have to leave out float and thats going to cripple you in quite a few ways.
mod_perl is just fine - not sure what you're doing to make it so flaky.
For what it is worth I've been coding with CGI::Application and Template Toolkit for the last 2 years and I'm loving it - it's really really easy to write reasonable MVC applications especially when you use DBIx::Class and the like.
You think coding standards-compliant web pages means they are going to work the same in all the major browsers, even when you make sure you specify a strict doctype?
That's unfortunately not true.
Isn't that a type of French shop?
This is misleading. Firstly, the second is dangerous driving and is subject to higher penalities than speeding, at least the speeding which you're talking about.
Deciding how dangerous an example of dangerous driving is is subjective and relying on cameras to pick it up is silly. Especially in scenarios where debris might be on a road and cars are swerving to avoid it, as happened to me the other morning.
People just slow down for the cameras on the empty road at night and speed up again afterwards, so very few get caught that way compared to the numbers speeding anyhow.
Had they put the sound capabilities of the C64 into the Beeb I think it might have been nearly perfect.
But just think how much better you could have been had you learned to read earlier. You might know a few extra languages by now. ;)
This wasn't workable because architectures had to change for there to be significant differences between console revisions.
Lots of music is, true. Most pop music is. But not all.
When Google first appeared I used it because it was the search engine who automatically ANDed your search terms, as opposed to shoving AND between all of your terms in Altavista or whatever.
I didn't know about the pagerank thing but the results were just useful - and never went back to anything else.
The empty page was just a bonus - I was on a fast university connection at the time so had no speed worries, unlike most people in '98....
The gate is pristine...and the small fact that they are competing with Black Mesa for government dollars, something that is highly unlikely to happen under the Combine. ;)
Very good point and I understood you too. But it's a fact that Google got popular because they seriously improved search performance at a time when it was pretty dire.
Google is also, by dint of being a search engine, always going to be wildly popular compared to other types of site.
But you're right anyway - websites should try to serve their visitors better and not GoogleBot. The fact is all search engine bots try to think like a human being and thus optimising for humans is a good plan anyhow.
Which bit of "the countryside" do you live in then? Obviously not mine where most normal people think it's an archaic excuse to ponce about on horses and no better than lamping.
On the other hand most people are not using Firefox either, which is totally wrong.
Or they were referring to the other text-only browser, known as Links...
It still is a waste of useful time. When you're coding up your lovely drop shadows for 1% of your viewers you could be polishing the site off for the other 99%.
That's amazing as audio on FM radio has all sorts of stuff done to it before broadcast, very often including dynamic compression.
In addition, tape cannot come anywhere near CD for audio quality, it's a complete non-starter. Dynamic range and frequency response are nothing like the same, plus what the Dolby noise reduction system does to tape is horrible unless you get your tape read heads adjusted right.
I can see your point about mp3, but what listening environment do you have here? Headphones, right?
The best way to make money was ALWAYS the station wagon, making sure you were totally kitted out and then being quick with picking up the ghosts on the way into Zuul while you got to teh next place late in the game.
After that it just became a little boring. I got to $128,000 and stopped playing but up until that point it was awesome.
Although in those days the sound was amazing. The speech bit really blew me away as a kid.
Listening to the Spectrum version made me realise how lucky I was to be a Commodore owner.
Material. Hardest material. It's not a metal.
If you told someone this they wouldn't believe you. They'd think it was too silly to ever happen on such a successful site...
Tetris left me going around in a daze wondering how to get the blocks in my head lining up.
Another InfoCom one. I played Planetfall which was great fun.