"When we can't yet explain why the universe is the way it is on a fundamental (quantum?) level, *THAT's* when you can trot out the "God did it"s. "
No. That's exactly what ID does today. Whenever science doesn't have a quick and ready answer for something then the creationists automatically attribute it to "god." When we can't explain why something is the way it is it simply means there is not enough data or technique to discover the answer. It does not mean that some mythical being created the thing in question.
You had it right at first. To be legit ID will have to complete the cycle of observe, hypothesize and test until they've gathered enough data to form a--you guessed it--theory.
Maybe it's just my read but I do believe that "holding up a beer can at a party" is really just a placeholder phrase for all the jackass things people post of themselves on the internet. In the US it has become apparent to me that mostly what counts is image. From products to politics it is not necessarily a good product (only) that wins out, it is a product that has a good image with the public.
As my mother-in-law says, if you're alive you're in business. So don't be a dolt and publicly post stuff that could have a deleterious effect on your image.
And one less of you would make it even better. It's odd that someone like you--with the empathy of a mollusk--would even pretend to care that he committed a selfish act.
You don't even need such drastic examples to show the harm of superstitious thinking. Check out www.whatstheharm.net for a list of actual harm and damage that comes from magical thinking.
Why not consult the DSM-IV for an actual definition of addiction, as arrived at by thousands of doctors interviewing millions of people and researching the topic? It's amazing to me that people who consider themselves experts in one area (technology) refuse to see that other disciplines have put in as much work figuring out their corner of the world.
Consider the following points from aforementioned diagnostic manual. These relate more directly to substance abuse but it's the same reward centers in the brain that are being stimulated: 1. TOLERANCE 2. WITHDRAWAL 3. LARGE AMOUNTS OVER A LONG PERIOD 4. UNSUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO CUT DOWN 5. TIME SPENT IN OBTAINING THE SUBSTANCE REPLACES
SOCIAL, OCCUPATIONAL OR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES 6. CONTINUED USE DESPITE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES
Just because someone spends a lot of time gaming doesn't mean he is addicted. But especially note #6. That one alone is a key component of addiction.
Personally, I'm fine with lots of people playing lots of video games. It just means that the gyms, trails and museums are that much less crowded.
With such strong public feeling against patent protection it is
no wonder that it took Switzerland--a conservative country where
national referenda often determine important policy decisions--
almost half a century to enact its first national patent law in 1888.
The law was so limited in scope, however, that its usefulness for
patent protection was at best dubious. Indeed, successful
lobbying by the Swiss chemical industry resulted in the 1888
national patent law protecting only inventions that could be
represented by mechanical models. Two decades and some
international pressure were necessary for the legislature to rectify
this Swiss anomaly. One explanation for this long and laborious
legislative history can be found in the Swiss constitutional
requirements. Switzerland is a federal state with a strict separation
of powers between the confederation and the cantons, and a patent
law on a national scale could not be enacted by the federal
government in the absence of constitutionally granted authority.
A footnote to the above states "that in 1907 the Swiss legislature enacted a law that
eliminated the "mechanical model" requirement and extended protection to chemical
processes after pressure from Germany, the biggest market for Swiss chemical products."
I'm just reading Michael Shermer's book The Mind Of The Market in which he points out that the Dutch system was patentless from 1869 to 1912 and the Swiss system was patentless from 1850 to 1907. Apparently not only were they not hurt by this lack of control, but they also in fact "prospered more than ever before."
It's an interesting fact, but it does beg the question of why they went to patents if in fact it was successful. I supposed lobbying by potential patent owners could be the answer, but it's interesting that for 43 and 57 years respectively these two countries had no patents whatsoever.
The problem is not that the US is not a 'hub' but rather that the US is lately seen as a place that is not a safe place to keep your data (for US citizens as well, actually). It's bad business.
30-40%? I'm not sure what kind of business experience you have but 30-40% is hardly excessive. When I worked in a plain old drugstore we marked up, on average, 30%. Batteries, however, were about 300%. You'd be better off spending your time complaining about overpriced Duracell products. This is all aside from the fact that you don't even know what Apple's markup is.
I find it amazing that most people on Slashdot still do not understand the Apple business model. They are a hardware company that makes great software to support their product and to promote sales. What is wrong with that? As a Mac user I hope the clone company goes down in flames because it means nothing but bad news for a product that I like quite a bit. If third parties are allowed to make Mac clones then either Apple software will start to get really expensive or Apple will go down the tubes.
The are more whiners about whiny Mac fanboys than there are whiny Mac fanboys. The rest of you have your Windows machines and Linux boxes so why do you even care about Apple?
Being a mindless cheerleader for capitalism is just as bad as being a communist. Capitalism has its evil side as well, you know, and many of the profits are made at the expense of moral sense. Greed is never good. Rational self interest is.
Not only that, but Phoenix has a little weather station on board called the Telltale project. And if you look at this page you can see the weather reports for where Phoenix is on a sol by sol basis. None of them show windy conditions, although it looks like there is data missing for a few sols.
I must be missing the point. Why would the students who aren't hungry want any cake at all? Also, is this the cake that someone left out in the rain? If so, do those students who are really hungry suddenly have a quelled appetite because soggy cake is not so appealing? Is this cake of which you speak really a metaphor or something?
I've heard complaints about the Finder before, but I have never been able to understand them. I put my Finder preference to column mode and then just wheel around the file system using the arrow keys. It is very fast and visually comprehensible. Combine that with application switching using the Cmd-tab key shortcut and I can get around very quickly to anything I need. I must be missing the point here.
perhaps you should stop treating your phone like a horseshoe and more like the expensive electronic gadget that is. If the iPhone had a plastic screen I wouldn't have wanted one. The glass is superior to a scratched up crappy looking piece of plastic
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"When we can't yet explain why the universe is the way it is on a fundamental (quantum?) level, *THAT's* when you can trot out the "God did it"s. "
No. That's exactly what ID does today. Whenever science doesn't have a quick and ready answer for something then the creationists automatically attribute it to "god." When we can't explain why something is the way it is it simply means there is not enough data or technique to discover the answer. It does not mean that some mythical being created the thing in question.
You had it right at first. To be legit ID will have to complete the cycle of observe, hypothesize and test until they've gathered enough data to form a--you guessed it--theory.
Quite the opposite! It's them vs. us.
Maybe it's just my read but I do believe that "holding up a beer can at a party" is really just a placeholder phrase for all the jackass things people post of themselves on the internet. In the US it has become apparent to me that mostly what counts is image. From products to politics it is not necessarily a good product (only) that wins out, it is a product that has a good image with the public.
As my mother-in-law says, if you're alive you're in business. So don't be a dolt and publicly post stuff that could have a deleterious effect on your image.
"...only that way can we ensure that nobodies feelings are hurt..."
That would be nobody's. The way you used it here was in the plural form, as in 'a bunch of nobodies.' Oh, never mind. You got it right.
So, now we know. Karl Rove reads Slashdot.
And one less of you would make it even better. It's odd that someone like you--with the empathy of a mollusk--would even pretend to care that he committed a selfish act.
You don't even need such drastic examples to show the harm of superstitious thinking. Check out www.whatstheharm.net for a list of actual harm and damage that comes from magical thinking.
Why not consult the DSM-IV for an actual definition of addiction, as arrived at by thousands of doctors interviewing millions of people and researching the topic? It's amazing to me that people who consider themselves experts in one area (technology) refuse to see that other disciplines have put in as much work figuring out their corner of the world.
Consider the following points from aforementioned diagnostic manual. These relate more directly to substance abuse but it's the same reward centers in the brain that are being stimulated:
1. TOLERANCE
2. WITHDRAWAL
3. LARGE AMOUNTS OVER A LONG PERIOD
4. UNSUCCESSFUL EFFORTS TO CUT DOWN
5. TIME SPENT IN OBTAINING THE SUBSTANCE REPLACES
SOCIAL, OCCUPATIONAL OR RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES
6. CONTINUED USE DESPITE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES
Just because someone spends a lot of time gaming doesn't mean he is addicted. But especially note #6. That one alone is a key component of addiction.
Personally, I'm fine with lots of people playing lots of video games. It just means that the gyms, trails and museums are that much less crowded.
It sounds an awful lot like you're talking about a traditionally built house here.
A footnote to the above states "that in 1907 the Swiss legislature enacted a law that eliminated the "mechanical model" requirement and extended protection to chemical processes after pressure from Germany, the biggest market for Swiss chemical products."
I'm just reading Michael Shermer's book The Mind Of The Market in which he points out that the Dutch system was patentless from 1869 to 1912 and the Swiss system was patentless from 1850 to 1907. Apparently not only were they not hurt by this lack of control, but they also in fact "prospered more than ever before."
It's an interesting fact, but it does beg the question of why they went to patents if in fact it was successful. I supposed lobbying by potential patent owners could be the answer, but it's interesting that for 43 and 57 years respectively these two countries had no patents whatsoever.
"Maybe that's why Repub's selected an air-headed pageant queen ditz for VP...easier for the puppetmasters to control."
It would be a 180 change of tactic. Last time the VP was the puppetmaster.
The problem is not that the US is not a 'hub' but rather that the US is lately seen as a place that is not a safe place to keep your data (for US citizens as well, actually). It's bad business.
30-40%? I'm not sure what kind of business experience you have but 30-40% is hardly excessive. When I worked in a plain old drugstore we marked up, on average, 30%. Batteries, however, were about 300%. You'd be better off spending your time complaining about overpriced Duracell products. This is all aside from the fact that you don't even know what Apple's markup is.
I find it amazing that most people on Slashdot still do not understand the Apple business model. They are a hardware company that makes great software to support their product and to promote sales. What is wrong with that? As a Mac user I hope the clone company goes down in flames because it means nothing but bad news for a product that I like quite a bit. If third parties are allowed to make Mac clones then either Apple software will start to get really expensive or Apple will go down the tubes.
The are more whiners about whiny Mac fanboys than there are whiny Mac fanboys. The rest of you have your Windows machines and Linux boxes so why do you even care about Apple?
Indeed. Remarkable insightful for someone who has "Fanboy" in his username. :-)
You know, they will be searching you. You don't want to give them any ideas.
Being a mindless cheerleader for capitalism is just as bad as being a communist. Capitalism has its evil side as well, you know, and many of the profits are made at the expense of moral sense. Greed is never good. Rational self interest is.
Not only that, but Phoenix has a little weather station on board called the Telltale project. And if you look at this page you can see the weather reports for where Phoenix is on a sol by sol basis. None of them show windy conditions, although it looks like there is data missing for a few sols.
I must be missing the point. Why would the students who aren't hungry want any cake at all? Also, is this the cake that someone left out in the rain? If so, do those students who are really hungry suddenly have a quelled appetite because soggy cake is not so appealing? Is this cake of which you speak really a metaphor or something?
Followed up by an even bigger moron who removed the solar panels that he had installed on the White House.
I've heard complaints about the Finder before, but I have never been able to understand them. I put my Finder preference to column mode and then just wheel around the file system using the arrow keys. It is very fast and visually comprehensible. Combine that with application switching using the Cmd-tab key shortcut and I can get around very quickly to anything I need. I must be missing the point here.
Oh, you'd be talking about this: CLARAty
" but the fact that Pelosi isn't in support of this speaks volumes."
Yes it does. It speaks volumes about Pelosi, not about Dennis Kucinich. Pelosi has turned out to be Republican lite.
perhaps you should stop treating your phone like a horseshoe and more like the expensive electronic gadget that is. If the iPhone had a plastic screen I wouldn't have wanted one. The glass is superior to a scratched up crappy looking piece of plastic
The key word here being "retard."