Yeah, ok. I don't think you know the details. You're just speculating.
If the people in the US were paying his company in Germany for him to present then he is a contractor, working in the US.
Personally, whenever I go to the US, I stand at the border with no visa and say "yep, I'm here to attend meetings with my employer, catch up, that sort of thing" and they wave me through.
It is if you want to maintain it. If there's no-one who wants to maintain then no.
The argument has been that people want to maintain this stuff but for some reason think they are better off being separated from the kernel tree. They're not, because major changes to interfaces will get maintained in their code without them having to do it.
Con finished what he started. He produced a bunch of code and people can choose to take it or leave it. hehe, that's not the way the kernel works. If you don't wanna stick around and maintain it, they don't want it.
Yep great. Writing OpenGL code is like the non-common thing in the world.. even for non-Java programmers, for which it is even more uncommon. For the actual common tasks where CPU and IO performance are important, ya know, every normal program, Java performance just blows. Note, that's both CPU and IO.
For fuck sake, you can write OpenGL games in interpreted Basic and they're fast.
Dude, seriously, you're talking out of your ass. I'm a professional software developer. I cut code in Java, C, C++, a variety of scripting languages, along with asm and I've done some hardware design in my time. I know guys who optimize Java for a living. I've worked on research projects funded by Sun Labs trying to improve JVM performance to run code binary translated from SPARC and x86. Optimizing Java code for a specified platform is a black art. Optimizing Java code for an unspecified platform ("run anywhere") is an impossibility. Java has its strengths but performance isn't one of them.
A reboot is required only when you do a distro upgrade. Like, every 6 months. If you're rebooting any more than that then you've got something seriously wrong with your machine.
The claim that you can make a Java program run with adequate performance does not change the fact that the vast majority of Java programs available do *not* run with adequate performance.
Dude, RMS made a whole movement of zealots and encouraged the creation of billions of lines of code.. doesn't change the fact that he's a smelly hippie.
You seem to think that me saying Theo doesn't get along with others is somehow belittling his work.. it isn't.
It's belittling his ability to get along with others.
I've had a toothache for the last week (seeing the dentist tomorrow alright?) and I've been reading Slashdot every day. Must be Slashdot causing my toothache because my friend, he doesn't read Slashdot and he doesn't have a toothache.
I grew up going to the beach. Some of my earliest memories are of fun days at the beach. One thing I've never seen in the last 30 years was public lockers. It just seems like such an obvious thing to me. You go to the beach, you can't swim with your wallet in your pocket. So where do you put it? Under your towel and hope no-one steals it? Pretty much. I asked a friend who is a lifesaver once if he'd ever seen lockers available. He had, but it's pretty rare. Apparently the most common excuse is that the lockers would attract thieves. That's, umm, interesting logic.
I tell ya one thing though.. all those pig-headed people who are reluctant to upgrade their CVS servers already are even less likely to do it if OpenCVS is a success.
Dude, we're just saying for them to not re-invent CVS. There's better systems available. Move on. All the time they spend rewriting CVS to be secure they could spend auditing SVN and help more users than just themselves.
All we're saying is that we should work together instead of fragmenting all the time.
the niche in which it lives is firewall, NAT, transparent bridging So not a revision control server which sits behind a firewall and therefore doesn't need to be as secure?
Yep, I agree. It seems that the OpenBSD folks (not just Theo) think that SVN is too complicated to be secure. They want to stick with the "proven" CVS protocols and RCS file formats. And yeah, they always start from scratch because they've gotta make it BSD licensed.. and besides, it gives them a feeling of ownership.
This is a pretty common pattern. Complex == insecure to them. Which, to me, implies that secure == poverty. I like security as much as the next guy, but living in poverty because you're paranoid about security is not healthy.
I dunno about where you live, but here copyright is not something normal people think about. If my friend has a CD I like I say "hey, can you make me a copy of that?" and the answer is invariably "sure". Same with software.
The only e-books I've ever read I've gotten off people on IRC.
It's like taping shows off tv.. everyone does it, even when there were laws that technically prohibit it.
The slowness of Java is something Java programmers just accept. Unfortunately, as a result, many Java programmers just ignore the problem of performance at all. The best form of optimization is algorithmic complexity reduction.. it has nothing to do with the language you use. You can use the slowest language in the world and still get massive performance if you optimize your algorithm suitably. Thing about Freenet is they don't optimize. They're interested in slow-but-safe browsing.. so the day you see them switch from Java to something faster is the day you know that the focus has changed.
Yeah, ok. I don't think you know the details. You're just speculating.
If the people in the US were paying his company in Germany for him to present then he is a contractor, working in the US.
Personally, whenever I go to the US, I stand at the border with no visa and say "yep, I'm here to attend meetings with my employer, catch up, that sort of thing" and they wave me through.
It is if you want to maintain it. If there's no-one who wants to maintain then no.
The argument has been that people want to maintain this stuff but for some reason think they are better off being separated from the kernel tree. They're not, because major changes to interfaces will get maintained in their code without them having to do it.
Yep great. Writing OpenGL code is like the non-common thing in the world.. even for non-Java programmers, for which it is even more uncommon. For the actual common tasks where CPU and IO performance are important, ya know, every normal program, Java performance just blows. Note, that's both CPU and IO.
For fuck sake, you can write OpenGL games in interpreted Basic and they're fast.
Dude, seriously, you're talking out of your ass. I'm a professional software developer. I cut code in Java, C, C++, a variety of scripting languages, along with asm and I've done some hardware design in my time. I know guys who optimize Java for a living. I've worked on research projects funded by Sun Labs trying to improve JVM performance to run code binary translated from SPARC and x86. Optimizing Java code for a specified platform is a black art. Optimizing Java code for an unspecified platform ("run anywhere") is an impossibility. Java has its strengths but performance isn't one of them.
A reboot is required only when you do a distro upgrade. Like, every 6 months. If you're rebooting any more than that then you've got something seriously wrong with your machine.
Major vendor preinstalls Linux.. people are buying it.. all you have to contribute is negative doom-saying.
Yes. Absolutely. The point is, if you want good performance out of Java you have to be an expert.
Is it just me or does anyone else notice that whenever an AC posts on Slashdot they're a fuckin' moron?
The claim that you can make a Java program run with adequate performance does not change the fact that the vast majority of Java programs available do *not* run with adequate performance.
Keep livin' in denial.
I guarantee I can find such a sample.
Perhaps you meant a "random sample"?
Well, the best way to avoid complaints is to have no-one to complain to.
Dude, RMS made a whole movement of zealots and encouraged the creation of billions of lines of code.. doesn't change the fact that he's a smelly hippie.
You seem to think that me saying Theo doesn't get along with others is somehow belittling his work.. it isn't.
It's belittling his ability to get along with others.
I've had a toothache for the last week (seeing the dentist tomorrow alright?) and I've been reading Slashdot every day. Must be Slashdot causing my toothache because my friend, he doesn't read Slashdot and he doesn't have a toothache.
Science ftw.
Yep, and it's a lack of that law which has made it necessary to charge people to go to the small strip of beach that is still public.
Not that these are real beaches anyway. It's not quite as bad as an English beach but don't expect Bay Watch.
I grew up going to the beach. Some of my earliest memories are of fun days at the beach. One thing I've never seen in the last 30 years was public lockers. It just seems like such an obvious thing to me. You go to the beach, you can't swim with your wallet in your pocket. So where do you put it? Under your towel and hope no-one steals it? Pretty much. I asked a friend who is a lifesaver once if he'd ever seen lockers available. He had, but it's pretty rare. Apparently the most common excuse is that the lockers would attract thieves. That's, umm, interesting logic.
Then you use the CVS-to-SVN migration tool.
I tell ya one thing though.. all those pig-headed people who are reluctant to upgrade their CVS servers already are even less likely to do it if OpenCVS is a success.
Dude, we're just saying for them to not re-invent CVS. There's better systems available. Move on. All the time they spend rewriting CVS to be secure they could spend auditing SVN and help more users than just themselves.
All we're saying is that we should work together instead of fragmenting all the time.
Why is that a troll?
Yeah, figured.
Yep, I agree. It seems that the OpenBSD folks (not just Theo) think that SVN is too complicated to be secure. They want to stick with the "proven" CVS protocols and RCS file formats. And yeah, they always start from scratch because they've gotta make it BSD licensed.. and besides, it gives them a feeling of ownership.
This is a pretty common pattern. Complex == insecure to them. Which, to me, implies that secure == poverty. I like security as much as the next guy, but living in poverty because you're paranoid about security is not healthy.
Yep, cause this license ain't free enough and, besides, we don't want anything that is better than CVS.
You're a codin' machine Theo, but I wish you could learn to play well with others.
Ha! They're failing every minute of the day.
I dunno about where you live, but here copyright is not something normal people think about. If my friend has a CD I like I say "hey, can you make me a copy of that?" and the answer is invariably "sure". Same with software.
The only e-books I've ever read I've gotten off people on IRC.
It's like taping shows off tv.. everyone does it, even when there were laws that technically prohibit it.
If Linux evolves into a multi-server microkernel and we just start calling it HURD, will that do?
The slowness of Java is something Java programmers just accept. Unfortunately, as a result, many Java programmers just ignore the problem of performance at all. The best form of optimization is algorithmic complexity reduction.. it has nothing to do with the language you use. You can use the slowest language in the world and still get massive performance if you optimize your algorithm suitably. Thing about Freenet is they don't optimize. They're interested in slow-but-safe browsing.. so the day you see them switch from Java to something faster is the day you know that the focus has changed.