Why is he surprised? The last one he'd probably accept(based on display) is a Thinkpad T60p, non-widescreen edition. Not a "noname ODM", and can run OSX.
I'd like to know if he were to stack that one up or if it would have skewed the charts.
That's why I have no issue with keeping a predecessor, the T42p alive along with the T60p. The displays are just that good.
But the market for high end hardware is not growing that fast. There's gaming, video, CAD and a few other specialized areas where you need beefy horsepower. The average productivity workstation doesn't need dual cores. For a majority of home users being able to see pictures of their kids, dash off a quick letter once in a while and check email is all they need to do and they don't need a $300 OS or high end hardware to do that. I just don't see a bright future for Redmond in this.
Yay. Another advocate of junk, and part of why quality has disappeared.
These days, you can get a powerful PC with a decent GPU (if you're a gamer) for less than $1k, and a $400 netbook for when you're on the road. Why have anything in between?
Under $1000 new is asking to kill off quality. $1500-$3500 from a non-gaming laptop vendor (perhaps Lenovo and their Thinkpads?) won't make you wonder where the support went or why the thing was built shoddily.
He asks: 'Why don't they use a mechanical digger?''That would put people out of work,' replies the foreman. 'Oh,' says the economist, 'I thought you were making a dam. If it's jobs you want, take away their shovels and give them spoons.'
The famous last words of that economist before his unexpected demise. Trying to look towards the illogical extreme in that respect(scaling down) is only trying to appeal to absurdity.
'Software piracy negatively impacts local economic growth,' explained Microsoft VP Fengming Liu in a celebratory New Year's Eve press release. But then again, so does transferring $16B of assets and $9B in annual profit to an Irish tax haven, doesn't it?"
It is called a lack of accountability and transparency. Update the tax code to account for these places, making it near-impossible to use tax havens without incurring an unmanageable loss. How's 1,000,000,001% do as a minimum that scales up as the taxed amount goes down? Of course, there is the military option as a good deal of those tax havens are quite easy to topple.
What about the knockoffs in the realm of physical goods?
It's hard to blame Microsoft for moving money offshore to avoid taxes, we're the idiots that tax the hell out of our populace and our companies and think no bad could ever come from it
The problem is that the US won't close the loopholes they use.
Close the loophole, send a few shots across the bow of the tax havens and get them to cooperate. A lot of these tax havens have one problem - they're too easy to take over.
A good sized chunk of us are looking at your kind for forcing TN and otherwise making laptops cut-rate in quality.
No thank you, but my T60p does quite well with its thin build and its Flexview(AFFS) display. I proudly carry its weight wherever it goes, having quality on the road. That's one thing you'll never get with your junk-quality netbook.
What is the difference between this one and the rest of the other "Solaris on a cookie-cutter, flimsy ODM" portables?
Only if they were to find a source for S-IPS/AFFS screens and a non-tablet form factor (read: no integrated video or oversized 17" screens) would I be moved.
Having grown up in a union family, I see both sides of the fence. But, I'm strongly against getting rid of the secret ballot
It's only there in name. I believe you know of the various firms (The Burke Group, Jackson Lewis, Grigsby & Cohen, et al) that specialize in targeted intimidation of pro-union individuals.
If they didn't fight tooth and nail to keep them away, they wouldn't fight tooth and nail to keep it.
If it weren't for the adversarial nature of union-busting, we'd not have as much heel-digging. Thank the fine Pinkerton thugs of Colorado and the Security Forces of Ford for doing their part to make the UAW a part of the automotive landscape.
BTW2: despite it all, American cars are much better than their reputations suggest. Just don't drive the stripped-down "fleet" cars that the rental agencies buy. Notice how many old Buicks are still on the road. They're a lot cheaper to fix when they do break than foreign brand cars too.
Depends on what level of rental cars - as some aren't that stripped down. I've driven a couple of Cadillac DTS's and a Ford Mustang; the only thing that may have been left out of the latter is a couple of cylinders.
That, and if you have a W-body Buick, you also get a decent 'sleeper' car with regards to performance. Never mind that some of those can accept Northstar V8's. Who needs an oversized exhaust when you have a low-cost, high-output engine to deliver the right exhaust note?
Try that with your average "4-cylinder du jour" import.
BTW, anyone wanna buy some Michigan real estate?
Upper or Lower Peninsula? Upper Peninsula's quite fine and nothing like the rest of the state. Lots of forest, open land and lakes.
Lower Peninsula, not so much when you get further south from the bridge. Detroit is quite hellish and would require one to be well-armed and fortified to live there.
and I don't see Toyota begging the Japanese govt. for a bailout
They already are being bailed out by our government and the Japanese government.
Bailing out GM would keep the middle option of affordable performance. Of course, you'd think that was an I-4 over a straight-six/v-8 for well under $20000(6cyl) or $30000(8cyl).
Well, they're the target of lifestyle environmentalists, unionbusters, as well as government-backed transplants.
If that happens, Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai will assist in a huge transfer of wealth overseas.
Never mind that it'll be the last you'll ever see of affordable performance. Cheaply built compacts or overpriced exotics will be the rule of the day should they fail.
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Why is he surprised? The last one he'd probably accept(based on display) is a Thinkpad T60p, non-widescreen edition. Not a "noname ODM", and can run OSX.
I'd like to know if he were to stack that one up or if it would have skewed the charts.
That's why I have no issue with keeping a predecessor, the T42p alive along with the T60p. The displays are just that good.
But the market for high end hardware is not growing that fast. There's gaming, video, CAD and a few other specialized areas where you need beefy horsepower. The average productivity workstation doesn't need dual cores. For a majority of home users being able to see pictures of their kids, dash off a quick letter once in a while and check email is all they need to do and they don't need a $300 OS or high end hardware to do that. I just don't see a bright future for Redmond in this.
Yay. Another advocate of junk, and part of why quality has disappeared.
Then how do you expect to have quality come back?
They don't carry much of the higher capacity fans though - just a lot of the junk and silent stuff.
Yes, there are plenty of times when a Panasonic 12G12M will do the job when Antec's fans quit.
That isn't chocolate either.
These days, you can get a powerful PC with a decent GPU (if you're a gamer) for less than $1k, and a $400 netbook for when you're on the road. Why have anything in between?
Under $1000 new is asking to kill off quality. $1500-$3500 from a non-gaming laptop vendor (perhaps Lenovo and their Thinkpads?) won't make you wonder where the support went or why the thing was built shoddily.
...and Southern.
He asks: 'Why don't they use a mechanical digger?''That would put people out of work,' replies the foreman.
'Oh,' says the economist, 'I thought you were making a dam. If it's jobs you want, take away their shovels and give them spoons.'
The famous last words of that economist before his unexpected demise. Trying to look towards the illogical extreme in that respect(scaling down) is only trying to appeal to absurdity.
Mod the parent down.
'Software piracy negatively impacts local economic growth,' explained Microsoft VP Fengming Liu in a celebratory New Year's Eve press release. But then again, so does transferring $16B of assets and $9B in annual profit to an Irish tax haven, doesn't it?"
It is called a lack of accountability and transparency. Update the tax code to account for these places, making it near-impossible to use tax havens without incurring an unmanageable loss. How's 1,000,000,001% do as a minimum that scales up as the taxed amount goes down? Of course, there is the military option as a good deal of those tax havens are quite easy to topple.
What about the knockoffs in the realm of physical goods?
It's hard to blame Microsoft for moving money offshore to avoid taxes, we're the idiots that tax the hell out of our populace and our companies and think no bad could ever come from it
The problem is that the US won't close the loopholes they use.
Close the loophole, send a few shots across the bow of the tax havens and get them to cooperate. A lot of these tax havens have one problem - they're too easy to take over.
Ask iran@redingtongulf.com about it.
That is enough to say "Let it happen".
Condoning and cultivating goldfarmer rule violations in prohibited realms is deserving of some smiting.
It's not dual screen 1920x1200, but it is dual screen. The Lenovo W700ds
It's one place where quality can still be had. You can't force someone to a TN display, nor do they have to look like some cut-rate ODM.
A good sized chunk of us are looking at your kind for forcing TN and otherwise making laptops cut-rate in quality.
No thank you, but my T60p does quite well with its thin build and its Flexview(AFFS) display. I proudly carry its weight wherever it goes, having quality on the road. That's one thing you'll never get with your junk-quality netbook.
The only choice for a display type is TN or TN with something that tries to mask it.
No thanks to netbooks and such, bring back the AFFS/S-IPS displays tyvm. Give us back our fully reflective, non-distorting panels tyvm!
Instead of getting a panel manufacturer to make AFFS/S-IPS displays, we get this?
$3600 might actually be worth it here, but there is nothing one can do to TN to make it any better.
Never mind that they can't even get a 6-cylinder engine in their lineup.
What is the difference between this one and the rest of the other "Solaris on a cookie-cutter, flimsy ODM" portables?
Only if they were to find a source for S-IPS/AFFS screens and a non-tablet form factor (read: no integrated video or oversized 17" screens) would I be moved.
Having grown up in a union family, I see both sides of the fence. But, I'm strongly against getting rid of the secret ballot
It's only there in name. I believe you know of the various firms (The Burke Group, Jackson Lewis, Grigsby & Cohen, et al) that specialize in targeted intimidation of pro-union individuals.
If they didn't fight tooth and nail to keep them away, they wouldn't fight tooth and nail to keep it.
If it weren't for the adversarial nature of union-busting, we'd not have as much heel-digging. Thank the fine Pinkerton thugs of Colorado and the Security Forces of Ford for doing their part to make the UAW a part of the automotive landscape.
BTW2: despite it all, American cars are much better than their reputations suggest. Just don't drive the stripped-down "fleet" cars that the rental agencies buy. Notice how many old Buicks are still on the road. They're a lot cheaper to fix when they do break than foreign brand cars too.
Depends on what level of rental cars - as some aren't that stripped down. I've driven a couple of Cadillac DTS's and a Ford Mustang; the only thing that may have been left out of the latter is a couple of cylinders.
That, and if you have a W-body Buick, you also get a decent 'sleeper' car with regards to performance. Never mind that some of those can accept Northstar V8's. Who needs an oversized exhaust when you have a low-cost, high-output engine to deliver the right exhaust note?
Try that with your average "4-cylinder du jour" import.
BTW, anyone wanna buy some Michigan real estate?
Upper or Lower Peninsula? Upper Peninsula's quite fine and nothing like the rest of the state. Lots of forest, open land and lakes.
Lower Peninsula, not so much when you get further south from the bridge. Detroit is quite hellish and would require one to be well-armed and fortified to live there.
GM killed electric trolley public transportation on the East Coast decades ago, pushing for city buses made by GMC that used internal combustion.
Come to somewhere deep in the Rust Belt - and see trolleys.
Then wonder why they've kept them and Ohio being in lockstep with Michigan in supporting bailouts.
and I don't see Toyota begging the Japanese govt. for a bailout
They already are being bailed out by our government and the Japanese government.
Bailing out GM would keep the middle option of affordable performance. Of course, you'd think that was an I-4 over a straight-six/v-8 for well under $20000(6cyl) or $30000(8cyl).
Crank out less environmentalist cars.
Well, they're the target of lifestyle environmentalists, unionbusters, as well as government-backed transplants.
If that happens, Toyota, Honda, and Hyundai will assist in a huge transfer of wealth overseas.
Never mind that it'll be the last you'll ever see of affordable performance. Cheaply built compacts or overpriced exotics will be the rule of the day should they fail.
for being uppity and closed-lipped about their drm-laden drm-breaker.
Of course, Slysoft can do no wrong?
You have to fight with opposing patrons for each time you go up for food.