What's also funny is how much people claim to love the constitution and free speech and hate copyright, while utterly failing to recognise that copyright is written into the constitution proper, whilst free speech was only tacked on in an amendment, and therefore of questionable legality.
Of course back then copyright was designed to protect the small-time content creator from the big company with the Gutenberg Press. Funny how things turn out.
How could he steal it if he didn't deprive the Tempest of anything? Did he sneak into his basements at night and take the only floppy disk that had that sample on it?
The above was adapted from the Official/. definition of stealing.
So while we're still at/., at worst this is a copyright infringement. I don't know how the work was originally released but suspect it probably wasn't Public Domain or a Creative Commons flavour.
Of course if the demoscene wasn't interested in making money out of this they would have released it with an appropriate licence in the first place and taken the recent discovery as an ego-boost right?
Sony's attitude? You do realise that Blu-Ray is controlled by an association of nearly twenty companies, right?
* Apple Computer
* Dell
* Hewlett Packard
* Hitachi
* LG Electronics
* Mitsubishi Electric
* Panasonic (Matsushita Electric)
* Pioneer Corporation
* Royal Philips Electronics
* Samsung Electronics
* Sharp Corporation
* Sony Corporation
* TDK Corporation
* Thomson
* Twentieth Century Fox
* Walt Disney Pictures
* Warner Home Video Inc.
As opposed to HD-DVD in which the only major controllers are Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, Intel, and that axis of evil, Microsoft.
Also, I seem to recall people here circa 2000 had posts similar to yours:
For me there are two choices:
1) DVD content works with no Region locks, CSS or UOPs 2) No DVD content for me
Do you still think this is the case? Do you think you'll still be able to buy new DVDs in 5 years?
Unless it's not fake, but the actual film but with the frames jumbled up so as to be unwatchable, or the soundtrack and/or picture piped through a white noise generator to make it even less pleasant to watch.
I'm not going to miss any action in a football game on a regular cable broadcast...
Uh, you've never actually seen a BluRay movie on an HDTV have you? This isn't just some minor incremental improvement in quality, you can see a crapload more.
Think players facial expressions in wide-angle field shots.
That's all very nice but what you've written about has absolutely nothing to do with relativity, but more to do with scientific observation.
What has been witnessed is an explosion that, according to our current understanding of the universe, should obliterate the pillars with nothing that we yet know of to prevent it. Therefore it is reasonable to assume with a certain amount of confidence that the scenario described is actually what happened until evidence is presented that suggests otherwise. Of course that doesn't mean that we're 100% certain it happened, but then again we won't be in 1000 years time either. The light of the disintegrating pillars reaching us isn't some magical event that determines whether it happened or not. We're not talking Schrodinger here. Either it's happened now or it hasn't. No amount of light propagation is going to change that. If, in 1000 years, the light arriving at Earth does reveal the pillars no longer there, then that certainty will be nudged closer to 100% than now but still won't be absolute. For all we know (to keep it down "at my level") the pillars never actually existed and what hubble saw was just an ultra-large frame of an alien movie being played among the stars. Just because we see something doesn't mean we know everything about what it is we think we're seeing.
If the data is correct, then it already has happened. I realise that some poor 100-level physics/relativity courses try to push the idea that events outside the "light cone" (as you like to call it) haven't happened yet but that's baloney. The event has occurred and the pillars are destroyed, light cone or no light cone. We just haven't seen it yet.
And note that this is all despite heavy DRM on nearly every commercial DVD disc and player ever made.
People who still think the populance won't stand for the next wave of DRM merely need to look at the stellar success of the previous wave to see that people just don't care. The frog is still on the hotplate it would seem.
And I'm sure the situation is getting worse. On some DVDs one is now forced to sit through un-skippable previews and sparkly animated corporate logos for up to a minute before the main feature. If I wanted crap like that I'd go to the cineplex.
Speaking of which, does anyone know of a decent DVD player (Linux boxen notwithstanding) that doesn't enforce stupid no-skip flags?
I don't know what bible you've been reading, but in the Christian one people are encouraged to practise better-than-unsustainable farming.
From Exodus: "You may plant your land for six years and gather its crops. But during the seventh year, you must leave it alone and withdraw from it. The needy among you will then be able to eat just as you do, and whatever is left over can be eaten by wild animals."
And Leviticus: "When you come to the land that I am giving you, the land must be given a rest period, a sabbath to God. For six years you may plant your fields, prune your vineyards, and harvest your crops, but the seventh year is a sabbath of sabbaths for the land."
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What's also funny is how much people claim to love the constitution and free speech and hate copyright, while utterly failing to recognise that copyright is written into the constitution proper, whilst free speech was only tacked on in an amendment, and therefore of questionable legality.
Of course back then copyright was designed to protect the small-time content creator from the big company with the Gutenberg Press. Funny how things turn out.
How could he steal it if he didn't deprive the Tempest of anything? Did he sneak into his basements at night and take the only floppy disk that had that sample on it?
/. definition of stealing.
/., at worst this is a copyright infringement. I don't know how the work was originally released but suspect it probably wasn't Public Domain or a Creative Commons flavour.
The above was adapted from the Official
So while we're still at
Of course if the demoscene wasn't interested in making money out of this they would have released it with an appropriate licence in the first place and taken the recent discovery as an ego-boost right?
Sony's attitude? You do realise that Blu-Ray is controlled by an association of nearly twenty companies, right?
* Apple Computer
* Dell
* Hewlett Packard
* Hitachi
* LG Electronics
* Mitsubishi Electric
* Panasonic (Matsushita Electric)
* Pioneer Corporation
* Royal Philips Electronics
* Samsung Electronics
* Sharp Corporation
* Sony Corporation
* TDK Corporation
* Thomson
* Twentieth Century Fox
* Walt Disney Pictures
* Warner Home Video Inc.
As opposed to HD-DVD in which the only major controllers are Toshiba, NEC, Sanyo, Intel, and that axis of evil, Microsoft.
Also, I seem to recall people here circa 2000 had posts similar to yours:
For me there are two choices:
1) DVD content works with no Region locks, CSS or UOPs
2) No DVD content for me
Do you still think this is the case? Do you think you'll still be able to buy new DVDs in 5 years?
Yep, that about seals it for me too:
Porn destined for HD-DVD - check
HD-DVD encryption cracked while studios are watching carefully, deciding which format to go for - check
Blu-Ray, here I come.
Romero, is that you?
- The "other" John
So what happens if your lawyer dies or retires before your switch is triggered?
Unless it's not fake, but the actual film but with the frames jumbled up so as to be unwatchable, or the soundtrack and/or picture piped through a white noise generator to make it even less pleasant to watch.
No, that would be the Wii.
I'm not going to miss any action in a football game on a regular cable broadcast...
Uh, you've never actually seen a BluRay movie on an HDTV have you? This isn't just some minor incremental improvement in quality, you can see a crapload more.
Think players facial expressions in wide-angle field shots.
And this would have nothing to do with a little visit by MS a couple of years ago, right?
How exactly is the XBox 2 ("360") going to run OpenGL code, Carmacks API of choice?
On this topic, how many people here are using talloc() ?
That's all very nice but what you've written about has absolutely nothing to do with relativity, but more to do with scientific observation.
What has been witnessed is an explosion that, according to our current understanding of the universe, should obliterate the pillars with nothing that we yet know of to prevent it. Therefore it is reasonable to assume with a certain amount of confidence that the scenario described is actually what happened until evidence is presented that suggests otherwise. Of course that doesn't mean that we're 100% certain it happened, but then again we won't be in 1000 years time either. The light of the disintegrating pillars reaching us isn't some magical event that determines whether it happened or not. We're not talking Schrodinger here. Either it's happened now or it hasn't. No amount of light propagation is going to change that. If, in 1000 years, the light arriving at Earth does reveal the pillars no longer there, then that certainty will be nudged closer to 100% than now but still won't be absolute. For all we know (to keep it down "at my level") the pillars never actually existed and what hubble saw was just an ultra-large frame of an alien movie being played among the stars. Just because we see something doesn't mean we know everything about what it is we think we're seeing.
True, but there's no such thing as "smooth surface" or "vacuum" either. Nonetheless they are important in physics.
Sorry but that is a rather silly claim.
If the data is correct, then it already has happened. I realise that some poor 100-level physics/relativity courses try to push the idea that events outside the "light cone" (as you like to call it) haven't happened yet but that's baloney. The event has occurred and the pillars are destroyed, light cone or no light cone. We just haven't seen it yet.
They are ex-pillars.
They have ceased to be.
Dylan Avery, is that you?
And note that this is all despite heavy DRM on nearly every commercial DVD disc and player ever made.
People who still think the populance won't stand for the next wave of DRM merely need to look at the stellar success of the previous wave to see that people just don't care. The frog is still on the hotplate it would seem.
And I'm sure the situation is getting worse. On some DVDs one is now forced to sit through un-skippable previews and sparkly animated corporate logos for up to a minute before the main feature. If I wanted crap like that I'd go to the cineplex.
Speaking of which, does anyone know of a decent DVD player (Linux boxen notwithstanding) that doesn't enforce stupid no-skip flags?
I can only add one comment to what's already been said with a quick prayer:
Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft Please not Microsoft
Speak for yourself, I never seem to have enough socks.
So does this mean we might start seeing mail notifications actually pop up under Linux now?
(clue: The checkbox is there but has been broken for years)
Maybe they'll fix the regression that saw the New Folder button in the Create New Filter dialog removed too.
This sounds worryingly like what ESR predicted might happen if you start paying OSS developers without extreme caution.
It's somewhere in The Cathedral & The Bazaar.
Really? Could you please link to the act that made this legal?
thanks
My sarcasm detector just exploded.
So thanks a lot
*bang*
dammit
What about the intruder who meant to take your PS3 and sell it to the pawn shop down the road? Would you kill him too?
1. Because thanks to a whole lot of movie BS children have been taught that guns are cool.
2. Because hammers have a legitimate use beyond killing people.
3. Too often. The only reason one would need a gun is if one is prepared to commit murder. Are you prepared?
I don't know what bible you've been reading, but in the Christian one people are encouraged to practise better-than-unsustainable farming.
From Exodus:
"You may plant your land for six years and gather its crops. But during the seventh year, you must leave it alone and withdraw from it. The needy among you will then be able to eat just as you do, and whatever is left over can be eaten by wild animals."
And Leviticus:
"When you come to the land that I am giving you, the land must be given a rest period, a sabbath to God. For six years you may plant your fields, prune your vineyards, and harvest your crops, but the seventh year is a sabbath of sabbaths for the land."