The difference here, with AMD's processors, is that they are x86's. Alpha was a totally different architecture. The AMD64's will run 32-bit code quite fast. You can still run your Windows 2000 box on an AMD64 in native 32-bit mode. Totally different than Alpha because you don't NEED a recompile.
I used to work for DEC and API (Alpha Processor Inc) Yea, still out of work 2 years later.
Samsung tried. It was called Alpha Processor Inc, then API NetWorks. I won't go into why it failed.
I worked at API and got laid-off 2+ years ago.
Alpha is over. Unless you are an existing customer who needs to keep their VMS and Tru64 systems going until the VMS/Itanic port is done (already booting) or until you're ready to move to HP/UX from Tru64, Alpha is dead.
I think Microsoft is more like the slutty sister who uses everyone to get what she wants, who breaks things and always gets away with it by pouting and saying "Gee, I'm sorry, I'm trying as hard as I can" and then screws your friends just to see the look on your face.
I think Gemstar has that patented. You'd have to license it from them.
(Anything that displays on a TV, they seem to have a patent for)
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Let's not put the cart before the horse. Get a solid open-sourced replacement for basic Exchange Server functionality (Contacts, Calendar, Email, etc...) and the add-ons will happen FAST.
I got my PS2 when I upgraded from SDSD to RADSL. (Happy so far with it, except when people are downloading from my web server. Then my download goes to hell)
If they are using Hypertransport, as has been mentioned, then they can use an AMD PCI-X tunnel chip and a "standard" SATA/sound/Ethernet/etc tunnel chip.
Hypertransport is going to allow them to use more standard PC components and take advantage of new chips quickly.
Yea, I'm pretty annoyed with ponying up $60 only to not even get access to the "Instant ISO's". I understand the popularity, but... For the $60 they should just snail-mail me the CD's. It'd be faster and more efficient.
Oh, an RH, $60 for me right now is a fair amount of money. I'm still outta work.
Am I the only one who likes Mozilla? I switched from Outlook Depress on my Windows 2000 laptop to Mozilla 1.3 for my browser and email and I love it!
The tabbed browsing is excellent. The fact that from Mozilla Mail I can control-click on a link and it shows up in a new tab without messing up my previously viewed pages is worth the (low) price of admission.
The email spam filters are working well, at least till I get around to a better server-based solution.
I just started looking at the Mozilla calendar. Looks good so far!
Now if anyone can reccomend a web page that describes how to set up an LDAP server to replace my address book so I don't have to manage multiple address books, I'd be eternally grateful!
Are there bugs with Mozilla? Yes. The Googlebar for Mozilla needs a little bit of work. But all in all, the bloat isn't that bad, certainly no worse than Microsoft but with MUCH better functionality and stability! I can pay that price.
The Great Bird of the Galaxy has spoken! Let it be written, let it be filmed!
If we do what you suggest, why, in a few hundred years a starship may come and its captain, after having sex with our women, will help us see the light and send us back to killing the good old fashioned way.:):):)
Dave Cutler did not "write VMS". He made significant contributions, but there's alot of other extremely talented engineers (some still there!) that contributed to the success of VMS.
I doubt much of Cutlers code lives on at this point. VMS has had a number of serious code upgrades over the year. It's currently being ported to Itanic at the moment!
I remember a presentation back in Windows NT beta timeframe. I was working in VMS at the time. We sat there and watched while concepts and methods of Windows NT were shown. I heard someone remark "They stole our stuff".
It's interesting to see Microsoft coming around to the bennies of a command line, 10 years after the fact.
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The difference here, with AMD's processors, is that they are x86's. Alpha was a totally different architecture. The AMD64's will run 32-bit code quite fast. You can still run your Windows 2000 box on an AMD64 in native 32-bit mode. Totally different than Alpha because you don't NEED a recompile.
I used to work for DEC and API (Alpha Processor Inc)
Yea, still out of work 2 years later.
Build a shed at the end of the road. Say it's for the kids to wait for their school bus.
Install the cable box there. Install a wireless router and an antenna and aim it at your house. Remove branches/trees as required.
Set up an antenna and AP at the house.
Would that work in your situation?
Would those space trucks have a Hemi?
Sweeeet.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Samsung tried. It was called Alpha Processor Inc, then API NetWorks. I won't go into why it failed.
I worked at API and got laid-off 2+ years ago.
Alpha is over. Unless you are an existing customer who needs to keep their VMS and Tru64 systems going until the VMS/Itanic port is done (already booting) or until you're ready to move to HP/UX from Tru64, Alpha is dead.
My next system will be an AMD64.
Hi Neil,
Did you work at DEC in the late 80's/early 90's?
AXEL::FOLEY (For those who don't know, it was the DECnet method of addressing. node::username\
Thanks,
I think Microsoft is more like the slutty sister who uses everyone to get what she wants, who breaks things and always gets away with it by pouting and saying "Gee, I'm sorry, I'm trying as hard as I can" and then screws your friends just to see the look on your face.
Not to mention that this fosters the continuance of a monopoly position.
I'd love to see the FTC in on this one.
Just send it out the skylight...oh, right, no skylights in the basement!
I think Gemstar has that patented. You'd have to license it from them.
(Anything that displays on a TV, they seem to have a patent for)
Let's not put the cart before the horse. Get a solid open-sourced replacement for basic Exchange Server functionality (Contacts, Calendar, Email, etc...) and the add-ons will happen FAST.
ipfreely is my vote..
I got my PS2 when I upgraded from SDSD to RADSL.
(Happy so far with it, except when people are downloading from my web server. Then my download goes to hell)
If they are using Hypertransport, as has been mentioned, then they can use an AMD PCI-X tunnel chip and a "standard" SATA/sound/Ethernet/etc tunnel chip.
Hypertransport is going to allow them to use more standard PC components and take advantage of new chips quickly.
Maybe you should watch more of the Simpsons.
I present to you Apu Nahasapeemapetilon
and the Kwik-E-Mart.
http://animatedtv.about.com/cs/apu/
Actually, it was DEC that gave the AthlonMP its bus design. It was based on the EV6 Alpha bus.
In the Intel solutions, the CPU's share the bus. In the Alpha/Athlon MP bus, each one is dedicated.
I agree that another memory controller on the Athlon MP Northbridge would have been stellar.
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Yea, I'm pretty annoyed with ponying up $60 only to not even get access to the "Instant ISO's". I understand the popularity, but... For the $60 they should just snail-mail me the CD's. It'd be faster and more efficient.
Oh, an RH, $60 for me right now is a fair amount of money. I'm still outta work.
DEC is gone.
The VAX is gone (it went down with a fight. Alot of folks still wanted to buy them!)
However, VMSclusters (renamed from VAX Clusters when Alpha came along) are still going strong. So is VMS.
It's being ported to Itanium.
Now if it only was owned by a company that appreciated it.
Am I the only one who likes Mozilla? I switched from Outlook Depress on my Windows 2000 laptop to Mozilla 1.3 for my browser and email and I love it!
The tabbed browsing is excellent. The fact that from Mozilla Mail I can control-click on a link and it shows up in a new tab without messing up my previously viewed pages is worth the (low) price of admission.
The email spam filters are working well, at least till I get around to a better server-based solution.
I just started looking at the Mozilla calendar. Looks good so far!
Now if anyone can reccomend a web page that describes how to set up an LDAP server to replace my address book so I don't have to manage multiple address books, I'd be eternally grateful!
Are there bugs with Mozilla? Yes. The Googlebar for Mozilla needs a little bit of work. But all in all, the bloat isn't that bad, certainly no worse than Microsoft but with MUCH better functionality and stability! I can pay that price.
To the Mozilla developers, a BIG thank you!
The Great Bird of the Galaxy has spoken! Let it be written, let it be filmed!
:) :) :)
If we do what you suggest, why, in a few hundred years a starship may come and its captain, after having sex with our women, will help us see the light and send us back to killing the good old fashioned way.
Did you even read the article and look at the pictures? This laser takes up the whole cargo deck of a 747 freighter!
They could have had this with Alpha and FX!32 back in 1999.
FX!32 was checked into the Windows2000 for Alpha sources and from all accounts, ran really nice.
I wonder if they got to keep that stuff and use it for IA64 with VPC?
Please don't speak of Andy in the past tense. He's still there and still working on VMS, 20+ years.
I saw him just a couple of weeks ago when I was in ZK, visiting a friend for lunch.
I'm a former system manager (sysadmin to Unix folks) that worked in the VMS Development Group.
That's the joke I told my wife the night I met her! (Really!)
Dave Cutler did not "write VMS". He made significant contributions, but there's alot of other extremely talented engineers (some still there!) that contributed to the success of VMS.
I doubt much of Cutlers code lives on at this point. VMS has had a number of serious code upgrades over the year. It's currently being ported to Itanic at the moment!
I remember a presentation back in Windows NT beta timeframe. I was working in VMS at the time. We sat there and watched while concepts and methods of Windows NT were shown. I heard someone remark "They stole our stuff".
It's interesting to see Microsoft coming around to the bennies of a command line, 10 years after the fact.