1. Dude - wait till you're in the "real world." Do you think your managers will give a rat's ass about how much of an accomplishment you think getting your CS degree is? If you end up in IT - just pray you don't end up in a company that considers it to be just a chargeback service. If you end up in manufacturing or something besides telecom or perhaps the financial sector, where IT is truly mission critical, you're likely to be a little whipping boy to the "core business." You may have all kinds of ideas about how to save money and make IT work better for them, but you won't have the chance to even present them. Innovation can't be billed back to the "customer."
2. There are plenty of people out there who thought CS was easy. It's because they didn't complete a real CS program. Devry, ITT, (insert your tech program here) are great for churning out people with knowledge of the latest and greatest technologies, but they aren't so great about teaching the theory and background knowledge that you're getting. Unfortunately, many people don't know the difference.
Could this move simply be MS jumping ship due to MSNBC's ratings being in the toilet??? I heard O'Reilly gloat the other day about his show's 4am repeat getting better ratings than his MSNBC competition gets in the primetime slot.
While it certainly is standard practice, severence pay - even up to 2 weeks, is not required in most (perhaps all) "at will" states. I didn't give notice at my last job because of that fact. After the BS I had put up with (being hired and held off for 2 weeks after showing up only to find the job hadn't been approved,...), I didn't trust the bastards any more than I could throw them. It just tickles me pink when corporations preach all about maintaining loyalty to the company. After what I've experienced personally and what I've seen big corps do to my fellow employees (especially old-timers whose pensions are getting large), I show corporations as much loyalty as they have for me. Hopefully in my new job, that won't have to be zero.
I just experienced this taken to the extreme. For a little over 3 years, I worked as a senior sysadmin at a major telecomm, had 40 servers as primary, another 20 as secondary, and was in an 8 person on-call rotation for 250 servers in 2 data centers. Before that, I worked 1.5 years in the same corp in the team that helped the sysadmins whenever they couldn't figure something out. Before that, I had learned the ropes in a couple of smaller shops for 3 years. Overall, I have a CS degree and I'm going on 9 years experience in the OS they were looking for, but they told the headhunter I did not have enough "experience across the board in a major server environment."
This is coming from a diesel engine manufacturer that has less than half the employees of the telecomm, just a small percentage of the accounts we had to process, none of the fines we could incur for outages, and not even close to the amount of revenue we had to process or the breadth of applications we had to support. I don't think it's a stretch to call my former employer major league IT and their's triple-A. Yet, because my resume doesn't have X number of years with the actual title they are looking for, they don't want me on their triple-A team.
So I move out in the boonies on a big (gigantic to you city fellers) piece of land. My wife is a telecommuter, so we MUST have something better than dialup access. I find out we can get ISDN. O.k. - not the best option, but 128K is better that the 26K or so we could manage over our crap analog lines. Well, it turns out the switches are so OLD, they can handle only 64K ISDN - but I'm still charged the full ISDN price, and we lose connectivity ALL THE TIME.
So anyway, I've got some money to burn, and I figure I can get a T1 line run in and then get some neighbors to go in on a wireless co-op. I CAN'T EVEN GET BELLSOUTH to respond to my inquiries. So I request quotes from a bunch of T1 brokers/resellers. The absolute cheapest I've found is $1000 a month for full T1. It turns out we are 41 miles from the CO, and the cost is higher than usual because they would have to upgrade a lot of switching just to get a line to me. I could afford it, but it pisses me off to no end that mega-corps like BellSouth refuse to dip into their coffers to upgrade their rural equipment up to that used in cities for what, 20 to 30 years?
Rural broadband ideas? I'm fresh out.
And for the love of God and all that is Holy and pure in this world, please do not mention satelite.
Your example is a false analogy. A gun shop owner calling up a client to inform him of a federal subpoena being served is not at all like a librarian informing clients that ALL access to library material is being monitored. This is about the FBI fishing for leads by monitoring EVERYONE. In your case, the FBI is FOLLOWING a lead by trying to find out who purchased a particular weapon.
$30 billion could be much better spent doing submersible research. High pressure experimentation is going to be at least as important in the future as low gravity/low pressure experiments. Plus there's the obvious benefits of finding new species with the potential of providing important new medicines. It would also provide tons of new information for tracking weather and climate change. Anyway, I just find it a hell of a lot more relevant to do oceanic research. We know less about the deep ocean than we do about far away galaxies.
I don't give a rat's ass if my employer gets upset about time I spend doing anything, as long as I'm getting my job done! If my employer can get away with giving me no compensation whatsoever for overtime or even for being on-call, to the point that they have to give me days off under the table because they "can't" give me comp time for extreme hours worked, then I don't feel bad taking whatever downtime I can get and using it to relax!
Anyone know if this will support meeting requests and integrate into an OpenMail/Outlook corporate environment? I would switch to this in a heartbeat if I could use it to accept and reject or make new meeting announcements. I'm using Bynari Insight for this now, but it has quite a few shortcomings.
Then it's also the soldier who must stand up for our freedoms when our politicians attempt to trample them, rather than serve as puppets of their masters.
If you think that Mickeysoft is running on big servers, then you need to rethink your definition of big. Micro$haft can't even get into what is Sun's low end of midrange, let alone the BIG stuff. The best they can do is to compete with a minimal E220 or maybe a 420, and that's just for CPU and memory. The Wintel box will still get the shit kicked out of it in I/O.
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If you are like me, and you work in a large corporation, where you cannot attract truly good programmers because your projects aren't interesting, then you are stuck hiring bottom of the barrel, "Learn Java in 6 weeks!" hacks that don't know jack about writing software. I have to deal with developers who blame everything but their own code whenever there is an application problem. Every time, we have to go through our servers to prove that nothing is wrong with them, when everybody knows that the code sucks ass. 90% of these people have no idea how to even use a debugger. It almost makes me want to go back into development, but I don't know if I could stand working with the others. My suggestion is that we get legislation in place to require licensing exams for software engineers.
It's believed by many scholars to refer to Nero Caesar, and that much of Revelation is a cryptic description of Nero's persecution of Christians. In Latin translations made when people still commonly understood this, the actual number used is 616. The 666 comes from Greek texts. This is interesting because the Greek name for Nero was Neron Caesar. The actual number comes from adding up the Hebrew characters. So it's something like "Nr Csr"=616 (no vowels in Hebrew), and "Nrn Csrn" = 666. I forget what all the numbers equal, but you.
Methinks Dan Rather is about as objective as Bill Clinton is picky about women. This guy writes as if big media journalists are objective heroes courageously asking hard questions in the foxholes on every topic. That is bullshit. Big media is so full of corporate and political whores that they are at least in the same league as the trade rags. Fox News reported today that the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) have run 179 stories so far on Condit, and only 14 have mentioned his political affiliation. If he were a Republican, I doubt that 14 out of 179 wouldn't mention his party affiliation. In fact, many journalists, including one on C-Span, have fucked up and said that Condit is a Republican in their reports. Some even called him a very conservative Republican!
>No, this guy's right. The biggest reason for the decline in what the average person learns out of high school in this country is the decline in qualified teachers.
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1. Dude - wait till you're in the "real world." Do you think your managers will give a rat's ass about how much of an accomplishment you think getting your CS degree is? If you end up in IT - just pray you don't end up in a company that considers it to be just a chargeback service. If you end up in manufacturing or something besides telecom or perhaps the financial sector, where IT is truly mission critical, you're likely to be a little whipping boy to the "core business." You may have all kinds of ideas about how to save money and make IT work better for them, but you won't have the chance to even present them. Innovation can't be billed back to the "customer."
2. There are plenty of people out there who thought CS was easy. It's because they didn't complete a real CS program. Devry, ITT, (insert your tech program here) are great for churning out people with knowledge of the latest and greatest technologies, but they aren't so great about teaching the theory and background knowledge that you're getting. Unfortunately, many people don't know the difference.
WTF over? I posted this to the MSNBC thread - BEFORE the dodo bird thread was even active.
Could this move simply be MS jumping ship due to MSNBC's ratings being in the toilet??? I heard O'Reilly gloat the other day about his show's 4am repeat getting better ratings than his MSNBC competition gets in the primetime slot.
It's better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission.
welcome our new heart destroying, document tampering overlords.
I'm here till Thursday, try the veal!
So... if the NP is going S, where is the SP going?
Wouldn't it follow that if one is moving, the other is as well?
While it certainly is standard practice, severence pay - even up to 2 weeks, is not required in most (perhaps all) "at will" states. I didn't give notice at my last job because of that fact. After the BS I had put up with (being hired and held off for 2 weeks after showing up only to find the job hadn't been approved, ...), I didn't trust the bastards any more than I could throw them. It just tickles me pink when corporations preach all about maintaining loyalty to the company. After what I've experienced personally and what I've seen big corps do to my fellow employees (especially old-timers whose pensions are getting large), I show corporations as much loyalty as they have for me. Hopefully in my new job, that won't have to be zero.
Like maybe, oh, I don't know - this guy?
http://www.wilwheaton.net/
I just experienced this taken to the extreme. For a little over 3 years, I worked as a senior sysadmin at a major telecomm, had 40 servers as primary, another 20 as secondary, and was in an 8 person on-call rotation for 250 servers in 2 data centers. Before that, I worked 1.5 years in the same corp in the team that helped the sysadmins whenever they couldn't figure something out. Before that, I had learned the ropes in a couple of smaller shops for 3 years. Overall, I have a CS degree and I'm going on 9 years experience in the OS they were looking for, but they told the headhunter I did not have enough "experience across the board in a major server environment."
This is coming from a diesel engine manufacturer that has less than half the employees of the telecomm, just a small percentage of the accounts we had to process, none of the fines we could incur for outages, and not even close to the amount of revenue we had to process or the breadth of applications we had to support. I don't think it's a stretch to call my former employer major league IT and their's triple-A. Yet, because my resume doesn't have X number of years with the actual title they are looking for, they don't want me on their triple-A team.
But I'm not bitter...
>> But we still subsidize much of rural America to this day. Yet they continue to get squat. I don't have to wonder where all the money is going.
It's going to . You sure do like to consume all that cheap, subsidized food, though, dontchya?
Here is an interesting program within the USDA for those interested in improving the divide:
http://www.usda.gov/rus/telecom/broadband
So I move out in the boonies on a big (gigantic to you city fellers) piece of land. My wife is a telecommuter, so we MUST have something better than dialup access. I find out we can get ISDN. O.k. - not the best option, but 128K is better that the 26K or so we could manage over our crap analog lines. Well, it turns out the switches are so OLD, they can handle only 64K ISDN - but I'm still charged the full ISDN price, and we lose connectivity ALL THE TIME.
So anyway, I've got some money to burn, and I figure I can get a T1 line run in and then get some neighbors to go in on a wireless co-op. I CAN'T EVEN GET BELLSOUTH to respond to my inquiries. So I request quotes from a bunch of T1 brokers/resellers. The absolute cheapest I've found is $1000 a month for full T1. It turns out we are 41 miles from the CO, and the cost is higher than usual because they would have to upgrade a lot of switching just to get a line to me. I could afford it, but it pisses me off to no end that mega-corps like BellSouth refuse to dip into their coffers to upgrade their rural equipment up to that used in cities for what, 20 to 30 years?
Rural broadband ideas? I'm fresh out.
And for the love of God and all that is Holy and pure in this world, please do not mention satelite.
Doesn't Civ CTP have a "Beef Vat" that sounds awfully like this - except it actually adds to your polution levels...
Now that you've beaten up on those who made poor arguments against you, why don't you try responding to the well reasoned ones?
Your example is a false analogy. A gun shop owner calling up a client to inform him of a federal subpoena being served is not at all like a librarian informing clients that ALL access to library material is being monitored. This is about the FBI fishing for leads by monitoring EVERYONE. In your case, the FBI is FOLLOWING a lead by trying to find out who purchased a particular weapon.
$30 billion could be much better spent doing submersible research. High pressure experimentation is going to be at least as important in the future as low gravity/low pressure experiments. Plus there's the obvious benefits of finding new species with the potential of providing important new medicines. It would also provide tons of new information for tracking weather and climate change. Anyway, I just find it a hell of a lot more relevant to do oceanic research. We know less about the deep ocean than we do about far away galaxies.
I don't give a rat's ass if my employer gets upset about time I spend doing anything, as long as I'm getting my job done! If my employer can get away with giving me no compensation whatsoever for overtime or even for being on-call, to the point that they have to give me days off under the table because they "can't" give me comp time for extreme hours worked, then I don't feel bad taking whatever downtime I can get and using it to relax!
I could swear I heard angels singing while I read that! :)
Anyone know if this will support meeting requests and integrate into an OpenMail/Outlook corporate environment? I would switch to this in a heartbeat if I could use it to accept and reject or make new meeting announcements. I'm using Bynari Insight for this now, but it has quite a few shortcomings.
Then it's also the soldier who must stand up for our freedoms when our politicians attempt to trample them, rather than serve as puppets of their masters.
If you think that Mickeysoft is running on big servers, then you need to rethink your definition of big. Micro$haft can't even get into what is Sun's low end of midrange, let alone the BIG stuff. The best they can do is to compete with a minimal E220 or maybe a 420, and that's just for CPU and memory. The Wintel box will still get the shit kicked out of it in I/O.
If you are like me, and you work in a large corporation, where you cannot attract truly good programmers because your projects aren't interesting, then you are stuck hiring bottom of the barrel, "Learn Java in 6 weeks!" hacks that don't know jack about writing software. I have to deal with developers who blame everything but their own code whenever there is an application problem. Every time, we have to go through our servers to prove that nothing is wrong with them, when everybody knows that the code sucks ass. 90% of these people have no idea how to even use a debugger. It almost makes me want to go back into development, but I don't know if I could stand working with the others. My suggestion is that we get legislation in place to require licensing exams for software engineers.
It's believed by many scholars to refer to Nero Caesar, and that much of Revelation is a cryptic description of Nero's persecution of Christians. In Latin translations made when people still commonly understood this, the actual number used is 616. The 666 comes from Greek texts. This is interesting because the Greek name for Nero was Neron Caesar. The actual number comes from adding up the Hebrew characters. So it's something like "Nr Csr"=616 (no vowels in Hebrew), and "Nrn Csrn" = 666. I forget what all the numbers equal, but you.
Methinks Dan Rather is about as objective as Bill Clinton is picky about women. This guy writes as if big media journalists are objective heroes courageously asking hard questions in the foxholes on every topic. That is bullshit. Big media is so full of corporate and political whores that they are at least in the same league as the trade rags. Fox News reported today that the major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC) have run 179 stories so far on Condit, and only 14 have mentioned his political affiliation. If he were a Republican, I doubt that 14 out of 179 wouldn't mention his party affiliation. In fact, many journalists, including one on C-Span, have fucked up and said that Condit is a Republican in their reports. Some even called him a very conservative Republican!
B.S.! It's apathetic parents.
>No, this guy's right. The biggest reason for the decline in what the average person learns out of high school in this country is the decline in qualified teachers.