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Another $99 Web Terminal
An Anonymous Coward writes: "If anyone is looking for a fun $99 hacking project, Tiger direct has Compaq Ipaq's for $99, great little web browsing terminals, they support Flash, jJava, ActiveX. The parts (LCD screen etc) are probably worth more than this. You'll need to get a USB Ethernet adapter so you can use broadband." Tiger Direct seems to have a mixed reputation for service, but at under a hundred dollars, this looks pretty tempting even if only used as a digital photo frame, or an adjunct mail terminal.
It sounds like it beats a crappy old pentium router. Perhaps you could build an array of them to store your collection of mp3z or photographs of Tux ;)
Hmm a routing, mp3 playing Tux archive cluster, Teeheeheeheehee Oh Dear
;)
My friend has one of these ipaq devices, and he fitted it with a 20 gig laptop hard drive. That makes it rather expensive toy I guess, but it's really cool running linux. Think about one of these babies in your living room, streaming music to the stereo, checking email on the couch, maybe even controlling the tv with the right ir port. It'd be very cool.
The downside though - that hard drive makes a fair bit of heat meaning my friend can't run his ipaq for many more than twenty minutes at a time. A fan is definitely in order, but he lost interest in the project.
Any chance this could be used for some sort of wearcomp? Sounds like fun...
I bought my ThinkPad X20 from them for a great deal, and they treated me right.
When it came time for me to get a server for my Ph.D. research, they offered me educational pricing.
I'd rather have someone respond than be modded up.
Wow, the first to post, I must have gotten up too early... :)
I haven't even looked yet, but any good hacks for this beast? I'd for sure snag one with the USB ethernet adapter if I could browse w/out having to buy an MSN account...
These are okay, they're celeron 400s with 64MB of RAM. So-so box, but a big auction I went to, idiots were buying these [used] things up for hundreds a piece. Morons.
Aye aye aye aye, I am the Frito bandito.
Will FreeBSD or NetBSD run on this device?
Before this generates another spate of email about Linux and the IA-1, I have modified versions of Jailbait available on FBM.
They are for a 16MB CF card. Do this to put an image on the CF card:
dd if=image.img of=/dev/CF-DEVICE bs=1M
I will not tell you the root password. Boot single-user to not have to use the password, then do "passwd root" to change it.
You can boot single-user by adding the word "single" at the lilo prompt. For instance, "hdc single" -- where "hdc" is the lilo profile name.
Enjoy. The jailbait site has information on rebuilding Jailbait images.
p.s. avoid the Netgear EA101 USB Ethernet adapter, and perhaps any other adapter that uses the kaweth driver -- the hardware isn't reliable. Get a nice Pegasus adapter, like a D-Link.
Napster-to-go says "Fill and refill your compatible MP3 player", which is a lie. It's not MP3. It's WMA with DRM.
Here's a place that lists all the IA-1s specs along with other thin clients and PDAs.
Ugh, it was that that other Ipaq. Sorry, but this other one is useless, no offense.
Aye aye aye aye, I am the Frito bandito.
If you're lucky you can one cheaper on eBay.
$76
http://www.thehungersite.com
What would be nice is if someone were able to make a boot floppy or boot ROM for a NIC so that this machine could be used with the Linux Terminal Server Project (LTSP) or some similar software. At $100, it would be great for use in schools, libraries, internet cafes, and other places where little more than a browser is needed and the additional components of a PC such as a hard drive and multiple removable media drives are more of a hassle than anything else.
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Worst case I can use the LCD display with something else.
Does anyone have links to modify/hack information?
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Does anyone know where to get the Compaq IA-2 for cheap? I like the big monitor it's got, like a 15-incher. Honestly, it looks like an iMac: http://athome.compaq.com/showroom/static/iPAQ/inta ppliance2.asp
It seems like this would make a good kitchen PC (the screen's bigger and much easier to see), or if the processor were powerful enough, a digital TV type thing (playing downloaded music videos of course!)
Photos of bits of the past hiding in the present: afiler.com
Compare to $299 elsewhere! At my unholy place of employment we sell these for $99 in the store - with a multi-year contract to MSN.
Are we sure they're not doing this?
It uses passport and hotmail as the e-mail account!?!
Great for $99 I am going to learn things like where to find cheap viagra and how to increase my bust size as well as find Hot Horny 18 year olds.
Sounds like a great present to give to someone.
I've been looking for a cheap LCD screen that accepts VGA. Looks like this would need a lot of hacking to get it to work. Anyone know where I _can_ get a cheap VGA LCD?
Is it possible to use a different ISP than MSN?
If so, I'm buying several for friends...
When you go to the page at TigerDirect.com, notice the heading of the product: Compaq iPaq IA-1 Home Internet Appliance (Recertified). What exactly does "recertified" refer to? Was this product possibly defective and returned for service? I have never had any luck with recertified or that other "R" word: refurbished. Just a warning!
I heard that you had to use MSN for the net access on these things (even with a USB ethernet adapter) -- if you're just running the base, non-hacked model. I can't find any specifics on the Tiger site other than sales speak.
Anyone know about that for sure from first hand experience? It sounds like a good coffee-table net box for web browsing even with the basic setup.
Thanks for the help.
When the power is off, the screen becomes a digital photo frame
When the power is off, the screen becomes a digital photo frame
hmm..
it seems that tiger is trying to list everything twice for double ratings.
I know its not "industry wide" accepted yet but this would be great with USB2 instead.. :), USB Video In/Out adapter (when you need to break out in a Xbox Session in the middle of the woods or capture / output to a TV you home videos)
For $99, I'd be cutting a big hole in my dash board for a new 10" LCD, a measly 10 GB laptop HDD (for MP3's, Conectivity,emu's, ect) USB adapter for digital phone, for GPS or Map/direction finding, USB Game pads
Just a thought...
I'd also have to shell out some $$ for a new security system also, but it'd be worth it..
Look at the features section:
"Flashing light alerts you of incoming e-mail!"
This baby is just packed with features.
Ok, I must admit what if they would ship it to my Country, I would buy it in a flash.
I think that people are always going to inherently see karma as a reward, just because of the nature of how it is handed out (good comments == +ve karma, lots of karma == post at 2)
It also doesn't help that the posting section in the faq takes the stanve of karma being a reward - why else all of the 'post early, post often' etc. If you don't care about karma, why would you be so concerned about posting early, and if you only posted because you had a good point to make, why would you post more often?
Same comments as previous poster about moderation of this comment - except I'm happy for it to slip to 0.
PS. I should make clear that I agree with you - karma shouldn't be viewed as a reward. I was just giving some reasons why people see to think it is.
If I nfs mount a drive after boot, can I run X? Also, what about sound support? I'm thinking this would make a nice cheap ogg terminal if I can rig up a simple UI and plug my stereo into it.
IAAL,BIANLY
According to CNET's Review, while you can use another ISP you still have to pay MSN a $9.95 monthly fee. I don't know if this still applies, but be forewarned.
As far as Tiger Direct having a mixed rep, I've never really had any problems out of them, and I've ordered a lot of things from them.
From the "feature list":
Use your own ISP!
(Does not support AOL/Compuserve)
Yeah, you're free to use any ISP as long as it's called MSN.
Sorta trick question, "3 letter isp, starts with M and ends with SN".
At first I thought it was a great deal too, and immediatley bought an IA-1. However, if you read the fine print (I think it was from MS's web site), you still are required to have an MSN account (at $9 / month) even if you use your own provider.
I haven't found any information on how to bypass it to get the WinCE OS supplied with it to dial-up to my ISP. If you're looking for an Internet appliance to put Linux or to install some other OS, this could be the ticket. Otherwise, don't bother, unless there is a hack of the WinCE OS out there. It's not worth the effort.
MSK
Has anyone checked with Tiger direct about the actual price? I just called and it looks like you may still have to buy 2 years of MSN to get the $99 price tag. The guy I talked to (George) didn't seem very knowledgeable, though. Any info about the status of buying the online serveice would be nice.
-A
I just bought 3 (the max), along with one USB/ethernet adapter. I'll try one out, and maybe keep it, and use the other two for gifts (my grandfather definately would like this).
Does anyone know if you can run VNC on these things? Also, does anyone know how loud they are? If they're nice and quiet, ethernetable, and can run VNC, I think I have a new desktop (stick my current loud desktop in the closet).
to all the people thinking xterm... why bother? Just go vnc! I use that on my audreys... it's much more reliable, and the only speed problems are if I try to animate something (which cheap LCDs aren't good for anyway)
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These are refurbished models, meaning they were broken at one point, returned to the factory, and fixed, but then never sold again.
So, Caveat Emptor; you may never have a problem with your unit, but from my experience with refurbished items, I will never buy another refurb/recertified product again. (read: would work for about a week, then need fixing again) You'd be better off checking on ebay to see if you can get a deal on a new item, if you really want one of these.
No, I called them... it merely uses your local ISP as a dial in to the MSN network... it doesn'y support normal browsing, just MSN "Special" browsing... (this thing is 'Special' it rode the short bus to school)
Tiger Direct seems to have a mixed reputation for service
Having bought a bunch of Audrey's off them and following the hacking community at linux-hacker.net I'd just like to put in a positive word for Tiger Direct. They have treated us well with the Audrey's, taking back defective units even though they expicitly said up front when you bought them that they were not returnable. They repeatedly asked the board for input and comment on pricing and product offerings and finally sold off all the returned machines (some of which there was nothing wrong with) for parts at a dirt cheap price. I would not hesitate to deal with them again.
The difference between Canada and the USA is that in Canada healthcare is a right and gun ownership is a privilege.
How much is slashdot being paid to advertise these products?
Think of Slashdot as a benevolent God making some random interventions to the otherwise darwinian tech market.
Use your own ISP! (Does not support AOL/Compuserve) typical MS hah hah
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About one month ago I looked into buying my grandmother an internet device. I debated the Folowing a 486 win QNX runing on it(fast enough for web browsing a geting e-mail), an old pentium win linux on it(tried and true works with out any problems), an old pentium win win95 on it (would work ok as long as she didn't add any new programs but would be going against my beter jugment), a dreamcast (they cost 70$ hear in canada and they come with a key board), and one of theis babies.
I ended up being realy torn betwean the dreamcast and the I-paq. The dreamcast had the added bonus of being able to play games in 3d, plus to give it java compatabilty it would only cost 20$ us. I would then be able to us it a VNC terminal (thanks to vnc's jave aplet viewer). On the other hand the I-paq was a stand alone device and that would apeal to her since it's more like an other apliance (microwave, stove, blender, fax, tv).
Does anyone know if you can run this at 640x480 as is? I'm thinking of getting it for my aging mother-in-law and I'm not sure if 800x600 on a 10-inch screen will be readable by her. Thanks!
it doesn't use LISP as it's main OS, it might be a viable alternative to the more expensive computer system. The only thing that I don't like about it, is that a suscription to MSN is required to get the rebate (as is the way with many of today's computers). I say just go out there and build you own instead! Make your hate for LISP known throughout the world by building your own anti-LISP box! You can do it!
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If you're interested in knowing what kinds of hacks are available before purchasing one of these then take a look at the Linux Hacker BBS Forums.
Could I hack this to let my video output cable for my Dreamcast plug into the LCD screen? I currently have the two audio cables from the DC going into my hi-fi system... adding an LCD would rawk. Is this even remotely possible?
So, Caveat Emptor; you may never have a problem with your ebay dealing, but from my experience with online auctioned items, I will never buy another item from an online auction site again. (read: You may not get ripped off most of the time, but if you buy enough items you will) You'd be better off buying a refurbished product to see if you can get a deal on a new item, if you really want one of these.
Online auctions are not that great. There is no fraud protection unless you pay for it. Paypal is not fraud protection.
Out of curiosity why would your grandmother need to play DreamCast? Typically most 70+ females tend to stay away from video games. Grandma's drive at like 10 miles per hour. Could you imagine her trying to play Crazy Taxi? It would be a friggin nightmare!
A rabbit in the hand is worth 4 in the cage
I'm trying to order one right now and it seems they've been /.ed. I just hope they haven't run out of them before my secure page actually renders. Basterds :)
put the what in the where?
So, you want to hack it?
Well then I'd start here if I were you:t raBoard.pl
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/Ul
On this web-board, it's called the MSN Companion.
Random signature string.
Wow, that's much for 100$
Anyone know of where to get it in the UK?
zadok.org.uk
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/Ult raBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=MSNCompanion&Post =85&Idle=0&Sort=0&Order=Descend&Page=0&Session=
Doh!
U lt raBoard.pl?Action=ShowPost&Board=MSNCompanion&Post =85
These are better links
http://iahack.tripod.com/
http://www.linux-hacker.net/cgi-bin/UltraBoard/
Symbolics is actually extremely relevant as one of the organizations indirectly responsible for the creation of the Free Software Foundation; Richard Stallman points to Symbolics hiring away nearly all of the hackers from the AI lab , this being one of the events that led to RMS' later actions.
A number of projects have since tried to build environments with tightly-integrated Lisps; none have been much more than curiosities.
The other major linkage is that the bulk of the members of the Unix Haters "cabal" were folks that hated Unix not simply in abstract, but rather in comparison to Lisp environments like Symbolics/Genera.
I'm not sure how this all would connect to the "Anti-Lisp" notions of the Anonymous Coward. Just as the Unix Haters Handbook presents very little about what they would propose as a preferable alternative to Unix, the AC doesn't present any information as to what he would prefer to Lisp.
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
I'm still running that old old version of Jailbait... can this new version be flashed onto the IO?
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I wonder if Visual Basic 6 apps will work with winCE? Also, does it use the windows media player? Attaching a usb harddrive for an mp3/video player, hang it on a wall, wireless keyboard...Do i have to sign up for some BS MSN internet service to get it for 99$?
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Seems to be...but comments from those familiar with LTSP.
A firewall can not protect you from yourself. Turn off what you do not need. Do not use the firewall to do your work.
Now it's on debian-sid with gnome running nicely (Trident video driver). USB networking fine (2.4.16 kernel with kaweth and pegasus both rolled in for 3com usb + linksys adapters).
The only outstanding item I've not been able to get working is the audio chip. Here's a link on what it is. The annoying bit is support for this does exist in the current 2.4.16 a97 codec drivers but via an intel i810-type chip. This is AMD based.
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess? - Joshua (Wargames)
so that could be at least one reason for not supporting it as you couldn't really slap a AOL cd in or anything and as I don't remember there being a hard drive in it, just a little flash memory, then you would not be able to even load the software. You could probably easily use earthlink or any local dial up ISP that you are partial too.
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Tiger Direct seems to have a mixed reputation for service
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Here is Tiger Direct's Reseller Ratings rating table:
Overall Score for Tiger Direct:2.8/7.0
These are in yes/no form:
Do you feel that you received a fair/competitive price for the item that you purchased from the company? 110/22
Were the salespeople courteous, knowledgable, and helpful? 43/72
If the product you purchased was shipped to you, did it arrive as expected without any delivery problems or delays caused by the company? 72/60
If you returned a product to the company for exchange or refund, did they exchange the product without a big hassle or refund your money without a large restocking fee? 10/64
Would you buy any products from the company again? 41/90
Would you recommend the company to a friend? 37/93
Overall, were you satisfied with this company? 43/92
Link:
http://www.resellerratings.com/cgi-bin/reseller/v
Note: I've never used Tiger Direct nor do I know anything about them. I'm merely stating the information found on the website mentioned above.
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Thanks. That should help with most sites. For some reason though, I've run into a lot of sites where changing the font size in my browser had no effect. Regardless, one's ordered and on its way. I hope /. enjoys its 3% ;-P
Anyone got one of these to work with 802.11B?
I wouldn't mind getting one of these and sticking it on my living room coffee table for the guests and drunkers that come over and try and use one of laptops while I'm working. (come-on man, lemme check my hotmail!) I got the whole network (cept for the gaming rig) setup on the wireless and I don't want to run ethernet back into the living room after I just got rid of it.
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I had similar thing - gateway connected touchpad.
ITs got touchscreem,400mhz transmeta cpu, built in ethernet/hpna card, 2 usb ports, modem, sound etc etc. You can pick em up cheap on ebay (sub 100).
It has more features for the same price -
lcd screen with touchpad, sound, 400mhz crusoe, built in ethernet/hpna, 2 usb ports and a modem. You get lot more bang for the money and it works well with 9mm laptop hdds
You'll never purchase a thing from Tiger Direct.
"Under no circumstances will I ever purchase anything offered to me as the result of an unsolicited email message. Nor will I forward chain letters, petitions, mass mailings, or virus warnings to large numbers of others. This is my contribution to the survival of the online community."
The only good thing I can say is they gave a prompt refund.
Rick B.
For some reason though, I've run into a lot of sites where changing the font size in my browser had no effect.
This is a problem with CSS. The CSS standard has no common way to specify font sizes for each monitor resolution. Specifying font sizes in points makes fonts look tiny on Macintosh computers, whose default logical display resolution is 72 dpi instead of 96 dpi. Specifying font sizes in pixels disables the "larger/smaller" buttons.
Will I retire or break 10K?
Does anyone know if you can run this at 640x480 as is?
No. Unlike CRT technology, LCD technology has discrete pixels, one to each set of three transistors. Rescaling an input produces ugly blockiness or blurriness instead of the exact aliasing that hinted fonts rely on.
Will I retire or break 10K?
If i had a tv tuner card on a remote computer, does the proper software exist to turn this into a tv set? Any suggestions?
Go here Despite it's name the message boards are pretty OS agnostic
Personally I want a eVilla.
Oh hey, I own a Philips Rush MP3 player. Anybody got a Linux distro for that?
While it's fun to think about modifying these appliances to run Linux in your kitchen (or whatever), it's important to remember that if you're really looking to put together something useful -- as opposed to re-engineering an iPaq or iOpener for the hack value -- you're probably better off getting a bargain-basement used laptop. Most of us here already have a home LAN, a Linux server, and a broadband connection, right? You don't really need a very beefy laptop to accomplish the "appliance" task. Enough memory to run X and perhaps a local browser, a color display, something to boot from, and an Ethernet adapter. I've got an old AST Ascentia J over here, complete with its wonderous 16 MB RAM and 500 MB disk. But it's got a usable color display and a built-in pointer. The battery was shot so I just threw it away. A call to /sbin/hdparm keeps the hard disk from spinning except when it's being used, so it's easy on power too.
Think twice and you can save some money. No special tinkering required.
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My grandmother actually used to look forward to inheriting my old game systems. She first got hooked on Frogger back in the 2600 days and still has a GameBoy that keeps her entertained.
Personally I wouldn't have believed it myself either until I saw her getting into it one day. Almost like some kind of funny commercial.
She's up in her 90's now though and while she dosen't get into many games anymore she still pulls the gameboy out from time to time!
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See above.
These remind me of Sun Javastations, cheap (under $100) and not very useful until you install linux on them ;)
You can get a USB ethernet adaptor and then you can use broadband
This is one that isn't on the product support list for the iPaq, but it is only $22 through Buy.com. It's the COMPEX EU202 LINKPORT USB 10/100Mbps FAST ETHERNET USB ADAPTER, and it seems to have the smallest form factor of any of the USB Ethernet adapters I've looked at. It's the same form factor/size as one of USB memory drives, and doesn't hang off a cable like most of the others.
Anyone have experience with this adapter? Are their any Linux drivers that wil run it? From googling the web I found Linux drivers for the PCMCIA card version of it so it would seem that the chipset is likely the same and might work with Linux.
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Canada? Seems like their online account application form is US centric.
If so, please let me know how you did this....
What processor is in this puppy?
And the IA-2.
What's worse is that I've sent them several emails regarding this security issue, and they've ignored me. The hole still exists to this day. So unless you want the world to know a whole lot more about you than they probably need to, I'd suggest finding another online retailer to buy from.
Many sites use images containing text instead of actual text. And the stupid ones don't have ALT tags, making them impossible to navigate in text-only mode. (Okay, it's been years since I used text-only mode, but I still think it should be supported).
Just what I need, another project... Not that it isn't tempting mind you. I'm looking at this, saying "99 bucks isn't much, looks like a perfect little hacking toy" thinking of the possibilities for a Linux appliance... ssh from the bedroom or something, for those late-night (or early morning) emergencies.
Then I remember that I have three old PC's and two old laptops sitting in the closet that are ALSO perfect for this and I'll never get around to those, either.
I use Compuserve as an ISP, and except for a funny login sequence, the IP stack is standard. Works fine on Linux once I set up the login script in kppp.
So, I wonder whether the same is true for AOL.
Compaq planned to sell the device in two ways:
Normal customers would be able to buy it in
a shop with a version of Windows for IAs
(not exactly WinCE).
The other idea was the have the stuff branded
for companies like f.e. Consors. And those
would provide the device for free for premium
customers. This version would have run on BeIA
(although the device was to be so thoroughly
branded that nobody could tell).
I don't know whether they still plan to make
use of the second idea. But obviously BeIA
woldn't be on it.
You wouldn't want this anyway. Converting the signal from analog back into digital for the LCD screws everything up. I just got a new computer at the office with an LCD display, at first we had it hooked up to the analog VGA port on the card and it looked worse than a regular CRT. After we got the direct digital connection going everything was much clearer.
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Just in case you really did want to know and were afraid to ask, it's called "Jailbait" because it's under 16 (megs). ;)
I'm getting one, I'll probably try to get NetBSD to run on it. My thinking is to use the CF card to store a kernel, but to use NFS for all the real disk space.
Looks to me like a very cute little x terminal. Anyone know if the memory is upgradeable?
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First of all, it runs MSN messanger. (which supposedly can be changed)
Second, there is a 9.95/month surcharge to use an ISP other than MSN Here is some linkage to compaq to prove it, athome.compaq.com Follor the "2" below the asterisk at the bottom
Third of all, there is a 9.95/month surcharge for using the broadband adapter (check the same linkage, but number 3)
There are other reasons as well, but here is an alternative: The 3com Audrey. It runs QNX, there are lots of hacks and stuff for QNX, it doesn't have those freaking monthly fees, it looks cooler, it has the light up stylus etc etc etc...to see more of my reasons, go to JesusGeeks.net. The 3com audrey is OOP, but it is a sweet machine. My friend got it off (ironic?) TigerDirect a few months ago, but unfortunately they don't have it there anymore. THere are lots of ebay offeres for it. The only changes I would want with an Audrey is a full size keyboard.
The anti-salmon
Tiger Direct are criminals. Just troll any
vendor reviewer site. Whoever posted this needs
to check themselves.
Anyway, if TD has them, somebody else does too.
I'd buy one from a street vendor first. At least
you can smell if they've washed themselves lately.
Flame away, you 20%.
This is not the best example, 'cause $99 is cheep for an LCD screen, but heres a thought. YOU ARE ALL WASTING YOUR TIME.
Heare me out - I'm not trying to flame.
The same person that has the skills to flash a operating system kernel onto a CF card, boot from it in single user mode, reset the password, reboot and the get the system to load a new kernal from an NFS mount point is worth at least $60 per hour. Spend two hours doing this and you've broken even and haven't leaned much.
I'm absolutly depressed to think that there are clever people that muck around all day, pissing around with cruddy hardware, when they could be out makeing a bunch of money, making people lives easier, meeting people and have just as much fun as before. If you can do this - replacing NT servers with SAMBA servers is a peice of cake, OpenBSD fire walls are simple and PostgreSQL is a toy.
I have a very good friend who, like a lot of people here, is very smart and can do all sorts of wacky stuff - unfortunalty he isen't working at a decent job and is suffering for it.
If you can do this hack and don't have a decent paying job that you love to do - do the hack, have fun. Then, bath and put on some decent clothing, go forth and conquer.
Moneyed corporations, non-working 'poor' and criminal prisoners are turning productive citizens into tax-slaves.
no shit---the post says that. he's giving his opinion of them. who cares?
Heh...
I just picked one of these up a few weeks ago from www.ubid.com for $70. I have seen them go as low as $60.
You should be able to bargain for a pIII 500 with some IDE and a case for about $100. The amount of hardware crap you are going to have to do on this HIGHLY propriety machine. Without any bootable IO?? this is a pointless project. Wait 6 months for a Normal PC with a flatscreen that sells for $500-600. BTW, how does PPC linux happen. Since, apple's machines are also highly proprietary...they must have a department specifically for linux....in the pre-OSX days (and probably weening out now).
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Not to mention that the guy who made it is named Jeffrey Baitis, and he goes by "jbaitis".
But anyway, can this distribution be safely used on the IOpener? Jailbait 6.0 has all kidns of beta stuff in it, like a beta kernel and very beta USB ethernet drivers. Is all that stuff up to date now?
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Why does this thing need volitile storage at all,,, instant this thing just a overgrown plam pilot with the disadvantage that you can't put it in you pocket. Just load all the programs into memory from a wedsite or something and your set. I am of the philosophy that hardware design is just 50% on any products design.
And that's why she still can have fun.
You go grandma!
You are being MICROattacked, from various angles, in a SOFT manner.
Bwahahahaha..."Operating System: MSN Companion which provides content and Internet Access through MSN"... this is sooo silly.
But I bet you'll be able to put Linux in it.
Ciryon
Yucky Compaq.
I was building a PC and used TigerDirect as a price-check site. I am pretty familiar with wholesale/retail and wanted to buy from a level of risk a bit lower than them, but I wanted to create a good enough model of what something was worth so I could make a pricing decision; leaving the service, etc. the only thing left as far as choosing a supplier goes.
So I ended up on their weekly mailing list (I subscribed). I figured a month or so while I was shopping would be useful,and it was.
Now, unsubscribing was not so easy. For whatever reason (incompetence, deliberate spamming, or plain ignorance) they sent mail to my webmail address in duplicate. One was addressed as I entered it (EG: me@mymail.com), which is correct; while a duplicate "showed up" in uppercase (EG: ME@MYMAIL.COM). When I tried to unsubscribe, the uppercase addresses were essentially unsubscribe-able, because the return address in the header was always (as it should be) in lowercase.
I couldn't block the sender, because each weekly edition came from a "new" sender.
It took a lot of ranting and raving, on multiple occasions, before they finally took me off their list.
Does anyone know if this machine is available outside the US for the same price?
:-)
If it would be available in Germany I would buy one
wooowwww L33T!!!
just imagine a beowulfcl... *SLAP*
I'm curious-- since the iAppliance runs a flavor of WinCE 3 as its native OS, and it sounds like this system uses an Intel-compatible CPU, can I run a "normal" windows app on this system? My vision for this system is to load up a VT terminal emulator on it and use it as a replacement for the various hardware terminals for my VAX and HP3000 collection.... But it would be great if I could do this at minimal cost, thus my desire to leave the system as "plain" as possible-- the iA is $99, but I don't want to have to buy more CF cards, etc.
--ac
Maybe she's into Dance Dance Revolution.
How is the parent offtopic? It specifies the reason why some web sites with small text do not look good on LCD panels such as the one in the $99 web terminal. It's on-topic both in the context of its parent and in the context of the whole discussion. The metamoderators will have your ass.
On the tigerdirect site:
Display: 10.1" HPA flat panel color display
800 x 600 dpi resolution
A 10" screen is about 8x6 inches so at 800x600DPI, that would be a 6400x3600 pixel screen. And at over 1200DPI, clearly better than print.
And I'm staring at a measly 1280x1024...
Roger.