>Because the introduction of the Xbox has ennervated the games >industry, like it or not. > > Yeah, because the Xbox turned out to be such a total flop in the Console Gaming Market. What you had was Microsoft telling PC game developers that they could port their PC Games (FPS shooters and other crap) and they would fly off the store shelves like hotcakes. Guess what? Didn't happen, and a lot of the morons who bet on the Xbox are now scared stiff.
>All you Anti-MS zealots have your fun picking on MS, but don't destroy >the game market in the process. > > How would this destroy the *CONSOLE* game market? Sony and Nintendo is all that really matters. Pretty much nobody in the Console market cares about the crap released for the Xbox other than the lame PC gamer reviewers who mostly review/play FPS shooters. I got a real laugh after reading a PC gamer review of what I assume was the japanese version of Armored Core 3 for the PS2. He was whining because AC3 pretty much still uses the same controls as the older PS1/PS2 AC games which means AC3 doesn't use the Analog joysticks for movement of the head and walking around. His whine basically was "It makes playing the game too hard." What a total wuss.
>This isn't about money. All those Free Software projects (I partially >count Java to it in respect of Community program) are enforced to >either pay huge license fees or take their product off the market. >Linux and Java without MP3 is, at the moment, a good proof many people >will stick to Windows and.NET. >In my opinion it's a good demonstration of how assholes work together > You're right. Windows and.NET users/developers *ARE* assholes. What are you afraid of? That the next generation of downloadable encoders/rippers won't be using MP3 as an format? You're right, for the most part they won't be. They'll be using Ogg as format of choise.
>I'm also 24 and casually heard many people refer to DDR, and never >really understood what it was. Recently I've seen a clip of some >_Grown Up_ people dancing in an arcade to some substandard techno >music and was blown away by the stupidity of it. >I too agree, this is a sad development. > > No what's really sad are you PC Gaming FPS Freaks. Get a Life. Better yet, Get a Date and take her to one of these arcades that have DDR.
>There will be a market for Linux games. It just needs to be given a >chance. Hardware drivers are very stable in Linux, and things like SDL >make it really easy to write cross platform games. Linux's OpenGL >implementation also seems faster than on Windows. It is growing as an >OS, and getting more users. You don't really think that they all want >to miss out on these games, do you? > > No there isn't a market for Linux Games. The reason there isn't is related to the fact that the market for PC Games is dying out thanks to the PS2 and GameCube. I don't need to run out and buy the Lastest and Fastest PC with an Nivida graphics card in order to run Linux and I'm *NOT* going to. This pretty much takes me out of the PC Gaming market. As for "missing out" on PC Games I don't play PC games now. Why would I start playing them in the future?
>It's easy to completely hose your dependencies by installing the wrong >.rpm. > Just because *YOU* happen to be a moron doesn't mean everyone else is......
>Totally agree. RedHat ethics good, but I can't understand why the >distro is so popular. It is surpassed by other distribution on every >dimension except size of user base. > No it isn't. People like RedHat because they know RedHat won't do things like include journaling filesystems that aren't ready for primetime use just to appease someone like you. Quite frankly I think SuSE and Mandrake suck. They seem too Amiga-ish in their approach, and that I think is going come back and bite them in the ass just it did Commodore. Whatever RedHat does, I don't see them making the kinds of mistakes Commodore and Atari did. That may piss off people like you,but who really gives a shit?
>Get real, ATI and Matrox suck shit. I'll use a working card, thanks. > > And bitch once again about how *cheap* they are when very few Linux users buy this game because most of them own ATI and Matrox graphics cards.
>I know I shouldn't be, but I'm stunned that so many slashdotters are >so quick to pounce on all KDE developers because of the comments made >by a few people. > > If the KDE developers you are talking about would stop,take a few moments and literly *BEAT THE BLOODY SHIT* out of Mosfet and a few others they wouldn't keep having the problems you are talking about.
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>t's not about promoting Linux, it's about promoting and controlling >your little cyber-kingdom and territory. > > KDE was *NEVER* about promoting Linux, it was about promoting Trolltech. What do you think the KDE dislike of Gnome was really about?
>Me, for one. Not anymore mind you, but I do hack on it when I get the >chance these days. > Ah. So you work for the anti-virus companies,eh? That explains your statement. Yes indeed.
>Sorry, Chancellor RMS forbids advertising clauses! > > Small wonder after idiots like you abused the hell out of them. Blame youself,not RMS.
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>It's not about survival of the fittest in this case: it's about "we >don't like KDE and so our user have to dislike KDE, too" > Wake up. The vast,vast majority of RedHat users *ALREADY* dislike KDE. The only thing people like you are doing is increasing their numbers.
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>Provided RedHat lets you continue to select the existing KDE themes >(should you so choose), I really don't see why this whole episode >should be an "issue"! > > Basically because this bunch KDE users are GUI whiners/wannabe UI designers who most likely last used an Amiga or BE. Notice that both pretty much tanked so these idiots flocked to KDE after most of the Gnome userbase basically told them to get lost. Most of these guys *aren't* really interested in linux per se, they want an platform where they can dictate to others what their UI designs and other things should be like. They basically don't like RedHat because RedHat is willing to stand up to them and say that their ideas suck.
>Take, for example, my neighbors kid. She's 14 and can't afford a $20 >CD so she asked her mom. Her mom says something like: "All her music >sounds the same. Just listen to the radio." > > Exactly. Listen to early Beatles music and compare it to the stuff they did before they broke up. You would almost swear that they were two diffrent bands. You'll never see anything like this from today's groups.
>I won't believe that Britney's albums are not selling as well as they >used to because everyone wants to get them for free. > It most likely has more to do with that Pesi ad that had that old pervert Bob Dole and his dog oggling Britney.......
>anybody riping and collecting works they don't pay for are simply >stealing > Wrong. A lot of the stuff people are downloading from P2P networks is stuff you can't either find or buy in stores anymore. You can't even find stuff like the orginal version of "Kung Foo Fighting" in most stores any more.
>nearly everytime something of this comes up I offer links to both >etree [etree.org] and FurthurNET [furthurnet.com] so that people can >experience artists that allow the free taping of their events. >These two sources are probably the best way to experience artists in >their element.
>Just seems like people would rather rape and pilage the P2P networks >instead. > > It more likely has more to do with your *ATTITUDE* I know I wouldn't want to visit or join anything that attracts people like you.
> Because they make DVD players and PS2s, so I'm sure no one here will >be bothered by Sony's actions. > > Why should it bother us? You can *STILL* make a copy of the music from the damn thing and it lets you RIAA and Microsoft supporter to continue deluding yourself that here people give a shit about you.
>I doubt they would launch an attack simply on the basis of a file name >and size. They would need to listen to the file to verify that it was >one to which they hold the copyright. >They may initially run a high-level 'finger-print' check and then >those that pass are given a more detailed examination, with a final >check being performed by someone actually listening to the track. >Political Correctness is doubleplusungood. > And if the file was encoded using an opensource encoders like LAME or older commerical software that doesn't support their high-level 'finger-print' checks and other stupidity? Each file will then have to be checked by hand. Imagine doing this for megabytes and megabytes of gnutella files. No these attacks will have to be based on filenames to have a ghost of chance of working.
> And the RIAA is going to DoS attack a system for having fake MP3s? >Riiight. What would possess them to do that: claim of copyright over >the song titles in the filenames? >The RIAA's hired guns would have to be braindead to fall for such a >honeypot. > > They *ARE* braindead because using filenames is pretty much the only way their attack system can work. Otherwise they'll be attacking every system that has files created by an opensource encoder or older commerical software.
>Here is a page which lists Gaming Sites and their ratings of Kohan. > Like non-PC Gamers take Gaming Sites and their game ratings seriously. We're *smarter* than that.........
>So, what's the bitch about this now? I can't see any. >Will Linux users buy these games and support the company? Will there >be a ground swell of interest/sales for these games, causing other >companies to look more seriously at games for Linux? Or, will Linux >users bitch and moan about some petty detail, not buy the games, cause >the company to abandon Linux games completely and doom the entire >Linux gaming industry forever. > > In a era when you have machines like the PS2 and the GameCube selling for $199 and $150 respectivly, whats's the point of playing PC Games that doesn't interest you even under Linux? I quite frankly haven't seen a game released by a PC Game developer in the last 5 years or so that I was interested in buying or playing. On the other I've seen scores of PS1 and PS2 games like Parasite Eve games and the Armored Core series. Face it, PC Games and PC Gaming has lost it's appeal for a lot of people,and more and more you're seeing more and more non-PC Gamers chosing Linux. Hate to break it to you but you PC Gamers aren't going to see a lot of Linux users running out to join you silly PC Gaming Tribes and other nonsense like that. There's nothing petty about not giving a shit about something and a lot of people who run Linux don't give a shit about PC Gaming or PC Gamers like *YOU*. Get over it and get a life.
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>Because the introduction of the Xbox has ennervated the games
>industry, like it or not.
>
>
Yeah, because the Xbox turned out to be such a total flop in the Console Gaming Market. What you had was Microsoft telling PC game developers that they could port their PC Games (FPS shooters and other crap) and they would fly off the store shelves like hotcakes. Guess what? Didn't happen, and a lot of the morons who bet on the Xbox are now scared stiff.
>All you Anti-MS zealots have your fun picking on MS, but don't destroy
>the game market in the process.
>
>
How would this destroy the *CONSOLE* game market? Sony and Nintendo is all that really matters. Pretty much nobody in the Console market cares about the crap released for the Xbox other than the lame PC gamer reviewers who mostly review/play FPS shooters. I got a real laugh after reading a PC gamer review of what I assume was the japanese version of Armored Core 3 for the PS2. He was whining because AC3 pretty much still uses the same controls as the older PS1/PS2 AC games which means AC3 doesn't use the Analog joysticks for movement of the head and walking around. His whine basically was "It makes playing the game too hard." What a total wuss.
>So I pay 200 so Microsoft loses 150? how is that going to work?
>
>
Xbox supporters aren't exactly the brightest bulbs around.....
>This isn't about money. All those Free Software projects (I partially .NET. .NET users/developers *ARE* assholes.
>count Java to it in respect of Community program) are enforced to
>either pay huge license fees or take their product off the market.
>Linux and Java without MP3 is, at the moment, a good proof many people
>will stick to Windows and
>In my opinion it's a good demonstration of how assholes work together
>
You're right. Windows and
What are you afraid of? That the next generation of downloadable encoders/rippers won't be using MP3 as an format? You're right, for the most part they won't be. They'll be using Ogg as format of choise.
>I'm also 24 and casually heard many people refer to DDR, and never
>really understood what it was. Recently I've seen a clip of some
>_Grown Up_ people dancing in an arcade to some substandard techno
>music and was blown away by the stupidity of it.
>I too agree, this is a sad development.
>
>
No what's really sad are you PC Gaming FPS Freaks. Get a Life. Better yet, Get a Date and take her to one of these arcades that have DDR.
>There will be a market for Linux games. It just needs to be given a
>chance. Hardware drivers are very stable in Linux, and things like SDL
>make it really easy to write cross platform games. Linux's OpenGL
>implementation also seems faster than on Windows. It is growing as an
>OS, and getting more users. You don't really think that they all want
>to miss out on these games, do you?
>
>
No there isn't a market for Linux Games. The reason there isn't is related to the fact that the market for PC Games is dying out thanks to the PS2 and GameCube. I don't need to run out and buy the Lastest and Fastest PC with an Nivida graphics card in order to run Linux and I'm *NOT* going to. This pretty much takes me out of the PC Gaming market. As for "missing out" on PC Games I don't play PC games now. Why would I start playing them in the future?
>It's easy to completely hose your dependencies by installing the wrong .
>.rpm
>
Just because *YOU* happen to be a moron doesn't mean everyone else is......
>Totally agree. RedHat ethics good, but I can't understand why the
>distro is so popular. It is surpassed by other distribution on every
>dimension except size of user base.
>
No it isn't. People like RedHat because they know RedHat won't do things like include journaling filesystems that aren't ready for primetime use just to appease someone like you. Quite frankly I think SuSE and Mandrake suck. They seem too Amiga-ish in their approach, and that I think is going come back and bite them in the ass just it did Commodore. Whatever RedHat does, I don't see them making the kinds of mistakes Commodore and Atari did. That may piss off people like you,but who really gives a shit?
>Get real, ATI and Matrox suck shit. I'll use a working card, thanks.
>
>
And bitch once again about how *cheap* they are when very few Linux users buy this game because most of them own ATI and Matrox graphics cards.
>I know I shouldn't be, but I'm stunned that so many slashdotters are
>so quick to pounce on all KDE developers because of the comments made
>by a few people.
>
>
If the KDE developers you are talking about would stop,take a few moments and literly *BEAT THE BLOODY SHIT* out of Mosfet and a few others they wouldn't keep having the problems you are talking about.
>t's not about promoting Linux, it's about promoting and controlling
>your little cyber-kingdom and territory.
>
>
KDE was *NEVER* about promoting Linux, it was about promoting Trolltech. What do you think the KDE dislike of Gnome was really about?
>Me, for one. Not anymore mind you, but I do hack on it when I get the
>chance these days.
>
Ah. So you work for the anti-virus companies,eh? That explains your statement. Yes indeed.
>Sorry, Chancellor RMS forbids advertising clauses!
>
>
Small wonder after idiots like you abused the hell out of them. Blame youself,not RMS.
>It's not about survival of the fittest in this case: it's about "we
>don't like KDE and so our user have to dislike KDE, too"
>
Wake up. The vast,vast majority of RedHat users *ALREADY* dislike KDE. The only thing people like you are doing is increasing their numbers.
>Provided RedHat lets you continue to select the existing KDE themes
>(should you so choose), I really don't see why this whole episode
>should be an "issue"!
>
>
Basically because this bunch KDE users are GUI whiners/wannabe UI designers who most likely last used an Amiga or BE. Notice that both pretty much tanked so these idiots flocked to KDE after most of the Gnome userbase basically told them to get lost. Most of these guys *aren't* really interested in linux per se, they want an platform where they can dictate to others what their UI designs and other things should be like. They basically don't like RedHat because RedHat is willing to stand up to them and say that their ideas suck.
Outside of the total lusers otherwise known as PC Gamers, is there actually anybody left who take benchmark testing seriously?
>Take, for example, my neighbors kid. She's 14 and can't afford a $20
>CD so she asked her mom. Her mom says something like: "All her music
>sounds the same. Just listen to the radio."
>
>
Exactly. Listen to early Beatles music and compare it to the stuff they did before they broke up. You would almost swear that they were two diffrent bands. You'll never see anything like this from today's groups.
>I won't believe that Britney's albums are not selling as well as they
>used to because everyone wants to get them for free.
>
It most likely has more to do with that Pesi ad that had that old pervert Bob Dole and his dog oggling Britney.......
>anybody riping and collecting works they don't pay for are simply
>stealing
>
Wrong. A lot of the stuff people are downloading from P2P networks is stuff you can't either find or buy in stores anymore. You can't even find stuff like the orginal version of "Kung Foo Fighting" in most stores any more.
>nearly everytime something of this comes up I offer links to both
>etree [etree.org] and FurthurNET [furthurnet.com] so that people can
>experience artists that allow the free taping of their events.
>These two sources are probably the best way to experience artists in
>their element.
>Just seems like people would rather rape and pilage the P2P networks
>instead.
>
>
It more likely has more to do with your *ATTITUDE* I know I wouldn't want to visit or join anything that attracts people like you.
> Because they make DVD players and PS2s, so I'm sure no one here will
>be bothered by Sony's actions.
>
>
Why should it bother us? You can *STILL* make a copy of the music from the damn thing and it lets you RIAA and Microsoft supporter to continue deluding yourself that here people give a shit about you.
>I doubt they would launch an attack simply on the basis of a file name
>and size. They would need to listen to the file to verify that it was
>one to which they hold the copyright.
>They may initially run a high-level 'finger-print' check and then
>those that pass are given a more detailed examination, with a final
>check being performed by someone actually listening to the track.
>Political Correctness is doubleplusungood.
>
And if the file was encoded using an opensource encoders like LAME or older commerical software that doesn't support their high-level 'finger-print' checks and other stupidity? Each file will then have to be checked by hand. Imagine doing this for megabytes and megabytes of gnutella files. No these attacks will have to be based on filenames to have a ghost of chance of working.
> And the RIAA is going to DoS attack a system for having fake MP3s?
>Riiight. What would possess them to do that: claim of copyright over
>the song titles in the filenames?
>The RIAA's hired guns would have to be braindead to fall for such a
>honeypot.
>
>
They *ARE* braindead because using filenames is pretty much the only way their attack system can work. Otherwise they'll be attacking every system that has files created by an opensource encoder or older commerical software.
>Here is a page which lists Gaming Sites and their ratings of Kohan.
>
Like non-PC Gamers take Gaming Sites and their game ratings seriously. We're *smarter* than that.........
>So, what's the bitch about this now? I can't see any.
>Will Linux users buy these games and support the company? Will there
>be a ground swell of interest/sales for these games, causing other
>companies to look more seriously at games for Linux? Or, will Linux
>users bitch and moan about some petty detail, not buy the games, cause
>the company to abandon Linux games completely and doom the entire
>Linux gaming industry forever.
>
>
In a era when you have machines like the PS2 and the GameCube selling for $199 and $150 respectivly, whats's the point of playing PC Games that doesn't interest you even under Linux? I quite frankly haven't seen a game released by a PC Game developer in the last 5 years or so that I was interested in buying or playing. On the other I've seen scores of PS1 and PS2 games like Parasite Eve games and the Armored Core series. Face it, PC Games and PC Gaming has lost it's appeal for a lot of people,and more and more you're seeing more and more non-PC Gamers chosing Linux. Hate to break it to you but you PC Gamers aren't going to see a lot of Linux users running out to join you silly PC Gaming Tribes and other nonsense like that. There's nothing petty about not giving a shit about something and a lot of people who run Linux don't give a shit about PC Gaming or PC Gamers like *YOU*. Get over it and get a life.