I'm not sure on what basis top 10 were chosen but I feel the iMac should be a definate candidate. Not only did it revitalize a company struggling at the time (Apple) but it's the first computer I can think of that was considered by the general public to be cool looking and since the iMac showed it could be done computers have really become alot more stylish in appearance (whether for good or evil). I feel that for its popularity and effect on the modern computer industry the iMac deserves a spot.
What the hell else needs to be known besides the fact that a 12 year old girl died by his hand? I can't imagine what circumstances could change what should happen to him.
Did he plead guilty instead of forcing a trial? Did he turn himself in? Was he remorseful? Was there any kind of relationship between them? How old was he? Was he in his right mind (maybe someone slipped him some drugs which made him a little nuts)? Was it an accident (didn't mean to kill her but was too agressive)? Do you know anything other than the fact that the girl died?
None of these things come close to excusing what he did but they should certainly have an effect on what we determine to be his punishment and if it is possible to rehabilitate him. Maybe there is a way for him to actively contribute to society without providing a threat instead of contributing to the worlds largest prison population.
I don't know anything about the case, and I'm pretty sure you don't know much more. We know there was a rape and murder, and that's it. There are a ton of other factors like intent, circumstances, his age, etc, that we have no clue about. Maybe he deserves to still be in jail, but then again maybe he doesn't, and you or I don't have the information to make a judgement about that. However that didn't stop you and you've made your judgement based on inadequate information which is exactly the risk of this registry.
How about just taking them from the parents. After all our society neither allows a parent to discipline a child nor does it require a parent to be responsible for the child.
Actually this just might force the parents to take a little more responsibility. Instead of the kid buying the game by themselves then if the parent doesn't like it it is too late to return the game the kid is now forced to go through a parent (or other adult) to buy the game and the parent is now by necessity more invloved in the decision.
Do they actually do anything? I'm sure there's lots of instances where there was an online petition and changes were made but I doubt those changes were because of the petitions. Do decision makers even pay any attention to these petions or do they figgure that because an online petition is much easier to put a name to than any other type of feedback the names are fairly worthless and they just ignore the petition. It could even do damage if people who feel they want to do something just put their name to an online petition feeling they've made a difference and don't take any furthur action that could of actually had an effect.
I just was to iterate that I love Macs, expecially OS X, and to restrain your disbelief in that the events I'm about to relate are entirely factual! Just yestday day I was sitting around with a bunch of fellow compsci geeks in our undergrad lounge. Three of them were sitting in a row with their powerbooks and iBooks open and going away. Either way one of the guys isn't doing anything too intensive, just apparently writing a paper and playing some MP3s when suddenly his computer freezes and the speakers keep on playing about a half second snippet of the song so it was seriously going (don't know how else to write the sound) TCH TCH TCH TCH for about a minute until we finally recovered from our shock and realized that the mac had crashed(and this was OS X)! Now I can see your disbelief but this is a true story! Well either way having never encountered this scenerio before we finally decided to do a hard reboot but when it tried to start up it just beeped 3 times and the LED flashed four times, turns out this is a code for bad RAM (OS X is forgiven!) lukily the powerbook is still on warrenty but apparently he figgured he lost a good chunk of the paper he was writing!
Is it better for security researchers to avoid publicly criticizing e-voting flaws? Is public faith in the system more important than overall system security?"
Ummm. No. An educated public is one of the foundations of democracy, withholding information about vital flaws to the election system for the mere purpose of public faith is precisely contrary to this goal! Of course this should be disclosed, withholding this information cannot have any benefit to the public and can only lead us to a situation were these inexcusable flaws will be forgotten.
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Don't forget Kim Stanley Robinson's Mar's trilogy Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), hard SF at its finest. True it's a little long (looking at about 1800 pages of not very large print in total) but can't I've ever read such a complete series. The science and society was as extremely well thought out, there were no inconsistencies nor convenient amnesia of scientific laws or even loopholes, only slightly a couple times did I find myself having the slightest doubts about the technology but they were very slight. The social development while it seems odd a couple times is just as well mapped and as about as convincing as you can get when building a new culture. Normally when a story pulls the name of some classic writer or composer from our time I'm always a little skeptical (I don't think they'll be in common conversation in X centuries) yet I always find it even weirder when that make a referal to some alien or future work that I've never heard of an they've just made up on the spot. This story has no such problem as the culture is followed from the start and is entirely convincing and you feel right at home with it.
They're a not for the light reader but I feel they were worth every page.
How about respecting the dead? Is 'loss of tourism' really the best answer we can come up with to not open up two people's graves (at least one of whom is assuredly not Billy the Kid)?
What about the respect for Billy the Kid so that we know his true grave or out of respect for someone who we believe is someone else, maybe we may find out their true identity instead of remembering them as someone else. I believe in this case finding the truth would be respecting the dead.
Kuney said that Internet Explorer is a fruit, but Microsoft's Lacovar said that there is no evidence to show that.
I admit that I hate microsoft just as much as the next guy but reverting to this kind of name calling is just plain wrong.
Internet Explorer's preferences are its own buisness and nobody elses! We should all acknowledge Internet Explorer's decision to operate in whatever way it sees fit and allow it to use whatever plugins it enjoys. I know it acts a little differently than the other browsers but that's their choice to make and for what it's worth I support its decision and hope that despite all the Microsoft bashing the slashdot community chooses to show Internet Explorer no predjudice.
I mentioned the treatment of natives at the end of my statement. Perhaps I should also explain the term "relatively unsettled" as in relative to the Americans that land was unsettled, they didn't really care about the natives who lived there and just tried to wipe them out or force them onto reserves. Plus even with the aboriginals already there there was pleanty of room for both sides to coexist but "manifest destiny" would have it otherwise, still I stand by my statement that at that time the Americans considered that land to be relatively unsettled.
Um, the only thing *civilized* governments fear is people in the streets (not a correction to the quote, a correction to the idea). Take China, for instance. People marched in the street, and even stood up to tanks. Then they got mowed down by machine gun fire and were run over by the tanks.
Actually it sounds to me as if the Chinese government was very afraid, why else massacre the marchers? Unfortunately I don't have the information to know if those peoples deaths led to the chinese government trying to improve the situation so the same thing wouldn't happen again, or if fact if it caused them to tighten their grip so the same thing wouldn't happen again. One thing I do know is that the chinese government was truly afraid and I suspect they were extremely fortunate that they didn't lose power. You can fight a person, you can fight a group of people, you can even fight a large march as the chinese government showed, but what happens when you have to fight an entire city or even a nation? I strongly suspect if the protest had spread just a little more widely then China would be a very different place today. No the Chinese government was definately afraid.
According to John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, etc. the 2nd amendment (right to keep and bear arms) existed to keep gov't in check so a revolution wouldn't be necesary, but would be possible.
Is it any wonder the liberal line is to claim the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to "the people"?
Personally I think that guns for revolution in modern states are kind of obselete. True it can cause big problems for the military (as a previous poster mentioned of Iraq) but for a revolution in a modern country I've always thought of a line I once read in ones of Kim Stanley Robinson's Mar's trilogy books (can't remember if he got it from somewhere else), this might not be the exact quote but
"The only thing that governments fear is people in the streets"
Even the worst dictatorship relies on support from the people, if that choose not to obey then there is nothing a government can do.
Ah but what about the american revolution? Our dictatorship isn't exactly bloody...yet.
Afraid I'm not super familiar with the american revolution but I think I'd tend to classify it more as a liberation than a revolution. From what I understand British loyalists would of been a minority and probably socially segregated for the most part. Either way the actual battles would of generally been local militants against forgien military in a time when military technology was simple enough that both had an equal footing from an arms standpoint. Once the revolution was over the british military was not only gone but on the other side of an ocean (I suspect no practical chance to retake the colonies given that eras naval technology), some of the rest of the british loyalists moved up to Canada and in general the continent was relatively unsettled so places where local tensions were high people could find lots of open space to move to. As a result opposing sides who would have fought in what I would normally consider a revolution didn't haev to deal with eachother and to an extent were able to be removed from the country entirely, This effectively removed the major opposition that the US government faced so they didn't have to resort to a dictatorship to hold power as would of happened in a normal bloody revolution. These factors caused most of the post-revolution tensions that are normally supressed forcefully to be relatively small and not cause major problems (I don't know if any of this eventually helped cause your civil war) which is why I don't classify it as a true revolution.
All that being said the American government DID recieve a challenge of authority in the Natives and we all know how that turned out, whether you want to call that a "bloody dictatorship" is up to you...
...but you can't kill a revolution. You see this is why i favor revolution to voting. You don't run into these problems.
Yeah, I know it's a joke but I'll bite anyways. The problem with revolutions is that they tend to get a lot of other people killed as well, not just revolutionaries, in fact a lot more often than is desirable the people who win the revolution are not the people generally desired to lead but the ones who are most successful at killing the other side. Always remember dreams of perfect society + bloody revolution = bloody dictatorship
That being said there becomes a point where a political system degrades far enough some kind of revolution may be in the long term interest. If this Diebold problem isn't fixed fast (i.e.before the next US presidential election) than the US may find the foundations of their political system in very serious trouble. No I'm not saying you guys should have a revolution;) but don't rest until this issue is resolved in a manner that allows democracy to continue.
I don't mind eye-candy if it doesn't bog down the system and waste space. Did you see the explorer screenshots? I mean is there any way they could have wasted some more space?!? When I'm browsing my files I usually want to be able to see more than 5 of them at a time!!! I mean look at it, big useless images, 3 different places to click if you want to search, I'm assuming they'll fill up the rest of that filter frame with something but I can't see it not being a waste. Also what the heck does "Add/Remove Programs" have to to with file browsing?!? I'd go on longer but I don't think I'd ever finish, from a usability standpoint they just seem to be getting worse and worse, They've got to figgure out that when someone wants to look at their files they really do want to look at their files! The files seem as if they're the least important in the window. They're never going to catch Apple in usability with junk like this, and when I'm talking Apple I don't just mean OS X, I'm looking back to OS 7 too (I'd go back furthur but don't have experience with pre OS 7), as far as I'm concerned the buggy hulk of Mac OS 7 is FAR more usable than anything M$ has come out with to date and anything is more usable then the file browser shown in that screenshot.
> manipulate it. I am just waiting for the first Win viruses that kill LG > drives by exploiting this flaw in the firmware!
It might be the best thing to happen if some script kiddies latch onto this CDROM Drive hardware vulnerability and writea coupla' viruses that destroy CDROm drives; that would force LG to rectify this vulnerability (that's what it is). Then it's no longer anything to do with Linux / Mandrake:-)
Since when does/. put a link on the front page to a post that advocates writing viruses that destroys peoples hardware?!? It's not even that it was an important link that just happened to contain that information. There were numerous other, more informative posts that didn't advocate writing viruses that destroy hardware in the same thread that could of been linked just as easily. Why did the poster use that specific link and why did Michael post it!
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I'm not sure on what basis top 10 were chosen but I feel the iMac should be a definate candidate. Not only did it revitalize a company struggling at the time (Apple) but it's the first computer I can think of that was considered by the general public to be cool looking and since the iMac showed it could be done computers have really become alot more stylish in appearance (whether for good or evil). I feel that for its popularity and effect on the modern computer industry the iMac deserves a spot.
(disgruntled Tech student holding his pee)
while posting to
well I guess as long as I never have to sit in a chair you've just used
Hey I can see my website from here!!!
(it's the one with the dot)
Even if you stop supporting your product someone else can easily step in and support it instead. Nice to see the theory in action.
By my calcs (could easily be wrong) my UID should show up about 6.3 times, turned out to be 7.
What the hell else needs to be known besides the fact that a 12 year old girl died by his hand? I can't imagine what circumstances could change what should happen to him.
Did he plead guilty instead of forcing a trial? Did he turn himself in? Was he remorseful? Was there any kind of relationship between them? How old was he? Was he in his right mind (maybe someone slipped him some drugs which made him a little nuts)? Was it an accident (didn't mean to kill her but was too agressive)? Do you know anything other than the fact that the girl died?
None of these things come close to excusing what he did but they should certainly have an effect on what we determine to be his punishment and if it is possible to rehabilitate him. Maybe there is a way for him to actively contribute to society without providing a threat instead of contributing to the worlds largest prison population.
I don't know anything about the case, and I'm pretty sure you don't know much more. We know there was a rape and murder, and that's it. There are a ton of other factors like intent, circumstances, his age, etc, that we have no clue about. Maybe he deserves to still be in jail, but then again maybe he doesn't, and you or I don't have the information to make a judgement about that. However that didn't stop you and you've made your judgement based on inadequate information which is exactly the risk of this registry.
How about just taking them from the parents. After all our society neither allows a parent to discipline a child nor does it require a parent to be responsible for the child.
Actually this just might force the parents to take a little more responsibility. Instead of the kid buying the game by themselves then if the parent doesn't like it it is too late to return the game the kid is now forced to go through a parent (or other adult) to buy the game and the parent is now by necessity more invloved in the decision.
Kill 'em all, and make 'em suffer.
Compiler Error: Statement "make 'em suffer" is unreachable
DRM itself isn't really the concern. It's just a tool: a lock can be used to keep out burglars, or contain the freedoms of people.
What matters is who is holding the keys at the end of the day.
The problem is by the very nature of DRM the people holding the keys aren't the people who own the house.
Do they actually do anything? I'm sure there's lots of instances where there was an online petition and changes were made but I doubt those changes were because of the petitions. Do decision makers even pay any attention to these petions or do they figgure that because an online petition is much easier to put a name to than any other type of feedback the names are fairly worthless and they just ignore the petition. It could even do damage if people who feel they want to do something just put their name to an online petition feeling they've made a difference and don't take any furthur action that could of actually had an effect.
Yeah, we blamed OS X for the loss of the "save every 5 words" reflex!
I just was to iterate that I love Macs, expecially OS X, and to restrain your disbelief in that the events I'm about to relate are entirely factual! Just yestday day I was sitting around with a bunch of fellow compsci geeks in our undergrad lounge. Three of them were sitting in a row with their powerbooks and iBooks open and going away. Either way one of the guys isn't doing anything too intensive, just apparently writing a paper and playing some MP3s when suddenly his computer freezes and the speakers keep on playing about a half second snippet of the song so it was seriously going (don't know how else to write the sound) TCH TCH TCH TCH for about a minute until we finally recovered from our shock and realized that the mac had crashed(and this was OS X)! Now I can see your disbelief but this is a true story! Well either way having never encountered this scenerio before we finally decided to do a hard reboot but when it tried to start up it just beeped 3 times and the LED flashed four times, turns out this is a code for bad RAM (OS X is forgiven!) lukily the powerbook is still on warrenty but apparently he figgured he lost a good chunk of the paper he was writing!
Is it better for security researchers to avoid publicly criticizing e-voting flaws? Is public faith in the system more important than overall system security?"
Ummm. No. An educated public is one of the foundations of democracy, withholding information about vital flaws to the election system for the mere purpose of public faith is precisely contrary to this goal! Of course this should be disclosed, withholding this information cannot have any benefit to the public and can only lead us to a situation were these inexcusable flaws will be forgotten.
Don't forget Kim Stanley Robinson's Mar's trilogy Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars), hard SF at its finest.
True it's a little long (looking at about 1800 pages of not very large print in total) but can't I've ever read such a complete series. The science and society was as extremely well thought out, there were no inconsistencies nor convenient amnesia of scientific laws or even loopholes, only slightly a couple times did I find myself having the slightest doubts about the technology but they were very slight. The social development while it seems odd a couple times is just as well mapped and as about as convincing as you can get when building a new culture.
Normally when a story pulls the name of some classic writer or composer from our time I'm always a little skeptical (I don't think they'll be in common conversation in X centuries) yet I always find it even weirder when that make a referal to some alien or future work that I've never heard of an they've just made up on the spot. This story has no such problem as the culture is followed from the start and is entirely convincing and you feel right at home with it.
They're a not for the light reader but I feel they were worth every page.
How about respecting the dead? Is 'loss of tourism' really the best answer we can come up with to not open up two people's graves (at least one of whom is assuredly not Billy the Kid)?
What about the respect for Billy the Kid so that we know his true grave or out of respect for someone who we believe is someone else, maybe we may find out their true identity instead of remembering them as someone else. I believe in this case finding the truth would be respecting the dead.
Kuney said that Internet Explorer is a fruit, but Microsoft's Lacovar said that there is no evidence to show that.
I admit that I hate microsoft just as much as the next guy but reverting to this kind of name calling is just plain wrong.
Internet Explorer's preferences are its own buisness and nobody elses!
We should all acknowledge Internet Explorer's decision to operate in whatever way it sees fit and allow it to use whatever plugins it enjoys. I know it acts a little differently than the other browsers but that's their choice to make and for what it's worth I support its decision and hope that despite all the Microsoft bashing the slashdot community chooses to show Internet Explorer no predjudice.
I mentioned the treatment of natives at the end of my statement. Perhaps I should also explain the term "relatively unsettled" as in relative to the Americans that land was unsettled, they didn't really care about the natives who lived there and just tried to wipe them out or force them onto reserves. Plus even with the aboriginals already there there was pleanty of room for both sides to coexist but "manifest destiny" would have it otherwise, still I stand by my statement that at that time the Americans considered that land to be relatively unsettled.
Um, the only thing *civilized* governments fear is people in the streets (not a correction to the quote, a correction to the idea). Take China, for instance. People marched in the street, and even stood up to tanks. Then they got mowed down by machine gun fire and were run over by the tanks.
Actually it sounds to me as if the Chinese government was very afraid, why else massacre the marchers? Unfortunately I don't have the information to know if those peoples deaths led to the chinese government trying to improve the situation so the same thing wouldn't happen again, or if fact if it caused them to tighten their grip so the same thing wouldn't happen again. One thing I do know is that the chinese government was truly afraid and I suspect they were extremely fortunate that they didn't lose power. You can fight a person, you can fight a group of people, you can even fight a large march as the chinese government showed, but what happens when you have to fight an entire city or even a nation? I strongly suspect if the protest had spread just a little more widely then China would be a very different place today. No the Chinese government was definately afraid.
According to John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, etc. the 2nd amendment (right to keep and bear arms) existed to keep gov't in check so a revolution wouldn't be necesary, but would be possible.
Is it any wonder the liberal line is to claim the 2nd amendment doesn't apply to "the people"?
Personally I think that guns for revolution in modern states are kind of obselete. True it can cause big problems for the military (as a previous poster mentioned of Iraq) but for a revolution in a modern country I've always thought of a line I once read in ones of Kim Stanley Robinson's Mar's trilogy books (can't remember if he got it from somewhere else), this might not be the exact quote but
"The only thing that governments fear is people in the streets"
Even the worst dictatorship relies on support from the people, if that choose not to obey then there is nothing a government can do.
Ah but what about the american revolution? Our dictatorship isn't exactly bloody...yet.
Afraid I'm not super familiar with the american revolution but I think I'd tend to classify it more as a liberation than a revolution. From what I understand British loyalists would of been a minority and probably socially segregated for the most part. Either way the actual battles would of generally been local militants against forgien military in a time when military technology was simple enough that both had an equal footing from an arms standpoint. Once the revolution was over the british military was not only gone but on the other side of an ocean (I suspect no practical chance to retake the colonies given that eras naval technology), some of the rest of the british loyalists moved up to Canada and in general the continent was relatively unsettled so places where local tensions were high people could find lots of open space to move to. As a result opposing sides who would have fought in what I would normally consider a revolution didn't haev to deal with eachother and to an extent were able to be removed from the country entirely, This effectively removed the major opposition that the US government faced so they didn't have to resort to a dictatorship to hold power as would of happened in a normal bloody revolution. These factors caused most of the post-revolution tensions that are normally supressed forcefully to be relatively small and not cause major problems (I don't know if any of this eventually helped cause your civil war) which is why I don't classify it as a true revolution.
All that being said the American government DID recieve a challenge of authority in the Natives and we all know how that turned out, whether you want to call that a "bloody dictatorship" is up to you...
Yeah, I know it's a joke but I'll bite anyways. The problem with revolutions is that they tend to get a lot of other people killed as well, not just revolutionaries, in fact a lot more often than is desirable the people who win the revolution are not the people generally desired to lead but the ones who are most successful at killing the other side. Always remember
dreams of perfect society + bloody revolution = bloody dictatorship
That being said there becomes a point where a political system degrades far enough some kind of revolution may be in the long term interest. If this Diebold problem isn't fixed fast (i.e.before the next US presidential election) than the US may find the foundations of their political system in very serious trouble. No I'm not saying you guys should have a revolution
I don't mind eye-candy if it doesn't bog down the system and waste space. Did you see the explorer screenshots? I mean is there any way they could have wasted some more space?!? When I'm browsing my files I usually want to be able to see more than 5 of them at a time!!! I mean look at it, big useless images, 3 different places to click if you want to search, I'm assuming they'll fill up the rest of that filter frame with something but I can't see it not being a waste. Also what the heck does "Add/Remove Programs" have to to with file browsing?!? I'd go on longer but I don't think I'd ever finish, from a usability standpoint they just seem to be getting worse and worse, They've got to figgure out that when someone wants to look at their files they really do want to look at their files! The files seem as if they're the least important in the window. They're never going to catch Apple in usability with junk like this, and when I'm talking Apple I don't just mean OS X, I'm looking back to OS 7 too (I'd go back furthur but don't have experience with pre OS 7), as far as I'm concerned the buggy hulk of Mac OS 7 is FAR more usable than anything M$ has come out with to date and anything is more usable then the file browser shown in that screenshot.
From the Google Groups link:
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/. put a link on the front page to a post that advocates writing viruses that destroys peoples hardware?!? It's not even that it was an important link that just happened to contain that information. There were numerous other, more informative posts that didn't advocate writing viruses that destroy hardware in the same thread that could of been linked just as easily. Why did the poster use that specific link and why did Michael post it!
> manipulate it. I am just waiting for the first Win viruses that kill LG
> drives by exploiting this flaw in the firmware!
It might be the best thing to happen if some script kiddies latch onto this
CDROM Drive hardware vulnerability and writea coupla' viruses that destroy
CDROm drives; that would force LG to rectify this vulnerability (that's what
it is). Then it's no longer anything to do with Linux / Mandrake
Since when does
> The money does get put into the state coffers. This is not like the RIAA who keeps the money for themselfs.
You don't suppose the RIAA has coffers?
Yes, that's where they put the money they keep for themselves.