Sory, all I can think of is something quick about inherintly impossible (how about that paper that showed up on/. a few weeks ago), I have to get going and don't have time to think up a real counter point but lets mod this guy up and start replying. Getting a thread like this going with some legitimate devil's advocates starting a good discussion is probably the best way we have to get some good material. I'll try to think of something when I get back.
Rather than just a way of improving customer service this strikes me as more a way of selling more beer. The moment your glass is empty someone comes offering to fill it it. Not only are they selling more beer but they're getting people a LOT more drunk as it's now so much more convenient to have another one.
How many times have we heard about a person or company being sued by a corporation and settling because they run out of cash? Now there are still the employment costs and stuff but I would at least think there should be public defenders available for liable cases to help take off some of the financial strain. Court cases shouldn't be determined by last man standing.
Novak saw the efforts to spread the word about the suit on the Web as a further infringement of his company's trademark, as well as the propagation of defamatory and libelous comments.
Yeah, and his subsequent actions really helped the image of his company. Is this guy just a complete idiot or was he deliberatly pushing for a cash settlement the whole time?
But that exposure is for one of two types of artists. First is the kind that is being pushed by the record company and they already get overexposed and more exposure doesn't really help and possibly would do them harm more than anything because the public is just that more likely to get sick of them. The second unexposed artist is not being pushed by a record company and is not necessarily even under contract for a big label, in that case the record company either does not care or does not want those artists to get any exposure. Of course this is a gross generalization but I wouldn't be surprised if these scenerios held true to a certain extent.
If they are made to offer modularized windows I wonder if they might use this as an excuse so they could set it up so that any distribution other than the full package would "result in a slower, much-less user friendly Windows that would be a support nightmare." resulting in no one touching the stripped down versions with a ten foot pole.
Your first three points have good merit and I agree with them for the most part (there's a lot of agruments either way). However I disagree on the final point. I want you to think about this statement, " we'd have been happy if the Afghanistan government or people would have just turned bin Laden over to us with no bloodshed whatsoever." Why should they have turned over Bin Laden, think about it from their point of view. A massive terrorist attack is committed against the most powerful nation in the worl, a nation that much of your country also despises as the "Great Satan". Now on circumstancial evidence this nation now demands you turn over what is almost a national hero, a terrorist albeit, but a very popular figure. The US had basically convicted Bin Laden within days of the attack (innocent until proven guilty out the window), from the Taliban's point of view regardless of your personal relationship with him or your involvement with the attack you cannot turn over Bin Laden. To do so would not only be an admittal of guilt when you see no evidence but also a huge sign of weakness. The US essentially invaded a country and destroyed a government on a hunch. On an interesting note I wonder what would of happened if some of the terrorists involved were found in Canada. You can be sure that the US would want the death penalty and we have a law that does not allow us to hand over a prisoner to a country where they could face the death penalty (maybe we could give him over on a lesser charge like they did on Law and Order:).
As to the fact of the US's policy of massive interventionism I believe this comes from the first two world wars. I've basically heard it stated that the US was late for the first two world wars so decided to be early for every other one. Still on that note it's interesting to note some of the similarities between recent events and the assasination of Arch Duke Ferdinand (heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne) was assasinated in Serbia by a Serbian which was the spark that set off WWI.
boy these debates are fun! anyone else want in on the action just hit reply!
These events were "inspired" by people just as evil as the corporations who indoctrinate children with the idea that it's glorious to kill people for "jihad." Yeah it's just a typo but I'll point it out here so someone else doesn't start flaming.
Now to the point in hand. I see your point and agree with it to a certain extent. I wasn't saying that their actions were justified I was merely pointing out how it can be seen how they were driven to such extremes. I suspect the fact that most of the terrorists come from Saudi Arabia is due to the fact they are the ones who have the funding to carry out the activities, from what I know there is a much stronger sense of nationalism(can't think of a better term) between Arab nations than others in the world. Evil and powerhungry people exist everywhere but it's my belief that forgien policy decisions by the US (i.e. backing Israel and basing most forgien policy decisions on how to maximize American profits regardless of the affected countries) are what gave these terrorists the neccessary popular support to justify terrorist attacks against the US. Also regardless of who caused it I'm sure you can't argue that there wasn't wide-spread famine in Afgahnistan, you can be sure that they wouldn't feel kindly to the weight loss industry in the US for example. Whether the US's forgeign actions (both corporate and government) are right is not the whole point, it is that those actions are what gave these terrorists an excuse to attack and they will continue to do so unless changes are made. It might be necessary for the US to start leading by example and spreading the wealth because they can't expect the rest of the world to suddenly forget the predjudices they have against the US. On an interesting side note for a while now the US's police action or whatever they are calling it in Afghanistan has now claimed more civilian lives than Sept. 11, although I don't know if those numbers include the non-soldiers from Al-Queda.
I think it's worthwhile to point out that even if corporate America had nothing to do with the buildings being unable to withstand the impact Corporate greed and stockholders still had something to do with it. It was infact the madmen's hatred of corporate America and execs with millions in the bank and still try to get more money out of starving nations while they starved that likely drove them mad and inspired them to do what they did.
Rather than get a unix box with little or no features get a Microsoft operation system that is packed with an obscenely high number of features for you to work with!
Usually when I mouth a word into my phone it usually means I DON'T want the other person to hear it. I'm not sure what the learning curve would be on a device like this but chances are that until person hits it they are going to have a lot of explaining to do!!
I was hoping they would include the scene where the party is going along in the day see the three stone trolls from Bilbo's story. I found it kind of odd when they were camping and there was suddenly a MASSIVE stone troll in the background, you'd think someone would have at least caught that by the time they re-edited.
After you play The One Disk enough times your player is slowly corrupted and starts to continuously play Nsync and Brittney Spears while insisting is has a problem that can only be repaired by bringing it to the MPAA!!
Your'e complaining about four hours?!? I was hoping that it would come out with the full six hours that someone told me the origional movie was. Now that would be something!!!
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I take it from your post that you have chosen not to follow this plan?
The Shenzhou III, which Chinese media described as being "technically suitable for astronauts", was launched after months of delays. This along with a few other quotes suggests that it was known before hand that it was a dummy flying it and not some poor shmuk who got hit with a broken life support. From the may they described all the passenger simulation stuff they had up there there would simply be no need for a human who might die and splash paint on your face. On the same note I would wonder about the rumor about the soviets seeing as how they likely said they were flying a dummy first. Although they certainly could have found "volunteers" I don't think I would be very willing to go on a space ride being only advertized as a dummy, I'd like them to have a little more confidence in the life support first!
I'm getting nostalgia thinking about playing King's Quest again and thinking back to Leisure Suit Larry. I'm also reminiscing to my dial-up connection looking at my 0.8KB/sec download. Stop slashdotting the site and let me download!!
Yes everybody I did make a little booboo in there, I origionally ment to differentiate between mass and weight, weight being what this machine is supposed effect. The effect of gravity on an object ins't dependent solely on the object, it's dependent on the mass of the object creating the gravitational field and the radius squared and a constant yadda,yadda,yadda, ie 98.1N on a 10 Kg object, say we use this device to reduce the weight to 8 N, it's still 10 Kg but we STILL need 500 J to accelerate this object to 10 m/s (perpendicular to the gravitational field of course). The only suggestion of the device reducing mass, not gravity, appears to be the writers own conjecture.
Going by the law of conservation of energy if this does reduce the effect of gravity I strongly suspect the amount of energy needed to maintain the effect will be at least equal to or greater than the potential energy difference of the material affected.
I actually did cover that situation in the post. Basically what I'm saying is that you WON'T be able to use this device to cheat in getting out of orbit unless you break conservation of energy.
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Sory, all I can think of is something quick about inherintly impossible (how about that paper that showed up on /. a few weeks ago), I have to get going and don't have time to think up a real counter point but lets mod this guy up and start replying. Getting a thread like this going with some legitimate devil's advocates starting a good discussion is probably the best way we have to get some good material. I'll try to think of something when I get back.
Rather than just a way of improving customer service this strikes me as more a way of selling more beer. The moment your glass is empty someone comes offering to fill it it. Not only are they selling more beer but they're getting people a LOT more drunk as it's now so much more convenient to have another one.
How many times have we heard about a person or company being sued by a corporation and settling because they run out of cash? Now there are still the employment costs and stuff but I would at least think there should be public defenders available for liable cases to help take off some of the financial strain. Court cases shouldn't be determined by last man standing.
Novak saw the efforts to spread the word about the suit on the Web as a further infringement of his company's trademark, as well as the propagation of defamatory and libelous comments.
Yeah, and his subsequent actions really helped the image of his company. Is this guy just a complete idiot or was he deliberatly pushing for a cash settlement the whole time?
But that exposure is for one of two types of artists. First is the kind that is being pushed by the record company and they already get overexposed and more exposure doesn't really help and possibly would do them harm more than anything because the public is just that more likely to get sick of them. The second unexposed artist is not being pushed by a record company and is not necessarily even under contract for a big label, in that case the record company either does not care or does not want those artists to get any exposure. Of course this is a gross generalization but I wouldn't be surprised if these scenerios held true to a certain extent.
Yeah, I'll be waiting for that to happen right after George Bush gets nominated for a Nobel peace prize!
Actually he's changed his mind again, he's now doing it in C#.
If they are made to offer modularized windows I wonder if they might use this as an excuse so they could set it up so that any distribution other than the full package would "result in a slower, much-less user friendly Windows that would be a support nightmare." resulting in no one touching the stripped down versions with a ten foot pole.
sorry I must have forgotten to close the bold tag(I wish the lameness filter had caught that)
Your first three points have good merit and I agree with them for the most part (there's a lot of agruments either way). However I disagree on the final point. I want you to think about this statement, " we'd have been happy if the Afghanistan government or people would have just turned bin Laden over to us with no bloodshed whatsoever." Why should they have turned over Bin Laden, think about it from their point of view. A massive terrorist attack is committed against the most powerful nation in the worl, a nation that much of your country also despises as the "Great Satan". Now on circumstancial evidence this nation now demands you turn over what is almost a national hero, a terrorist albeit, but a very popular figure. The US had basically convicted Bin Laden within days of the attack (innocent until proven guilty out the window), from the Taliban's point of view regardless of your personal relationship with him or your involvement with the attack you cannot turn over Bin Laden. To do so would not only be an admittal of guilt when you see no evidence but also a huge sign of weakness. The US essentially invaded a country and destroyed a government on a hunch.
On an interesting note I wonder what would of happened if some of the terrorists involved were found in Canada. You can be sure that the US would want the death penalty and we have a law that does not allow us to hand over a prisoner to a country where they could face the death penalty (maybe we could give him over on a lesser charge like they did on Law and Order:).
As to the fact of the US's policy of massive interventionism I believe this comes from the first two world wars. I've basically heard it stated that the US was late for the first two world wars so decided to be early for every other one.
Still on that note it's interesting to note some of the similarities between recent events and the assasination of Arch Duke Ferdinand (heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne) was assasinated in Serbia by a Serbian which was the spark that set off WWI.
boy these debates are fun! anyone else want in on the action just hit reply!
These events were "inspired" by people just as evil as the corporations who indoctrinate children with the idea that it's glorious to kill people for "jihad."
Yeah it's just a typo but I'll point it out here so someone else doesn't start flaming.
Now to the point in hand. I see your point and agree with it to a certain extent. I wasn't saying that their actions were justified I was merely pointing out how it can be seen how they were driven to such extremes. I suspect the fact that most of the terrorists come from Saudi Arabia is due to the fact they are the ones who have the funding to carry out the activities, from what I know there is a much stronger sense of nationalism(can't think of a better term) between Arab nations than others in the world. Evil and powerhungry people exist everywhere but it's my belief that forgien policy decisions by the US (i.e. backing Israel and basing most forgien policy decisions on how to maximize American profits regardless of the affected countries) are what gave these terrorists the neccessary popular support to justify terrorist attacks against the US. Also regardless of who caused it I'm sure you can't argue that there wasn't wide-spread famine in Afgahnistan, you can be sure that they wouldn't feel kindly to the weight loss industry in the US for example. Whether the US's forgeign actions (both corporate and government) are right is not the whole point, it is that those actions are what gave these terrorists an excuse to attack and they will continue to do so unless changes are made. It might be necessary for the US to start leading by example and spreading the wealth because they can't expect the rest of the world to suddenly forget the predjudices they have against the US. On an interesting side note for a while now the US's police action or whatever they are calling it in Afghanistan has now claimed more civilian lives than Sept. 11, although I don't know if those numbers include the non-soldiers from Al-Queda.
I think it's worthwhile to point out that even if corporate America had nothing to do with the buildings being unable to withstand the impact Corporate greed and stockholders still had something to do with it. It was infact the madmen's hatred of corporate America and execs with millions in the bank and still try to get more money out of starving nations while they starved that likely drove them mad and inspired them to do what they did.
provider of yoga lessons, especially one that's so clearly fighting the good fight, karmawise.
Does anyone know how I can contact them?
I want some more Karma!!!
It's not a bug it's a feature...
Rather than get a unix box with little or no features get a Microsoft operation system that is packed with an obscenely high number of features for you to work with!
But I suppose I shouldn't joke about that, or we'll have some bright guy trying to patent them, eh?
The trick is to start at the basics, and by the way Somebody beat you to it
Usually when I mouth a word into my phone it usually means I DON'T want the other person to hear it. I'm not sure what the learning curve would be on a device like this but chances are that until person hits it they are going to have a lot of explaining to do!!
I was hoping they would include the scene where the party is going along in the day see the three stone trolls from Bilbo's story. I found it kind of odd when they were camping and there was suddenly a MASSIVE stone troll in the background, you'd think someone would have at least caught that by the time they re-edited.
After you play The One Disk enough times your player is slowly corrupted and starts to continuously play Nsync and Brittney Spears while insisting is has a problem that can only be repaired by bringing it to the MPAA!!
Your'e complaining about four hours?!? I was hoping that it would come out with the full six hours that someone told me the origional movie was. Now that would be something!!!
I take it from your post that you have chosen not to follow this plan?
The Shenzhou III, which Chinese media described as being "technically suitable for astronauts", was launched after months of delays.
This along with a few other quotes suggests that it was known before hand that it was a dummy flying it and not some poor shmuk who got hit with a broken life support. From the may they described all the passenger simulation stuff they had up there there would simply be no need for a human who might die and splash paint on your face. On the same note I would wonder about the rumor about the soviets seeing as how they likely said they were flying a dummy first. Although they certainly could have found "volunteers" I don't think I would be very willing to go on a space ride being only advertized as a dummy, I'd like them to have a little more confidence in the life support first!
I'm getting nostalgia thinking about playing King's Quest again and thinking back to Leisure Suit Larry. I'm also reminiscing to my dial-up connection looking at my 0.8KB/sec download. Stop slashdotting the site and let me download!!
Anyone know who the french judge voted for;)
Yes everybody I did make a little booboo in there, I origionally ment to differentiate between mass and weight, weight being what this machine is supposed effect. The effect of gravity on an object ins't dependent solely on the object, it's dependent on the mass of the object creating the gravitational field and the radius squared and a constant yadda,yadda,yadda, ie 98.1N on a 10 Kg object, say we use this device to reduce the weight to 8 N, it's still 10 Kg but we STILL need 500 J to accelerate this object to 10 m/s (perpendicular to the gravitational field of course). The only suggestion of the device reducing mass, not gravity, appears to be the writers own conjecture.
Going by the law of conservation of energy if this does reduce the effect of gravity I strongly suspect the amount of energy needed to maintain the effect will be at least equal to or greater than the potential energy difference of the material affected.
I actually did cover that situation in the post. Basically what I'm saying is that you WON'T be able to use this device to cheat in getting out of orbit unless you break conservation of energy.