LOL! Nice try at Troll dom. Actually it was Allen who wrote most of the code, and it was not DOS but BASIC. One is an operating system, the other one is a language. Actually Bill Gates did not graduate from Hardvar, and it got there due to family conections not sheer brilliantness (scion). Oh, and he claims he dropped out, officially he got in trouble with the administration because the machine him and Allen used to develope the basic code, a PDP, did not belong to them.. but rather the school. They actually moved the computer that was not their property to their dorm room, they used university property to develop a commercial language. Actually BASIC was not even their own invention, so they basically made a port of the language.
DOS was not an MS product, they bought the code from a Seattle based company. As far as I know MS were in the compiler business before 1981, and I doubt Gates wrote a single line of DOS code, he definitively was not in any shape way or form the main architect/coder of DOS. And if you even had any remote idea about what you are saying, you'd know that the DOS that gates and CO. bought was a quick and dirty copy of CP/M-86.
Gates may be a good marketer and commercial thug, he is by no means a decent coder. And BTW next time try harder, pulling a never existing article from Byte out of your arse is just too boring.
Actually it was, but don't let the actual facts get in the way.
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Actually the SS10SX like the SS20 does not have a frame buffer built in, you have to install the DIMM/FB option to get the frame buffer complete (it has the video generation logic on board I think). For the second head you need that almost unobtanium video board, which I have never been able to track down:(.
Actually I love SUN keyboards, until they went with the horrible type 6 ugh. Nowadays I believe they use plain USB for interface. But for lots of typing nothing beats the Type 5 or some of the good Type 4's. Plus they are almost indestructible!
Nope, the Columbia had ISS docking (which is actually a module) like the rest of the shuttle fleet. The shuttles do not "dock" to the hubble, they "trap" it with their arm, no need for docking as the hubble does not have any sort of living quarters or anything that it needs airlock transfer.
Actually you too are wrong: Hyperthreading allows multihple threads to be active per functional unit. I.e. you could have 2 threads active in a single functional unit, you do not need 2 functional units to have 2 threads active. Hyperthreading does not imply parallel execution as you implied before, it basically means that as soon as one thread stalls in a functional unit there must be at least another thread that can be brought right away to keep that functional unit from stalling.
You sir are rather ignorant, I assume that is why the internet runs on IPX or UDP, LOL. Nope, it seems that the TCP/IP (hint the last letters IP are for Internet Protocol) is what the internet runs over. Maybe TCP-IP seems to be a "small" detail to you, but unless you come up with something better... I rather keep Vinton Cerf in his original place and inventing the protocol that the internet uses mostly to transfer data is a rather important achievement. In case you did not know it, it also happens that it was Cerf (together with Kahn) who coined the term "internet" on a '74 paper on TCP. So let's see he came up with the protocol, and the name. Is that just not enough for you?
This is not even close to the apples to oranges comparison you tried to accomplish. Oh, well it is not like ignorance ever stopped anyone from posting on slashdot.
I am afraid that your nationalistic blind got the best of you. You are comparing apples to oranges, but I will bite.
1. The crime rates in India are rather high too.
2. The sound logic of your government to enter an arms race with Pakistan ove a piece os sh*t land known as Kashmir. Whoah... Is the world supposed to be impressed over your handling of affairs.
3. What is the poverty level in India darling, before you come and critizise another nation's economy as "unstable" better take a look at India's economic "might"
Again you do not seem to understand debt in loans, vs debt put on your currency.
The US and other Western and Asian powers put debt against their currencies in the form of bonds. I.e. you get IOUs, and you get to "own" part of the economy. Much like a stock market of sort.
The loans that India and other developing countries get, are not agains their curerncies. Think of it as credit card debt.
So they are two very different types of debt. The world needs a country like the US or the EU that allow money transactions and investments agains Euros or dollars. However, rupies are not something that can be of any use.. simply because the Idians are not going or can not afford to be the engine of the world's economy.
No, you are confusing trade deficit with actual debt. India and China sell more to the rest of the world than they buy from the Western nations, since they both have very protectionistic markets. However both countries have hughe loans against those same western countries. So think of it as your neighbor who has a store, he sells a lot of stuff to you, you can not sell much to him/her.... and yet you have to give him/her large chuncks of money as loans since he/she claims to live under poverty (and you do not want the poor neighbor's kids to go hungry at night, think of the children you neighbor tells you). Later on you discover that your neighbor is spending a large chunk of cas in making his or her own backyard bottle rockets. The Economist had a great article a while back on China's and India's space programs under that argument.
China owes money to the US, via credits that it has underwriten under IMF loans. Same goes with India, in fact both China and India are the largest debtors, which is no surprise since both combined represent over 1/3 of the world's population.
So the dude who posted the fact that now that both China and India who have enough money to "play space race" they should also have the money to pay back their external debt.
Anyways, I expect to read the ultra nationalistic Indian responses back....
Too bad god made his penis exactly 1 inch long... a lot of repressed feelings and wars due to massive inferiority complexes could have been avoided if God had been more generous with the King!
But then again, if God did not want us to use the metric system then how come s/he gave us Ten fingers?:) Rather than using the kings shortcommings, other people decided to use"standard" equipment.... unless you are one of them crab people, then you must be restricted to binary counting I guess.....
Yeah it is late and I have been coding 2 days straight....
Well... Earth Simulator was bigger and faster... as was big mac. Every advance in computer design and fabrication has been about "bigger and faster." It may sound trivial to you, but that is because you got no idea about what is involved about making things "bigger and faster."
What is significant about blue gene is that is some sort of compromise between off the shelf parts (PPC based Processing elements vs. the Earth Simulator SX based custom vector PEs), and efficient interconnection (plain crappy cluster like the Big mac with a better interconnect at multiple layers starting with dual cores per die).
In the end it all leads to the same goal: tackling bigger problems faster. So it may sound trivial but there is a lot of research going into this baby.
Because they are used embedded DRAM, which although not as fast as SRAM it gives more storage in fewer transistors. This leads to a smaller die, and lower power/heat dissipation.
If your p1 runs at the same speed than your P4 for 90% of operations, then there is something wrong with your computer! The HDD is not the bottleneck for most modern computers, as they have enough memory to minimize page faults for most common home computing tasks.... Startup times however may be equal since both machines have to get the data/program from HDD... once stuffs are in memory, buubbie P1....
It is not only funny that according to their "survey" IIS has more market share than Apache, but *gasp* Netscape has a larger market share than Apache too!
That is as big of a red flag as I have ever seen.
Of course the fact that they indeed produce softs for IIS is in no way shape or form any sort of indication to a possible, slight, minimal... bias.
LOL, a nice laugh... and they may even get slashdotted, which will bring joy to their sorry operation since they will now be able to claim that they are now one of the nets most popular companies/sites. I am sure this is some sort of ploy to get traffic, it will be funny to see if indeed their beloved IIS can stand the slashdot effect. LOL
Well, those are OS specific messages... so unless M$ et al are outsorcing the OS development overseas that dialog box will likely to be written in the good US of A.
No, multithreading gives you the ability to hide memory latency issues. While a thread is requesting a memory operation, other thrad can fill the functional units, hence "hiding" the bubles the stalled thread would have generated. If you have to threads competing for memory resources, then there is aproblem with the processor logic.
The tera had no data cache, because it can hide all memory latencies when it comes to data requests. The memory requests could be pipelined through maxium levels of banking and interleaving in the memory subsystem, so you do not need 32 compute bound threads, just at least 32 bounds. They can put their requests serially... data and other hazards are taken care automatically too.
Actually the multithreaded design is an answer to the lack of parallelism, as most deisgns are able to deal at the thread or process level, hence the parallelism is implicit and does not ned to be "found" That is the whole point.
You are citing the limitations of superscalar, not SMT designs.
The MTA was a fine grained multithreaded machine, way differnet than the SMT approach required for complex superscalar threaded machines.
The Tera did have an instruction cache though, no data cache.
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LOL! Nice try at Troll dom. Actually it was Allen who wrote most of the code, and it was not DOS but BASIC. One is an operating system, the other one is a language. Actually Bill Gates did not graduate from Hardvar, and it got there due to family conections not sheer brilliantness (scion). Oh, and he claims he dropped out, officially he got in trouble with the administration because the machine him and Allen used to develope the basic code, a PDP, did not belong to them.. but rather the school. They actually moved the computer that was not their property to their dorm room, they used university property to develop a commercial language. Actually BASIC was not even their own invention, so they basically made a port of the language.
DOS was not an MS product, they bought the code from a Seattle based company. As far as I know MS were in the compiler business before 1981, and I doubt Gates wrote a single line of DOS code, he definitively was not in any shape way or form the main architect/coder of DOS. And if you even had any remote idea about what you are saying, you'd know that the DOS that gates and CO. bought was a quick and dirty copy of CP/M-86.
Gates may be a good marketer and commercial thug, he is by no means a decent coder. And BTW next time try harder, pulling a never existing article from Byte out of your arse is just too boring.
Actually it was, but don't let the actual facts get in the way.
Actually the SS10SX like the SS20 does not have a frame buffer built in, you have to install the DIMM/FB option to get the frame buffer complete (it has the video generation logic on board I think). For the second head you need that almost unobtanium video board, which I have never been able to track down :(.
Actually I love SUN keyboards, until they went with the horrible type 6 ugh. Nowadays I believe they use plain USB for interface. But for lots of typing nothing beats the Type 5 or some of the good Type 4's. Plus they are almost indestructible!
Actually openboot is a standard developed by a 3rd party, both SUN and Apple (And maybe others) actually licensed it, not from SUN themselves.
Minor nitpick I know.
Nope, the Columbia had ISS docking (which is actually a module) like the rest of the shuttle fleet. The shuttles do not "dock" to the hubble, they "trap" it with their arm, no need for docking as the hubble does not have any sort of living quarters or anything that it needs airlock transfer.
Actually you too are wrong: Hyperthreading allows multihple threads to be active per functional unit. I.e. you could have 2 threads active in a single functional unit, you do not need 2 functional units to have 2 threads active. Hyperthreading does not imply parallel execution as you implied before, it basically means that as soon as one thread stalls in a functional unit there must be at least another thread that can be brought right away to keep that functional unit from stalling.
rats... I mean 66%
Well $15 to $25 change is equal to an increase of 75% so yeah you are right they are over 20% increase :), but just by a cinch.... :)
You sir are rather ignorant, I assume that is why the internet runs on IPX or UDP, LOL. Nope, it seems that the TCP/IP (hint the last letters IP are for Internet Protocol) is what the internet runs over. Maybe TCP-IP seems to be a "small" detail to you, but unless you come up with something better... I rather keep Vinton Cerf in his original place and inventing the protocol that the internet uses mostly to transfer data is a rather important achievement. In case you did not know it, it also happens that it was Cerf (together with Kahn) who coined the term "internet" on a '74 paper on TCP. So let's see he came up with the protocol, and the name. Is that just not enough for you?
This is not even close to the apples to oranges comparison you tried to accomplish. Oh, well it is not like ignorance ever stopped anyone from posting on slashdot.
Well, Linux is an UNIX like OS, and BSD already lost the ability of calling itself UNIX a while back.
So neither OS is UNIX or a real UNIX.
I am afraid that your nationalistic blind got the best of you. You are comparing apples to oranges, but I will bite. 1. The crime rates in India are rather high too. 2. The sound logic of your government to enter an arms race with Pakistan ove a piece os sh*t land known as Kashmir. Whoah... Is the world supposed to be impressed over your handling of affairs. 3. What is the poverty level in India darling, before you come and critizise another nation's economy as "unstable" better take a look at India's economic "might"
Again you do not seem to understand debt in loans, vs debt put on your currency.
The US and other Western and Asian powers put debt against their currencies in the form of bonds. I.e. you get IOUs, and you get to "own" part of the economy. Much like a stock market of sort.
The loans that India and other developing countries get, are not agains their curerncies. Think of it as credit card debt.
So they are two very different types of debt. The world needs a country like the US or the EU that allow money transactions and investments agains Euros or dollars. However, rupies are not something that can be of any use.. simply because the Idians are not going or can not afford to be the engine of the world's economy.
It is all a part of fundamentals... really.
No, you are confusing trade deficit with actual debt. India and China sell more to the rest of the world than they buy from the Western nations, since they both have very protectionistic markets. However both countries have hughe loans against those same western countries. So think of it as your neighbor who has a store, he sells a lot of stuff to you, you can not sell much to him/her.... and yet you have to give him/her large chuncks of money as loans since he/she claims to live under poverty (and you do not want the poor neighbor's kids to go hungry at night, think of the children you neighbor tells you). Later on you discover that your neighbor is spending a large chunk of cas in making his or her own backyard bottle rockets. The Economist had a great article a while back on China's and India's space programs under that argument.
China owes money to the US, via credits that it has underwriten under IMF loans. Same goes with India, in fact both China and India are the largest debtors, which is no surprise since both combined represent over 1/3 of the world's population.
So the dude who posted the fact that now that both China and India who have enough money to "play space race" they should also have the money to pay back their external debt.
Anyways, I expect to read the ultra nationalistic Indian responses back....
Too bad god made his penis exactly 1 inch long... a lot of repressed feelings and wars due to massive inferiority complexes could have been avoided if God had been more generous with the King!
:) Rather than using the kings shortcommings, other people decided to use"standard" equipment.... unless you are one of them crab people, then you must be restricted to binary counting I guess.....
But then again, if God did not want us to use the metric system then how come s/he gave us Ten fingers?
Yeah it is late and I have been coding 2 days straight....
Well... Earth Simulator was bigger and faster... as was big mac. Every advance in computer design and fabrication has been about "bigger and faster." It may sound trivial to you, but that is because you got no idea about what is involved about making things "bigger and faster."
What is significant about blue gene is that is some sort of compromise between off the shelf parts (PPC based Processing elements vs. the Earth Simulator SX based custom vector PEs), and efficient interconnection (plain crappy cluster like the Big mac with a better interconnect at multiple layers starting with dual cores per die).
In the end it all leads to the same goal: tackling bigger problems faster. So it may sound trivial but there is a lot of research going into this baby.
Because they are used embedded DRAM, which although not as fast as SRAM it gives more storage in fewer transistors. This leads to a smaller die, and lower power/heat dissipation.
If your p1 runs at the same speed than your P4 for 90% of operations, then there is something wrong with your computer! The HDD is not the bottleneck for most modern computers, as they have enough memory to minimize page faults for most common home computing tasks.... Startup times however may be equal since both machines have to get the data/program from HDD... once stuffs are in memory, buubbie P1....
It is not only funny that according to their "survey" IIS has more market share than Apache, but *gasp* Netscape has a larger market share than Apache too!
That is as big of a red flag as I have ever seen.
Of course the fact that they indeed produce softs for IIS is in no way shape or form any sort of indication to a possible, slight, minimal... bias.
LOL, a nice laugh... and they may even get slashdotted, which will bring joy to their sorry operation since they will now be able to claim that they are now one of the nets most popular companies/sites. I am sure this is some sort of ploy to get traffic, it will be funny to see if indeed their beloved IIS can stand the slashdot effect. LOL
Well, those are OS specific messages... so unless M$ et al are outsorcing the OS development overseas that dialog box will likely to be written in the good US of A.
What would a blind person do in a movie theatre exactly? you dolt!
Actually Mars is way bigger than the moon, it is slightly smaller than Earth though.
No, multithreading gives you the ability to hide memory latency issues. While a thread is requesting a memory operation, other thrad can fill the functional units, hence "hiding" the bubles the stalled thread would have generated. If you have to threads competing for memory resources, then there is aproblem with the processor logic. The tera had no data cache, because it can hide all memory latencies when it comes to data requests. The memory requests could be pipelined through maxium levels of banking and interleaving in the memory subsystem, so you do not need 32 compute bound threads, just at least 32 bounds. They can put their requests serially... data and other hazards are taken care automatically too.
Actually the multithreaded design is an answer to the lack of parallelism, as most deisgns are able to deal at the thread or process level, hence the parallelism is implicit and does not ned to be "found" That is the whole point. You are citing the limitations of superscalar, not SMT designs.
The MTA was a fine grained multithreaded machine, way differnet than the SMT approach required for complex superscalar threaded machines. The Tera did have an instruction cache though, no data cache.
Fluid dynamics and environmental studies are also part of NASA's research mission.
He is from South East Asia, he is still learning the language... cut him some slack :).