Yes, but it makes little sense to talk about our understanding of Earth being either flat or spherical before we got to have the tools to determine it. Unless, of course, you consider our spirits/souls/whatever having been there all along.
True, but can you definitely say that we have the tools today to measure whether our universe is flat, curved, spheical, hyperbolical, whatever?
Personally I don't think so.
Finally, out-typing a SYSTEM is completely different from out-typing a modem, which is really what the original post was claiming to have done.
So was I, I talked about out-typing the 2400 baud modem on a Ansi-enabled vt-220 emulator (a program wchi emulates a vt220 terminal, which is exactly what your typical Xterm (Eterm/gnome terminal/kterm, etc...) is...
I said nothing about out-typing a system.
So, at 6 characters per word, that would mean that you were a 300wpm typist.
I remember outtyping 2400baud modems all the time, but you can't count it out exactly like that.
for one you vastly undercounted (9 bits/char not 10, remember 8N1 (normal) or 7E2 (compuserve)? 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit or 7 data, even parity, 2 stop bit.
4 chars is a word, spaces are considered characters, so 'a a ' is just as much one word as 'four'.
but when I was outtyping 2400baud, it was on an ansi-enabled vt220 emulator, i could usually get a full line or two ahead of certain mail composers, and very easily get about 5 or 6 screen refreshes ahead of BRE. (I used to play 300 turns in about 7 minutes).
It's not too hard to outtype low-speed modems after you factor in control characters, remote echo, and line latency.
Yes but why has noone yet written an open source variant? (and if they have where can I get it)
I wanna host it online for my old bbs friends, rather than play it with a buch of little kids i dont know over a telnet--bbs gateway.
back in the days of BBS all the users on the nodes i frequented knew each other... we actually gathered irl once a month... it was great, there was over 100 of us, discussing our strategies in bre and TW2002 for the past month and some for the month to come.
which brings onther great game... BRE... I wanna server that too... ne1 know where I can find it?
I love my Logitech keyboard for that exact same reason (cordless iTouch, although I never use the multimedia keys).
Perfect key action, and all the keys are exactly where they should be...
Now if only it were self-cleaning... you should see the amount of tar buildup from cigartte smoke et.al on they keys I don't use (numpad for example).
Not completely, as NAT also removes information about the NATted network. How many hosts are there? Which of the hosts behind the firewall is this?
So does the ESTABLISHED,RELATED firewall rule.
If unknown people cannot penetrate your firewall with a ping or whatever else (since a ping is neither established nor related) they cannot realistically determine if any host on said network exists, so all they know is there is a possibility og being 2^64 or however many IPs happen to be in your subnet.
This is the same with NAT, people can only realistically guess that there may be up to 2^24 hosts behind your network.
In either case there is no way for someone to know how many hosts are up unless you specifically allow them through the firewall (say for a webserver or IRC or some such host)
Actually, the current evidence, especially from CMB experiments like MAP, strongly suggest that we are in a flat universe
Yeah... and up until very recently (geologically/cosmologically speaking, of course), all the evidence we had pointed towards the world being flat...
Then we devised new experiments and measuring techniques (in this case someone sailed over the 'edge of the world' and came back)... and suddenly the world was no longer flat.
In 1997, as an OAC (formerly gr.13 in Ontario, now a thing of the past completely) student, I had a similar overbearing Admin (of course I mean head of the business department, but happened to have the most computer knowledge of all the employees in the school). I was a part-time student at the time (2 classes a day) and my independant study for OA Eglish was due later that morning.
My printer at home had died so I was unable to print it out for submission (the teacher would not accept a soft copy).
I had the teacher allow me access to one of the computer labs (which happened to be locked when he let me in). Within 2 minutes of me logging in the sysadmin stormed in and told me to leave the lab, as I was banned.
I asked him why, at which point he asked what I was doing, who let me in, etc.
This is the whole problem with schools, is the shoot first, ask questions later mentality of people who are doing a job that they have neither the intelligence, experience, or time to do.
Do you mean you blocked all access to the AOL AIM servers because that is what I believe you would have to do to actually *block* AIM.
Even that can be broken by some of the more computer-literate students.
Just setup a box on your parent's cable modem/ADSL line which forwards all packets coming from the school's IP on specific ports to the AIM servers, or setup an AIM proxy at home and route throught that completely.
I think it may have something to do with a family guy episode which some/.'er must have seen recently...
In it, Peter gets a new car after the mob steals his junker for insurance money.
While showing the car to his neighbors, he displays the talking navigation system, and how it can speak in English, Spanish, and Russian.
In Russian, the directions were 'In Soviet Russia... car drives you'...
Of course I could be talking out my ass... but that's my theory... makes sense tome...
I think my concern is that most users aren't gonna know to "startx" again immediately after that.
If they didn't know how to type 'startx' to get into X in the first place, it means they're running by default in runlevel 4. In this case, hitting ctrl+alt+bkspace kills X and it simply respawns, so they don't have to type 'startx', or simply 'X', as linked by default in most X installations (definitely any stock distro that I have seen).
If you're after a recreational substance that makes you smart and attractive when you consume it, I suggest beer.
Close... but no cigar(rette)... (I know... I was wrong...)
Beer makes you think you're smart...but it doesn't make you more attractive... it makes other people more attractive...
Readily convertable to dead-tree format by every printer. Ever. Backward and forward portable on every 7- and 8-bit machine in existance. Ever. Readable on any screen by well over 1/3 the world's population. Can convey an immense amount of information.
Close but not quite. C64 does not use the same ascii table as our PCs.
I remember (way back in the day) transfering an ascii file from my cousin's IBM to my C64 and only 1 in 5 words was readable, if even that.
No, if car companies worked like software companies, their business model would be as follows:
1. Buy a car: You pay for the key, you get the car for free.
2. If you lose your key (still having the car), you must buy a key at full price (10k+, depending on the make/model) to use the existing car.
3. If you make a copy of your key (at a cost of ~$1), you will be charged with piracy (and in this case, possibly conspiracy to commit a crime (grand larceny).
And please forward this to 20 of your closest friends
There was a man from Earth, true story, who didn't forward this, and he died. Do you really want that to happen to you? If not, please FORWARD THIS EMAIL!!!
If not a garage then restaurants. You think if you go to the bar and buy a beer that you won't have to pay for it if they don't explicitly tell you how much it costs?
That's an even dumber reference.
In bars and restaurants, prices are posted. For things like drinks, usually on a board above or near the bar. For the food, on a menu which is readily available.
The problem is that he did not offer to fix their network, they asked him to... Since no contract was arranged prior to the labor, they should be expecting a bill and expecting to pay it.
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Yes, but it makes little sense to talk about our understanding of Earth being either flat or spherical before we got to have the tools to determine it. Unless, of course, you consider our spirits/souls/whatever having been there all along.
True, but can you definitely say that we have the tools today to measure whether our universe is flat, curved, spheical, hyperbolical, whatever?
Personally I don't think so.
Finally, out-typing a SYSTEM is completely different from out-typing a modem, which is really what the original post was claiming to have done.
So was I, I talked about out-typing the 2400 baud modem on a Ansi-enabled vt-220 emulator (a program wchi emulates a vt220 terminal, which is exactly what your typical Xterm (Eterm/gnome terminal/kterm, etc...) is...
I said nothing about out-typing a system.
So, at 6 characters per word, that would mean that you were a 300wpm typist. I remember outtyping 2400baud modems all the time, but you can't count it out exactly like that.
for one you vastly undercounted (9 bits/char not 10, remember 8N1 (normal) or 7E2 (compuserve)? 8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit or 7 data, even parity, 2 stop bit.
4 chars is a word, spaces are considered characters, so 'a a ' is just as much one word as 'four'.
but when I was outtyping 2400baud, it was on an ansi-enabled vt220 emulator, i could usually get a full line or two ahead of certain mail composers, and very easily get about 5 or 6 screen refreshes ahead of BRE. (I used to play 300 turns in about 7 minutes).
It's not too hard to outtype low-speed modems after you factor in control characters, remote echo, and line latency.
Yes but why has noone yet written an open source variant? (and if they have where can I get it)
I wanna host it online for my old bbs friends, rather than play it with a buch of little kids i dont know over a telnet--bbs gateway.
back in the days of BBS all the users on the nodes i frequented knew each other... we actually gathered irl once a month... it was great, there was over 100 of us, discussing our strategies in bre and TW2002 for the past month and some for the month to come.
which brings onther great game... BRE... I wanna server that too... ne1 know where I can find it?
I love my Logitech keyboard for that exact same reason (cordless iTouch, although I never use the multimedia keys).
Perfect key action, and all the keys are exactly where they should be...
Now if only it were self-cleaning... you should see the amount of tar buildup from cigartte smoke et.al on they keys I don't use (numpad for example).
Not completely, as NAT also removes information about the NATted network. How many hosts are there? Which of the hosts behind the firewall is this?
So does the ESTABLISHED,RELATED firewall rule.
If unknown people cannot penetrate your firewall with a ping or whatever else (since a ping is neither established nor related) they cannot realistically determine if any host on said network exists, so all they know is there is a possibility og being 2^64 or however many IPs happen to be in your subnet.
This is the same with NAT, people can only realistically guess that there may be up to 2^24 hosts behind your network.
In either case there is no way for someone to know how many hosts are up unless you specifically allow them through the firewall (say for a webserver or IRC or some such host)
It takes a genius to make something that breaks down and forces people to spend money repairing it.
Close, it doesn't take a genius to make it... it takes a genius to sell
Your examples are accurate (in the cases of Nintendo and Microsoft anyways)
In a timespan of billions of years, 2500+ years is quite recent... Bear in mind I said "geologically/cosmologically speaking...
Actually, the current evidence, especially from CMB experiments like MAP, strongly suggest that we are in a flat universe
Yeah... and up until very recently (geologically/cosmologically speaking, of course), all the evidence we had pointed towards the world being flat...
Then we devised new experiments and measuring techniques (in this case someone sailed over the 'edge of the world' and came back)... and suddenly the world was no longer flat.
In 1997, as an OAC (formerly gr.13 in Ontario, now a thing of the past completely) student, I had a similar overbearing Admin (of course I mean head of the business department, but happened to have the most computer knowledge of all the employees in the school). I was a part-time student at the time (2 classes a day) and my independant study for OA Eglish was due later that morning.
My printer at home had died so I was unable to print it out for submission (the teacher would not accept a soft copy).
I had the teacher allow me access to one of the computer labs (which happened to be locked when he let me in). Within 2 minutes of me logging in the sysadmin stormed in and told me to leave the lab, as I was banned.
I asked him why, at which point he asked what I was doing, who let me in, etc.
This is the whole problem with schools, is the shoot first, ask questions later mentality of people who are doing a job that they have neither the intelligence, experience, or time to do.
Do you mean you blocked all access to the AOL AIM servers because that is what I believe you would have to do to actually *block* AIM.
Even that can be broken by some of the more computer-literate students.
Just setup a box on your parent's cable modem/ADSL line which forwards all packets coming from the school's IP on specific ports to the AIM servers, or setup an AIM proxy at home and route throught that completely.
I think it may have something to do with a family guy episode which some /.'er must have seen recently...
In it, Peter gets a new car after the mob steals his junker for insurance money.
While showing the car to his neighbors, he displays the talking navigation system, and how it can speak in English, Spanish, and Russian. In Russian, the directions were 'In Soviet Russia... car drives you'...
Of course I could be talking out my ass... but that's my theory... makes sense tome...
we had to work out the algorithm in our heads in the snow uphill going both ways...
I remember the times my dad used to tell me this story all the time...
Now I just say 'Shut up, Dad; or I'm putting you in a home'...
I think my concern is that most users aren't gonna know to "startx" again immediately after that.
If they didn't know how to type 'startx' to get into X in the first place, it means they're running by default in runlevel 4. In this case, hitting ctrl+alt+bkspace kills X and it simply respawns, so they don't have to type 'startx', or simply 'X', as linked by default in most X installations (definitely any stock distro that I have seen).
Oh yeah, and Anonymous Coward really is this one guy
Hey, Anonymous Coward... Can you share your secret with the rest of us? How do you get around the 2 minute submission restriction?
If you're after a recreational substance that makes you smart and attractive when you consume it, I suggest beer.
Close... but no cigar(rette)... (I know... I was wrong...)
Beer makes you think you're smart...but it doesn't make you more attractive... it makes other people more attractive...
Yes, my whole out look on the prison system is based on Office Space
No... There were no conjugal visits...
He was in a Federal 'Pound-You-In-The-Ass' Prison was he not?
Unless I had truncated the phrase from "the world war that had just occured." Which is fair usage. Badda bing! My grammar triumphs once again.
You would get points there had you truncated...
You ended your statement, however, with a period, thus concluding your idea.
Ooooh... denied...
Readily convertable to dead-tree format by every printer. Ever. Backward and forward portable on every 7- and 8-bit machine in existance. Ever. Readable on any screen by well over 1/3 the world's population. Can convey an immense amount of information.
Close but not quite. C64 does not use the same ascii table as our PCs.
I remember (way back in the day) transfering an ascii file from my cousin's IBM to my C64 and only 1 in 5 words was readable, if even that.
Who is that girl in red? Book joke... If you have never read the book you won't get it. If you have read the book then... ok fine, its not funny.
i hope i'm not mixing this up with some other book... it must have been more then 7 or 8 years sence I read it.
Nope, Not a book, a movie...
Fiona Johnson is the 'lady in the red dress' in The Matrix
Disclaimer: I haven't read the book... parent may be correct...
No, if car companies worked like software companies, their business model would be as follows:
1. Buy a car: You pay for the key, you get the car for free.
2. If you lose your key (still having the car), you must buy a key at full price (10k+, depending on the make/model) to use the existing car.
3. If you make a copy of your key (at a cost of ~$1), you will be charged with piracy (and in this case, possibly conspiracy to commit a crime (grand larceny).
That is wrong. End of story.
we should ALL send him a copy of the "two hour" memo along with his TSP reports!
Although it may be more effective to send the memo with the one about the TPS reports.
And please forward this to 20 of your closest friends
There was a man from Earth, true story, who didn't forward this, and he died. Do you really want that to happen to you? If not, please FORWARD THIS EMAIL!!!
If not a garage then restaurants. You think if you go to the bar and buy a beer that you won't have to pay for it if they don't explicitly tell you how much it costs?
That's an even dumber reference.
In bars and restaurants, prices are posted. For things like drinks, usually on a board above or near the bar. For the food, on a menu which is readily available.
The problem is that he did not offer to fix their network, they asked him to... Since no contract was arranged prior to the labor, they should be expecting a bill and expecting to pay it.