"The next Windows Server version--code-named Longhorn--will include support for Intel's 64-bit Itanium family, of course, but it will also support 2-4 other 64-bit platforms, including AMD's Opteron, said Brian Valentine. "We will only support high volume 64-bit platforms," he said, alluding to problems Microsoft had supporting alternative architectures such as the MIPs and PowerPC on NT 4. "We will support them fully with key enterprise applications. There may be a slight lag time after the x86-64 release [of these applications], but we will support [the new platforms]." Valentine wouldn't elaborate on which 64-bit platforms Microsoft was currently evaluating."
...if this is one of the 64-bit procs that some recent web article had an MS exec making noises about? Something to the effect of supporting *several* 64-bit procs, which means Itanium of course, and probably AMD, but who'd be left (Alpha being dead).
Interesting thought to say the least.
(Anyone else recall that article or have a link to it?)
The artist crowd is not predisposed to working with the intricacies of Linux (it ain't there yet folks) and given the large opposition every time discussion turns to making Linux easier to use, I can't really see the point.
If I'm missing something, please enlighten me (and others, I'm sure)
Really... If we're gonna ask folks to RTFM, etc, to understand their computer systems which NOT A LOT OF NON-TECH PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT, then why can people double-check their spelling or grammar, which *everyone* needs to know and use?!?!?!
Or are you "techies" above that?
Croikies!!!
you CANNOT bitch about people not "getting it" with respect to Linux/*BSD/etc, if YOU can't be bothered with understanding something universal (on this forum at least, which is largely English-based, not meaning to leave out other countries/languages)...
here I was, thinking I wouldn't fill up my new 160GB hard drive any time soon. Silly me.
Seeing as the disk drive industry is in some pain, they gotta be cheering stuff like this on! A 160GB drive ain't so tough when you stuff it with hours of [your favorite TV shows / movies]:-)
then OpenGL will survive solely on Linux (if it survives at all).
I'm gonna guess that there are now more MacOSX *desktop* users than Linux *desktop* users, so this could be a shot at Apple, who is moving their gorgeous-but-heavy Aqua interface to OpenGL in Jaguar for the purposes of hardware acceleration...
I still don't think MS cares a whit about Linux...yet.
BTW, (responding to a different post), I don't think John Carmack is a fool - if the OpenGL lake dries up, I'd guess he'd go fishing elsewhere...
...Dell and Oracle would certainly lend cred to the PHBs (who don't find any in Redhat. Really, they don't - don't kid yourself).
And with PHBs being more comfortable everywhere, that means the possibility of more ISV stuff which is currently held up by politics (as opposed to tech issues) alone.
it's good to have the people with the extreme views about.
No one is going to read or mod this (too late in the posting session) but if they do, it'll probably be marked as flamebait, but...
That basic argument could be used as support for the viewpoints of people like Hitler, and as thus should *not*, IMO, hold water...
This is an admittedly extreme, yet NO LESS VALID, take on that statement.
Quartz Extreme: Takes the compositing engine in Quartz, and accelerates it in graphics cards. Combines 2D, 3D and video in one hardware pipeline via OpenGL. "Everything on the screen is being drawn in hardware by OpenGL." Requires AGP 2x and 32MB of video RAM.
There *IS* a caveat:
It is not possible on older graphics cards like RAGE 128 cards, said Jobs -- that means it'll work on newer iMacs and eMacs, but not on older machines, he emphasized. AGP 2x and 32MB video RAM are required for this new technology. Jobs said this puts Apple two years ahead of "the other guys."
Last year I had a data T1 fail, so I called the Business Support Group. Got a tech on the line and explained the trouble. He asked if he could put me on hold and look into it; I agreed and he put me on hold.
After 5 minutes or so, my phone rings, so I park the line on hold and pick up the second call.
It's the same tech from Verizon calling to let us know that our circuit was down! I explained that *I* was the one who just called him and he became extremely confused (as if he wasn't before).
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If you have a need for the scalability, reliability, high-availability in Oracle (or similar), then MySQL isn't even a consideration.
Maybe someday. But not today.
There it is.
The attitude that will, if not changed, keep Linux off the desktop forever... :-/
http://www.winsupersite.com/reviews/winnetserver_r c1.asp
"The next Windows Server version--code-named Longhorn--will include support for Intel's 64-bit Itanium family, of course, but it will also support 2-4 other 64-bit platforms, including AMD's Opteron, said Brian Valentine. "We will only support high volume 64-bit platforms," he said, alluding to problems Microsoft had supporting alternative architectures such as the MIPs and PowerPC on NT 4. "We will support them fully with key enterprise applications. There may be a slight lag time after the x86-64 release [of these applications], but we will support [the new platforms]." Valentine wouldn't elaborate on which 64-bit platforms Microsoft was currently evaluating."
...if this is one of the 64-bit procs that some recent web article had an MS exec making noises about? Something to the effect of supporting *several* 64-bit procs, which means Itanium of course, and probably AMD, but who'd be left (Alpha being dead).
Interesting thought to say the least.
(Anyone else recall that article or have a link to it?)
If I'm missing something, please enlighten me (and others, I'm sure)
...but around *mine*, a Dreamcast would be noticed REAL quick! :-)
So...
He's not afraid of The Man, but he IS afraid of The Woman...
Nothin' new here...
Pud at F---edcompany.com will tell ya time and time again:
givin' stuff away for free (this means Linux, sites, etc) don't pay like it used to...
you could simply take pride in a job well done.
To everyone's big suprise
It's SURPRISE!!!
Really... If we're gonna ask folks to RTFM, etc, to understand their computer systems which NOT A LOT OF NON-TECH PEOPLE GIVE A DAMN ABOUT, then why can people double-check their spelling or grammar, which *everyone* needs to know and use?!?!?!
Or are you "techies" above that?
Croikies!!!
you CANNOT bitch about people not "getting it" with respect to Linux/*BSD/etc, if YOU can't be bothered with understanding something universal (on this forum at least, which is largely English-based, not meaning to leave out other countries/languages)...
here I was, thinking I wouldn't fill up my new 160GB hard drive any time soon. Silly me.
Seeing as the disk drive industry is in some pain, they gotta be cheering stuff like this on! A 160GB drive ain't so tough when you stuff it with hours of [your favorite TV shows / movies] :-)
So, is Microsoft going to go to the trouble of porting
Nope, Westlake is.
And their track record suggests they'll do a fantastic job.
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Information wants...you to shut your pie hole.
This is no more a Mac case clone than a Hyundai is a Ferrari clone
IM(NS)HO, of course
then OpenGL will survive solely on Linux (if it survives at all).
I'm gonna guess that there are now more MacOSX *desktop* users than Linux *desktop* users, so this could be a shot at Apple, who is moving their gorgeous-but-heavy Aqua interface to OpenGL in Jaguar for the purposes of hardware acceleration...
I still don't think MS cares a whit about Linux...yet.
BTW, (responding to a different post), I don't think John Carmack is a fool - if the OpenGL lake dries up, I'd guess he'd go fishing elsewhere...
BECAUSE I HAVEN'T LAUGHED SO HARD IN WEEKS
And it's rather true, as you'll find if you poke about Sourceforge...
P.S. The *&^%$#@! lameness filter wouldn't let me quote the whole sentence because of too many capital letters.
What a fu**ing joke. Idiot f***ing moron who wrote that should...
Weird.
Wonder what that was all about...
They even had lacrosse sticks that appeared to be made out of bamboo
They're not broken *or* cheap, they're girls' lacrosse sticks.. that's how they're traditionally made:
http://www.girlslacrossegear.com/stxwoodlacst.html
Looks to me like someone was just in the mood to b1tch...
...Dell and Oracle would certainly lend cred to the PHBs (who don't find any in Redhat. Really, they don't - don't kid yourself).
And with PHBs being more comfortable everywhere, that means the possibility of more ISV stuff which is currently held up by politics (as opposed to tech issues) alone.
And that would be Good (TM)
it's good to have the people with the extreme views about.
No one is going to read or mod this (too late in the posting session) but if they do, it'll probably be marked as flamebait, but...
That basic argument could be used as support for the viewpoints of people like Hitler, and as thus should *not*, IMO, hold water... This is an admittedly extreme, yet NO LESS VALID, take on that statement.
Someone mod the parent up!!!
I had the exact same thought!
on a board that caters to the freedom and liberty crowd, that kinda nonsense should NOT fly!
I, for one, am waiting for the GNU/Troll
Guess you didn't read yet:
Quartz Extreme: Takes the compositing engine in Quartz, and accelerates it in graphics cards. Combines 2D, 3D and video in one hardware pipeline via OpenGL. "Everything on the screen is being drawn in hardware by OpenGL." Requires AGP 2x and 32MB of video RAM.
There *IS* a caveat:
It is not possible on older graphics cards like RAGE 128 cards, said Jobs -- that means it'll work on newer iMacs and eMacs, but not on older machines, he emphasized. AGP 2x and 32MB video RAM are required for this new technology. Jobs said this puts Apple two years ahead of "the other guys."
First it was viral...
"Crayons taste like purple!"
See this specs on this box - pretty hardcore!
"and 700 gigahertz G4 processors"
700 GIGAhertz!!! Holy smoking Itanium, Batman!!!
http://digitalmass.boston.com/news/2002/04/29/emac . tml
Last year I had a data T1 fail, so I called the Business Support Group. Got a tech on the line and explained the trouble. He asked if he could put me on hold and look into it; I agreed and he put me on hold.
After 5 minutes or so, my phone rings, so I park the line on hold and pick up the second call.
It's the same tech from Verizon calling to let us know that our circuit was down! I explained that *I* was the one who just called him and he became extremely confused (as if he wasn't before).
That was something else, lemme tell ya!