Yah, I mentioned this in another post. It's probably the first, and is using a fairly new and expensive NOx absorber. Nothing like another new technology to add to the already super reliable VW:)
Half kidding here, I'm just not a VW fan, I do hope it works out for them and helps things move along.
Right or wrong, the typical euro diesel car won't pass the emission standards here. Different set of rules in Europe than in the US. In Europe gas is expensive so they worry more about gallons used, in the US where gas was cheaper it was about NOx polutants.
On business I've spent quite a bit of time in Rouen, France of the last year. When I first went there they Cathedral in the center of town was black as night from grime. Now this is like 800 years of grime so I'm not blaming it all on disel. A month or so later I went back and was amazed that the entire front was almost ivory white compared to what it had been. Then about 2 months later I went back and guess what, it was already starting to lose its shine. Everyone that was with my made the same comment. How much of it was from diesel cars? No idea, but it certainly doesn't help. I've been to NYC, Boston, and many other large US cities and guess what, none of them have the diesel smell of European cities. Just my observations
Detroit sells plenty of diesels, both domestically in larger trucks where the emissions restrictions are less limited and in their overseas division (Opel after all is a GM company and has a full line of diesels). SCR systems require an additive (usually urea) to be sprayed into the fuel. This requires filling, which requires some sort of infrastructure and maintenance plus the cost of refill. Other NOx absorbing systems are still new and fairly expensive (I believe the new TDIs use this, which I think was the first diesel car approved for sale in the US that meets CA emission standards?). As these problems are solved you'll start to see diesels. Depending on what their cost of ownership is.
The reason that diesels haven't kicked in is because they don't pass the emissions standards in any state that follow "California Emissions." Has nothing to do with the EPA at all. The fact that this includes California, NY, and all of New England reduces the number of potential buys so much that it's simply not worth pushing to market in the US.
Hopefully within a few years the auto manufacturers will produce vehicles that do pass and they'll become available. Juat about every automaker has new engines coming to market that do meet the requirements, so things should change soon
Simple, you get a big track. First you do laps where you vary the speed on each lap but dont stop. Then you turn on traffic lights on the track that you have to obey. there's no need to actually enter traffic to simulate it. You just need a set of rules to behave by.
Or, you just stick the think in a wind tunnel and determine some drag values and add them to the calculation, or make the manufacturer who surely has already done this turn over some data. This is probably the better solution at it completely removes how people drive.
I think I had also read that they had 2 plans. One being splitting season 2 into 2 seasons (an HBO season only being around 10 episodes), where season 2 would have ended when Marc Antony goes back to Egypt. Knowing how dificult that was going to be to fund they also had plans for wrapping it all up in 1 more season, which was what they ended up doing.
I think this is a bit apparent in the last few episodes they seemed a bit rushed to wrap things up. They never really delve into the Marc Antony going bonkers over being Egyption, it just kind of happens and then he dies. Even another half dozen episodes would have tied things together a bit more fluidly.
Oh well, money talks, it still makes my list of the best TV show. It's just too bad that the DVD is like $75/season. Will have to wait until Speilberg finishes up his Pacific version of "Band of Brothers" for the next real quality made-for-tv production.
I agree, the first season was gripping and interesting. From there on it started to feel like they were trying too hard to fill episodes with as much 'controversial' overtones as possible. It ended up being laborous and uninteresting to get into.
For me, the real upsetting show to lose was Rome on HBO. I thought it was a much better show and one of the few that I would make a point to catch on the first viewing (like BSG the first season). Unfortunately, at like $100M season it just was too expensive. Shame.
Right, because forcing those catalytic converter things really fell through, it's too hard to enforce. Seat belts too. Third brake light. MPG standards don't currently exist either. No other state has adopted California Emissions standards because it takes too many resources. Luckily for us Energy consumption isn't very high on the priority list for the country.
Oddly enough it was something that appeared in a lot of cars in the late 80s, early 90s. There was probably a lull in new gadgets to add to try and justify the increases in car prices each year so threw it in to try to make spending more money on basically last years model car was worth it. I think the Corvette was probably one of the first domestic cars to have a true digital mpg reading when they came out with their fancy cockpit controls in the early 80s. Talk about something you either loved or hated.
I think the car manufacturers decided that giving everyone electronic seat positions and windows was a better way to spend the money because it hides the hideous mpg.
And that spedometer, what waste. Just drive so the trees don't go buy too fast. The tacometer? when the engine whines, shift! Isn't this slashdot where we deserve access to all information? Including our current mpg rate?
In any case, most cars don't. I've yet to buy a car that does have it standard and while they aren't BMWs they aren't bottom line. I don't believe the Honda Accord has it standard, at least 2-3 years ago it didnt.
And guess what, for every M3 and A4 that is bought 100 average joe's do buy bottom of the line cars. These are the vast majority of cars and are where the effort should be directed.
If you want to talk ridiculous regulation take a look at the current bill being proposed which sets mpg limits for the year 2019 or something stupid like that. This is actually a case where the government can actually do something immediately useful and benign at the same time. That's pretty rare.
That's the thing, it's not new, it's not expensive, it certainly would help, so why isn't a bill passed requiring all new cars to display mpg statistics? My father's early 90s chrysler had this. You could get current usage, trip usage, and overall life of the car usage. All displayed on a nice little digital readout next to the odometer.
I think that at least for some percentage of the population it would ease their driving habits. It almost becomes a game to try to milk that last mpg out.
I think this was available for my Jeep, but it came with the special upgrade package that includes the special control panel with the nice sun glass holders in it. Of course it was like $400 to I opted out of it.
Just like a catalytic converter, a fuel usage display should be mandated. It's cheap and has potential.
Of course the car manufactures don't want it because then people would see how bogus their epa ratings really are.
I'm sure in such a poor county that the level of education can't be that great, but seriously- how could people so poor be so stupid as to think this was something in their favor? While I'm not a huge fan of NM, I did spend 4 years in dona ana county going to school at new mexico state university. The above sentence is only partly accurate. As a whole, NM has perhaps the highest percentage of PHDs in the country thanks to Los Alamos, Sandia, White Sands, VLA and countless other research areas. Remember this is a state with only around 1 million people.
Las Cruces is the 3rd largest city in the state, the home of NMSU, a pretty progressive area and is only about 30 minutes from White Sands Missile Range. NMSU is actually a pretty good school. I had one professor who used to work on the nuclear simulations for Sandia, and another who started his career working in computers during WW2 when they switched over from scores of women computing artillery trajectories to a computer. Apparently for this they used to run the program until they got the same result 3 times in a row. He had lots interesting stories.
The area has a long history of being on the cutting edge of things like this because of it's location and remoteless.
That being said, this is also what I didn't like about NM as a whole. You basically have a very small set up egg heads and their billion dollar projects, and the rest of the state is there to build roads for them and pour their coffee. Coming from New England this really stuck out to me. So much of the state is dead poor and they are pretty much there to make places like Los Alamos, Sandia, White Sands, and now possibly this Space Port livable for their employees.
This is simply how their economy works. So to say they are being taken advantage of is not entirely accurate. The people doing the talking with Virgin are all knowledgable in this area, perhaps more so than almost anywhere else. It's actually a pretty nice fit and they see it as making an investment in their future in order to supplement the cuts in government spending in the area.
Oh please. 150lbs is not even worth them considering. You're talking around half of your average slashdotter here;) Compare that to the weight of the paint that they use to make their planes pretty.
All the saved weight is is a talking point after the fact. It never played into any decision. Boeing just wants to make sure that they don't pull an Airbus and fall a year + behind schedule. Development was obviously lagging on this subsystem so they are going to plan B to ensure delivery. It's all about time, not weight.
The fact that you are asking about something that has to do with kids pretty much excludes just about everyone here. Unless they've become lax and have started letting people living in their parents basement adopt kids.
Try going back 100 years where you couldnt do it at all. Quit your bitching and be thankful for what you can do. Your worst day traveling, other than getting blown up, still beats taking a tramp steamer across the ocean or a train for 3000 miles.
A major inconvenience is being stuck somewhere for a month, being shot, having a piano fall on your head. You call yourself a "road warrior", but your bitching makes you a "road pussy". If traveling is part of the business you chose to be in then deal with what it comes with. Or are you one of these people that deserves everything to go your way in life.
Not to mention that if you travel that much you are getting more than enough miles to make up for all of these major life altering inconveniences.
Do you people travel with no money or just go to places that don't have stores where you can buy clothes and toiletry items? If you are traveling on business and it happens put it on your expense report. If you are on vacation then you probably were going shopping at some point anyway. Lost luggage is not the end of the world.
Granted losing your computer/briefcase on a business trip would suck, but not as much as getting blown out of the sky.
I don't really understand why this is always stated as a right/wrong argument. The likely result will be that both are right. There is plenty of demand and the two fit different but overlapping needs/goals.
I do a decent amount of flying and have never been on a 747 because I do mostly domestic. Unless I go overseas I'll probably never go on a 380. However if I need to fly from Boston to CA or Vegas there will be a pretty good chance it could be on a 787.
There is plenty of money and need for both, so both will thrive and no knockout punches will be landed.
You really don't understand ethics. It's not about if you can, it's about if you should. Apparently by Harvards standards these people failed the test.
If you're walking across campus and stumble upon the answers to an upcoming test, is it ethical to use it to your advantage? The answer is no. Get caught doing this, especially at Harvard, and chances are you are in big trouble.
When you apply to Harvard you agree to play by their rules. Obviously, looking at these documents before they are released is considered not to be ethical by Hardvard, which is a big no no to any business school. Does the fact that they are not properly secured change this fact? No. It would be really funny if this whole thing was a ploy and part of their new entrance exam test. Guess these people failed.
Besides, it's a private school, they can do whatever the hell they want.
So where's the donation? You've just reenforced the idea that the majority of linux users are so because it's free and they are cheap bastards, not because it's more reliable or better. Take half the money they save from not buying windows and put it towards charity. That might actually change the world in some way.
Until then, give Bill some credit, or consider your MS purchases charity. There are probably some charity orgs out there that have a lower use per dollar ratio to an actual charitable use than each sale of an MS product.
when PeopleSoft did the same thing after buying JDEdwards? Don't make them seem like a poor victim when they are only drinking the same medicine they dished out and were still in the process of dishing out.
eh? So you're saying all these chemicals are added between harvesting and distribution? Granted, some are in order to keep them fresh, but most chemicals come from either soil preparation or during growing. Just because it's a small town farmer doesn't mean it's organic. Chemicals have been used for generations by everyone who farms, regardless of size. Hell, 20 years ago virtually everyone with a backyard garden added chemicals, and even now many do. Chemicals are cheap and can make harvests more predictable, this is something you need no matter what your size, some might argue it's even more important for the little guy. Just cuz they're small doesn't make them organic.
Oh please, it's not like it started zooming around in random directions. It's in exactly the same place it was before, it's just useless now. And besides, there's plenty of room up there. The chances of a plane falling on your head when you go outside is greater than this thing suddeny reaking havoc in the heavens.
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The problem with all of the above is that a minor garage visit now has your extra costs exceeding your ~20% fuel savings for the next few years.
Yah, I mentioned this in another post. It's probably the first, and is using a fairly new and expensive NOx absorber. Nothing like another new technology to add to the already super reliable VW :)
Half kidding here, I'm just not a VW fan, I do hope it works out for them and helps things move along.Right or wrong, the typical euro diesel car won't pass the emission standards here. Different set of rules in Europe than in the US. In Europe gas is expensive so they worry more about gallons used, in the US where gas was cheaper it was about NOx polutants.
On business I've spent quite a bit of time in Rouen, France of the last year. When I first went there they Cathedral in the center of town was black as night from grime. Now this is like 800 years of grime so I'm not blaming it all on disel. A month or so later I went back and was amazed that the entire front was almost ivory white compared to what it had been. Then about 2 months later I went back and guess what, it was already starting to lose its shine. Everyone that was with my made the same comment. How much of it was from diesel cars? No idea, but it certainly doesn't help. I've been to NYC, Boston, and many other large US cities and guess what, none of them have the diesel smell of European cities. Just my observations
Detroit sells plenty of diesels, both domestically in larger trucks where the emissions restrictions are less limited and in their overseas division (Opel after all is a GM company and has a full line of diesels). SCR systems require an additive (usually urea) to be sprayed into the fuel. This requires filling, which requires some sort of infrastructure and maintenance plus the cost of refill. Other NOx absorbing systems are still new and fairly expensive (I believe the new TDIs use this, which I think was the first diesel car approved for sale in the US that meets CA emission standards?). As these problems are solved you'll start to see diesels. Depending on what their cost of ownership is.
The reason that diesels haven't kicked in is because they don't pass the emissions standards in any state that follow "California Emissions." Has nothing to do with the EPA at all. The fact that this includes California, NY, and all of New England reduces the number of potential buys so much that it's simply not worth pushing to market in the US.
Hopefully within a few years the auto manufacturers will produce vehicles that do pass and they'll become available. Juat about every automaker has new engines coming to market that do meet the requirements, so things should change soon
Simple, you get a big track. First you do laps where you vary the speed on each lap but dont stop. Then you turn on traffic lights on the track that you have to obey. there's no need to actually enter traffic to simulate it. You just need a set of rules to behave by.
Or, you just stick the think in a wind tunnel and determine some drag values and add them to the calculation, or make the manufacturer who surely has already done this turn over some data. This is probably the better solution at it completely removes how people drive.
I think I had also read that they had 2 plans. One being splitting season 2 into 2 seasons (an HBO season only being around 10 episodes), where season 2 would have ended when Marc Antony goes back to Egypt. Knowing how dificult that was going to be to fund they also had plans for wrapping it all up in 1 more season, which was what they ended up doing.
I think this is a bit apparent in the last few episodes they seemed a bit rushed to wrap things up. They never really delve into the Marc Antony going bonkers over being Egyption, it just kind of happens and then he dies. Even another half dozen episodes would have tied things together a bit more fluidly.
Oh well, money talks, it still makes my list of the best TV show. It's just too bad that the DVD is like $75/season. Will have to wait until Speilberg finishes up his Pacific version of "Band of Brothers" for the next real quality made-for-tv production.
I agree, the first season was gripping and interesting. From there on it started to feel like they were trying too hard to fill episodes with as much 'controversial' overtones as possible. It ended up being laborous and uninteresting to get into.
For me, the real upsetting show to lose was Rome on HBO. I thought it was a much better show and one of the few that I would make a point to catch on the first viewing (like BSG the first season). Unfortunately, at like $100M season it just was too expensive. Shame.
Right, because forcing those catalytic converter things really fell through, it's too hard to enforce. Seat belts too. Third brake light. MPG standards don't currently exist either. No other state has adopted California Emissions standards because it takes too many resources. Luckily for us Energy consumption isn't very high on the priority list for the country.
Oddly enough it was something that appeared in a lot of cars in the late 80s, early 90s. There was probably a lull in new gadgets to add to try and justify the increases in car prices each year so threw it in to try to make spending more money on basically last years model car was worth it. I think the Corvette was probably one of the first domestic cars to have a true digital mpg reading when they came out with their fancy cockpit controls in the early 80s. Talk about something you either loved or hated.
I think the car manufacturers decided that giving everyone electronic seat positions and windows was a better way to spend the money because it hides the hideous mpg.
And that spedometer, what waste. Just drive so the trees don't go buy too fast. The tacometer? when the engine whines, shift! Isn't this slashdot where we deserve access to all information? Including our current mpg rate?
In any case, most cars don't. I've yet to buy a car that does have it standard and while they aren't BMWs they aren't bottom line. I don't believe the Honda Accord has it standard, at least 2-3 years ago it didnt.
And guess what, for every M3 and A4 that is bought 100 average joe's do buy bottom of the line cars. These are the vast majority of cars and are where the effort should be directed.
If you want to talk ridiculous regulation take a look at the current bill being proposed which sets mpg limits for the year 2019 or something stupid like that. This is actually a case where the government can actually do something immediately useful and benign at the same time. That's pretty rare.
That's the thing, it's not new, it's not expensive, it certainly would help, so why isn't a bill passed requiring all new cars to display mpg statistics? My father's early 90s chrysler had this. You could get current usage, trip usage, and overall life of the car usage. All displayed on a nice little digital readout next to the odometer. I think that at least for some percentage of the population it would ease their driving habits. It almost becomes a game to try to milk that last mpg out. I think this was available for my Jeep, but it came with the special upgrade package that includes the special control panel with the nice sun glass holders in it. Of course it was like $400 to I opted out of it. Just like a catalytic converter, a fuel usage display should be mandated. It's cheap and has potential. Of course the car manufactures don't want it because then people would see how bogus their epa ratings really are.
I'm sure in such a poor county that the level of education can't be that great, but seriously- how could people so poor be so stupid as to think this was something in their favor?
While I'm not a huge fan of NM, I did spend 4 years in dona ana county going to school at new mexico state university. The above sentence is only partly accurate. As a whole, NM has perhaps the highest percentage of PHDs in the country thanks to Los Alamos, Sandia, White Sands, VLA and countless other research areas. Remember this is a state with only around 1 million people.
Las Cruces is the 3rd largest city in the state, the home of NMSU, a pretty progressive area and is only about 30 minutes from White Sands Missile Range. NMSU is actually a pretty good school. I had one professor who used to work on the nuclear simulations for Sandia, and another who started his career working in computers during WW2 when they switched over from scores of women computing artillery trajectories to a computer. Apparently for this they used to run the program until they got the same result 3 times in a row. He had lots interesting stories.
The area has a long history of being on the cutting edge of things like this because of it's location and remoteless.
That being said, this is also what I didn't like about NM as a whole. You basically have a very small set up egg heads and their billion dollar projects, and the rest of the state is there to build roads for them and pour their coffee. Coming from New England this really stuck out to me. So much of the state is dead poor and they are pretty much there to make places like Los Alamos, Sandia, White Sands, and now possibly this Space Port livable for their employees.
This is simply how their economy works. So to say they are being taken advantage of is not entirely accurate. The people doing the talking with Virgin are all knowledgable in this area, perhaps more so than almost anywhere else. It's actually a pretty nice fit and they see it as making an investment in their future in order to supplement the cuts in government spending in the area.
Oh please. 150lbs is not even worth them considering. You're talking around half of your average slashdotter here ;) Compare that to the weight of the paint that they use to make their planes pretty.
All the saved weight is is a talking point after the fact. It never played into any decision. Boeing just wants to make sure that they don't pull an Airbus and fall a year + behind schedule. Development was obviously lagging on this subsystem so they are going to plan B to ensure delivery. It's all about time, not weight.
The fact that you are asking about something that has to do with kids pretty much excludes just about everyone here. Unless they've become lax and have started letting people living in their parents basement adopt kids.
Try going back 100 years where you couldnt do it at all. Quit your bitching and be thankful for what you can do. Your worst day traveling, other than getting blown up, still beats taking a tramp steamer across the ocean or a train for 3000 miles. A major inconvenience is being stuck somewhere for a month, being shot, having a piano fall on your head. You call yourself a "road warrior", but your bitching makes you a "road pussy". If traveling is part of the business you chose to be in then deal with what it comes with. Or are you one of these people that deserves everything to go your way in life. Not to mention that if you travel that much you are getting more than enough miles to make up for all of these major life altering inconveniences.
Do you people travel with no money or just go to places that don't have stores where you can buy clothes and toiletry items? If you are traveling on business and it happens put it on your expense report. If you are on vacation then you probably were going shopping at some point anyway. Lost luggage is not the end of the world. Granted losing your computer/briefcase on a business trip would suck, but not as much as getting blown out of the sky.
Afterall, they shouldn't have what is on there now. Why do they expect a mulligan?
I don't really understand why this is always stated as a right/wrong argument. The likely result will be that both are right. There is plenty of demand and the two fit different but overlapping needs/goals.
I do a decent amount of flying and have never been on a 747 because I do mostly domestic. Unless I go overseas I'll probably never go on a 380. However if I need to fly from Boston to CA or Vegas there will be a pretty good chance it could be on a 787.
There is plenty of money and need for both, so both will thrive and no knockout punches will be landed.
You really don't understand ethics. It's not about if you can, it's about if you should. Apparently by Harvards standards these people failed the test.
If you're walking across campus and stumble upon the answers to an upcoming test, is it ethical to use it to your advantage? The answer is no. Get caught doing this, especially at Harvard, and chances are you are in big trouble.
When you apply to Harvard you agree to play by their rules. Obviously, looking at these documents before they are released is considered not to be ethical by Hardvard, which is a big no no to any business school. Does the fact that they are not properly secured change this fact? No. It would be really funny if this whole thing was a ploy and part of their new entrance exam test. Guess these people failed.
Besides, it's a private school, they can do whatever the hell they want.
So where's the donation? You've just reenforced the idea that the majority of linux users are so because it's free and they are cheap bastards, not because it's more reliable or better. Take half the money they save from not buying windows and put it towards charity. That might actually change the world in some way.
Until then, give Bill some credit, or consider your MS purchases charity. There are probably some charity orgs out there that have a lower use per dollar ratio to an actual charitable use than each sale of an MS product.
when PeopleSoft did the same thing after buying JDEdwards? Don't make them seem like a poor victim when they are only drinking the same medicine they dished out and were still in the process of dishing out.
eh? So you're saying all these chemicals are added between harvesting and distribution? Granted, some are in order to keep them fresh, but most chemicals come from either soil preparation or during growing. Just because it's a small town farmer doesn't mean it's organic. Chemicals have been used for generations by everyone who farms, regardless of size. Hell, 20 years ago virtually everyone with a backyard garden added chemicals, and even now many do. Chemicals are cheap and can make harvests more predictable, this is something you need no matter what your size, some might argue it's even more important for the little guy. Just cuz they're small doesn't make them organic.
Hey, I saw Mr Deeds (the remake) recently too!
Oh please, it's not like it started zooming around in random directions. It's in exactly the same place it was before, it's just useless now. And besides, there's plenty of room up there. The chances of a plane falling on your head when you go outside is greater than this thing suddeny reaking havoc in the heavens.
I dunno, at $65 a pop I'm sure many a petty theft has occured in order to buy a video game or two.
Actually, just the fact that they are that expensive in the first place should be considered theft.