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Intelsat-7 Lost In Space

freitasm writes "The Intelsat-7 was reported lost today. The satellite covered the continental U.S., Alaska, Hawaii, Canada, Central America, and parts of South America. It was used to provide digital programming in the Cable Zone, direct-to-user programming, and Internet and data applications to North/Central/South America. The company is already working on the launch of Intelsat-8, scheduled for 17 December."

214 comments

  1. Off by one error, again? by Project2501a · · Score: 5, Funny

    Fortran 3 :)
    Losing satelites in space, ever since 1964 :)

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    1. Re:Off by one error, again? by Project2501a · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      oh, yeah, fp

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    2. Re:Off by one error, again? by Maavin · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      damn you !

      I was thinking of something witty !
      ;)
      In other news: The SCO Site was slightly hacked...

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    3. Re:Off by one error, again? by Project2501a · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      We must be hanging out in the same EFnet irc channels...

      EFnet#C is for cookies. Share your recepies.

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    4. Re:Off by one error, again? by Negatif · · Score: 1

      Slightly old news by now.

    5. Re:Off by one error, again? by pe1rxq · · Score: 1

      Obviously doing things like this is wrong....
      However it was done very nice, on first sight nothing wrong untill you notice that the text in the image is just a little bit strange....

      Jeroen

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    6. Re:Off by one error, again? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1,000 in fact. The link page to the satellite's specs says:

      transponders 24 C-band @ 36 MHz
      24 Ku-band @ 36 MHz


      That should be GHz, not MHz.

      Meters, yards- close enough, right?

  2. I suspect.. by Burb · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doctor Smith... Warning Will Robinson

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    1. Re:I suspect.. by RipTides9x · · Score: 1

      Ground Control to Major Tom!!
      Your circuits dead, there's something wrong..
      Can you hear me Major Tom??...
      Can you hear me Major Tom??...
      Can you hear me Major Tom??...

  3. oh goodie by luke911 · · Score: 0, Funny

    more space junk, just what we all need.

  4. Corporate Espionage? by HFShadow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    "According to the agreement, the total loss of the IA-7 satellite would give the purchasers the right not to consummate the acquisition of Intelsat"

    Maybe they decided they didn't want the company after all, and it was cheaper to take out a satellite somehow then to break the contract? :)

    1. Re:Corporate Espionage? by WateryGrave · · Score: 5, Interesting

      This was my first thought as well. Given that they just *happen* to have a replacement going up in 2 weeks and then to experience an "anomaly" to stop the deal from consumating seems a bit suspicious. If either of these companies has stockholders, we may hear more in the future.

    2. Re:Corporate Espionage? by badfish99 · · Score: 1

      If it was really a sudden total failure, how do they know it was in the electrical system and not just a meteor strike or something? Sounds like someone was talking to the satellite's computer just when it decided to go wrong...

    3. Re:Corporate Espionage? by Detritus · · Score: 5, Informative

      When something like this happens, they often see anomalous telemetry readings before the complete failure of the spacecraft. For example, main power bus current goes from 10A to 200A and main power bus voltage starts going down, down, down. The engineering telemetry link on a geosynchronous spacecraft is usually monitored 24/7 by the spacecraft's control center.

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    4. Re:Corporate Espionage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Timmy! Have you been watching Apollo 13 again?

    5. Re:Corporate Espionage? by aacool · · Score: 1
      "Number 2 - Take that Satellite out now!"

      "Yes, Mr Blofeld"

      "SMERSH wins again! Number 4, telephone our client and tell them the acquisition is out."

    6. Re:Corporate Espionage? by stuktongue · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree that most commercial communications satellites are probably monitored on a regular, if not continuous, basis. I further agree that many anomalies have warning signs leading up to the failure that can give some indication of a pending problem. However, I have encountered many anomalies that provided no warning signs. In the power area, solar array degradation or degrading battery performance might show the signs you suggest, but there are critical failure modes associated with power distribution that can fail catastrophically with no notice. I am somewhat surprised that the design afforded no redundancy to mitigate such a failure, but you can't protect against everything. Sounds like a pretty freak occurrence to me.

    7. Re:Corporate Espionage? by Omron · · Score: 1

      I think they needed a way to kick off the Porno channels so they can get a better price for a cleaner Bird ;-)
      Happy Thanksgiving

  5. Direct-to-user-programming? by Advocadus+Diaboli · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does that mean the satellite is programming user brains with commercials? :-)

    Or do I have a wrong translation of "programming"? Sorry, I'm not a native speaker, but the use of "programming" instead of "broadcasting" looks a bit strange to me.

    1. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by oexeo · · Score: 5, Funny
      Does that mean the satellite is programming user brains with commercials? :-)

      Or do I have a wrong translation of "programming"? Sorry, I'm not a native speaker, but the use of "programming" instead of "broadcasting" looks a bit strange to me.

      Whenever something translates into complete moronic gibberish, yes, the chances are you translated it wrong, on no, wait, this is /., you probably translated it perfectly.

    2. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      Does that mean the satellite is programming user brains with commercials?

      Keep your tinfoil hat on just in case. Informative mod, please.

    3. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      Depends, programming CAN refer to behavioural modification. So I'f your tyring to make a joke, or wear a tinfoil hat. Then your translation works.
      If not maybe in this cas 'filling' as in pouring full of might work.

      Mycroft

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    4. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by CountBrass · · Score: 1

      Programming also refers to the collection of programs that make up a channels output. It's really more media-speak than every day English.

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    5. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Program

      The relevant definition is sort of a combination of the following:

      n.
      1a. A listing of the order of events and other pertinent information for a public presentation.
      2. A scheduled radio or television show.

      v.
      2. To design a program for; schedule the activities of.

      I believe also that programmer is the technical term for the person who actually schedules the TV programs (television shows). Once computers were created, I guess people thought of programming a computer as scheduling a series of events, which is actually not a bad analogy. Now the newer meaning ("programming a computer") has become the more popular one, as you can see by all the fools who responded who had no idea. Hope this helps.

    6. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by iantri · · Score: 1
      Television programs = programming.

      Hence, the [programming/television programs] [is/are] broadcast on satellite.

      I don't think the term is used that way much, though.

    7. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by bhima · · Score: 1

      English never makes since (or is it sense or cents?)

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    8. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by NardofDoom · · Score: 1

      You write English very well for a non-native speaker. However, I would expect nothing less from a six-digit UID. :-)

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    9. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by Dhalka226 · · Score: 1

      Please, oh PLEASE, I hope I get a chance to meta-mod the people who marked this funny!

    10. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by lcsjk · · Score: 1

      A TV, Satellite, Radio all broadcast or transmit "programs" to the public. These programs can be music, news, movies, conversations, commercials/advertisements or any other information. This conglomerate of information is known as "the programming" that is being transmitted to the final user. The "programmers" are the people who decide which and what programs will be transmitted or broadcast to the final user. If you are the writer or producer of a "program" you want to sell your product to the "programmers" who, in turn, want to solicit money from the advertisers to help pay for the satellite used to broadcast or transmit the program to all end users.

    11. Re:Direct-to-user-programming? by sharkdba · · Score: 1

      Re:Direct-to-user-programming? (Score:2, Informative)

      ...Informative mod, please.

      Wow, it really works:
      "Ask, and you shall receive".

      OK, funny mod, please.

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  6. Newspeak by oexeo · · Score: 5, Informative
    Intelsat Americas-7 satellite experienced a sudden and unexpected electrical distribution anomaly

    Newspeak for power failure?

    1. Re:Newspeak by erlando · · Score: 3, Informative
      More like "short circuit"..

      Something went POOF

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    2. Re:Newspeak by CarbonJackson · · Score: 5, Funny

      Naw, newspeak for "hit by a Russian sattelite based laser." More importantly, who cares? As long as it doesn't affect my porn downloads.

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    3. Re:Newspeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      More like secret government test of anti-satellite technology.

    4. Re:Newspeak by DarthWiggle · · Score: 1

      Flaming space sharks! with lasers!

      (and ninjas)

      *claps*

      PS. That pop culture reference referred to the, um, space combat, not the porn. One can't be too careful in 2004, you know...

    5. Re:Newspeak by EvilTwinSkippy · · Score: 1

      I've always wondered if there were expected electrical anomalies. Come one folks, an anomaly is unexpected. Otherwise it would be a phenominon, be it random, periodic, or chaotic.

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    6. Re:Newspeak by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      The SEDs (Smoke Emitting Diodes) were functioning properly, completing their transition to friodes. http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=smoke-emi tting%20diode

    7. Re:Newspeak by rts008 · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least it didn't "de-orbit"...wait...*looks out window*...

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    8. Re:Newspeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh my goodness, the satellite was part of the critical PORN BACKBONE that delivers raw porn content for encoding and that transfers porn over peer to peer networks, coast to coast! Now what are you going to do? WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO!?!?

    9. Re:Newspeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think I will go wack off...

    10. Re:Newspeak by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever had hardware that was in the process of dying but just kept on going? The first time, the anomaly is unexpected, later, that scary noise, that flashing/blinking/cracking is expected, because you know the device is on the way out.

      The first sneeze is unexpected, the following ones usually not.

  7. finders keepers ! by Maavin · · Score: 0

    right ?

    and... w00t ! (or not ?)

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  8. What does this mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    From the post, "It was used to provide digital programming in the Cable Zone, direct-to-user programming, and Internet and data applications to North/Central/South America." So what's the actual effect of this? Is their service loss? Or is there enough redundancy to cover?

    1. Re:What does this mean? by Paster+Of+Muppets · · Score: 5, Informative
      From the article:

      Intelsat has made alternative capacity available to most of its IA-7 customers, many of whom have already had their services restored.

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    2. Re:What does this mean? by vern · · Score: 5, Informative

      For some locations, i.e. Alaska, there are no other Ku band satellites in range. Ku is the band that the satellite internet providers use. For those remote folks who rely on satellite to get access, their only alternative may now be dial-up.

      See StarBand's note on the right-hand side of their page: "we are working to provide our customers with temporary dial-up service."

    3. Re:What does this mean? by c0bw3b · · Score: 2, Insightful

      well I work at Comcast, and most of our Pay Per View stuff seems to have been handled by this satellite. No idea if service has been restored yet...

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    4. Re:What does this mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tried to buy some food at the grocery store on Sunday but had to bail out 'cause their card terminals were offline.

      Turns out, they were using this bird for the card verification service.

      I heard the Nebraska lottery was taken offline as well; they were using this bird for the lottery terminals.

      Side note: I am starting to see a LOT of stores sporting DirecWay dishes these days, sometimes more than one per site. Small businesses like gas stations, fast food, etc are going nuts for data over satellite.

  9. Quote from "Lost in space" by dark-br · · Score: 1, Insightful


    Penny Robinson: Never love anything, kiddo, you will just end up losing it.

    I guess it goes for lost satellites too...

    1. Re:Quote from "Lost in space" by ch-chuck · · Score: 2, Interesting

      A shame Penny didn't know Tennyson:

      "I hold it true, whatever befall;
      I feel it, when I sorrow most;
      T'is better to have loved and lost
      Than never have loved at all"

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  10. Conspiracy Theory by ragnarok · · Score: 4, Funny

    Remember how the US Government was complaining about not being able to get enough satelite bandwidth over war zones? Sounds like they just fixed that problem!

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  11. Lost Satellite? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Have they tried looking down the back of the sofa?

  12. In Other News ... by TheUncleBob · · Score: 5, Funny

    Earlier today, the Pentagon announced the first succesful test of their new EMP 'starwars' defence shield.

  13. Obviously..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's been taken out by a bathtub sized slab of copper........

    probably

    1. Re:Obviously..... by Burb · · Score: 1
      Or a sperm whale and a bowl of petunias

      Oh no, not again

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  14. Re:BREAKING NEWS by Maavin · · Score: 1

    yeah, like I said before...

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  15. do they need any volunteers? by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    I want to be the first Cable Guy in space!

  16. E.T. Sitcoms and Dramas by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 4, Funny

    That would explain the weird programming I've been recieving. I thought these were just Star Trek re-runs I never saw.

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  17. It was Santa :D by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was Santa, he is doing some training runs for coming december 25th/etc and accidentally ran over the satellite.

    Poor Rudolph hit his nose on it, it will be red for about a month.

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    1. Re:It was Santa :D by oexeo · · Score: 1, Funny

      Someone needs to explain a few things to Killjoy_NL, his parents obviously didn't.

    2. Re:It was Santa :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      does Santa qualify as a terrorist?

    3. Re:It was Santa :D by CmdrGravy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shit yeah, the dumb f*ck - how the hell does he think the Reindeer can breathe in space, just because they can fly doesn't mean they have some sort of magic powers or specially tailored spacesuits.

    4. Re:It was Santa :D by oexeo · · Score: 5, Funny

      > does Santa qualify as a terrorist?

      He has a long white beard, so yes

    5. Re:It was Santa :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor Rudolph hit his nose on it, it will be red for about a month.

      Longer, probably.

    6. Re:It was Santa :D by kubrick · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, have you ever seen Santa Claus and Osama bin Laden together in the same room?

      I rest my case. :)

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    7. Re:It was Santa :D by kin_korn_karn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Nowadays, who doesn't?

    8. Re:It was Santa :D by CmdrGravy · · Score: 1

      Are you saying that Osama doesn't get any presents at Christmas ?

      I am disgusted that Santa obviously knows the location of all these enemies of peace but refuses to share that information with our intelligence services, on that basis he is definitely a supporter of terrorism and steps should be taken accordingly...

    9. Re:It was Santa :D by Frogg · · Score: 1

      they just hold their breath -- at least, that's what my mother told me some years ago...

    10. Re:It was Santa :D by Ced_Ex · · Score: 1

      I don't know why no one else has thought of this, but since NORAD tracks Santa every Christmas eve, why don't they just wait till he drops presents off and then follow him?

      Or, we could bride Santa to replace lumps of coal with lumps of C4 with a remote detonator.

      Sheesh... IF I were President, things would be different 'round here!

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    11. Re:It was Santa :D by I+don't+want+to+spen · · Score: 1

      Aah, so that explains this site then!

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    12. Re:It was Santa :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      I heard just last night that Santa and the reindeer(s?) are progeny of some mushroom:
      amanita muscaria
      1. red cap with white spots.
      2. hallucinogen
      3. reindeer really do eat it.


      Since I was eight,
      that's as close as I've come to the truth!
  18. More info by wikinerd · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can read more info about this here

  19. What do you do? by FireFury03 · · Score: 5, Interesting


    What exactly do you do if you're running satellite services and the satellite dies? As far as I can see, you either have to get a replacement up pretty damned quickly or you have to go reposition everyone's dishes so you can use another sat. Or are there already other satellites close enough to be able to use without moving dishes?

    (How close do sats have to be if you want to avoid moving dishes?)

    I imagine losing a satellite would be quite a big deal for satellite TV companies, etc who have all their services routed through a single satellite - talk about all your eggs in one basket.

    1. Re:What do you do? by bakkajin · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm sure that it won't be a huge deal. Our recievers have about 20 satellites programmed in them. I'm sure better/bigger stations or cable companies have more options.

      The station that I work at doesn't use IA7. Now if Intelsat 5/6 or Galaxy 4 dies, then we might have a problem.

    2. Re:What do you do? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I see you're new here...

    3. Re:What do you do? by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      Read The Fucking Article, loser.

      I did and it doesn't answer the questions I just asked - just says they moved most of the traffic to another sat, never said anything about the problems.

    4. Re:What do you do? by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      I'm sure that it won't be a huge deal. Our recievers have about 20 satellites programmed in them. I'm sure better/bigger stations or cable companies have more options.

      But most home-users don't have motorised dishes, so my question still stands - if you're serving home users and the sat goes down, is there actually a sat close enough to take the load without having to reposition everyone's dishes?

    5. Re:What do you do? by maxume · · Score: 4, Informative

      People without motorised dishes are mostly on DirectTV or Dish Network. The dish networks setup that we have here is pointed at two or more satellites. I'm not sure about the mechanics of it, but I am pretty sure it recieves 3 or 4 satellites. They would probably still have some major issues if they lost a satellite, probably with ppv and stuff like that, but who knows. They would certainly be able to provide at least some limited amount of service.

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    6. Re:What do you do? by xyzzy · · Score: 2, Informative

      No -- the satellites would probably have to be less than 1 degree apart. DirecTV does this, I believe, for normal operations, but IA7 is not a "managed" service like DirecTV. An earlier link mentions that the alternative satellite is about 25 degrees apart, so not only would you have to repoint your dish, you'd have to reset all the transponders/frequencies in your receiver, since those would have changed as well.

    7. Re:What do you do? by FireFury03 · · Score: 1

      I know my Sky Digital dish is pointed at Astra (28.2 degrees East) - are there other sats in the area to replace it if it dies without warning?

    8. Re:What do you do? by Detritus · · Score: 4, Informative

      From past failures of geosynchronous communications satellites, there appear to be several classes of users. The people who pay the most, get guaranteed service and are quickly switched to a transponder on another satellite. The people who pay the least, lose their service and have to find another satellite, if any, that has unused capacity.

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    9. Re:What do you do? by maxume · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I really don't know. Check out http://www.lyngsat.com/ for more information about the various communications satellites and what they are carrying.

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    10. Re:What do you do? by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 2, Interesting

      It would be stupid to route everything through one satellite.

      A satellite book I have says that one company had seven satellites in one stationing area, in a region of space about seventy five miles cubed.

      I imagine if one goes down, another can fill the need.

    11. Re:What do you do? by pe1rxq · · Score: 1

      The first Astra satelites were at 19 degrees east, there were several on satelites close to eachother so you could receive them with one dish.
      At 37000KM you can move around a lot without having to adjust a 60cm dish on earth.

      Don't know how many they have at 28.2East but I think there are several there to (or atleast planned)

      Jeroen

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    12. Re:What do you do? by gmuslera · · Score: 1
      Hey, great site. Just when i was worrying if in Uruguay in particular would be affected by this particular satellite problems (well, writing this on slashdot so probably my internet connection is still running :), when i entered there detected my country and listed all the satellites that have something to do with it.

      Most of the reports linked here seems to talk about "part of south america", but till read that site, wasnt completelly sure what countries were involved there.

    13. Re:What do you do? by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      > People without motorised dishes are mostly on DirectTV or Dish Network. The dish networks setup that we have here is pointed at two or more satellites. I'm not sure about the mechanics of it, but I am pretty sure it recieves 3 or 4 satellites.

      I realize this specific case involves IA7, which had the Americas covered, so in this very specific case, only looking at IA7 customers, you might be right, but I very seriously doubt that the majority of people on this planet that watch satelite tv using their own dish have directv or such. Directv aims at some 5% of the worlds population, and dishnetwork? heh, same story.

      Then, many people, even in the USA, use a dish to receive programming that does not originate in the USA and is not carried by American networks usually, think about imigrants who want to watch a satelite channel from their country of origin etc.

      So.. I think you are wrong in saying that most private people would be watching directv or dishnetwork.

    14. Re:What do you do? by Kehvarl · · Score: 0

      So.. I think you are wrong in saying that most private people would be watching directv or dishnetwork. You're right that analog dishes are more common, but the post you're replying yo specified non-motorized dishes, which tend to be those small directTV and dishnetwork people. people with motorized dishes can just use another satelite.

    15. Re:What do you do? by SillyNickName4me · · Score: 1

      > You're right that analog dishes are more common, but the post you're replying yo specified non-motorized dishes

      Uh..

      There are many people here in Europe that have non motorized dishes and no directv or similar service, and you will fidn the same thing everywhere on the planet outside the USA.

      So no, I was not even talkign about analog satelite tv and motorized dishes, I was talkign that from all the non motorized dishes used for receiving digital satelite tv, a fraction is used for directv and similar, but with their total market covering at best 5% of the world's population, it is really a small part of the whole.

    16. Re:What do you do? by james_shoemaker · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually both Dish and DTV have satellites in orbit that they aren't using that they referr to as in-orbit spares. To allow for just such an emergency.

    17. Re:What do you do? by rockmanac · · Score: 1

      The station that I work at doesn't use IA7. Now if Intelsat 5/6 or Galaxy 4 dies, then we might have a problem.

      Same here... I think we'd lose 95% of our syndicated programing if IA-6, IA-5 or Galaxy 4 bit the dust. Thank God network comes down on another "bird" (and there's a back-up on yet another one).

      -A

    18. Re:What do you do? by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1
      I'm wondering what happens to that orbital slot.

      I'm not a satellite expert, but I know that there are 72 geostationary orbital slots for satellites (360 degrees / 5 degrees of separation = 72 slots).

      If there's a dead satellite sitting in that slot, do they shoot it out of the way or do they wait until the orbit degrades and let the satellite turn into a shooting star when it re-enters the atmosphere? The slots over N. America (USA in particular) are pretty valuable.

    19. Re:What do you do? by Carnildo · · Score: 1

      Since it's dead, you can put another satellite in the same slot with no problems -- five degrees works out to about 3000 miles of separation. There's plenty of room to put up a new bird with no chance of collision.

      Waiting for the orbit of a geosync satellite to decay is pointless -- at that altitude, orbits are stable for potentially millions of years.

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    20. Re:What do you do? by tylernt · · Score: 1

      "(How close do sats have to be if you want to avoid moving dishes?)"

      If we are talking about the older C-band and Ku-band consumer satellite dishes that are ~10 feet in diameter, they are almost all motorized and you can only receive one satellite without moving the dish. Each C-band satellite broadcasts (if I remember correctly) 24 channels, the odd numbered having horizontal and the even numbered channels being vertically polarized (maybe I got those backwards).

      This polarization made changing channels interesting. If you jumped from odd-numbered to odd-numbered channel (or stayed on the evens), the channels changed quickly. Stepping up or down through odd-even-odd-even was slower because the feedhorn had to repolarize for each channel. Took an extra second or so.

      Changing satellites was even slower. There were over a dozen satellites, and moving the dish from one end of the arc to the other took about 30 seconds. We still have VCR tapes that where the VCR started recording (on a timer), and then the satellite receiver came on and repositioned the dish, recording on the tape a snow-random channel-snow-random channel effect as the dish passed intermediary satellites.

      This is all going by memory when I lived at home and my parents had an Echostar receiver and a 10-foot dish in the backyad, long before the current rage of offset 18-inch fixed dishes. Probably 1990-1995ish. So I might have some details wrong, sorry.

      Those big dishes have one advantage over the little guys, though. Feeds. You could watch some poor reporter stand in the rain, pick their nose, whatever for half an hour before s/he went live for their report. Sometimes boring but sometimes entertaining... better than the crap they broadcast on the little dishes these days, anyway.

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    21. Re:What do you do? by myov · · Score: 1

      People without motorised dishes are mostly on DirectTV or Dish Network

      Nope. The only motorized dishes are ones that contact different satellites. (I'd guess mostly TV/private downlinks)

      Fixed-link dishes always hit the same place, so there's no reason for them to move. In fact, they better not move or you're losing the signal.

      There are a lot more data dishes than you would think, and they're fixed from my experience. GM, for example, runs their dealer network over sat (since they own Hughes), but I've always had to look really hard for the dish at the dealership.

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    22. Re:What do you do? by myom · · Score: 1

      I don't think the danger (primarily) lies in the collision risk, but in problems associated with too little separation between satellites using the same frequency band. AfaIk they don't need to be exactly the same frequency to disturb too adjacent signals.

  20. Oh my god, no tv! by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Fortunatly they will be rebroadcasting the entire 16 days worthwhile programming once the new satellite is online. The transmission is expected to take approximatly 131 seconds.

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    1. Re:Oh my god, no tv! by rts008 · · Score: 1

      Yes, you are correct. And the breakdown of time is as follows: programs/shows=2.1 seconds; commercials=100 seconds ; Weekly emergency broadcast test=28.9 seconds.

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  21. First Strike by CmdrGravy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Damn, satellites being taken out, earthquakes in Japan and dolphins committing mass suicide in Australia.

    The facts all point to this being either the second coming or an alien invasion. I cannot believe no one is doing anything about this, the psychic viewing community have been warning about exactly this kind of disaster for weeks now and the Church has known about it for even longer. Why are they covering this up ?

    Wait, I am picking up their carrier waves on the plate in my head, they say they will ban TV, Gays and Fornication but offer us all the opportunity of at least 4 fully accredited abductions per family and provide live reconstructions of the of the Raputure. They have big eyes, funny shaped heads but big hands and huge crosses and we should welcome them.

    1. Re:First Strike by Snart+Barfunz · · Score: 0

      Given the kind of people who tend to be abducted by aliens or who anticipate the rapture, I say, "Yay apocalypse - bring it on!"

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    2. Re:First Strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's a grasshopper plague in North Africa, too...

    3. Re:First Strike by Linker3000 · · Score: 1

      OK, OK, OK - but do they run Linux?

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    4. Re:First Strike by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Damn, satellites being taken out, earthquakes in Japan and dolphins committing mass suicide in Australia."

      None of those are too uncommon. NASA has its metric-conversion and up-down issues, there are at least three earthquakes every day in Japan, and around this time every year we're hip deep in dead dolphins down here.

  22. Re:BREAKING NEWS by sploo22 · · Score: 1

    Not redundant, since the previous post is being modded into oblivion. I got a kick out of this, and it only takes 10 seconds of anyone's time if they pay attention to it at all.

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  23. Re:BREAKING NEWS by oexeo · · Score: 1

    why the hell haven't SCO fixed it yet, haven't they noticed?

  24. Re:BREAKING NEWS by AvitarX · · Score: 1

    I like it, very subtle.

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  25. Re:BREAKING NEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL
    "We own all your code, pay us all your money"
    www.sco.com

  26. That's what happened by koi88 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Major West: It's still working.
    John Robinson: What?
    Major West: The hyperdrive. If we can't go around the Sun, then we go straight through it, using your hyperdrive.
    John Robinson: But, without a hypergate, the exit vector's random. There's no telling where we'd come out.

    Only this time they hit the sun. Poor Robinsons.
    Source: http://imdb.com/title/tt0120738/quotes

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  27. Dubya is sure there is Iran behind it by wannabgeek · · Score: 2, Funny

    And CIA has enough intelligence(?) to confirm it.

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  28. the reward ! by phreakv6 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "The Intelsat-7 was reported lost today."

    finders keepers

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  29. Re:BREAKING NEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    sssh, don't spoil it for those who haven't read it yet.

  30. Yet more spacejunk floating about by Viol8 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Great , another few tons of space junk floating about in the geostationary orbit. Whats worse is that if they've completely lost contact with the satellite then they won't even be able to shove it into a parking orbit like they do with old decommisioned ones. It'll just drift about in the main orbital zone and could possibly one day collide with a working satellite. AT the very least it means that spot in the orbit is out of bounds for other satellites now.

    1. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's big enough that the Air Force can track it on radar and keep it in their catalog of orbiting space junk. If there is a danger of a collision, they can send a warning to the owner of the other satellite so they can take evasive action.

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    2. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      USAF tracks things in LOW Earth Orbit, not geosync. That's 22K miles out. NASA,the USAF and the industry know where they are supposed to be but I don't think they track the day to day actual position.

    3. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by NardofDoom · · Score: 1

      Detritus commenting on orbiting space junk? Too bad we can't mod this +1 Ironic.

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    4. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by sunking2 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Oh please, it's not like it started zooming around in random directions. It's in exactly the same place it was before, it's just useless now. And besides, there's plenty of room up there. The chances of a plane falling on your head when you go outside is greater than this thing suddeny reaking havoc in the heavens.

    5. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Uhm ... nope.
      Geostationary satellites perform active stationkeeping ... both north/south and east/west. They do station keeping burns about every 2-4 weeks on average to keep it within their 0.5 degree longitudinal slot.

      Solar raditation pressure, 3rd body perturbations (mostly the moon) and the irregular shape of the earth all perturb the orbit. So if they've lost everything on this bird ... not just the payload ... then it will drift through the belt and eventually settle about one of 2 stable points. The inclination will also increase to about 15 degrees.

    6. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      umm, aren't the Instelsats in the Clarke belt i.e 27000 miles out in a geostationary orbit ?

      Might take a while for this baby to drift down...

    7. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They track the geo stuff, but they only look for potential collisions with their own birds. Other operators are on their own. And the data published for public consumption (Two Line Element Sets ... ie. GP data) has very marginal utility for collision avoidance ... it just isn't accurate enough or timely enough and doesn't have covariance data associated with it which is critical for this kind of analysis.

    8. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nope ... they track geo as well. Take a look at the NASA OIG site for the public catalog (http://oig1.gsfc.nasa.gov/)

    9. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by stuktongue · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Sorry, mods, but the parent post should not be moderated insightful (no offense to the poster). Proximity problems are not uncommon at all in the more densely populated areas of the geo belt. The USAF, for one, must routinely expend significant effort monitoring their fleet and coordinating with other agencies to ensure collisions do not occur. This is a real potential problem.

    10. Re:Yet more spacejunk floating about by Caseyscrib · · Score: 1
  31. Sigh ... by farnerup · · Score: 1

    Cue Klingon target practice jokes ...

    1. Re:Sigh ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      KAPLAH !

  32. I was wondering... by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    I was wondering what that thing on my sidewalk was. Now I know.

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    1. Re:I was wondering... by oexeo · · Score: 1

      > I was wondering what that thing on my sidewalk was. Now I know.

      Is that you, Truman?

  33. Re:BREAKING NEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That is absolutely fucking hilarious.

  34. Is this related to Starband's outage? by antdude · · Score: 4, Informative

    This ComputerWeekly's article says there was a failure of a communications satellite over the weekend that knocked out US broadband services supplied by StarBand Communications. The total loss of Intelsat's Americas-7 satelllite forced StarBand to move customers to a different satellite. StarBand did not say how many subscribers were affected, but is attempting to provide them with a temporary dial-up service.

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    1. Re:Is this related to Starband's outage? by vern · · Score: 4, Informative
      Is this related to Starband's outage?
      Most definitely. Starband can point some customers to their other satelite (was GE4, might be AMC4 now) but their remote customers in Alaska don't have any other options.
    2. Re:Is this related to Starband's outage? by Zorton · · Score: 1

      In alot of cases in Alaska Telestar 7 or IA-7 was the only bird you can hope to get a shot too. Starband's silly response of "get them onto dialup" dosen't make any sense when your phone service is provided via a amplified cell phone antenna.

      This isn't something any company would like to have happen. I would love to hear more details about it.

    3. Re:Is this related to Starband's outage? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, I thought some critter had chewed through the cables running to my dish. I was *not* looking forward to crawling around under the house to check it out. At least I know what the problem is now...

  35. ASAT weapons test by ghoul · · Score: 1

    So who tested the laser? I mean we know you are upset about the Western coup in Ukraine but you are not I repeat not supposed to test laser. (Now translate to Russian :))

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    1. Re:ASAT weapons test by and+by · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      ½ã Úâ ØáßëâÐÛ ÛÐ×Õà? Ï ØÜÕÕî Ò ÒØÔã, çâ Üë ×ÝÐÕÜ, çâ Òë àÐááàØÛØáì Ø×-×Ð ×ÐßÐÔÝÓ ßãâç ÝÐ ÃÚàÐØÝÕ, Ý Òë ÔÛÖÝë, ßÒâàïî, ÔÛÖÝë ÝÕ ØáßëâØÒÐâì ÛÐ×Õà.

    2. Re:ASAT weapons test by and+by · · Score: 1

      That came out munged. It should be in ISO 8859-5. Anyone know what would be the proper encoding for /. posts?

    3. Re:ASAT weapons test by Kehvarl · · Score: 0

      quadruple Rot-13 is the standard encoding scheme around these parts.

  36. well by northcat · · Score: 1

    anyone wanna guess what the next userfriendly comic strip is going to be about?

  37. Anti-Satellite Warfare Test? by OwlWhacker · · Score: 1

    Perhaps it's a test for Anti-Satellite Warfare.

    1. Re:Anti-Satellite Warfare Test? by GigsVT · · Score: 1

      The satellite is way the hell out there. Warfare satellites will be low earth orbit, not way up there like intelsat.

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    2. Re:Anti-Satellite Warfare Test? by OwlWhacker · · Score: 1

      If a warefare satellite was hit, how do you think that everybody would react? It certainly wouldn't be a mere topic on Slashdot, that's for sure.

      If I were to test some anti-satellite weapon, I'd test it on some benign or crappy satellite.

  38. Wasnt this named in the Cryptomicon? by gad_zuki! · · Score: 1

    Intelsat7? Right?

  39. Waddya know... by Spacejock · · Score: 2, Funny

    The comet fired first...

  40. Look under the refrigerator by gelfling · · Score: 1

    That's where I usually find all the things I lose.

  41. Blame Canada by mordors9 · · Score: 3, Funny

    The government will do anything to keep Fox News from their air waves.

    1. Re:Blame Canada by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't exactly "blame" them...

    2. Re:Blame Canada by iantri · · Score: 1

      I know you are joking, of course, but I think it is important to point out for the less informed that the CRTC has approved Fox News. However, the deal with Global (Fox's Canadian Bitch) fell through.

  42. Communication disruption? by pfunkmallone · · Score: 1

    "A communication disruption can mean only one thing... Invasion" - Silo Bibble, Star Wars Episode I

    Uh oh...

  43. AK and North America by HatlessMan · · Score: 1, Funny

    Alaska is in the continental US, asshole.

    1. Re:AK and North America by conteXXt · · Score: 1

      funny that,

      I thought Canada was between AK and the continental US.

      Must be time for a new map.

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    2. Re:AK and North America by Doug+Lim · · Score: 1

      I think the word you're looking for is "contiguous". Alaska (except for the Alaskan islands) is in the "continental" US, but not in the "contiguous" US.

      http://www.alaska.com/about/facts/faq/plan/v-inc lu de/story/4834395p-4772751c.html

    3. Re:AK and North America by stuktongue · · Score: 1

      Funny.

      That said, maybe I'll be pointing out the obvious here, but the problem stems from the fact that, in satellite coverage terminology at least, CONUS, or continental United States, coverage refers to coverage of the lower 48 states; AK and HI are usually excluded. This is because the lower 48 fit into a nicely-shaped coverage area. AK and HI, if covered, must usually be covered by separate spot beams (unless there is global coverage covering everything).

    4. Re:AK and North America by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's an asshole? Boy, I'd hate to know what you consider people who don't use turn signals to be.

  44. Re:BREAKING NEWS by Fred+Or+Alive · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they're trying to work out why their password isn't 'password' anymore.

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  45. Was it insured ??? by zytheran · · Score: 1

    Puts on tin foil hat and spins propeller.
    "Intelsat already has plans to launch the IA-8 satellite, currently scheduled to occur on 17 December 2004."
    Gee, that was handy..

  46. For a little more tech detail by Sai+Babu · · Score: 2, Informative

    ABCNEWSABSAT

    Excerpt

    Intelsat has declared IA-7 "a total loss" according to Ramu Potarazu, the Chief Operating Officer for Intelsat. They are not giving any reason for the failure as of yet. At approx 0222 EST Sunday 11.28.04, they had an electrical short of some kind on Bus 1 and eight minutes later lost telemetry to the spacecraft according to Intelsat engineer Kevin Maloy. There were no station-keeping maneuvers being done at the time, Maloy said. IA-7 was located at 129 degrees West longitude.

    1. Re:For a little more tech detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      GOES 10 and GOES 12 also registered an anomoly at the same time. http://sec.noaa.gov/ftpdir/plots/satenv/20041128_s atenv.gif

  47. "Lost" ? by Exaton · · Score: 4, Interesting

    OK, so I only glanced at TFA, and I realise that Intelsat has to replace the lost functionality as quickly as they can... But I can't help being slightly suspicious about the timing with the launch of Intelsat-8...

    I mean, do satellite-launching companies have any obligations to bring an old satellite down cleanly and safely to avoid the accumulation of space junk ? If so, how much would such an operation cost ?

    Undoubtedly looks like I'm speaking from under a tin foil hat here, but I wonder how long in advance, before the "loss", the launch of Intelsat-8 had been planned for...

    1. Re:"Lost" ? by Coz · · Score: 5, Informative

      No company voluntarily "loses" a multi-million dollar functional asset. If it's still got functional transponders, they'll keep using it.

      As for your other point - when possible, close to end-of-life, they try to move geosync birds to a super-synchronous (above the geosync plane) orbit, which will eventually cause them to migrate to nodal points safely out of the way of the remaining commercial satellites. This is often accomplished by a thruster burn that exhausts the remaining fuel in the tanks (preventing later tank explosions after thermal control is lost). If the satellite fails before planned end-of-life (usually determined by available fuel or power), it will end up in a figure-8 orbit roughly centered on the equator, and will slowly drift East or West depending on whether it was low or high, causing collision-avoidance issues for the rest of the geostationary com birds out there.

      There's a lot of reference material out there - give it a read.

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    2. Re:"Lost" ? by blade8086 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      there's cost e.g. in lost revenue, but really, they just blast them off using the remaining fuel to a higher orbit.. so that is not too expensive to do. Not much else is done with them, they are just moved out of the geo[syncrhonous|stationary] orbit slots to eventually disentigrate on reentry when their orbit gets too out of whack.

      if a company is too sloppy about this, I suppose the ITU will not give them any new orbital slots, which would keep them out of business.. so yes, there are incentives.

    3. Re:"Lost" ? by getafix · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Funny that their insurance on the satellite went out last month (read that off one of the links).

      Hmmm... I see a huge tax write off in the making. Just speculatin'

    4. Re:"Lost" ? by DougWebb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I did an internship with GE Astrospace about 14 years ago, and the project I worked on was developing an accurate fuel gauge for satellites.

      They store fuel in spherical tanks which are pressurized with helium (to push the fuel against the sides), and which have ribs inside which guide the fuel towards the nozzle. You can't put any kind of mechanical device in there to measure how much fuel is left, and they definitely avoid having anything electronic in there.

      As a result, their only way of estimating how much fuel is remaining is to keep careful records of how long each jet burns during station-keeping, and an estimate of how much fuel is used for each burn. This estimate becomes less and less accurate over the life of the satellite, due to the measurement errors adding up and degredation in the jet performance.

      I was told that by the 'end' of a satellite's lifetime, they can still have enough fuel to last another year. Or they may be out of fuel. Either way, the company has to get the replacement up there before the old satellite runs out, which is an expensive and lengthy process. Most satellites get replaced when they still have 1-2 years of life left in them, which is a huge waste of resources. (Many millions of dollars.)

      Anyway, by the end of my internship, we were able to demonstrate a method of directly measuring the amount of fuel in the tanks at any point during the satellite's lifetime, with a much lower error than the record keeping approach. This would allow the satellite to be left in service much closer to it's true end of life. I don't know if the process ever got out of the experimental stage though; not long after I left, GE Astrospace was sold off to another company, and I'm pretty sure the engineering department got gutted.

    5. Re:"Lost" ? by antispam_ben · · Score: 1

      there's cost e.g. in lost revenue, but really, they just blast them off using the remaining fuel to a higher orbit.. so that is not too expensive to do. Not much else is done with them, they are just moved out of the geo[syncrhonous|stationary] orbit slots to eventually disentigrate on reentry when their orbit gets too out of whack.

      Hold on, if they send it to a HIGHER orbit, how does it ever get to re-entry? If I understand correctly, such high (geo, 22,000 miles high) orbits are 'stable' (at least don't deteriorate into lower orbits) for years, decades, or longer, unlke LEO (within a few hundred miles of the Earth's sutface) where thin atmopheric drag eventually deteriorates an orbit.

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    6. Re:"Lost" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A geosync satellite won't ever re-enter. Way to high. The orbit certainly perturbs.

    7. Re:"Lost" ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      it will end up in a figure-8 orbit roughly centered on the equator

      I know what you mean, but most /.'s won't.

      The ground trace described by the satellite will become (more of) a figure 8 ... the inclination will grow to about 17 degrees. But the orbit is still an ellipse with the earth ot one of the foci.

    8. Re:"Lost" ? by Da+Web+Guru · · Score: 1

      Hold on, if they send it to a HIGHER orbit, how does it ever get to re-entry?

      It doesn't. At least not very often. (It depends on how the last of the fuel is burned off.) It is usually moved far away enough to not affect any other satellites. The real clean-up process is left for future generations with more advanced space technology.

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  48. Re:BREAKING NEWS by oexeo · · Score: 1

    or maybe they just like the new slogan

  49. Re:Speaking of failures... by Hal_Porter · · Score: 1

    That's a pretty restrained piece of hacking, if it is hacking

    The Google cache has it too.

    http://www.google.de/search?q=cache:6NanirOL3o4J :w ww.sco.com/+&hl=en

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  50. Re:Speaking of failures... by jcostantino · · Score: 1
    I see the graphic too (8:30am eastern, they must still be asleep)

    Or maybe they just think it's an accurate statement?

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  51. Re:BREAKING NEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what is that chick writing on the wall... "hacked by [illegible]"?

    does that mean that the hacker is that chick, or that a hacker got his girlfriend to pose for a photo?

    if the latter, then that means there's at least one hacker with a girlfriend out there... hmmm

  52. Re:Speaking of failures... by nmg196 · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Google doesn't cache images, so how can google possibly "have it" when the hack is merely a modified image?

    Look at the properties of the image concerned. You'll see it's coming directly from sco.com and not from any google cache.

  53. The worst part. No Porn. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'm a sysadmin at a cable company, and I happened to be on call this weekend rather than the guy who knows a bit more about the receiver setup. Funny thing was that the helpdesk kept telling me to fix it no matter how many times I said "The bird has no power".

    There's a req on my bosses desk for a jetpack this morning.

    The WORST part about this was the loss of 3 mexican channels a a block of porn pay per view. The amount of lost revenue from the porn being out must be STAGGERING.

  54. yep it's gone.... by conteXXt · · Score: 2, Funny

    http://www.lyngsat.com/ia7.html

    Anyone know where the "Asia After Dark" channel went?

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  55. Re:Speaking of failures... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Corrent. In fact the HTTP timestamp information shows that the image was last modified "Nov 29 05:22:02 EST".

    1 HTTP/1.1 200 OK
    2 Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 13:37:53 GMT
    3 Server: Apache
    4 Last-Modified: Mon, 29 Nov 2004 10:22:02 GMT
    5 ETag: "726a60-4e19-41aaf84a"
    6 Accept-Ranges: bytes
    7 Content-Length: 19993
    8 Connection: close
    9 Content-Type: image/jpeg

  56. Independence Day by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, that must be because of the huge black saucer-shaped thing floating above Toronto today ... anybody else noticed it?

  57. Simpsons.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And my GOD HELP YOU if that thing carried the spice channel....

  58. Channels that were temporarily lost... by doormat · · Score: 3, Informative

    Include Spice, Playboy, and TEN.

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  59. Ooops, my bad. by Gilmoure · · Score: 3, Funny

    Got a new laser pointer and was trying to piss off someone near Antares. Doh!

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  60. Found it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Make a wish...

  61. Santa is not a terrorist! by camusflage · · Score: 1

    I thought everyone knew.. Santa is a communist. Jovial and caring in his outward appearance, he believes in giving away things, but only to those who follow his social code (ie, naughty vs nice). He's ever watchful, particularly of waking status (admittedly more of a fascist trait, but a necessity in any dictatorship). He has his loyal army of minions surrounding him. On top of all that, he has a RED military uniform that I've never seen him depicted in anything but.

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    1. Re:Santa is not a terrorist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...you do realize the red comes from a marketing campaign by Coca-Cola? the red and white? coke colors.

      look it up.

    2. Re:Santa is not a terrorist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahhhhhhh...Coke is communist then eh??

    3. Re:Santa is not a terrorist! by camusflage · · Score: 1

      Ahhhhhhh...Coke is communist then eh??
      Well duh! Coke is only one step removed from Soma..

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    4. Re:Santa is not a terrorist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Not true at all. Although Coke did help proliferate the image of Santa in general, his appearance was standardized long before Coca-Cola's advertising campaign.

      See Snopes for more.

  62. Elliptic orbits by BabyJaysus · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...wait long enough in the place that you lost it, and it will come back.

    1. Re:Elliptic orbits by EmagGeek · · Score: 1

      That may be true, but how long do you think it takes for an elliptic orbit around Earth to completely precess?

    2. Re:Elliptic orbits by BabyJaysus · · Score: 0

      Yes, yes, very good. But I think that the hardest part would be "staying still."

  63. Re:BREAKING NEWS by PriceIke · · Score: 1

    Dammit, they fixed it, just when I sent the email to my friends saying they should hurry up and check it out before it gets fixed. Bugger!

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  64. Lost and Found! by u-235-sentinel · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    I would check E-Bay.

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  65. Intelsat 7 broke.... by foxtrot · · Score: 4, Funny

    So they're gonna send up Intelsat 8?

    No respect. Did they even consider sending up AMDsat 1?

    -JDF

  66. In other news: Cheap satellite for sale on ebay by LemonFire · · Score: 2, Funny

    In other news: Cheap satellite for sale on ebay.
    May have some minor defects.
    No refund!!!

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    1. Re:In other news: Cheap satellite for sale on ebay by JabberWokky · · Score: 1
      Not all that implausible. When a company loses a bird, they are sometimes sell them for various uses or for salvage potential. In at least one case, the purchasing company managed to get a satellite that had been injected into orbit incorrectly back into a useful orbit, thus making a serious (but high risk) profit.

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  67. satelite by bb00rrgg_666 · · Score: 1

    who cares what agreement it breaks or doesnt, how the heck do you lose a satelite in space. i work for a cable company and when i heard about it saturday night, it was, how did we lose a satelite, or was it the signal. the reply was 'i don't know' , the customers reply was.........where the fsck is my tv @....back to back calls for 5 hours because of this.........you know we do have to listen to a lot of people complain........so tell me again, how do we lose a satelite?

  68. Two questions by anticypher · · Score: 1

    Just how powerful is your laser pointer?

    and

    Where can I get one?

    the AC

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  69. Time To Switch by DarkMantle · · Score: 1

    I say we start using AMDSat instead of Intel. Then it could have 64 Bit Support. =D

    (Laugh, it's funny)

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  70. Orbital Slots by bsd4me · · Score: 1

    It has been a long time since I have worked in satcomm, but I think that all countries allow 2 degree spacing for C-band now. I know the US has allowed it since the 80's. I'm not positive, but I think that some allow 0.5 degree spacing for Ku band in certain circumstances.

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  71. The Martian counterattack begins... by PierceLabs · · Score: 1

    Payback for leaving trash on the surface of the planet.

    1. Re:The Martian counterattack begins... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reports are comeing in form all over the world The earth is under attack a attack form mars!

  72. my fault by micromuncher · · Score: 1

    My dang Universal remote came up with some crap about orbits and thrusters... I thought it was a video game. Sorry guys.

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    1. Re:my fault by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Homer simpsons did it

  73. S.U.E.D.A by lildogie · · Score: 1

    "Sudden and Unexpected Electrical Distribution Anomaly."

    Reminds me of "uncontrolled flight into terrain," (the official designation for an airplane crash).

  74. Dr. Smith by bozojoe · · Score: 1

    Has anyone asked Dr Smith or Robby? I bet dollars to donuts that the good(not) Doctor had something to do with its disappearance.

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  75. Lost sattelite? That's Unpossible!!!11!!one! by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

    First of all, find your shift key.

    Second, there is a funny concept about manufactured goods: they break.

    They didn't where-did-it-go-we-can't-find-it lose it, they it's-a-total-loss-because-the-batteries-exploded lost it.

    Subtle difference, but effective.

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  76. AMDsat by jeephistorian · · Score: 1

    They would send one up, but it would only carry four channels....although the four channels would be more interesting, higher quality, and have less commercials.

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  77. net by torrents · · Score: 1

    hope it doesn't affect my satellite inter

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  78. It's freaking out the state of Nebraska. by Woojay · · Score: 1

    Intelsat 7 managed to knock out the Powerball communication in Nebraska. W/ the jackpot at about 127 million dollars, it's really hurting the potential ticket buyers' odds which already has approached near zero long ago. Omaha World Herald article details this unthinkable situation for those poor folks.

  79. failover by satyahoo · · Score: 1

    Can some please enlighten me about ViaSAT's infrastructure and network design/topology WITH RESPECT TO REDUNDANCY? I am interested in knowing what the backup plan was if and when IA-7 was no longer in the picture.