I (the parent of this messy thread) agree with you!
But I don't think I have a right to steal your discovery because I want to use it and can't come up with it on my own, either! -- supposing you did not like me, and did not want to share it (or sell it...).
Funny, we all talk about free as in speech, free as in beer, but never about the freedom to survive. This is
not a freedom that is given, this is typically the freedom you take, and surprise - if you don't take it, you die.
I think that you are inferring that survival is a "right" as opposed to a "freedom" -- or at least in the way I use those terms. If I am correct in my assumption of your meaning, then I must disagree. Survival is not a right. You have no right to live -- only the right to be free from being harmed by others. If I push you in the water, then I am an attempted murderer and deserve to be harshly punished. If I see you're in the water and I deign not to risk my life to save you, I may be unkind, but I am not infringing your rights, either. Likewise, you have no right to have your brother or your government point a gun at me and force me to risk my life to save you.
The day you get cancer or another serious illness, and will not be able to pay the medication you will also
don't care about the pharma's funding IP law, you will want to live.
I sure will! But again, I have no right to expect someone to help me. As I stated in another post, I do not have a right to something just because I need it. I need money to get my pickup truck fixed. Will you give it to me? I need my truck! I demand your money! I have a right to your money -- you don't need it as much as I do! Do you see how foolish that is?
And yes, your last point is correct. I think everyone is responsible for their own actions. If I do something that kills me, then it is nobody's fault but my own, now is it? If it is my lifestyle to jump out of the tops of trees, are you going to pay my medical bills for me? Because I am hurt and have a right to your money?
Since your unlikely to read anything that is critical of your views[. ..]
Why do you think that?
And I've read it before. You might notice that the first sentence under the first heading of that document reads: The status of intellectual property rights (copyrights, patents, and the like) is an issue that has long divided libertarians.
If you lived in a population where aids is of epidemic proportions but it costs so much to get vaccinated what would you do? Die so another company can profit?
For one thing, assuming I get to keep my personality and personal habits in your hypothetical transplantation, I would be in no more danger of getting AIDS in Brazil than I am here in Virginia.
For another thing, there is no HIV vaccine. And I think the person who invents it deserves to be richer that Bill Gates.
Sure the government should have licensed the medication, but on the other hand, the profiteering and money
grubbing developers should have provided for brazil long before they needed to make this stance.
Your first point is correct. Rather, the Brazillian Government is the only party responsible for the Brazillian people. Your second point misses mine completely. Just because I need something does not mean that I am entitled to it. I cannot steal bread because I am hungry -- I cannot steal medicine because I am sick. Is this because I am not Brazillian? Or that my hunger and sickness are not as important as Brazillian hunger and sickness?
Its ironic how we think IP in technology is different then IP in medicine. Why is it right for people to patent
vacinations that could save your life, but it isn't right for someone to patent an interface that has no position
of life or death?
I think you are inferring that I feel the same way about software patents. I don't really have a clear opinion on that, for other reasons, that are off topic and not worth discussing here. We've heard them all before anyway.
This should make sick every one of you that has a Free* bone in their body. Drugs are inventions, as much as gadgets are inventions, and this is IP theft, plain and simple. If I spent a fortune researching and creating a drug, you bet I would be pissed if someone else started making my drug without my permission.
I like the idea of saving people, and it would be hard to sanction or punish Brazil for doing this -- since the rest of the world would boo us off the planet. But this is wrong, people. Hell, in the long run, education will save a lot more people than this drug. This drug will not make Brazillians stop fucking each other or sharing needles or whatever it is that Brazillians do to get AIDS.
But instead of educating and changing killer lifestyle habits, their government steals IP. This world is going to shit. But that's just MHO.
And to be off topic for a second, those moderators who disagree with me may feel free to moderate me down as a troll for having an opinion (since that's what happened the last time I posted) -- but that won't make me less right.;)
-Omar
*as in Libertarian free, not social-welfare-state free. >;)
...from hijacking someone else's copyrighted site? Hasn't this sort of thing come up before, from typo-appelated sites that mirror their properly spelled counterparts adding banner ads, or redirecting walmartblows.com to walmart's actual website?
Sounds like the same issue--copyright infringement (suggesting that site X sponsors/is associated with Microsoft), etc.
Oh yeah? Well, you should all run VAXBB. It's slow, it's ugly, it only has like four features, and can be installed by a retarded marmoset*. Best of all -- no pesky graphics!;)
Good work, dedicated coders.
-Omar
*As long as said marmoset is using UNIX Apache, that is...
I "only" work around 45 hours per week, but some weeks this I work closer to 50. My biggest gripe is, paradoxically, my relative importance inside my company. For example, I took last Friday off for my birthday, and I ended up working about six hours on stuff that nobody else knows how to work on.
I have not had a consecutive week off since 1995 (I was still a student, and was studying abroad). And, until my medium-sized company grows enough to hire and internal IT staff greater than two (me and the database guy, and neither of us know a damn thing about what the other does), I can count out more than a token day off here or there for the near future.
If I get the same kind of review this year as I did last year (that would be "none"), you can count on Omar sending resumes out pronto.
I have a fellow that works for me named H.C. Phillips. One day when we had an ISDN user down, I told him that if we couldn't get it fixed he would have to write down all their packets and drive them back to the shop for input.
In this case lies one of the original copies of Altair BASIC. It is one of the very first Microsoft products. This is an original, not a copy made by some dirty hippie hacker in a computer club. I'll get you thieving bastards if it's the last thing I do! When I am Emperor, you'll be first up against the wall! Bide your time, filty commie code stealers! AHAHAHAHA!
"RF," my dad said once, "Is funny stuff." The last two years of installing Orinoco/WaveLan have taught me to never doubt the wisdom of that statement. Some sites with decent Line of Sight can't get signal for anything in the world... other sites that can't even see the other side -- let alone factors like obstructions in the fresnel zone -- do fine. Sometimes reflections help, sometimes they hurt. Some days it works, some days the link goes down every time a bird flies by. It's gotten so it's almost an instinct thing -- "This install feels good." Funny stuff.
As a side note, it's gotten me on some interesting rooftops. The most memorable was a mental institution in southern VA. They didn't keep me, so I guess it turned out okay...
The problem is just as Ashcroft points out, though it's not his point. Most of these middle class kids have never touched or seen a gun other than, perhaps, their fathers pointing their personal firearms out to them and saying "never touch these, they're dangerous." Instead of learning about guns from their parents, these kids are learning about guns from video games. I've yet to see a video game based on "shoot the rapist coming in the window because he thinks your wife is in the house alone." Guns aren't used for defense purposes in video games -- they're used for offense purposes. So, one grows up with the impression that guns are used to win something, rather than what they should be used for -- hunting, or to use in a life-or-death defense situation. These kids are not suffering, as a following poster asserts, from "gun culture." These kids have never been exposed to "gun culture." They are being exposed to guns alone, and then make bad decisions because they have no substatial parental guidence in reference to that firearm or, I fear, anything else in their lives.
How simple is it to break?
Record it in analog, people, and re-mp3 it! Maybe Superman and your dog will be able to tell the difference, but I'll bet you won't, once you set whatever software you're using to the right levels. Geez. I have no fear whatsoever of this crap. Copy protection was a pain in the ass for Apple ][ games, but then, you couldn't play them out of a speaker.
I may be a nostalgic traditionalist, or I might just be a crazy fool, but I would just be depressed if I couldn't have my root account. It would suck! I WANT my special prompt. I WANT to be able to type "su -" and gain magical superpowers.
They'll pry my root account from my cold, dead passwd.
No. But to those people who have true faith that the world is five thousand some-odd years old and that the dinosaurs are a hoax, it means nothing. It's just injurious blather from some missionary from that religion of science to which so many of us subscribe.:)
YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
My guess is: 2001:03:15 12:00:00.
Beware the Ides of March.
Also... I'd like to take ithis moment to meditate on the possibly deadly repurcussions of combining a) the home-video news-coverage craze, and b) A space station-cum-meteor-cum-meteorite.;)
-Omar@I fall to pices (da da da) each time I enter your atmosphere...
Maybe because he and the other sysadmins were too busy upgrading Salon's version of BIND after a CERN advisory of a major security weakness.
I wonder what that CERN advisory said about BIND... Is it unstable? Will it decompose into a more stable program? What about radiation? Are billions of neutrinos, sparticles, and hadrons bombarding me right now? There's only a thin, wooden clost door in between me and the name server! Will I get super DNS powers? This is exciting!
I should also point out to those unfamiliar with WaveLan that I mean encryption beyond the "WEP" ("Without Extant Protection";) ) that's available on the standard bronze cards. There are two encryption "levels," silver and gold, which use more daunting encryption methods. Unfortunately, they also cost more money--a separate and unfortunate issue that I will not address here.:)
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But I don't think I have a right to steal your discovery because I want to use it and can't come up with it on my own, either! -- supposing you did not like me, and did not want to share it (or sell it...).
-Omar
I think that you are inferring that survival is a "right" as opposed to a "freedom" -- or at least in the way I use those terms. If I am correct in my assumption of your meaning, then I must disagree. Survival is not a right. You have no right to live -- only the right to be free from being harmed by others. If I push you in the water, then I am an attempted murderer and deserve to be harshly punished. If I see you're in the water and I deign not to risk my life to save you, I may be unkind, but I am not infringing your rights, either. Likewise, you have no right to have your brother or your government point a gun at me and force me to risk my life to save you.
The day you get cancer or another serious illness, and will not be able to pay the medication you will also don't care about the pharma's funding IP law, you will want to live.
I sure will! But again, I have no right to expect someone to help me. As I stated in another post, I do not have a right to something just because I need it. I need money to get my pickup truck fixed. Will you give it to me? I need my truck! I demand your money! I have a right to your money -- you don't need it as much as I do! Do you see how foolish that is?
And yes, your last point is correct. I think everyone is responsible for their own actions. If I do something that kills me, then it is nobody's fault but my own, now is it? If it is my lifestyle to jump out of the tops of trees, are you going to pay my medical bills for me? Because I am hurt and have a right to your money?
-Omar
Why do you think that?
And I've read it before. You might notice that the first sentence under the first heading of that document reads: The status of intellectual property rights (copyrights, patents, and the like) is an issue that has long divided libertarians.
-Omar
For one thing, assuming I get to keep my personality and personal habits in your hypothetical transplantation, I would be in no more danger of getting AIDS in Brazil than I am here in Virginia.
For another thing, there is no HIV vaccine. And I think the person who invents it deserves to be richer that Bill Gates.
Sure the government should have licensed the medication, but on the other hand, the profiteering and money grubbing developers should have provided for brazil long before they needed to make this stance.
Your first point is correct. Rather, the Brazillian Government is the only party responsible for the Brazillian people. Your second point misses mine completely. Just because I need something does not mean that I am entitled to it. I cannot steal bread because I am hungry -- I cannot steal medicine because I am sick. Is this because I am not Brazillian? Or that my hunger and sickness are not as important as Brazillian hunger and sickness?
Its ironic how we think IP in technology is different then IP in medicine. Why is it right for people to patent vacinations that could save your life, but it isn't right for someone to patent an interface that has no position of life or death?
I think you are inferring that I feel the same way about software patents. I don't really have a clear opinion on that, for other reasons, that are off topic and not worth discussing here. We've heard them all before anyway.
-Omar
I like the idea of saving people, and it would be hard to sanction or punish Brazil for doing this -- since the rest of the world would boo us off the planet. But this is wrong, people. Hell, in the long run, education will save a lot more people than this drug. This drug will not make Brazillians stop fucking each other or sharing needles or whatever it is that Brazillians do to get AIDS.
But instead of educating and changing killer lifestyle habits, their government steals IP. This world is going to shit. But that's just MHO.
And to be off topic for a second, those moderators who disagree with me may feel free to moderate me down as a troll for having an opinion (since that's what happened the last time I posted) -- but that won't make me less right. ;)
-Omar
*as in Libertarian free, not social-welfare-state free. >;)
Sounds like the same issue--copyright infringement (suggesting that site X sponsors/is associated with Microsoft), etc.
-Omar
Slashdot me! DO IT!!! ;)
-Omar
Good work, dedicated coders.
-Omar
*As long as said marmoset is using UNIX Apache, that is...
-Omar
I have not had a consecutive week off since 1995 (I was still a student, and was studying abroad). And, until my medium-sized company grows enough to hire and internal IT staff greater than two (me and the database guy, and neither of us know a damn thing about what the other does), I can count out more than a token day off here or there for the near future.
If I get the same kind of review this year as I did last year (that would be "none"), you can count on Omar sending resumes out pronto.
Every night and day,
-Omar
We called it "HCP/IP."
-Omar
Do not lean on case.
-Omar
As a side note, it's gotten me on some interesting rooftops. The most memorable was a mental institution in southern VA. They didn't keep me, so I guess it turned out okay...
-Omar
-Omar
-Omar
Just enough to hang yourself with you mean? ;)
-Omar
-Omar
-Omar
They'll pry my root account from my cold, dead passwd.
--Omar
-Omar
Beware the Ides of March.
Also... I'd like to take ithis moment to meditate on the possibly deadly repurcussions of combining a) the home-video news-coverage craze, and b) A space station-cum-meteor-cum-meteorite. ;)
-Omar@I fall to pices (da da da) each time I enter your atmosphere...
No, wait, don't sue me! ;)
-Omar
(or SwiSH
or SwaSH
or...
)
- Maybe because he and the other sysadmins were too busy upgrading Salon's version of BIND after a CERN advisory of a major security weakness.
I wonder what that CERN advisory said about BIND... Is it unstable? Will it decompose into a more stable program? What about radiation? Are billions of neutrinos, sparticles, and hadrons bombarding me right now? There's only a thin, wooden clost door in between me and the name server! Will I get super DNS powers? This is exciting!-Omar
The gold cards aren't strictly WEP -- they use 128-bit RC4.
-Omar