"A bit hasty aren't we? Especially since it'll be Xbox and PC bound just as soon, and look much better."
No, and no. They have not announced when XBOX or PC versions will comeout, and I don't want to wait another 8 months like I did with Vice City. B'sides, there are other bargain bin PS2 games I wouldn't mind having.
For fitting more music on a 128 megabyte card, it's fairly cool. Otherwise, I agree, it seems to be just another hot topic here to gain karma. For some reason, preferring OGG/Vorbis has been a status symbol of sorts.
Well I really can't speak for anybody besides myself, but the main reason I'm interested in maybe getting a PS2 is GTA San Andreas. Price cut is icing.
"Last night's Slashdot story about cellular viruses was, without a doubt, the worst dupe ever. Rest assures that I was on the Internet within minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world.. they owe me."
What? They've given you thousands of pages of entertainment for free. What could they possibly owe you? If anything, you owe them!
" Not only are we going to see a lot of innovation but we are going to see a lot of failed products in the years to come."
I think we'll see some mistaken thoughts, too. For example, lots of people here have said "why would I want a sub-par camera in my phone when a digital camera does more?" Hopefully there's some understanding about the whole convenience factor. So long as the basic functions work, I don't mind that there's a hard-to-reach calculator in just about everything you buy. It's a pain in the ass, but I actually have used the calculator on my cell phone. "better than nothing!"
"From previous posts, I seem to recall that you use Lightwave, right?"
Yes, that is correct.
" 2), head over to blanos.com, and check out his benchmarks."
Good idea!
"but I didn't see any P4 Xeon 2p results for the radiosity test scene"
Heh I just did that this morning. I ran the skull radiosity test with 8 threads. It was on a Dual P4 Xeon 2.4ghz 533 bus and Hyperthreading enabled. 119s. (I'll try to remember to log that at Blanos, time permitting...) That was running LW8, not sure if that make a difference.
"The big difference between Pentia and Opterons is that Pentia use a shared front side bus, while the Opties use Hypertransport, whith a memory controller on each CPU, so the CPU's aren't fighting each other to get at data to chew on as much."
Ugh. I hate trying to balance all this stuff because it's not so clear what exactly LW needs. For example, it takes so long to render, that it's not all that clear that moving 300 megs of textures through the memory bus is a huge bottleneck. (Good thing we got blanos!)
"I totally agree. Its *nice* to have a paper copy of something to read, but the benefits of having a fully searchable document, which takes up NO physical space outweigh the negatives for me."
Heh I have to admit, tho, it makes setting up a computer in the bathroom a lot more tempting.
Welp, your post sparked some debate here at the office. I'm at a small studio making a full length animated movie. One aspect of it we've been chewing on is what to get in terms of render farm down the road. I just had a few questions for you, if you don't mind:
1.) The words 'dual' and 'Opteron' both surprised us. We were kind of under the impression that maybe single proc machines would be better for a render farm. We were really curious why dual was chosen over single. Did the extra cost end up being worth it?
2.) You mentioned that Opteron was more efficient than Xeons. I just had to ask: Was the particular software you were using particularly tuned to Opteron (i.e. 64-bit?) or was the 32-bit side of it just pleasant to work with? Any more insight you can share with me about the use of Opteron would be most helpful.
3.) Did you guys end up buying a bunch of machines from a place like IBM or something, or was it more like "we bought the components and assembled ourselves..?" If it's the former, how'd you like the service?
4.) Any regrets or things you'd do differently next time around?
5.) Why are you getting rid of the machines used for Riddick? Or did I read that wrong?
One thing that really spooks me is that I've had enough trouble with fingerprints messing with dvds. The pits are too small. This is going to be worse, right?
I *really* hope they have the sense to put these in some sort of caddy. I know that won't be a popular idea here, but it really bugs me that the mere act of handling a disc puts it at risk. And since the movie industry won't let me make backups....
Sadly, I'm not into games enough anymore to want to subscribe to a gaming site. However, I am ready for the 'digital magazine' idea. I'd prefer to download a huge PDF or something, but I'd settle for site access I guess.
There was a time I resented the idea of not having a physical copy.. but I've moved like 3 times in the last 2 years. It don't take many of those to despise having to update subscriptions. I am still warming up to the idea of paying for news, though. It still seems funny. In that case, I demand video downloads etc.
"Slashdot *does* criticize Chinese policy, including information control and the like."
Additionally, Slashdot rarely reports the news error free, then it drives so many people to any given site thus blowing it out of existence. Maybe Slashdot isn't blocked because the Chinese gov't is saying "Heh, we don't have to worry about them learning anything new there."
"That we've all learned the disappointing lesson that lab results don't tend to display the same capacity in the real world."
Maybe not. It's still significantly more than cable can reasonably do. (~30 megabits)
In any event, if widely deployed, it should make for an interesting evolution to the net. I have NFI what 200 megabits would do, though. Streaming HDTV? Heh. Well that's only 19 megabits.
I have to wonder, though, would this mean more tele-commuting? If I had a >10 megabit connection to my office, we'd be able to add my home computer to the small render farm we're building. At my previous company where we were making a real-time high-def video system, some of the programmers would have a real decent chance of being able to work from home from time to time. That would have been nice. The project had a critical deadline. People missing a day here and there due to sickness == bad. So anybody who was coming down with something had to stay home in order to avoid spreading it to everybody else. I'm sure they enjoyed the day off, but if they could have been able to do at least some work so the day wasn't a total waste.. that woulda been nice.
Okay, I'm tired and rambling now. I'm seriously curious what the net will be like 10 years from now. More specifically, I'm curious how it'll embed itself into our lives. 200 megabits.. wow...
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"Get an airport(or as I have, an AirMac) card!"
Heh. The only time I ever had a problem with the wireless zero service was on an airport. (I doubt that was the problem, though...)
"How the HELL do you get past the snake???"
Mushroom! Mushroom!
Happy? Heh, well I was just teasing. :)
I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be that annoying.
"I have a registered nickname; my ID is half of yours."
Suuuuuuuuure.
"A bit hasty aren't we? Especially since it'll be Xbox and PC bound just as soon, and look much better."
No, and no. They have not announced when XBOX or PC versions will comeout, and I don't want to wait another 8 months like I did with Vice City. B'sides, there are other bargain bin PS2 games I wouldn't mind having.
"Who honestly cares about or uses Ogg?"
For fitting more music on a 128 megabyte card, it's fairly cool. Otherwise, I agree, it seems to be just another hot topic here to gain karma. For some reason, preferring OGG/Vorbis has been a status symbol of sorts.
"by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday June 15, @04:10PM (#943628)
you're connected to one of the largest repositories of human knowledge ever created and you're unable to correctly spell a word?"
I wouldn't take that from somebody who doesn't even know how to register a nickname.
Well I really can't speak for anybody besides myself, but the main reason I'm interested in maybe getting a PS2 is GTA San Andreas. Price cut is icing.
"Here it comes, SMS spam offering downloadable anti-virus software!"
If that ever happens, that company will recieve a $0.10 invoice for the instant messaging charge.
"Umm was this duped less than 12 hours ago?"
"Last night's Slashdot story about cellular viruses was, without a doubt, the worst dupe ever. Rest assures that I was on the Internet within
minutes, registering my disgust throughout the world.. they owe me."
What? They've given you thousands of pages of entertainment for free. What could they possibly owe you? If anything, you owe them!
" Not only are we going to see a lot of innovation but we are going to see a lot of failed products in the years to come."
I think we'll see some mistaken thoughts, too. For example, lots of people here have said "why would I want a sub-par camera in my phone when a digital camera does more?" Hopefully there's some understanding about the whole convenience factor. So long as the basic functions work, I don't mind that there's a hard-to-reach calculator in just about everything you buy. It's a pain in the ass, but I actually have used the calculator on my cell phone. "better than nothing!"
"From previous posts, I seem to recall that you use Lightwave, right?"
Yes, that is correct.
" 2), head over to blanos.com, and check out his benchmarks."
Good idea!
"but I didn't see any P4 Xeon 2p results for the radiosity test scene"
Heh I just did that this morning. I ran the skull radiosity test with 8 threads. It was on a Dual P4 Xeon 2.4ghz 533 bus and Hyperthreading enabled. 119s. (I'll try to remember to log that at Blanos, time permitting...) That was running LW8, not sure if that make a difference.
"The big difference between Pentia and Opterons is that Pentia use a shared front side bus, while the Opties use Hypertransport, whith a memory controller on each CPU, so the CPU's aren't fighting each other to get at data to chew on as much."
Ugh. I hate trying to balance all this stuff because it's not so clear what exactly LW needs. For example, it takes so long to render, that it's not all that clear that moving 300 megs of textures through the memory bus is a huge bottleneck. (Good thing we got blanos!)
Thanks for the reply
Thad,
I just wanted to thank you for both your insight, and in taking the time to respond. You gave us some stuff to chew on here.
Have a good day!
NG
"a sarcastic slashdot reader... you must be a killer with the ladies..."
There are plenty of ladies that think of me as being like a brother to them. Now all I need is a promotion and I'll finally hit second base!
... I'm gonna report myself as '*@*.*'.
"A "PC" that just scrapes Longhorn's requirements."
Giggle giggle, snort snort. We're so good at recycling other people's jokes, I wonder why none of us have girlfriends?
"I totally agree. Its *nice* to have a paper copy of something to read, but the benefits of having a fully searchable document, which takes up NO physical space outweigh the negatives for me."
Heh I have to admit, tho, it makes setting up a computer in the bathroom a lot more tempting.
Welp, your post sparked some debate here at the office. I'm at a small studio making a full length animated movie. One aspect of it we've been chewing on is what to get in terms of render farm down the road. I just had a few questions for you, if you don't mind:
1.) The words 'dual' and 'Opteron' both surprised us. We were kind of under the impression that maybe single proc machines would be better for a render farm. We were really curious why dual was chosen over single. Did the extra cost end up being worth it?
2.) You mentioned that Opteron was more efficient than Xeons. I just had to ask: Was the particular software you were using particularly tuned to Opteron (i.e. 64-bit?) or was the 32-bit side of it just pleasant to work with? Any more insight you can share with me about the use of Opteron would be most helpful.
3.) Did you guys end up buying a bunch of machines from a place like IBM or something, or was it more like "we bought the components and assembled ourselves..?" If it's the former, how'd you like the service?
4.) Any regrets or things you'd do differently next time around?
5.) Why are you getting rid of the machines used for Riddick? Or did I read that wrong?
Appreciated,
NanoG
"[X] You bought one of those cheap ass $40 DVD players."
Excellent guess Kreskin, but wrong.
One thing that really spooks me is that I've had enough trouble with fingerprints messing with dvds. The pits are too small. This is going to be worse, right?
I *really* hope they have the sense to put these in some sort of caddy. I know that won't be a popular idea here, but it really bugs me that the mere act of handling a disc puts it at risk. And since the movie industry won't let me make backups....
Sadly, I'm not into games enough anymore to want to subscribe to a gaming site. However, I am ready for the 'digital magazine' idea. I'd prefer to download a huge PDF or something, but I'd settle for site access I guess.
There was a time I resented the idea of not having a physical copy.. but I've moved like 3 times in the last 2 years. It don't take many of those to despise having to update subscriptions. I am still warming up to the idea of paying for news, though. It still seems funny. In that case, I demand video downloads etc.
" am sure i will get a lot of responses, but i still think that this is a solution looking for a problem"
Eh? The popularity of PocketPC's and mobile computing, and this is a solution looking for a problem?
I'm in China right now, and I just wanted to let you all know that Slashdot is still avai-0x$942k29482... [NO CARRIER]
"Slashdot *does* criticize Chinese policy, including information control and the like."
Additionally, Slashdot rarely reports the news error free, then it drives so many people to any given site thus blowing it out of existence. Maybe Slashdot isn't blocked because the Chinese gov't is saying "Heh, we don't have to worry about them learning anything new there."
"That we've all learned the disappointing lesson that lab results don't tend to display the same capacity in the real world."
Maybe not. It's still significantly more than cable can reasonably do. (~30 megabits)
In any event, if widely deployed, it should make for an interesting evolution to the net. I have NFI what 200 megabits would do, though. Streaming HDTV? Heh. Well that's only 19 megabits.
I have to wonder, though, would this mean more tele-commuting? If I had a >10 megabit connection to my office, we'd be able to add my home computer to the small render farm we're building. At my previous company where we were making a real-time high-def video system, some of the programmers would have a real decent chance of being able to work from home from time to time. That would have been nice. The project had a critical deadline. People missing a day here and there due to sickness == bad. So anybody who was coming down with something had to stay home in order to avoid spreading it to everybody else. I'm sure they enjoyed the day off, but if they could have been able to do at least some work so the day wasn't a total waste.. that woulda been nice.
Okay, I'm tired and rambling now. I'm seriously curious what the net will be like 10 years from now. More specifically, I'm curious how it'll embed itself into our lives. 200 megabits.. wow...