" For non sensitive areas there is more security than there obviously was in this case."
Arnie woulda handled it.
"As much as I love it a good song comes on the radio as I'm driving to work, I never thank my SUV or the stereo system in it."
Sorry, I don't buy it. It's well established in this movie that John had found Arnie's previous incarnation to be a father figure, and with good reason. The terminator, though a machine, valued human life. Argue all you want, but when it looks human and acts human, you're not going to think about whether or not you should thank him, especially when it clearly shows independent thought.
"When John tells Kate's father that he wants to stop Skynet, he would have instructed him to destroy the facility that they were in, if that was where Skynet resided."
Nope, sorry. Her father, wasn't paying attention to John, he wanted her to be taken somewhere safe. Crystal Peak. Destroying skynet wasn't on his mind, considering he had a hole in his abdomen.
"Valid point. I did not think of that. Perhaps, when the humans win, it's Skynet XP or something that they are fighting."
Or maybe there's only one power source left? Maybe the defense grid was protecting the single automated factory?
There's a problem here. When the first movie was written, it was widely accepted that a supercomputer was a single entity that filled a room. The distributed computing idea didn't show up in the mainstream until recently. It may never exactly line up.
"A whole bottle of pills, in one session? And they hinted that it wasn't the first time."
Yep, you're right. I'll chew on that a little more. The problem is that he really didn't limp a whole lot afterwards.
"I always check back for responses. I did enjoy the movie, but it could have been much better."
Yep, I agree with that. Personally, I wish they would have had somebody write a novel about it and then base a screenplay on it. I think (hope?) that would have fleshed out the details more.
On thing that saddens me a bit is that because it's an action movie, I don't think they'll turn it into to a mind bender. One of the thoughts that occured to me was along the lines of "What if the original original skynet and judgement day happened like in the 22nd century, and they kept pushing back the date it all started through paradoxes?" So it'd be like a paradox war. At one point, it'd be won when the right set of dates and events happen to give one side too much of a disadvantage. Skynet grows sentient, engages in a war with the humans, sends a terminator back in time, and the resistance sends somebody back to protect the target. In the process of doing so, they create the leader of the rebellion by giving him warning of what was coming.
Maybe the first leader was somebody totally different. A terminator went back in time to change the future. The rebellion sent somebody to take it out, and informed the target of what was coming. With that, he knew to fight back. Then, when his time came during the war, another attempt was made, pushing the date back, and so on...
That sort of make sense?
Sorry, I'm really tired. And I apologize for being a little short earlier. It's not out of bitterness or argument, I'm just really really tired heh.
"I find any kind of game which involves flaunting a disrespect for the law somewhat disturbing. On the other hand, a lot of laws don't deserve our respect and a lot of cops shouldn't be issued the badge."
I have played Vice City and GTA3 to death. I can honestly tell you without hesitation that in all the times I 'killed' cops in either of those games, I never connected them to police officers in real life. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but I thought you'd appreciate knowing that killing cops in that game does not promote any sort of anti-officer feelings in me. Now, if they'd make a Linux zealot model to go walking around throuhg the game...
"But how many more times can these types of bills be defeated? It'll only take one to get through, and we head down the slippery slope... "
Yeah but each time it gets defeated, it gets harder and harder to pass it.
I find it amusing they're trying to 'violence against officers' angle when TV and movies have been able to portray it for years. I don't think they're going to get anything like this through until they find something unique yet common to games. Maybe they should try to make 'violence against fungus based life forms' illegal to sell to anybody under 18.
"If the place has a policy to pay people a certain salary why aren't they following it? Is it intentional? Is it an oversight?"
At the end of the day, people who decide salaries are only human. It could be a mistake, it could be that the person is defficient in an area, it could be that the place wants him to leave but doesn't want to fire him. I'm being held back because I got promoted into a position I didn't go to college for. Figures.
"So where does this minimum come from?"
I'd like him to answer that. I wouldn't be surprised if the economy had something to do with it. Worse, it may not actually be policy for somebody to be paid a certain amount, just a guideline. He should get that in writing.
Now if only there was a ringtone to repel bugs in code!"
There is. It's called 'chord.wav'. Stupid sound plays every time there's an error in my code. I'm too lazy to go into Windows settings and change the sound, tho.
What got you into that position? At what point did you not get what you deserve?
I ask because I'm in the same boat. I got promoted during a salary freeze. No raise for me, so I'm under the minimum for my title as well.
I haven't resolved the problem, mainly because my company really is under financial pressure. It's hard to demand a raise when all of management took a 20% paycut so that use peons wouldn't get burned. (I wonder how many of you are hearing a story like that for the first time!)
However, if my company were to get on its feet again and continue to underpay me, I'd probably start shopping around for a new job. I'd likely play the "I have another offer, raise me or lose me" card. Unfortunately, I wouldn't dare do this without somewhere to go.
Okay, not a great solution, but I'd like to know how you got into that pickle.
"panelists agreed that SCO is targeting companies like IBM in an attempt to raise cash."... in stark contrast to every other corporation in the world that is in existence to better humanity.
"Personally, I really don't care how cool this system could be, I don't want what is basically an extension of some corporate incredibly proprietary system in my home. A corporation should not have power over things in my home to that extent. "
A.) It's a GAME MACHINE. Lighten up.
B.) How is this different from the GameCube, XBOX, PS 1&2, GameBoy, GameBoy Advance, Dreamcast (sorta), Saturn, Nintendo 64, 32X, Genesis, SNES, NES, Jaguar, Atari 2600/5200/7800, or Master System? I got news for ya, they were all proprietary, they all had protection schemes, and none of them allowed for you to make backups.
Either you're overreacting or you have serious trouble with the Game Industry in general.
In this particular case, they're trying to make money on games. After watching all the people trying to crack the XBOX to use it as a cheap PC, you can bet they're startled about it.
That's one sore spot with me over the whole XBOX hacking project, they validated the need for business to have DRM. You can bet future consoles will have it too.
"o one cares about you and your puny little life and conversations. But you would certainly care if someone was planning on blowing up your train station or office building."
I agree with you here. The Gov't isn't going to blackmail you. However, if the gov't can get in, why couldn't somebody else?
I think the privacy moans and groans are overrated, but I did have a nice little scare when the RIAA announced it would start to sue P2P users. I want my privacy to protect myself from them. I'm not worried about the USA knowing about my personal life (they do anyway, duh.), but when encryption is ordered to be turned off, suddenly I'm open to the world.
"I find it nice to boot up my old Indigo2 and play around, it responds so nicely, and renders quite well. "
What software, out of curiosity?
If it was something that was SGI-exclusive, that wouldn't be so surprising. SGI architecture is a different animal and fine tuned for that particular type of application.
"Thieves sued banks for forcing robbery to occur by not giving away free money. "
I know you're being funny, but the metaphor bugs me a bit. It doesn't bug me because of how you wrote it or what you're saying, but because it sort of resembles arguments that Jack Valenti has made on this topic. "Nobody would complain if gas stations used a stronger lock to protect their gas."
It'd be more like "A number of bank customers were arrested today because they took a crowbar to an ATM and duplicated cash that fell out of it. Though a few of them were in on it to have cash they didn't have a right to, a lot of them were just fed up with the bank for only allowing them to use debit cards to make purchases. The bank claimed that the revenue lost from debit fees was hurting the employees they were only paying minimum wage."
Sorry to dump your amusing post, Jack Valenti's debate style just winds me up. Nothing personal intended.
"I really wish these researchers would stop trying to distract the world from the real problem and maybe put their brains to good use-- say finding a solution to the problem at hand. Cosmic rays, blah. The fact of the matter is we have four billion people on the earth that breathe, fart and drive cars that put out enough noxious gas to kill you in you in a closed garage in mere minutes. "
Um. Can't stop the problem if you don't understand the nature of it. So finding out if it is 'cosmic rays' or not will be more beneficial than finding a cure for flatulence.
So, ya dun remember me. Got it.
:)
Carry on.
.. I would probably have had something really amusing to say. Damn, I really don't want to take the garbage out right now.
"Seriously, what would you do with 17,000 PlayStations?"
I'd take comfort in knowing that the odds were in my favor that one of them doesn't skip.
ah man, I did say that. Heh.
Remember me?
" For non sensitive areas there is more security than there obviously was in this case."
Arnie woulda handled it.
"As much as I love it a good song comes on the radio as I'm driving to work, I never thank my SUV or the stereo system in it."
Sorry, I don't buy it. It's well established in this movie that John had found Arnie's previous incarnation to be a father figure, and with good reason. The terminator, though a machine, valued human life. Argue all you want, but when it looks human and acts human, you're not going to think about whether or not you should thank him, especially when it clearly shows independent thought.
"When John tells Kate's father that he wants to stop Skynet, he would have instructed him to destroy the facility that they were in, if that was where Skynet resided."
Nope, sorry. Her father, wasn't paying attention to John, he wanted her to be taken somewhere safe. Crystal Peak. Destroying skynet wasn't on his mind, considering he had a hole in his abdomen.
"Valid point. I did not think of that. Perhaps, when the humans win, it's Skynet XP or something that they are fighting."
Or maybe there's only one power source left? Maybe the defense grid was protecting the single automated factory?
There's a problem here. When the first movie was written, it was widely accepted that a supercomputer was a single entity that filled a room. The distributed computing idea didn't show up in the mainstream until recently. It may never exactly line up.
"A whole bottle of pills, in one session? And they hinted that it wasn't the first time."
Yep, you're right. I'll chew on that a little more. The problem is that he really didn't limp a whole lot afterwards.
"I always check back for responses. I did enjoy the movie, but it could have been much better."
Yep, I agree with that. Personally, I wish they would have had somebody write a novel about it and then base a screenplay on it. I think (hope?) that would have fleshed out the details more.
On thing that saddens me a bit is that because it's an action movie, I don't think they'll turn it into to a mind bender. One of the thoughts that occured to me was along the lines of "What if the original original skynet and judgement day happened like in the 22nd century, and they kept pushing back the date it all started through paradoxes?" So it'd be like a paradox war. At one point, it'd be won when the right set of dates and events happen to give one side too much of a disadvantage. Skynet grows sentient, engages in a war with the humans, sends a terminator back in time, and the resistance sends somebody back to protect the target. In the process of doing so, they create the leader of the rebellion by giving him warning of what was coming.
Maybe the first leader was somebody totally different. A terminator went back in time to change the future. The rebellion sent somebody to take it out, and informed the target of what was coming. With that, he knew to fight back. Then, when his time came during the war, another attempt was made, pushing the date back, and so on...
That sort of make sense?
Sorry, I'm really tired. And I apologize for being a little short earlier. It's not out of bitterness or argument, I'm just really really tired heh.
Cheers man.
"I find any kind of game which involves flaunting a disrespect for the law somewhat disturbing. On the other hand, a lot of laws don't deserve our respect and a lot of cops shouldn't be issued the badge."
I have played Vice City and GTA3 to death. I can honestly tell you without hesitation that in all the times I 'killed' cops in either of those games, I never connected them to police officers in real life. I can't speak for the rest of the world, but I thought you'd appreciate knowing that killing cops in that game does not promote any sort of anti-officer feelings in me. Now, if they'd make a Linux zealot model to go walking around throuhg the game...
Okay dudes, I got a buck that says his machines are all Athlons.
"But how many more times can these types of bills be defeated? It'll only take one to get through, and we head down the slippery slope... "
Yeah but each time it gets defeated, it gets harder and harder to pass it.
I find it amusing they're trying to 'violence against officers' angle when TV and movies have been able to portray it for years. I don't think they're going to get anything like this through until they find something unique yet common to games. Maybe they should try to make 'violence against fungus based life forms' illegal to sell to anybody under 18.
"If the place has a policy to pay people a certain salary why aren't they following it? Is it intentional? Is it an oversight?"
At the end of the day, people who decide salaries are only human. It could be a mistake, it could be that the person is defficient in an area, it could be that the place wants him to leave but doesn't want to fire him. I'm being held back because I got promoted into a position I didn't go to college for. Figures.
"So where does this minimum come from?"
I'd like him to answer that. I wouldn't be surprised if the economy had something to do with it. Worse, it may not actually be policy for somebody to be paid a certain amount, just a guideline. He should get that in writing.
Are you high or are you testing to see if I'll respond? heh
Now if only there was a ringtone to repel bugs in code!"
There is. It's called 'chord.wav'. Stupid sound plays every time there's an error in my code. I'm too lazy to go into Windows settings and change the sound, tho.
What got you into that position? At what point did you not get what you deserve?
I ask because I'm in the same boat. I got promoted during a salary freeze. No raise for me, so I'm under the minimum for my title as well.
I haven't resolved the problem, mainly because my company really is under financial pressure. It's hard to demand a raise when all of management took a 20% paycut so that use peons wouldn't get burned. (I wonder how many of you are hearing a story like that for the first time!)
However, if my company were to get on its feet again and continue to underpay me, I'd probably start shopping around for a new job. I'd likely play the "I have another offer, raise me or lose me" card. Unfortunately, I wouldn't dare do this without somewhere to go.
Okay, not a great solution, but I'd like to know how you got into that pickle.
"Huh? How can you be making less than the minimum? What minimum are you talking about?"
He pays them to work there.
... because there's always a tradeshow just around the corner.
"panelists agreed that SCO is targeting companies like IBM in an attempt to raise cash." ... in stark contrast to every other corporation in the world that is in existence to better humanity.
... they said DRM! Everybody get your pitchforks out! Quick, before somebody interjects some reason into the situation!
"Personally, I really don't care how cool this system could be, I don't want what is basically an extension of some corporate incredibly proprietary system in my home. A corporation should not have power over things in my home to that extent. "
A.) It's a GAME MACHINE. Lighten up.
B.) How is this different from the GameCube, XBOX, PS 1&2, GameBoy, GameBoy Advance, Dreamcast (sorta), Saturn, Nintendo 64, 32X, Genesis, SNES, NES, Jaguar, Atari 2600/5200/7800, or Master System? I got news for ya, they were all proprietary, they all had protection schemes, and none of them allowed for you to make backups.
Either you're overreacting or you have serious trouble with the Game Industry in general.
In this particular case, they're trying to make money on games. After watching all the people trying to crack the XBOX to use it as a cheap PC, you can bet they're startled about it.
That's one sore spot with me over the whole XBOX hacking project, they validated the need for business to have DRM. You can bet future consoles will have it too.
"This is the one time when I think Soviet Russia jokes are on topic."
Hopefully they'll focus on making them funny.
" Why not just take advantage of receiver that's already available?"
So they can track down the physical location of the person making the call?
"o one cares about you and your puny little life and conversations. But you would certainly care if someone was planning on blowing up your train station or office building."
I agree with you here. The Gov't isn't going to blackmail you. However, if the gov't can get in, why couldn't somebody else?
I think the privacy moans and groans are overrated, but I did have a nice little scare when the RIAA announced it would start to sue P2P users. I want my privacy to protect myself from them. I'm not worried about the USA knowing about my personal life (they do anyway, duh.), but when encryption is ordered to be turned off, suddenly I'm open to the world.
"I find it nice to boot up my old Indigo2 and play around, it responds so nicely, and renders quite well. "
What software, out of curiosity?
If it was something that was SGI-exclusive, that wouldn't be so surprising. SGI architecture is a different animal and fine tuned for that particular type of application.
OFF-TOPIC
Sorry to be OT, but I'm trying to reach Lord Bitman and my other attempts have been unsuccessful.
Dude, can ya watchin your posts? Hope so, I don't know how else to get a hold of ya.
"Thieves sued banks for forcing robbery to occur by not giving away free money. "
I know you're being funny, but the metaphor bugs me a bit. It doesn't bug me because of how you wrote it or what you're saying, but because it sort of resembles arguments that Jack Valenti has made on this topic. "Nobody would complain if gas stations used a stronger lock to protect their gas."
It'd be more like "A number of bank customers were arrested today because they took a crowbar to an ATM and duplicated cash that fell out of it. Though a few of them were in on it to have cash they didn't have a right to, a lot of them were just fed up with the bank for only allowing them to use debit cards to make purchases. The bank claimed that the revenue lost from debit fees was hurting the employees they were only paying minimum wage."
Sorry to dump your amusing post, Jack Valenti's debate style just winds me up. Nothing personal intended.
"I really wish these researchers would stop trying to distract the world from the real problem and maybe put their brains to good use-- say finding a solution to the problem at hand. Cosmic rays, blah. The fact of the matter is we have four billion people on the earth that breathe, fart and drive cars that put out enough noxious gas to kill you in you in a closed garage in mere minutes. "
Um. Can't stop the problem if you don't understand the nature of it. So finding out if it is 'cosmic rays' or not will be more beneficial than finding a cure for flatulence.