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Repel Bugs With Your Cell Phone

telstar writes "Starting Monday, SK Telecom Co. in South Korea will begin offering a ringtone designed to repel mosquitoes for the one-time price of $2.50. The ringtone, inaudible to humans, has a range of three feet, and functions just like any other ring-tone from your cell." Now if only there was a ringtone to repel bugs in code! Sorry, I'm full of bad jokes today.

276 comments

  1. Regular ringtones repel me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I try to stay as far away as possible from someone with a cell phone.

    1. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      I try to stay as far away as possible from someone with a cell phone.


      Me too. But since i'm writing bugs for living, being a programmer, it may prove they're on the right way..
    2. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by giel · · Score: 1

      Have you got a management role?

      I'd like to have a ringtone that makes managers run away from me...

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    3. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I'd like to have a ringtone that makes managers run away from me..." Sure, it's called "you're fired."

    4. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by sharkey · · Score: 1

      Actually, I prefer regular ringtones. It's those fuckers that HAVE to have R2-D2 beeping some shitty song slightly off-key that repel me.

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    5. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by Mantorp · · Score: 1

      nothing is as annoying as the walkie talkie phones

    6. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by Demodian · · Score: 1

      nothing is as annoying as the walkie talkie phones

      Sure there is... being harassed every 15 seconds by a clueless idiot on the other end of another walkie talkie phone.

    7. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by I+Like+Swords!!! · · Score: 1

      Yeah...

      "Can you hear me now?"

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    8. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It seems that you have never heard of polyphonic ringtones.

    9. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by devilspgd · · Score: 1

      Good!

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    10. Re:Regular ringtones repel me by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      Except getting used to having one and then moving to Sprint where you've gotta actually dial a number to contact your wife... :)

  2. Mosquito Repel Software by l810c · · Score: 3, Informative

    Anyone use this software? Does it work? Seems like it could be apdapted to a PDA.

    1. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative
      "antimos.exe - Entry Point Not Found"

      The procedure entry point RegisterService Process could not be located in the dynamic linkk library KERNEL32.dll

      It didn't work on Win2k.
    2. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by AndroidCat · · Score: 3, Funny

      So far as I know, all those sonic pest repel gizmos work best if you fling them at the pest.

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    3. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by vinayski · · Score: 1

      Works just fine on Linux.
      I can work on the patio now
      He Haaah

    4. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by shokk · · Score: 1

      Who needs software?!? Just rip an MP3 of the tone and it will spread like wildfire. If ever there was a humanitarian use for computer technology, this is it. Third world countries can have the tone playing continuously in the background across computer speakers on all systems to keep disease carrying mosquitos away. Then again most people who can afford to have a computer running 24x7 aren't really concerned about catching cholera from mosquitos. Still it could put all those old Rio PMP300 players to good use. Public places could run it over the loudspeakers to keep those areas free from bugs. It's not like we would mind since we cannot hear it. Those areas affected by West Nile carrying mosquitos would also appreciate this.

      How silly to market this as a boon to cell-toting SUV freaks as cure for mosquito annoyances when it applies to a situation of life and death elsewhere in the world.

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    5. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      They work for me. I had my doubts, but a 'black light' bug zapper I got came with a keychain mosquito repeller. I am a mosquito magnet. Summer starts for me after the first bite (around May) and ends after the last scratch (around October). I probably built up an immunity to Lyme disease, West Nile, Malaria, and others by now from all the bites I get.

      I went camping this year on a rather humid weekend. I carried the active electronic repeller on me all times while outside. We never did use the large blacklight zapper. The first two nights were fine. The freebie battery that came with it went dead on the third night and I got several bites that night. Now I keep a set of batteries with my camping gear. I can hear the thing when it's on if I hold it up to my ear, so I know when I need to change the battery.

    6. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by jdray · · Score: 1

      Do you have a brand name on that thing? I need to get one for my wife. I only get about three or four bites a year, but my wife gets eaten alive by the little pests. I attribute it to not eating {beef, pork, lamb, chicken, etc.}, so I don't give off any mosquito-attractive odors (or, for that matter, any odors that attract anything/anyone else). :^)

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    7. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      I'm out of town for a while and can't get the exact brand name. It came as a free gift in the box of a rechargeable black light bug zapper I got at K-Mart for about $20. I believe the brand name was Sunbeam.

      The free repeller (about the size of a keychain) worked for me. I guess if your body chemistry is different, that could alter it's effectiveness. I haven't gone camping yet since that last time. I'm hoping it still works as well as it did before.

    8. Re:Mosquito Repel Software by balloonhead · · Score: 1

      Cholera from a mosquito? This man's a medical marvel!

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  3. So... by Osrin · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... if you're troubled by a bug you need to quickly find a payphone and call yourself? How will it work?

    1. Re:So... by op51n · · Score: 1

      Well quite, strikes me as like listening to a walkman and hearing that buzzing clicking sound and knowing your phones about to do something. So when you stop slapping yourself you know to be ready to answer it... great!

    2. Re:So... by dreadnougat · · Score: 2, Informative

      "Customers can then play the sound by hitting a few buttons on their mobile phones." come on, it wasn't anywhere close to being a long article, and even the basic concept is kind of common sense :(

    3. Re:So... by Osrin · · Score: 1

      And I guess you will "know" that it's playing by the swarms of fleeing bugs?

    4. Re:So... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      I'm arranging with my G/F to have our phones call each other every 10 minutes when we're together. We never answer the phone, but it will keep the bugs away.

      If that doesn't work (i.e. you don't have an SO), you can set up a cron job to have your computer do the same thing for you.

      while sleep 500 ; do dial 604-555-1234,,,, ; done
      ( dial is my own shell script that I use to have my computer do the dialing for me. It integrates nicely with my qick and dirty phone-number finder. )
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    5. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm arranging with my G/F to have our phones call each other every 10 minutes when we're together.

      Points for casually mentioning existence of girlfriend on Slashdot.

    6. Re:So... by jonfelder · · Score: 2, Funny

      Don't forget it would have to incorporate a de-ionizer as well.

    7. Re:So... by dreadnougat · · Score: 1

      *shrug* how do you "know" insect repellent is working? You're not getting bit... If it works, lots of people will buy it, if it doesn't, fewer people will buy it.

    8. Re:So... by MrLint · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why dont they crank up the broadcast power on the cellphone like 50x and give all the bugs cancer:)

    9. Re:So... by A+Bugg · · Score: 1

      ...or by cracking the broadcast power up that much they might get rid of the whole human-bug problem by killing off all the humans too. Albeit slowly and painfully, cancer is a bitch for us too.
      A Bugg

    10. Re:So... by kwenda · · Score: 1

      That's not cron. That's not even 10 minutes.

      */10 * * * * dial 8005551212 > /dev/null 2>&1

    11. Re:So... by Stalemate · · Score: 1

      Well, he did admit to writing Quick and Dirty code. Maybe you'd be interested in Correct and Proper?

    12. Re:So... by Micah · · Score: 1
      That reminds me of one of the more evil things I did in college. Our college had phone extensions ranging from 4600 to 4950.

      Wrote a Turbo Pascal program (sorry, this was in the DOS days, OK?) that basically went...
      for each number in 4600 to 4950
      next if (number) in exclude list, which included friends and a few females
      pick up modem, dial number
      wait 10 seconds (long enough for 2 rings)
      hang up modem
      wait 2 seconds
      next
      Wrote another script to start it at 4:30 in the morning. Went to bed. Enjoyed listening to conversations at breakfast the next day! :)
    13. Re:So... by pyrote · · Score: 1

      a $3999 DRM-crippled cell phone

      great, so I have to purchase a license for every mosquito I want to repel. just my luck I'll get a bootleg mosquito and it'll kill me.

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    14. Re:So... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1

      No. It's not a cron jub. it's just a different way of doing the same thing (ad/hock) except every 500 seconds instead of every 10 minutes). roughly the same effect.

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    15. Re:So... by Stephen+Samuel · · Score: 1
      Me and a friend did something similar, but with better reason. When he got his phone line, he got an unpublished number -- It's much harder to get hold of than an unlisted number... as he found out because they never told him what his number was when he got the line, and when he went back to get it they told him they couldn't release that data even to him with anything less than a court order.

      He did know what exchange he was in, so that only left us 10000 numbers to go through (!). Since he had a nice new sportster modem we decided to write a program that would go through every number in the exchange and dial it. If we got a 'RINGING' response, then we'd hang up immediately, and forget that number. If we got a 'BUSY' signal, then we'd save that number for the next pass.

      On each pass, we figured that we'd get at least 90% non-busy signals, so after 3 or 4 passes we should be down to a couple dozen numbers. At that point, I could just call each of those numbers from my home, until I got him, then we'd know what his phone number was.

      to avoid seriously pissing off people with rotary banks, we decided to randomize the order in which we called the numbers.

      Just before we'd finished the program, he got a wrong number dialing his phone. He had the presence of mind to ask the person what number they were trying to dial, and from that we got ourselves down to a handful of probable permutations and that was all we needed ... so we never actually used the program.

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    16. Re:So... by ADOT+Troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Mosquitos find their targets from the trail of carbon dioxide left behind by exhaling. So I have heavy doubts about this Korean invention working at all. What does work so far are those traps with their own CO2 generators. (But even then it is not perfect.)

      Those high frequency sound generators may repel mice and rats, but only for a short period of time. What happens is that their offspring will come back to re-infest the area. The difference between the off-spring and the parents is that the kiddie rodents will be born deaf. Rodents like roaches are highly adaptive. (Got that little tidbit of information from someone who used to work in the exterminator business.)

    17. Re:So... by God!+Awful+2 · · Score: 1


      I'm arranging with my G/F to have our phones call each other every 10 minutes when we're together. We never answer the phone, but it will keep the bugs away.

      There aren't many bugs in Vancouver anyway. If you lived somewhere with bad mosquitos you would know that they are very persistent. If you wear insect repellant, they don't bite you, but they still hover within 6 inches of your face. A range of 3 feet is useless. You would have to be calling yourself constantly. Your phone's going to run out of batteries within the hour.

      -a

    18. Re:So... by szap · · Score: 1
      Mosquitos find their targets from the trail of carbon dioxide left behind by exhaling.
      It probably works by cranking up the broadcast power on the cellphone like 50x and give the owner and bystanders cancer, kill 'em, and that'll stop CO2 from being exhaled. Tadah! No more mosquitoes. Now go sell them maggot repelers.

      Good riddance to annoying ringtone users.

    19. Re:So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ever thought of just reading the phone bill to get the number, it's up there in the corner.

    20. Re:So... by SomeoneGotMyNick · · Score: 1

      So, there's millions of childish mosquitos saying:

      "I'm not touching you.. I'm not touching you...."

  4. CowboyNeal Joke Repellant by VudooCrush · · Score: 4, Funny

    "Now if only there was a ringtone to get rid of CowboyNeal's bad jokes"

    1. Re:CowboyNeal Joke Repellant by sharkey · · Score: 0, Troll
      "Now if only there was a ringtone to get rid of CowboyNeal's bad jokes"

      Give him the ol' JonKatz. Check his box so that you don't see his stories.

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  5. So... by mgcsinc · · Score: 4, Funny

    So how long until sharper image releases the bug-b-gone 2200, a $3999 DRM-crippled cell phone capable only of playing the mosquito-repelling ringtone and serving you warm Colombian java.

  6. Which will be stronger? by I+Like+Swords!!! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This ringing sound.... or the odors that attract them to you in the first place?

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    1. Re:Which will be stronger? by spybreak · · Score: 1

      Actually I thought that mosquitoes where more attracted to colour (particularly blue).

    2. Re:Which will be stronger? by I+Like+Swords!!! · · Score: 2, Informative

      www.mosquitomagnet.com might shed some light on it.

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    3. Re:Which will be stronger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually they are attracted to other creatures due to C02.

    4. Re:Which will be stronger? by Imperator · · Score: 1

      Mosquitoes aren't attracted by odors per se. They're attracted by CO2, which you don't have much of a choice except to exhale.

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    5. Re:Which will be stronger? by I+Like+Swords!!! · · Score: 1

      What is an odor? a chemical we smell. How do mosquitoes sense the CO2? Do they perhaps SMELL it? Just because a chemical is odorless to US doesn't mean it is for every other life form. What is considered mundane to us may be key to another life's survival; ie, a [female] mosquito searching for blood.

      CO2 may not be an odor to us because WE do not bother registering the compound, but chances are, it is for some other life form, that being the mosquito. Whether the "sense" they use to detect it is defined as smell, it can still be called an "odor" if taken in the context of how it's sensed, or an analogous sense present in the human body.

      I know, yak yak yak.

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    6. Re:Which will be stronger? by Imperator · · Score: 1

      point taken :)

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    7. Re:Which will be stronger? by N+Monkey · · Score: 1

      They're attracted by CO2, which you don't have much of a choice except to exhale.
      A naturalist (in Kakadu National Park, Australia, which has 'one or two' mozzies) told me they are also are attracted to oestrogen, which we all produce. Note, however, that I believe that alcohol makes male bodies produce more... but at least I guess you don't feel the initial bites. :-)

    8. Re:Which will be stronger? by Imperator · · Score: 1
      Note, however, that I believe that alcohol makes male bodies produce more... but at least I guess you don't feel the initial bites. :-)

      That and the mosquito flies a little wobbly for a while. :)

      (Yeah, I know, mosquitos don't absorb our blood into theirs; they just "digest" it, so to speak.)

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  7. Why a ringtone? by Edgewize · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Hey, Mike. Thank god you called. The mosquitos are really something out here, you should see them. Yowch! God dammit! Hey, do me a favor Mike? Hang up and call me back!"

    1. Re:Why a ringtone? by SquadBoy · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm married to a Korean girl and love her so take the following with that in mind.

      Korean's are *paranoid* about mosquitos I mean freaking irrational. *Anything* that cliams to get rid of mozquitos will sell like hotcakes over there does not matter if it makes sense or not. Think about it a ringtone you can't hear. In any case that is why an anti-mosquito ringtone.

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    2. Re:Why a ringtone? by EmbeddedJanitor · · Score: 1

      Think about it a ringtone you can't hear. Stops those pesky calls getting through too.

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    3. Re:Why a ringtone? by jlindberg · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Korean's are *paranoid* about mosquitos I mean freaking irrational."

      Hah, they should come to Minnesota... Our other state bird is the mosquito.

    4. Re:Why a ringtone? by smilingirl · · Score: 3, Funny
      Try living in the swamps of Louisiana... I've been in places where you can *literally* be covered in them. Stick your arm out and have about 100 fly on you. And since it doesn't snow here, we still have mosquitoes in January. ;)

      When I used to wait for the bus in the morning it was still dark sometimes when I was in high school, and since I read that mosquitoes are attracted to the high concentrations of CO2 that you release out your mouth/nose, I used to breath out in one spot, then dash to the other side of the driveway. I think it worked, but it could have been my imagination...

      At any rate, the mosquito dance is always the best trick. Keep all limbs moving around! =)

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    5. Re:Why a ringtone? by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1
      I used to breath out in one spot, then dash to the other side of the driveway.
      "i don't know, mr. officer, he... he just came running 'cross the street! i... i had no chance to react! omygodomygod... and this is my first month as a busdriver..." :)
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    6. Re:Why a ringtone? by tybalt44 · · Score: 1

      I think Minnesota's official state bird is the blackfly, is it not?

  8. I've decoded the mysterious sound by winkydink · · Score: 5, Funny

    By carefully re-adjustng the frequency of the tone down to a level that humans can hear and slowing the playing speed down 300 times, I have been able to determine that it's a guy's voice saying, "this person tastes like crap"

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    1. Re:I've decoded the mysterious sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Mod parent down!

      Violation of the DMCA!!!

    2. Re:I've decoded the mysterious sound by retto · · Score: 4, Funny

      Great, now I'll be swarmed by dung beetles.

    3. Re:I've decoded the mysterious sound by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually, he's really just saying "deet, deet, deet" over and over.

      I'm here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress!

    4. Re:I've decoded the mysterious sound by tunabomber · · Score: 1

      Really? I did the same thing and the sound was just kind of a DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!.

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    5. Re:I've decoded the mysterious sound by hcetSJ · · Score: 1
      it's a guy's voice saying, "this person tastes like crap"
      ...in Korean

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  9. Hum by lvdrproject · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Ehh... why would i buy a ring tone that i can't even hear?

    1. Re:Hum by jmanning2k · · Score: 1

      If you want to actually use the phone to talk to someone, then go somewhere with a lot of bugs, and wait for them to all run away.

      Oooh... bugs are gone. I must be getting a call...

  10. Ring tone to repel bugs by rjamestaylor · · Score: 2, Funny
    Most bugs are found by pesky users who don't use applications the way they're meant to be used. For this reason I always specify Sony Vaio laptops for my end users so that when they complain of a bug I can send them that special ringtone to repel the buggar.

    [So convoluted *I* lost track of the joke]

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  11. Repel Bugs with my Cell Phone? by TWX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Maybe I should just leave it on top of my computer then...

    Has Microsoft heard of this technology?

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  12. Uhh.. by grub · · Score: 2, Funny


    That's just stupid.

    Alice: Damn these moquitos are eating me alive. Someone call me.
    Bob: I would but I'm waiting for Carl across the table to call me first, I'm almost out of blood.
    Carl: Just a sec Bob, I'm calling Dave.
    Dave: ahhhh..

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  13. Battery Life? by retto · · Score: 3, Interesting

    What good is this if it would run your battery down quickly? Better keep an eye on the meter so you have another power to call someone and tell them to bring you a can of 'Off'

    Another case of mis-applied technology.

    1. Re:Battery Life? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...have enough power...

      ergh...spending too long in front of a screen

  14. Simple test by datastew · · Score: 1

    Can someone who has bought the ring tone wait for a mosquito to come around and then see if the tone repels said insect?

    Often a simple experiment is worth more than a hundred random slashdot opinions.

    1. Re:Simple test by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 2, Informative

      Not at all. Inaudable beepers supposedly designed to repel mosquitoes are a relatively long-running case of modern snake oil. Any Boy Scout can tell you about the only thing that actually is effective against mosquitoes: Bug spray containing DEET.

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    2. Re:Simple test by Elwood+P+Dowd · · Score: 5, Funny

      Cigarette smoke works too. They didn't tell you about that in Boy Scouts, did they?

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    3. Re:Simple test by CableModemSniper · · Score: 2, Funny

      You don't know many boy scouts do you?

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    4. Re:Simple test by Baloo+Ursidae · · Score: 1

      Any kind of smoke works. However, most people don't like standing in smoke for the same reasons mosquitoes don't.

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    5. Re:Simple test by A+Bugg · · Score: 3, Funny

      no but the scout master always took me out for "special" walks in the woods to get away from the mosquitos.

    6. Re:Simple test by Theaetetus · · Score: 1
      "Gee, Scoutmaster, it's kinda dark and scary in the woods out here..."
      "How do you think I feel, Billy? I have to walk back alone."

      I didn't write it! /me runs for cover.

      -T

  15. Inaudible to humans hmm? by oiper · · Score: 5, Funny

    So I guess the only time you know you're getting a call is when you aren't getting bit.

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    1. Re:Inaudible to humans hmm? by daveo0331 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Everyone should be required to install this ringtone before entering a theater.

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    2. Re:Inaudible to humans hmm? by 955301 · · Score: 1

      Or more importantly, at a company picnic.

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  16. Now if they could only... by lily2skippy · · Score: 3, Funny

    develop a sound to repel Cell phone users.

  17. Sounds great...if you're an oncologist! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. I'll put this device emmiting HIGH INTENSITY ULTRASONIC WAVES next to MY HEAD each day ands see if anything happens to me!

    1. Re:Sounds great...if you're an oncologist! by dreadnougat · · Score: 1

      Solution: don't put it next to your head! Why would you walk around with it next to your head when you aren't talking on it, and why would you have it set to repel when you are? I imagine you'd probably get nothing more than a head ache, anyway. Ahh... that brings back memories of HS compsci. More headaches in that class than any other place, ever.

    2. Re:Sounds great...if you're an oncologist! by NETHED · · Score: 1

      You're absolutly right, I much prefer to put this ultrasonic wave generator right by my genitals. Wait a minute.....

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    3. Re:Sounds great...if you're an oncologist! by dreadnougat · · Score: 1

      You know what's terrible? All those babies that die needlessly because some ignorant doctor used an ULTRASOUND. Ahem.

    4. Re:Sounds great...if you're an oncologist! by NETHED · · Score: 1

      Quite, but its not radiating for 6-8 hours/day 6 days a week. By your logic, we should be able to have portable x-ray generators because our doctors can use them, so it must be safe.

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  18. the best kind of ringtone by Geldon · · Score: 1

    Now if only they made a ringtone that repelled my parents :-)

  19. Turnabout by Valdrax · · Score: 1

    Personally, I'd buy bugs that would repel cellphone users first -- especially if they could be released into traffic!

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  20. Any details? by Mensa+Babe · · Score: 1

    What are the characteristics of this sound? (the exact frequency value, band width, wave shape, period length, etc.) Thanks.

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  21. hype. by urbazewski · · Score: 4, Informative
    I bought several little devices that suposedly emitted an inaudible tone to repel mosquitoes to take with me to Indonesia, which I ordered from a catalog of "environmentally sound" products (they were solar powered, if I recall). I chucked them after a week, after watching a mosquito land on one. I've heard similarly bad reviews of other "inaudible" products...

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    1. Re:hype. by Benley · · Score: 1

      I always hate all these "inaudible" products, because they never seem to be anywhere inaudible. I was at a family member's house a few months ago, and they had one of those pest repelling "inaudible" things in the family room behind the tv. Nobody else seemed bothered by the thing, but it sounded ridiculously loud and annoying to me- in fact all it seemed to accomplish was repelling me from the family room. Maybe I'm just a freak of nature for hearing those frequencies, but sheeesh... Every one of those things I've ever run across has been extremely audible. How about you guys, can you hear them? My family just thinks I'm nuts. (and they are right, but that is another story :)

    2. Re:hype. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you're special.

    3. Re:hype. by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1
      Maybe I'm just a freak of nature for hearing those frequencies

      Then so am I. I once tracked down a baby field mouse in foot tall grass from 40 feet away, from its squeaking, despite birds chirping and other background noise. My ears were way younger then...

      However, I have never used those "inaudible" devices, so who knows...?

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    4. Re:hype. by DoorFrame · · Score: 1

      I bought my father a inaudible pest repeller for his garden at one point a few years ago. It had two settings, one to keep away smaller animals like squirrels and mice, and another to keep away larger animals like deer and foxes. We brought it out to the garden and set it up, first we set it to the small animal repeller with no problem. But we were trying to get rid of deer, so we switched to large animal.

      My brother instantly started shrieking. "Turn it off! Turn it off!" Apparently he was a large animal. None of the rest of us could hear it. Not only that, but even if he was several hundred feet away and you turned it on, he would yell for you to turn it off. Apparently it worked really well... on my brother.

      That gift didn't work out too well in the end.

    5. Re:hype. by sllim · · Score: 1

      Environementaly sound?
      Let me get this straight, you bought several of them, saw they didn't work and then threw them away.
      But you still feel good about yourself because they were solar powered?

      I wonder what sort of nasty chemicals go into making things like plastic and solar cells?

      Not to mention the environmentally sound solution of throwing them away.

      I guess as long as it makes you feel like you are a better person.....

    6. Re:hype. by bluGill · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'm not a medical expert, but IIRC human ears have the ability to hear selected frequences well above the normal range. You might be able to hear everything from 20hz-14,600hz, and a few selected frequences up to 30,000hz, but others inbetween are inaudiable. The ones you can hear depend on your particular ear.

      I think I understand how to explain it better, but it is late. Besides, I'd prefer those who care to do their own research to verify it, while the rest think "That's interesting I won't if it is true" than to take me as some expert.

    7. Re:hype. by forevermore · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Did you read the packaging? I have one of these little things that I got from Real Goods - little solar powered gadget that emits a high-pitched whine that some people can hear.

      These devices emit the noise of an "angry male mosquito", and because only pregnant females bite, they're supposed to get scared away by the sound of an angry male. The thing is, according to the packaging on my device, there are over 1400 species of mosquito in the world, and this only works on about 500 of them. It doesn't scare all of them away - some of them it just makes not interested in biting. And of course, there are those 900 species that it has no effect on.

      I've used my mosquito guard thingie all over the place - from the mountains in WA state (I live in Seattle and camp fairly often) to jungles in central america (where I've been on several occasions). It seems to work on most mosquitos I've run across, both in the flying-away sense (luckily, the horribly-toxic ones that live around my house), and in the not-biting sense (about 90% of the ones in Costa Rica). Others (like some I ran across while camping last weekend) seem completely unaffected.

      It's a gamble. But if I figure it prevents me the annoyance of a few mosquito bites, it's worth carrying around.

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    8. Re:hype. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No the size of the mosquitos 'straw' is important so the sound needed will vary for different species of mosquitos.

    9. Re:hype. by awtbfb · · Score: 1
  22. What I want to see by dmomo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Is a ringtone that repels the people who are calling.

    1. Re:What I want to see by Jonny+Ringo · · Score: 1

      hmm. Yeah. I don't get i.. WAIT! I think I got it ... No no. I don't get it.

      Sorry

    2. Re:What I want to see by yelohbird · · Score: 1

      sorry, that exists already...it's called "Then-Don't-Get-A-Cellfone-You-Idiot"

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  23. Spanish Fly Ring Tone by felonious · · Score: 3, Funny

    What about a ring tone that works as an aphrodisiac? I'm pretty much the epitome of a walking aphrodisiac when it comes to women (:D) but I'm tired of playing the game. It would be so much easier to hit a button, have my phone ring, and watch her go mid-evil on my schlong.

    Maybe they could also feature an add on ring for the next moring that makes her get the fuck out of my bed, cook me breakfast, blow me, leave and wipe, all memories of what happened, out like that thing in "Men in Black"?
    I know...that is an AI-centric technology that is eons away....FUCK!!!

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    1. Re:Spanish Fly Ring Tone by JeanBaptiste · · Score: 2, Funny
      It would be so much easier to hit a button, have my phone ring, and watch her go mid-evil on my schlong.

      ... sounds cool, until your phone gets a virus that changes the ringtone, and suddenly you find yourself a love target for every pitbull in a 2km radius...
    2. Re:Spanish Fly Ring Tone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Maybe they could also feature an add on ring for the next moring that makes her get the fuck out of my bed, cook me breakfast, blow me, leave and wipe, all memories of what happened, out like that thing in "Men in Black"? I know...that is an AI-centric technology that is eons away....FUCK!!!
      Your placement of the comma after wipe is sheer comical genius.
    3. Re:Spanish Fly Ring Tone by felonious · · Score: 1

      Imagine the possibilities... You could use it in Iraq to get Sadam out of hiding to hump some camels
      You could get OBL into a 3 way with some goats
      You could get Paul Reubens to hump Mr Rodgers leg...on second thought he's dead....scratch that one.
      Maybe the best use would be to broadcast it in the American Idol Audience to infect them with the "RAGE" disease from the movie "28 Days Later. They could destroy one another in a genocidal rage then we would be rid of those sad, pathetic, miserable, flock of sheep once and for all.
      Ok one more....Send Richard Simmons to the Gulf with a ring tone that gets everyone out of their sheets and towels all the while why sweatin' to the oldies!

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    4. Re:Spanish Fly Ring Tone by Xyde · · Score: 1
  24. Marcelle Marsoe Calling.... by Knoxvill3 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The ringtone, inaudible to humans,....."

    Ok, I give, how am I going to know when I'm getting a call then? Move to mosquito infested parts of the land, and wait for them to suddenly scatter?

    Other than that, it's nice to see that now mosquitos will fall victim to people who just have to mess with their ringtones all the time.

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    1. Re:Marcelle Marsoe Calling.... by LineNoiz · · Score: 1

      How about... You don't actually use it as your ring tone? That way, you could hear it ring. Why would you buy it, then? Well... Suppose you're in a mosquito-infested plot of space. Whip out the ol' celly, change the ring tone to the mosquito repeller, and 'preview' it non-stop. Viola! Portable mosquito repeller...

      Of course, the real reason somebody would buy it is because they are an idiot, as sound-based mosquito repellers don't do a damn thing to the bugs...

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  25. Why? by FunkyMarcus · · Score: 1, Troll

    1. Come up with ridiculous business model

    Wouldn't you think that it'd be easier to package a simple oscillator circuit and a speaker in a plastic box and charge $5 for it?

    2. ???

    Now, I know what you're saying: when you do it with cell phones, you get to charge $2.50 a month, and recurring revenue beats one-shot, right?

    3. Profit!

    But this is Korea we're talking about, here. When was the last time a Hyundai lasted longer than a month without needing to be replaced?

  26. did they even think? by jake666 · · Score: 1

    now while i hate mosquitoes as much as the next guy, i see some serious flaws in this product. first off, why would they choose to make this a "ringtone". is it not important for a person to actually HEAR his phone ringing? also, because of it merely being a ringtone, you would only repel mosquitoes for 35 seconds tops at a time. how is this even remotely effective? the range on this can't possibly be far enough to even be considered a well working product. looks like this one needs a little more time on the ol' burner....

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  27. Purring Kitty + Insect Repellent by maliabu · · Score: 2, Funny

    once someone figured out how to combine this Purring Kitty Ringtone with its insect repelling counterpart, imagine what can truly be enjoyed anywhere in the dark?

  28. Ignore the crazy man asking the stupid questions.. by qu4rtz · · Score: 0

    How long does the ring tone last? Does it play continually? After you activate it, does it just override the regular ring tone, or does it play out of a different speaker set on the phone? How much power does it require from the phone to keep activated? Does it.... Damn, the question mark key broke. Anyway, I just felt curious. Mostly because I'm being devoured by insects this summer.

  29. If we can't hear it, how do we know it's working? by FunkyMarcus · · Score: 1

    This story should have been from the we-can-sell-you-the-brooklyn-bridge department.

    Mark

  30. Bug Zapper by wikthemighty · · Score: 1

    I've found that my Vaio does wonders for mosquitos when people call me...

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  31. Ultrasonic ringtone? by Pathwalker · · Score: 1

    Hey - I've stopped itching - someone must be trying to call me!

    Now, if they had a tone that would attract bugs, that could be quite useful for pranks...

  32. Read the article... by Endareth · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Customers can then play the sound by hitting a few buttons on their mobile phones.

    The idea is not to use it as a ring tone, simply to play it manually when you want to get rid of mozzies. If it actually works as advertised then it sounds like a decent idea to me!

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  33. Why pay $2.50? by MrDickey · · Score: 2, Funny

    When you can download high-pitched annoying sounds off of Kazaa...... look up Celine Dion

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  34. Cowboy Neal vs Comments by sixdotoh · · Score: 1

    Man, this article has worse jokes than cowboy neal.... if there's one more "call me" joke.....

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  35. "The Company Claimed..." by Ted_Green · · Score: 4, Informative

    The company claimed that the service worked during tests. ...yes. But they fail to mention that every other ring tone repels the bloodsuckers just as well. The minor EM field generated when the phone rings screws with their sensory equipment.

    1. Re:"The Company Claimed..." by Cyno · · Score: 1

      So.. we should give everyone miniture radio antennas to fry bugs and eachother with.

  36. Probably attracts mosquitos by alakon · · Score: 1
    There is no real scientific proof cited. Probably like citronella candles-- this is from "Mosquito Facts" (http://161.58.96.183/facts/#mf15):
    Robert Novak of the University of Illinois tested these products for ABC News. He reported that when smoke from a coil covered a human test subject's shin, the mosquitoes flew around the subject's leg and bit them on the calf!
  37. Ringtone storage format? by Patrick · · Score: 4, Informative
    What format are ringtones stored in that they can represent tones beyond the range of human hearing? Most audio formats top out around 22 or 24 KHz tones (44.1 or 48 KHz sampling). My last cell phone only allowed the notes available on a piano, none of which is beyond human hearing.

    Even if the ringtone format can represent tones that high, can the cellphone speaker reproduce them? Again, many speakers are only rated to about 20 KHz, because that's all that's useful for human beings.

    And finally, couldn't you just make a device for about $5 that would actually do this right and last a whole lot longer on a set of batteries? Cell phones are not the right way to make a constant 40KHz (say) tone.

    I'm inclined to categorize this the same way I categorize stand-alone sonic pest-repelling devices: well-intentioned but useless. Incidentally, that's the category I put normal cell phones in as well. :)

    1. Re:Ringtone storage format? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Again, many speakers are only rated to about 20 KHz, because that's all that's useful for human beings.
      Further, the phone network can only handle frequencies up to about 4 KHz -- so why would a cell phone maker bother trying to make their speaker reproduce frequencies above that?

      (Ever wonder why modems top out at ~56K, or why single-channel ISDN is exactly 64K? Analog phone lines are sampled at 8,000 samples/sec with 8 bits per sample, netting you exactly 64,000 bits/sec, or 64K. Those 8,000 samples/sec can, at a theoretical maximum, represent a 4 KHz tone; due to phase variances, however, this rarely happens.)

      Basically, if this thing works, it's not because it's a really high frequency noise.
    2. Re:Ringtone storage format? by LineNoiz · · Score: 1

      Umm.... The ring tone doesn't go through any phone lines or network... It gets transmitted to the phone as a .WAV or something, stored on the phone, then it comes right out of the speaker.

      Nice info, though...

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    3. Re:Ringtone storage format? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      What you say (about 22 to 24 kHz) is true for audio formats that store sampled sound, but how many ringtones are really sampled sound? Desktop computers these days all use sampled sounds, but lots of simpler devices (Palm OS for example) use a much simpler method that will be familiar to those who grew up with 8-bit computers (Apple ][, Commodore 64, TI99-4/A, Atari 2600, etc.). What you get is an oscillator and a software interface that allows you to turn on and off the oscillator and set its frequency. Sometimes you get something a little more advanced, like the ability to do simple FM synthesis or generate white noise. I strongly suspect most cell phones use this sort of approach. I've never noticed one producing a sampled sound; it's always that tweedly, one-voice bastardization of Beethoven's 5th or something.

      Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised if (read: "I'm going to wildly speculate that") there is a 16-bit register somewhere that lets you set the frequency in Hz. Which might give you an upper limit of 65535 Hz.

      Probably the amp can reproduce 65535 Hz, but whether the speaker can is another question. If the cell phone has a separate piezo element for ringing, there's a sorta decent chance it can hit that tone. If, on the other hand, it uses the same speaker as it does for conversations, it's probably not going to get anywhere near there. Cell phones have no reason to be engineered to make tones that high, but it's not an especially hard thing to do, so it's possible that it can happen.

      My point with all this? I don't think you can necessary discount the possibility of making a reasonably loud, say, 40 kHz tone with a cell phone. Whether this particular phone can or can't is another question, and whether it would repel mosquitos if it did is yet another question.

    4. Re:Ringtone storage format? by wfberg · · Score: 2, Interesting


      What format are ringtones stored in that they can represent tones beyond the range of human hearing?


      Usually MIDI, or a proprietary format. I'm having lots of fun downloading and playing MIDI files on my SonyEricsson T310 phone. It supports up to 32 channels, and doesn't sound all that crap, actually. I wonder how long it will take for musicians to hijack mobiles and use them as fully fledged MIDI synthesizers. For that "sounds of the naughties" feeling!

      Anyone know the MIDI chip in the SE T310? The trumpets and bells sound very clear (the other instruments are sometimes a bit muddy). Sounds better than the windows XP MIDI mapper anyway ;-)

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    5. Re:Ringtone storage format? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
      phone network can only handle frequencies up to about 4 KHz -- so why would a cell phone maker bother trying to make their speaker reproduce frequencies above that?

      They aren't just used for calls now. My cell phone can play mp3s in stereo through headphones, or mono from the speaker. It's pretty loud, compariable to a similar sized radio. Very good when staying in hotels etc.

    6. Re:Ringtone storage format? by Patrick · · Score: 1
      Sometimes you get something a little more advanced, like the ability to do simple FM synthesis or generate white noise. I strongly suspect most cell phones use this sort of approach. I've never noticed one producing a sampled sound; it's always that tweedly, one-voice bastardization of Beethoven's 5th or something.

      FM synthesis is still going to be limited by the DAC's frequency range and by the response curve of the DAC and the speaker. If expensive desktop sound cards tail off at 24KHz, do you really expect cell phones to faithfully reproduce 40KHz?

      Desktop computers these days all use sampled sounds, but lots of simpler devices (Palm OS for example) use a much simpler method

      Hey, not all PalmOS devices are limited to crappy FM synth. My Clie SJ-33 has a 16-channel wavetable synth and 44.1KHz sampled sound. It plays MP3s -- rock on. But I still wouldn't expect it to handle 40KHz tones.

    7. Re:Ringtone storage format? by Patrick · · Score: 1
      Usually MIDI, or a proprietary format.

      MIDI's note range is from 0-127, with 60 being middle C. I believe that gives it a high end of the G 5.5 octaves above middle C, which would be about 12.5KHz. So MIDI isn't representing any inaudible pest-repelling tones. Not even with pitch bending.

    8. Re:Ringtone storage format? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      it's probably just a hoax to get your money, i'm not sure where the 'standard'(nokia beep) format tops out at though, buti highly doubt it would have anything inaudible in it's range.. and midi is out of question in this too. mosquitos are just so annoying people will try ridiculous stuff. though i would be really pissed to order a ringtone and then examine the ringtone to be empty (bytewise).

      the things that work are: eat antihistamins(they reduce the itching effect), use the sprays, use the smoking candles/smokers.

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  38. They'd be great by freek_daddy · · Score: 1

    .. but they don't work. Back to DEET for me.

  39. Questions and comments about the "Noise Service" by GillBates0 · · Score: 1
    Can't believe Washington Post posted such a badly written article:

    Title: Noise From Phone Can Chase Mosquitoes

    (away?)

    it will offer cell phone users a new noise service that it says will repel mosquitoes.

    Noise service?

    The service, which begins Monday, has one drawback: it consumes as much battery power as normal cell phone rings.

    What exactly is this sentence supposed to mean? Does the ringer always play in the background? If so it should consume more power than occasional phone rings. If it indeed consume only as much power as phone rings, why is it a drawback?

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  40. Crapola by Reality+Master+101 · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Straight Dope has the full scoop on ultrasonic insect repellents. In short, they're a scam.

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    1. Re:Crapola by srvivn21 · · Score: 1
      Some ultrasound firms say their products will also repel mice, rats, roaches, bats, fleas, spiders, and the like. The evidence to date suggests these claims are greatly exaggerated. At best they work only when used in conjunction with a concerted anti-pest program involving traps, improved sanitation, elimination of entry points and nesting places, and so on. So don't throw away that flyswatter yet.


      And one of them has gotten in trouble for making such claims...
  41. Progress by The+Bungi · · Score: 1

    Why, in my day, we used a can of Raid! And cancer fears aside, we enjoyed it!

  42. Forget that by sulli · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Use full strength Muskol and you'll be bite-free! (A great Canadian invention.)

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    1. Re:Forget that by heli0 · · Score: 1

      Muskol FAQ
      "What is DEET?
      DEET (N, N diethyl-m-toluamide), developed in the 1940s by the U.S. government, is a broad spectrum insect repellent. DEET is a common active ingredient in most insect repellents and is unsurpassed when it comes to bug protection. By testing DEET against a variety of biting insects, scientists have established the superior repellent properties of DEET under numerous climatic and environmental conditions."


      More like a great American invention ;)

      What is the % DEET they use in the full strength version?

      Here in the US it seems that "OFF! Deep Woods" with 25% DEET is about the highest I've seen.

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    2. Re:Forget that by sulli · · Score: 1

      As I recall Muskol is pretty damn close to 100% DEET. That strength may not be sold in the US anymore - but I'm pretty sure they still sell it that strong in Canada. (Serious mosquitoes up there.)

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    3. Re:Forget that by Art+Tatum · · Score: 1

      I seem to recall reading that Canadian railroad workers had only a few seconds to cover themselves with a blanket when a swarm of mosquitoes came along--or face being completely devoured by them. The horses were simply abandoned to the insects.

    4. Re:Forget that by freeweed · · Score: 1

      Muskol *spray* is anywhere between 25 and 40% DEET, depending on the type. There's a liquid form that's damn close to 100% (95% with 5% DEET isomers).

      Note however, that increasing DEET concentration is an excersize in diminishing returns. Going from 40% to 100% DEET gives you less than an hour of extra mosquito repellent time.

      Considering the jury's still out on the safety of DEET (personally, I'll take the risk, I live in Manitoba :), using 100% DEET is probably not in your best interest, when you consider what little benefit it offers. Yes kids, just like the Mhz myth, DEET concentration isn't the whole story.

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  43. problems? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) Inaudable to humans: um its a ring tone.

    2) repels mosquitos: for the whole five seconds my phone rings before i pick it up. oh wait i cant hear it (see 1) so i guess this does work as people spam your phone trying to call you.

    3) arent mosquitos attracted to light sources? wouldnt the little blinking light on ones phone (or whole display) counter this effect?

    a wonderful link about mosquitos link

  44. These Ringtones Will Attract You! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  45. a more effective model by updog · · Score: 1

    How about instead, designing a cellphone that squirts out DEET when it rings?

  46. Mosquito Repellant Tests by heli0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Does anything other than N,N-diethyl-3-methylbenzamide(DEET) really repel mosquitos?

    It seems that every time they conduct these tests (just in time for mosquito season) the only products that do anything are the ones containing DEET, and the products using citronella, peppermint oil, baby oil, etc. are useless.

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    1. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, I always wonder where they find those people to stick their arms in the boxes full of mosquitos.

    2. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by Otterley · · Score: 1

      Mosquitos are attracted to CO2. If you can somehow place a large enough CO2 generator nearby that will attact the mosquitos to it (and drown/kill them within) instead of you, then you'll have a winner.

    3. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by heli0 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Here is a pretty thorough study:

      Comparative Efficacy of Insect Repellents against Mosquito Bites

      and here is a table that shows the results: Protection Times of Insect Repellants

      Seems Soybean Oil(2%) can protect for 90 minutes, Citronella(10%) for 20 minutes and DEET(24%) for 5 hours.

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    4. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by wowbagger · · Score: 1

      If you can somehow place a large enough CO2 generator nearby that will attact the mosquitos to it (and drown/kill them within) instead of you, then you'll have a winner.


      You mean, like this?
    5. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't that just attract all of the mosquitos that were too far away to detect YOUR CO2?

    6. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1

      I saw a larger version about a year ago that was supposedly big enough to clear a large field of Scotish midges, which are like mosquitos with tamer bite, but they make up for it in volume of bites.

    7. Re:Mosquito Repellant Tests by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      theres some other stuff used around here, i can't remember the actual name and since they're not a problem in my apartment i don't have any nearby, but they can be a real bitch.

      something-tolu-something is other and pyrethrin is other, pyrethrin is 'natural' and does work wonders on smoking thingys.

      btw, this has been one bitch of a summer with mosquitos.

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  47. there's something wrong here... by carambola5 · · Score: 2, Insightful
    The ringtone, inaudible to humans...

    from the defeating-the-original-purpose-of-actually-hearing -the-phone-ring dept.

    Brilliant, guys. Simply stellar.
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  48. Just FYI by Ted_Green · · Score: 5, Funny

    I made that up.

    1. Re:Just FYI by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I was 78.29% sure you did.

    2. Re:Just FYI by danny256 · · Score: 1

      I made that up.

      Yet your moderation score keeps rising, go slashdot!

    3. Re:Just FYI by Aliencow · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is seriously the most intelligent funny post I've ever read. Congrats.

    4. Re:Just FYI by MattCohn.com · · Score: 2, Funny

      5 Informative followed by a 5 Funny. Damn lad, I think you hit the karma jackpot!

    5. Re:Just FYI by Esion+Modnar · · Score: 1

      Damn. Imagine an EMP generator set up to kill/confuse mosquitoes. Sure, it causes blackouts within a half mile radius, but at least it screws with the skeeters.

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  49. CowboyNeal's voice IS my ringtone by Eberlin · · Score: 1

    or better yet, I don't own a cellphone you insensitive clod!

    No, wait...this isn't the survey area! I should've taken that left turn at Albuquerque

  50. Don't work by Nick+Number · · Score: 4, Informative

    Check out what Cecil has to say.

    I'm not going to answer your last question, H., because ultrasonic mosquito repellers all have one thing in common: none of them work. At all.
    [snip]
    Some ultrasound firms say their products will also repel mice, rats, roaches, bats, fleas, spiders, and the like. The evidence to date suggests these claims are greatly exaggerated. At best they work only when used in conjunction with a concerted anti-pest program involving traps, improved sanitation, elimination of entry points and nesting places, and so on. So don't throw away that flyswatter yet.

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  51. Now if only I can get a Brown Noise ring tone by ad0gg · · Score: 1

    What funny that would be.

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  52. 2600 by inertia187 · · Score: 1

    Just for the fun of it, someone should come up with the bluebox tone as a ringer. The redbox sounded pretty cool too.

    Not that there's any use for that sort of thing these days...unless you find youself on an old 1ESS switch...even then.

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  53. Hey, Doofus by Khakionion · · Score: 1, Informative
    Quoth the English Description:
    2. This program can work with Windows 95 / 98 / Me. But it cannot run on Win2k / XP
    This description says answer. Most ones read things. For you to ponder, great feelingness!
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    1. Re:Hey, Doofus by McNeany · · Score: 0

      If you actually take the time to dicypher which is the correct download; you will find that there is a multi os version. Its a zip file download with three versions contained within. 1 a Linux version 2 a win 2000\XP text menu only version (works fine) and a GUI version that will not work on @K or XP. Just thought you might like to look a little deeper before you call someone a doofus. -Peace-

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  54. What was that? by DA_MAN_DA_MYTH · · Score: 1

    Now if only there was a ringtone to repel bugs in code! Sorry, I'm full of bad jokes today.

    Just today Neal?

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    "It takes many nails to build a crib, but one screw to fill it."
  55. Ahem by loadquo · · Score: 1

    Cough** superior **cough. Well according to SOED anyway. I'd be interested to see a dictionary quote, to back up the spelling, my brief foray onto google prooving fruitless.

    I'm not normally a spelling Nazi, but your sig is asking for it.

    1. Re:Ahem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Pfft.

      People in Mensa are, without exception, elitist pricks with delusions of relevance.

      Ignore her.

    2. Re:Ahem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be such a yank, you jackass. You do realize that some words are spelled differently in the UK, right? Ever read Tolkien? Notice the spelling of things like colour, favourite, etc.?

      So you googled it, eh? Did you notice that there were indeed hits? Did you then notice that all the hits were UK based?

      Want a dictionary reference? Try a Brittish one.

      I don't usually flame, but man, you're an idiot.

    3. Re:Ahem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, superior is not spelt with a U anywhere in the world. The google hits are all due to incorrect spelling, and by the way, YHBT. Mensa babe is well known as an unfunny slashtroll. ( nice work with the "brittish", though).

    4. Re:Ahem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He did use a "Brittish" dictionary. SOED = Shorter Oxford English Dictionary.

    5. Re:Ahem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      SOED = Stanford Online English Dictionary

  56. Ding! by NanoGator · · Score: 1

    Now if only there was a ringtone to repel bugs in code!"

    There is. It's called 'chord.wav'. Stupid sound plays every time there's an error in my code. I'm too lazy to go into Windows settings and change the sound, tho.

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    "Derp de derp."
  57. Re:Marcel Marceau Calling.... by Grrr · · Score: 1

    How about Googling next time, instead of butchering the spelling of the poor guy's name ?

  58. Lilo & Stitch :) by jagilbertvt · · Score: 1

    Oh, we have to gas the planet.
    Hold it!
    Hold everything!
    Earth is a protected wildlife preserve.
    Yeah. We've been using it
    to rebuild the mosquito population
    which, need I remind you, is an endangered species!

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    And another one! Why, it's a whole flock.
    And they like me!
    They're nuzzling my flesh with their noses.
    Now they're, um, they're....

  59. "A ringtone you can't hear" by Pac · · Score: 1

    Do you think there a chance for an massless invisible insecticide, without odour or any visible sensation, to fly over there? I mean, I think I know a country where we can buy lots of empty used spray cans...

    1. Re:"A ringtone you can't hear" by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      Yes I think you could do it. I was just talking about this with my wife and something about an entire country of people potty trained at ~1 year leads to all kinds of strange things. :)

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      Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
  60. Bwahahahahahaha by Mayak · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    The only bugs in your computer good sir, are purely jokes with wings that whimsically buzz about Slashdot spreading their hilarious bug-joy to all! Your comedic throw-downs have left me ramshackle and quivering with all the glee of a playful cricket! 'Maybe I should just leave it on top of my computer then...'??? Absolute genius. And, 'Has Microsoft heard of this technology?' You rapscallion you! Someone set you up the hive and your giggling bees are stinging us in the face with barbs of laughter. I assume you meant this not to ward bugs away from poor Microsoft employees milling about the campus. Your mirth runs far deeper than that, doesnt it friend? Oh yes. If I may say, between laugh-spasms, you refer to Microsoft software as having bugs! LOLLOLLOL! Proverbial icing on the cake good chap! I have made my decision. I am bookmarking this post for future reference. Should I ever thirst for a good-old fashioned laugh with a Microsoft slag thrown in for good measure, I will be sure to navigate to this hyperlink of joy you have so kindly immortalized here on Slashdot proper. Mods, mod this wandering minstrel of mirth +5 Dancing-Bees-of-Funtimes!

    1. Re:Bwahahahahahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dear Sir or Madam:

      I regret to inform you that it has come to the attention of our agents at the World Health Organization that your post is so funny as to be in violation of international treaty. A study conducted by our investigators conclusively indicates that fits of laughter caused by your jokes induce suffocation, burst arteries, and wetting in over 10% of all viewers. Thus, your post has been classified as a weapon of mass destruction. Please cease your comedy immediately, for the good of humanity.

      Sincerely yours,
      Dr Gro Harlem Brundtland, Director-General of the World Health Organization
      http://www.who.int

  61. It there a ring tone that will make females... by Dumbush · · Score: 2, Funny

    bug me?

    1. Re:It there a ring tone that will make females... by NoData · · Score: 2, Funny


      yeah, i believe it's called the "diamond" ring.

      (ducks)

  62. Palm Pilot by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    What about an application for the Palm Pilots? That tiny speaker should be good enough to reproduce high pitch sounds, right?

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    1. Re:Palm Pilot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the Palm OS sound API lets you request sounds up to 2.14 gigahertz. Just where an individual device's actual hardware tops out is another question...

    2. Re:Palm Pilot by elal1862 · · Score: 0

      I've actually made such application, which tries to emulate different reverse-engineered commercial appliances(!).
      But... it's a serious drain on the batteries (the speaker's impedance is frequency-dependant). And eh... don't expect miracles, its effectiveness is worse than 'non-toxic' bug spray!

  63. Oh great! by raytracer · · Score: 1

    Oh, great I always wanted a ringtone THAT I CAN'T FREAKIN' HEAR!!!!

    It's really great the the MOSQUITOS can hear 'em!

    Bzzzzzt! [ Swats at mosquito ] Bzzzzzt! [ Swats again ] BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT! [ Answers Cell Phone ]

    "Oh, it's for you..."

  64. This will go perfectly... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...with the rock I purchased to repel tigers.

  65. Er by vigilology · · Score: 1
    The ringtone, inaudible to humans, has a range of three feet, and functions just like any other ring-tone from your cell.

    ...except that it's inaudible. I don't know about you, but my ringtones are audible.

  66. inaudible ring tone by frovingslosh · · Score: 2, Funny
    The ringtone, inaudible to humans, has a range of three feet, and functions just like any other ring-tone from your cell.

    Just what everyone needs, a ring tone that is inaudible and repells mosquitoes only when the phone rings. How are you expected to answer the phone, whit until the bugs stop attacking you and decide from that someone must be calling?

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  67. Solution: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a job and MOVE OUT! you stupid whiny fuck

  68. I doubt it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think a cell phone is more likely to give mosquitoes brain cancer than to repel them.

  69. You want a Tasp. by RatBastard · · Score: 1

    What you want, sonny, is a Tasp. A hort, sharp, shock to the pleasure center of the brain and she (or he, if that's your pleasure) will be yours.

    Just don't point it at a Kzin. He'll rip out your heart and eat it in front of your dieing eyes.

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  70. Bugs? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Now if only there was a ringtone to repel bugs in code!

    It's a much needed Slash feature.

    Now if you could only find one to repel trolls.

  71. my current ringtone repels bears by AssFace · · Score: 1

    Seriously, I haven't been attacked and mauled by bears in the entire time that I've had my phone set on this ringtone.

    I don't mean to brag, but the ringtone was built into the phone - I didn't have to pay anything extra for it.

    I have a Nokia 8890 if anyone else also wants a phone that repels bear attacks.
    I haven't tested it in the deep woods, and I have most recently lived in Boston where bear attacks are an incredibly frequent ofccurace (if you don't have this phone). Now I live in Bermuda and I have continued my streak of non-bear attack days.

    I'll bet it is probably in other Nokia phones too since they share a lot of the common ringtones.

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  72. Shocker by FireMotion · · Score: 2, Funny

    They should combine this phone with Sony VIAO's electric shock laptop (a few articles earlier.

    But it should attract insects and then shock them. Then there's no need to recall all those laptops too.

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  73. 3 Annoying Feet? by agent+dero · · Score: 2, Funny

    but annoys mosquitoes within a range of three feet

    I annoy my little cousin, it doesn't repel him

    Also, 3 FEET! That means it will protect my upper body, and leave my lower body for the wolves?
    I mean, not even the average asian is 3 feet. At least 5, meaning 2 feet are getting screwed.

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  74. I don't want to repel by AssFace · · Score: 1

    I don't want a phone that repels anything.

    I want a phone that makes me a magnet for hot easy women.

    it should ring and then I find myself at the bottom of a pile of mini-skirt clad, top heavy bimbos.

    And ideally the sound is also an aphrodesiac, so that by the time I get out from the pile of skank, they're ready for hot sweaty action.

    I'd pay more than $2.50 for that.

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    There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
    1. Re:I don't want to repel by EllF · · Score: 1

      A tip: referring to them as "bimbos" decreases your chances of actually getting near a woman who didn't just empty your wallet for 30 minutes rather unlikely.

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    2. Re:I don't want to repel by AssFace · · Score: 1

      as long as I can refer to them as sluts, skanks, bitches, whores, cum dumpsters, and cunts... then I guess I can live without using the word "bimbo"

      thanks for the tip!

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      There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
  75. Any Hope for a Moonie, JW or Hara Krishna Repelant by ac7xc · · Score: 1

    I'm sick of them knocking on my door or hitting me up a the airport.

  76. Anti-Mal 2.0 by HyperColor+Underware · · Score: 1

    Yes, there is software called Anti-Mal 2.0, it is working fine now on Windows XP, you have to run it in compatibility mode. Any luck with the portable device, let me know...

  77. Good old fashioned bug spray by MadHobbit · · Score: 1

    Well, I'm in Winnipeg, and we have what's generally considered to be the worst mosquitoes in Canada, and among the worst in North America. And you don't see people carrying ultrasonic gadgets, or stringing up bug zappers, simply because they don't work.

    What does? A good insect repellant (with deet). That's about it. The city larvicides to keep the counts down, and fogging works great (but a lot of people are worried about the malathion we use). This would be a waste of $2.50, though I support anything that makes cell phones inaudible :)

  78. Re:Marcel Marceau Calling.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Easy, Grr, Easy! No need to get all defensive about it!

  79. IN SOVIET RUSSIA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mosquitoes repel you!

  80. Dog Whistle by Capital_Z · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think some smart ass cell phone employee should have all their company's cell phones emit the same frequency as a dog whistle. Just think what hell would break loose...

  81. A quick google search... by digital+photo · · Score: 2, Funny

    Seems a quick google search is all it takes... and few do it... -_-;;

    Sound based repellers don't work. Period. End of story. Combine that with the fact that CelPhones' earpieces and speakers produce sound in the 20hz-22000hz range... this is being generous as most are more like 50hz-18000hz. Most, if not all of which is audible to humans. At the point where the volume is turned down below what you can hear, it ain't there.

    Citronella doesn't really repel insects.

    Deet does, but is cancerous. (100% deet is still sold in California, btw.)

    Carbon dioxide will lure Mosquitoes... potentially away from you. Hence the dry ice in the corner of the backyard trick works.

    Skin So Soft, from what I can see online doesn't repel and the brand which they later produced which they claim does contains citronella... so it most likely doesn't.

    Seriously, a ringtone which repels bugs? If you're willing to pay for that, I've got a special soundfile which you can play which will repel con artsists: I'm broke. I've got no money.

  82. Its easy doing that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look the URL for example.

    .

  83. For a small fee of $2.50... by SharpFang · · Score: 4, Funny

    ...I'll send you a wonder inaudible dialtone that repels mosquitos, bears and Jehovah Witnesses, attracts women and money, makes people on crowded motorway drive off your way, reduces your body fat and makes you forever young. Additionally it's not only inaudible - its presence won't be shown on your phone in any way so no woman will find out you used this to attract it, and no mosquito will be attracted to shining display. Call now! 1-900-...

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    1. Re:For a small fee of $2.50... by gwayne · · Score: 1

      You forgot extends your penis 3" overnight...

    2. Re:For a small fee of $2.50... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sooo... you don't want to use it for more than a night or two? (Except for the extremely feeble out there)

  84. Re: Why not attrack and kill them? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's a product called sonicweb that attracts mosquitos with sound, heat, motion and scent, and then claims to kill them off when they get close enough. It doesn't use an oil or a scent to kill and it claims it can protect up to an acre.

  85. Not paranoia- malaria etc by SuperBanana · · Score: 2, Informative

    Korean's are *paranoid* about mosquitos I mean freaking irrational.

    Yeah, malaria(along with a dozen other various mosquito-born illnesses) can tend to make you that way.

    The difference between here and there is that most of the mosquitoes ARE carrying something- I remember there was a travel advisory about it at one point. Here in the US, you have a greater chance of winning the lottery than catching, say, West Nile disease, which the press has been beating to death("dead bird found!" "dead bird has west nile!" etc etc.)

    1. Re:Not paranoia- malaria etc by rizawbone · · Score: 1
      Here in the US, you have a greater chance of winning the lottery than catching, say, West Nile disease...

      That's pretty misleading.

      In the US you probably have a better chance of winning the lottery than being caught in a tornado - but ask anyone who's been in a tornado how safe it was. In the US you have a better chance of winning the lottery than getting sick on a ride at disneyland... but for everyone at disneyland that blanket statement no longer applies.

    2. Re:Not paranoia- malaria etc by SquadBoy · · Score: 1

      How many years have you lived in Korea?

      I clock in at 4. Trust me this goes far beyond rational precautions. When it has been below 0 for a week and you are worried about mosquitos it goes beyond a healthy rational fear. For many people from Korea it is a full on paranoia.

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      Cypherpunks: Civil Liberty Through Complex Mathematics. Those who live by the sword die by the arrow.
  86. Try Dry Ice -- CO2 attracts by squashed · · Score: 2, Informative
    It's CO2 that attracts them, from your exhilation.

    Dry Ice is the hot tip. Place a block in a remote corner of the area of your next outdoor grilling event, and you'll suffer nary a bite.

    1. Re:Try Dry Ice -- CO2 attracts by (H)elix1 · · Score: 1

      Dry Ice is the hot tip. Place a block in a remote corner of the area of your next outdoor grilling event, and you'll suffer nary a bite.

      My god does that explain why those blood sucking bastards torment me on the first leg of our camping trips. I'd freeze the steaks and slip in a chunk of dry ice so it would keep it cool without creating a huge mess. Not to mention any gel packs to carry out on the way home. /me shakes head for not connecting the dots.... Peter gets the food pack this year.

  87. This is absurd by hyrdra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    First of all, most cell phones store ringtones in a compressed PCM-like format, ADPCM, for instance. PCM sampling rates for most phones top out at around 22 KHz.

    The speakers in such phones also can't reproduce high quality sound in even the ranges they are rated in, and the quality, response and dbm it takes to drive the speakers drops off considerably as the frequency goes significantly below or beyond its rated frequency response. Piezo elements could do it but those are rated for a single frequency or set of frequencies and all but the oldest phones still have them (those don't support ring tones anyway).

    Perhaps they observed a different effect -- waving the phone in the air with the ring tone emmited will naturally rouse the insects.

    I'll stick to bug spray and avoid the swamp lands, thank you.

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    1. Re:This is absurd by jridley · · Score: 1

      Well, if the phone is completely incapable of producing these sounds, then this ringtone will be every bit as effective as any other ultrasonic pest repeller.

  88. The essence of nerd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They somehow have to find the "essence of nerd" (tm) which repels women, and reformulate its repelling properties for mosquitoes. I know that there's not many parallels between women and mosquitos, but they can both be blood-sucking pain in the necks.

  89. Mosquitos track thru CO2 by Agent+R · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mosquitos find their targets from the trail of carbon dioxide left behind by exhaling. So I have heavy doubts about this Korean invention working at all. What does work so far are those traps with their own CO2 generators. (But even then it is not perfect.)

    Those high frequency sound generators may repel mice and rats, but only for a short period of time. What happens is that their offspring will come back to re-infest the area. The difference between the off-spring and the parents is that the kiddie rodents will be born deaf. Rodents like roaches are highly adaptive. (Got that little tidbit of information from someone who used to work in the exterminator business.)

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  90. Sounds useful in Minnesota by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...don't ya know.

    I have a sound badge that claim to repel mosquitoes, but it doesn't work.

    I'm highly allergic to mosquitoes!

  91. Inaudible to humans by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Depending on your point of view, an inaudible ring tone could be a good thing or a bad thing.

  92. Ultrasonic? by sillydragon · · Score: 1

    Call me a pessimist, but I don't think your average cellphone is going to have a speaker capable of reproducing an ultrasonic ringtone...

  93. just imagine by Krashed · · Score: 1

    if one has a range of three feet, imagine what a beowulf cluster of these could do. build it big enough and set them up correctly, we could push the entire population into one area. that is until they adapt at which point we have adjust the sheild harmonics. i'll shut up now.

  94. Re:West Nile by gnarled · · Score: 1

    Don't down play West Nile virus too much. Yes, its threat to humans is way overblown, but it has had some major effects. Where I live there used to be a very big population of crows, so many that they were a nuisance. West Nile came last year and wiped them all out. I have not seen a single crow for a year. I would call that a serious impact.

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  95. Re:West Nile by Danse · · Score: 1

    Yeah, but Republican crows were probably in power at the time, so the crow healthcare system sucked.

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  96. Slight problem here... by Shoten · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Inaudible to humans" means one of three things...one, too low to be heard (in which case mosquitoes won't care, or two and three, infrasound and ultrasound, respectively. The problem with that is that a cell phone cannot generate sounds in those frequencies with any reliability...it's not designed to. Infrasound requires a huge driver, and if you've ever looked at those devices that supposedly drive away aggressive dogs with ultrasound you know what an ultrasound transducer looks like, and it's nothing like the piezoelectric speaker a cell phone contains for ringtones. This is just an example of what happens in countries with more relaxed consumer protection statutes.

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  97. This doesn't work... by PoisonousPhat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www-rci.rutgers.edu/~insects/proprom.htm

    "Products and Promotions That Have Limited Value for Mosquito Control: Electronic Repellers"

    "Hand-held electronic devices that rely on high-frequency sound to repel mosquitoes have become surprisingly popular in recent years. Prices range from $9.95 to $29.95 for units advertised in magazines. Heavy-duty repellers that claim to keep away spiders, hornets, and rats, in addition to mosquitoes may sell for more than $100.00. The manufacturer's rationale for using sound as a repelling factor varies from one device to the next. Some claim to mimic the wing beat frequency of a male mosquito. This, supposedly, repels females who have already mated and do not wish to be mated a second time. Others claim to mimic the sound of a hungry dragonfly, causing mosquitoes to flee the area to avoid becoming the predator's next meal. Most of the electronic repellers on the market hum on a single frequency. Top of the line devices allow for adjustment by the user to achieve the most effective frequency for the mosquito causing the problem. Scientific studies have repeatedly shown that electronic mosquito repellers do not prevent host seeking mosquitoes from biting. In most cases, the claims made by distributors border on fraud. Mated female mosquitoes do not flee from amorous males, and mosquitoes do not vacate an area hunted by dragonflies. Electronic mosquito repellers do little in the way of reducing mosquito annoyance."

    Plus, more mosquito info (like you care):
    http://www.njmosquito.org
    http://www.mosq uito.org/mosquito.html

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  98. Just a note by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    the cellphones of today where you buy ringtones aren't DRM crippled at all. They just don't give the tools you need to program stuff on them yourself. However, if one aquires such a tool, you can put your own ringtones, pictures, games, and whatever else you like on a phone.

    1. Re:Just a note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously parent was making a pop-culture reference that sorta bounced off your basketball-court-textured head...

  99. Actually by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

    Most phones I've seen use MIDI files. Many of them will take PCM data too, but the most popular format is MIDI. I suppose it would in theory be possable to command the synth to play a really high pitch. I can do it with my professional MIDI synth, no reason this one wouldn't act similar.

    Now as to if the sound would actually be reproduced, that's a differnt matter.

  100. Re:This is absurd--Korea not US/Europe by blastedtokyo · · Score: 1
    I have to call bullshit here. This phone is marketed in Korea not the US or Europe. Phones (up to two years old) in Japan and South Korea routinely have sampled ringtones so that you can have a hi-fidelity pop tune or your kid's voice as the ringtone.

    The speakers on these buggers are built strong. On my 3 year old phone, the speaker has a magnet powerful enough to wipe out credit cards if you keep themi n the same pocket as the phone :)

    Finally, in Asia, you can't avoid the swamplands--it's all swampland.

  101. Re:West Nile by Cplus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As someone who recently had West Nile I can honestly say that it was a pretty shitty (no pun intended) evening of cramps and fever. I'll take that anyday over paranoia and semi-constant exposure to the nasty potentially cancer causing chemicals in the majority of bug sprays. Oh, and once you've had West Nile you can't get it again.

    I live in Ontario and get to watch the constant commercials and news stories about the great threat of the mosquitoes. I do understand that certain segments of the population (the old, the young, the sick) should take precautions, but I don't like the fact that people are dumping chemicals in all of the standing water around to cut the mosquito population. My neighbour was dumping misc chemicals into the rainbarrel that he uses to water the lawn that his children play on. Paranoia kills common sense.

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  102. Ringtones Repel People by ticklemeozmo · · Score: 1

    why would i buy a ring tone that i can't even hear?

    I don't know, how about being considerate to other people? There's still always an idiot or four who leaves their phone on in the movie theatre/dinner/library/[insert other public place here]. I am about sick and tired of Joe Jerkoff and his friggen Ring-Tone-Of-The-Week.

    This is brilliant! I am buying stock in this company. Those stupid enough to not remember to shut their ringers off in public places should be forced to have this.

    Yes, I can understand if the cellphone is in a backpack. But if it's in a pocket on your person or hanging off the belt, there should be no excuse (other than being a parapalegic and not being able to feel your legs) should have that stupid ass ringer on.

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    1. Re:Ringtones Repel People by lvdrproject · · Score: 1

      Heh. I can turn my ringer off for free. Unless there are massive mosquito problems in Korea, i really don't see the use in this. Why would you go, like, hunting or hiking or whatever, and take your cell phone with? Isn't the idea of those activities to... get away from stuff like cell phones?

  103. If you read the press release carefully... by branchingfactor · · Score: 2, Funny

    you will see that "the company claimed that the service worked during tests." What is "the service"? The ability to download a special inaudible sound wave and play it by hitting a few buttons on the mobile phone. That is the service they are providing, and its not too hard to believe that it worked during testing. Unfortunately they are not providing you with an anti-mosquito service.

  104. Re:This is absurd--Korea not US/Europe by glesga_kiss · · Score: 1
    The PCM ringtones are the sampled ones. Most phones stick to the standard 44.1kHz, 22kHz and 11kHz samplerates, and as such cannot reproduce sounds higher than 22kHz, 11kHz and 5.5kHz respectively. (other posters have pointed this out in other threads). It's NyQuist sampling theorem, an important factor in analogue to digital conversion techniques.

    CDs use 44kHz as the human ear generally doesn't go above 20kHz. Vinyl purists will argue that one though...

  105. West Nile mortality rate by yerricde · · Score: 1

    Oh, and once you've had West Nile you can't get it again.

    This is especially true of those who die of the disease. West Nile disease takes the life of an estimated one out of every eight patients who show symptoms. Most of these fatalities occur in immunocompromised individuals such as the elderly.

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    1. Re:West Nile mortality rate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmmmmmmmm, perhaps it's a thinning of the herd? These things happen in nature all the time, don't be scared...if it's you someone will miss you.

  106. More like MIDI by yerricde · · Score: 1

    It gets transmitted to the phone as a .WAV or something

    Actually, ring tones on the phones I've used seem to be stored as a sequence of pitches and durations, sort of like a .mid file.

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  107. Red Box Ring Tone? by VValdo · · Score: 2, Funny

    you need to quickly find a payphone and call yourself? How will it work?

    Easy. Use a second cellphone with a ringtone that sounds like this.

    (Of course, you could just call yourself directly with THAT cellphone, but hey, we're trying to be convoluted here, right?)

    W

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  108. "You have 15 new messages" by spike+it · · Score: 1

    Sorry, honey, I didn't hear my phone ring when you called...but on the bright side, I didn't get any mosquito bites today!

  109. First Post! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    err, well except that overturned 18-wheeler on the westbound...

  110. RDRR by Pinguu · · Score: 1

    Sorry, I'm full of bad jokes today.
    I noticed.

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  111. I remember an old electronics project.... by N+Monkey · · Score: 1
    Mosquitos find their targets from the trail of carbon dioxide left behind by exhaling. So I have heavy doubts about this Korean invention working at all. What does work so far are those traps with their own CO2 generators. (But even then it is not perfect.)

    Those high frequency sound generators may repel mice and rats,

    I seem to remember reading the blurb that went with a DIY electronic mozzie repeller project, that said that the idea behind it was that the device mimicked the the frequency of the male mosquito. Since it's the pregnant female that bites, it was supposed to work because she would not want any more male company....

    IIRC, I later read another article that said these devices didn't work becaue the sound of the male just made the females more angry/aggressive which was counterproductive :-)

    Simon
  112. No you didnt but I am pretty sure I decoded it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No I think the answer is quite simpler then that and simple phisics. Take a hollow tube the dimensions of the 'straw' the mosquite uses to drink blood. Now treat it like you would a musical instrument. This is my theory on what would work. Can someone make some assumtions and figure out what the effective range is. DDT and chemicals fail but I believe attacking the structure of the mosquito is the way to go.

    Semiclosed tube: A tube with one end closed has ... harmonic structure. The possible wavelengths supported by this tube. Note that the fundamental has the relationship lamda = 4L. The sequence of wavelengths is given by

    wavelength = [(4L)/n] n= 1,3,5,7...
    fn = n/(4*L)*v = [n/(4*L)] *root(Ta) n= 1,3,5...

    f(frequency)= 1/wavelength
    L length of tube
    f frequency
    v = speed of sound in the air(local climate)
    Ta = absolute temperature of the air (am pretty sure its in kelvin)

    All right my memory of Physics is hazy so I will stick to theory and by god correct me. I have zilch knowledge of of the size of mosquito anatomy. For anyone else, what we are trying to replicate is The Tacoma Narrows Bridge Collapse a la musquito. Technically any speaker capable or producing a steady continious waveform on the derived frequencies should build a standing wave in the mosquito and maybe kill or make it go away at least. Please give me sugestions of practical devices we can turn to these purpouses. A trip to radio-shack or a local electronics store and some advice from the geers on slashdot should keep the price tag under $20.

  113. good hard data? by karlm · · Score: 1
    Can anyone point to some relatively unbiased scientific studies that show ultrasonic mosquito repellers or ultrasonic rodent repellers work?

    Then again, ever since I took wilderness survival merit badge at Tomahawk Scout Ranch, I got used to being bitten. I stopped wearing DEET when I realized it solvated the logo on our troop t-shirts and ruined other plastic items. The dirty oily feel of rubbing DEET into your skin is also pretty gross. I don't even get the slightest bump from being bitten by most varieties of mosquito any more. If you stop letting it bother you and accept it as a minor cost of enjoying the outdoors, your body somehow adapts.

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  114. Bad joke cont'd :) by Kosi · · Score: 1

    And to repell bugs in code, you'll have send it to a modem?!?

  115. Re:West Nile by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If everyone used one of these, Backyard Avenger, the mosquito population would be drastically cut. After two years of continuous use in a region, so many female mosquitos have been eliminated that the colonies take years to recover.

  116. The 'Skeeter Skat' by 87C751 · · Score: 1
    These devices have been around a while, and you're close about the function. The devices actually mimic a female mosquito, since the females avoid each other's company in favor of the typically horny male. I tried one out in Nome, Alaska in 1971. Now, Nome is famous for mosquitos that are big enough to stand flat-footed and shit in the back of a 2 1/2 ton dump truck, so the option to skip the DEET bath sounded good at the time. I have to say that the pager-sized Skeeter Skat (the device's trade name at the time) did cut down the number of bites I received. But while the females stayed away, I was surrounded by a dense cloud of males interested in the horny female I sounded like. And I'm talking dense! Dense like it was damn near impossible to breathe without inhaling a few dozen horny males.

    I think the Skeeter Skat managed to skip six times before finally sinking into the nearby river.

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  117. Female mosquitoes are deaf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There is just one problem with this idea: female mosquitoes -- the ones that bite -- are deaf. The major visible difference between males and females is the ears. Male mosquitoes have large, visible, ear parts but the females have none.

    In my part of the world, where the bugs carry you off if you go out without a baseball bat, you can see clouds of mosquitoes separated vertically, by gender. If you make the right sound, you will see the male cloud jump.

    At an outdoor party, one evening, a friend put two and two together and tried playing tones over a loud speaker to the bugs. For our mosquitoes, a tone of about 240 Hz would make the males swarm the loudspeaker. Maybe they thought it sounded like a female mosquito and tried to mate with it.

    It is just a shame it does not attract the ones that bite!

    1. Re:Female mosquitoes are deaf! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yea but your friend should continue to kill off the males!

      no males ==> no reproduction!

  118. there are no bugs! by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1

    they are all just random features!

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  119. Re:The 'Skeeter Skat' (SCNR) by i+chose+quality · · Score: 1
    Dense like it was damn near impossible to breathe without inhaling a few dozen horny males.
    like on a /.-convention?
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  120. Re:West Nile by Cplus · · Score: 1

    At what cost to the ecosystem? We've got to stop messing with nature and start living with it, thinking up intelligent alternatives to killing them in the same casual ways in which we kill ourselves.

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  121. Supposedly the CO2-based ones work by swb · · Score: 1

    I've been hearing about (and see more and more on sale) CO2 based mosquito traps that are supposed to actually be effective at controlling mosquitos.

    They burn propane to generate CO2, which is supposed to be a significant attractant of mosquitos. When the bugs get close, they get sucked in by a vacuum into a bag.

    A recent newspaper story about this said that there had been some studies overseas (er, outside the US) that showed some effectiveness of this and a lot of reliable anecdotel evidence that they worked.

    AFAIC nothing works better than staying indoors, long pants and DEET (although not necessarily in that combination).

  122. You seem to care more about nature than people. by Kedyn's+Crow · · Score: 1

    Mosquitoes have killed more people than all the wars in history combined. I for one would like to see this bloodsucking parasite eradicated as thoroughly as Smallpox

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    1. Re:You seem to care more about nature than people. by jimsum · · Score: 1

      Well, people are a part of nature, so I think you need to worry about both. I don't think it would be an ecological disaster if mosquitoes became extinct, but the byproducts of eliminating mosquitoes might.

      For example, the mosquito zappers that seem to be all the rage emit on the order of a pound of CO2 per day; which might possibly fuel global warming and a true disaster for nature (and people). I think it is quite likely that any method that could eliminate all mosquitoes would likely involve huge environmental problems.

      The smallpox case is different; it was eliminated (except in government labs) by preventing its spread. It might be possible to eliminate a given mosquito-borne disease like West Nile without a huge environmental impact, but I doubt we can eliminate the mosquitoes themselves; and if the past is any guide, just attempting to eliminate mosquitoes will screw things up.

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  123. what does work against skeeters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are CO2 traps.

    but not all the CO2 trap designs attract the same breed of mosquito!

    another inconvenient is that you have to set the trap at some distance from where you are, and the success rate depends on the concentration of the mosquito population.

    what would be great also, is if the government installed those traps in places where there's a lot of stagnant water, combined with mass-spraying of a bacteria that exclusively feeds on mosquito larvae (I recall some research done at the Université du Québec à Trois-Rivières).

    now for those of you who are worried about CO2 emissions and global warming, be aware that to be effective, a mosquito CO2 trap has to mimic the amount of emissions a human has. Too much emission and the mosquito isnt attracted.

  124. Coming Soon: The Brown Tone in your cell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's something i would like to see in a cellphone...

    everytime you get a call, everybody around shits themselves...

  125. Gardener's home remedy bug repellant by AnalogDiehard · · Score: 1
    I read in Farmer's Almanac years ago that if you're being pestered by bugs, then eat a clove of garlic and the aroma will repel them.

    I was chopping wood outside and there were a bunch of bees swarming around. Remembering the almanac, I went to the kitchen and ate some toast with this garlic butter I happened to have. Then I went back outside to finish my work, and did not see one single bee come near me. I could see them in the distance but they wouldn't come near me.

    It works.

    You can also plant a border of garlic around your garden to keep animals out. They don't like that smell.

    Now a clove of garlic might be overkill and would easily repel your friends too; but with the acute sense of smell that bugs have, garlic butter was enough.

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  126. cellphone ringtones by Stanleverlock · · Score: 1

    is it possible for me to patent a cellphone that "walla"
    presss a cell phone key or key sequence and swiss army knife style a fly swatter spring out to swats the little buggers with.

  127. Re:Marcel Marceau Calling.... by Knoxvill3 · · Score: 1

    How about Doh, and not being so grump about it.

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  128. Re:West Nile by Axiom_1 · · Score: 1
    Paranoia kills common sense.

    Download the new "Paranoia" collection of ringtones that not only repel common sense, they actually kill it!!! That's right, for only $9.95, you can lose any common sense you may have whenever your cell phone rings.

    With such ringtones as "Turn Your Cell Phone ON During the Movie", "Have Loud Conversations on a Crowded Bus", "Talk Over Your Cell During a Party", and "Sorry to Interrupt Our Meeting, but I Need to Take This Call", "Keep Bears at Bay With Your Phone", and "Send Text Messages to People In The Same Room", our selection can't be beat.

    Order yours today, and become the envy of all your friends.

  129. This also goes great with... by bedessen · · Score: 1

    This works very well in conjunction with those magnetic bracelets and anklets that increase your blood flow and heal your cancer, and those little magnets you put on your fuel line that give you a 300 m.p.g. carbuerator, and those cell phone antenna booster stickers to increase range, as well as that "airflow vortex" device that you put in your car's airfilter to create turbulence, and...

    (If by 'work' you mean separate a sucker from his money, of course.)