I find I use both actually. CLI is always faster for files I'm familar with (my home directory), always always always. I have never felt that something in my home directory would have been faster in a quality GUI.
Once I venture out of my home directory, I often feel much safer in a graphical representation. It allows me to internalize the files much faster than a CLI.
A healthy mix of the two is probably the best solution. If someone managed to append a floating bash window on finder, I would be in heaven.
I personally like not having to relearn how to drive my car every three years, every time the engine gets redesigned.
Why should I have to relearn how to use my computer every time the OS gets redesigned?
How many times have you sat down at a program and gone "omg this UI is horrible, had they just stuck with standard widgets I would be so much happier". This is the basic concept behind a standardized GUI. If all programs look/act the same way, one only has to use a program to accomplish the task, instead of learning how the makers of "Y" software feel a UI should work then starting to mold into that workflow.
If wanting to be productive and efficent is acting like a "Moron", then god forbid I say it, I am a Moron!
I have to ask, how do you copy more than one level deeper using drag and drop in explorer?
I've never been able to do that, I always spawn another window.
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I can think of several specific examples, and a few "iffy" ones off the top of my head. But citing examples wouldn't explain it well.
I think you would gain the apple Human Interface Guide. It's a free download at developer.apple.com (that might be wrong url, I use bookmarks). It's about a 2 hour read (assuming you know basic desktop usage already.. as you do) and it helps explain alot about how an interface should be designed.
I think the biggest thing to be learned from apple is the following.
Never impliment a new metaphor unless there is no way to fit the new technology into the old one. If you have to impliment a new meatphore, then make it build on the basics of the old metaphor, but make it clearly diffrent so as to avoid confusion.
A great example is how they handled CD burners, as they aern't a random access file the old meatphor didn't work as well. They built on the old metaphor to build temporary "virtual disks" then you burn them using the old metaphor.
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Uh looking like aqua and being aqua is prety much the diffrence between a pool of vodka looking like water and a pool of vadka being water.
Am disgusted. Unless she was acting contrary to her orders, there is no reason she should have any action taken against her.
It was a perfectly valid campaign, while funny and horribly made, there was nothing *ethically* wrong with what they did (does anyone get upset over 9/10 dentists... anymore?). I feel MS should come up with some stricter advertising policies if they feel this was in error, to take action against a worker just doing her job is unethical.
I really wish they'd just see that technology opens up new revenue streams faster than it closes them down.
Unlimited copyright and death penalty to offenders is the only way of ensuring such things happen, especially with the printing press.
People could always swap books in person, but now with the printing press in every town, the ability to copy the latest forms of media between two places is completly unprecedented due to it' unrestricted nature.
I don't see the world as a worse place for the printing press, and I doubt the internet would have such an effect. To claim anything else without support is absurd and pointless.
Gecko was used to develop mozilla (yes thats right, mozilla is rendered in gecko).
If they could make a web browser with it, I'm sure you could make a few other usefull apps..
Cannot resist the urge...
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It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: Minix is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Minix community when recently IDC confirmed that Windows accounts for less than a fraction of 0.01 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Minix has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Minix is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a nerd to predict Minix's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Minix faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Minix because Minix is dying. Things are looking very bad for Minix. As many of us are already aware, Minix continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. Minix X is the most endangered of them all, having lost 100% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Minix leader someguy states that there are 7 users of Minix. How many users of Minix X are there? Let's see. The number of Minix versus Minix X posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 1 to 0. Therefore there are about 7/0 = undefined Minix X users. Minix posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Minix X posts. Therefore there are about 7 users of Minix. A recent article put Minix at about 100 percent of the Minix market. Therefore there are (7+0) = 7 Minix users. This is consistent with the number of Minix Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles at MinixVille, abysmal sales and so on, Minix went out of business and was taken over by Linus T. who sell another troubled OS. Now Linux is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that Minix has steadily declined in market share. Minix is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Minix is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Minix continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Minix is dead.
Timeslices didn't decrease in said time, those have been prety constant for a while.
I seriously doubt we are going to be needing 1/10th second slices for quite a few years, and by that time I expect the kernel to run something in idle time to auto-tune the slices for my current workload average. Remember the higher HZ only improves "responsivness", it actually decreases system performance computation wise. There is a specific number that is best for every system at any particular time, and going above or below that number hurts performance.
I suggest you check again in a year and a half after they are getting cpu's from someone who isn't going bankrupt. It might work a little diffrently then.
there is really no apple tax anymore, do some price comparisons between dell and current apple offerings.
Remember the cpu's they are currently stuck with suck ass, but they aern't paying any less than dell is for the best cpu's they sell. It's not like they are charging 4k for a dual cpu 1.25G P4 (though from an OEM I'd expect to pay at least 3k for the system listed, upgrade the cpu's to top of the line P4's and it'd be well over 4k).
If you look at everything except the CPU and the components directly attached to it (buss etc), apple has some of the best machines on the market. As soon as they have a good CPU this "Apple Tax" will go away, the problem is right now they are paying a "Motorola tax" and they can't very well go and eat a loss on every system can they?
not to be rude, but are you an astroturfer? It was quite clear to anyone (at least from my cultural backround) that the origional post was sarcastic humor. It was also prety trollish (but funny at that). It just seems odd someone would turn it into a +microsoft rant.
Actually this will only effect the Hard disk access, which is exactly on par with every other desktop hard disk access. This would be equiv to upgrading to NTFS from Fat32's performance hit (Ie unless you run a file oriented database you wouldn't be able to tell)
The only place Apple currently lags is in the CPU, we all hope the Power4 will fix that, but it is true at present. Every other component is just fine, thats why offloading the UI rendering to the GPU caused such a dramatic speedup.
I could care less about the standard-ness of a new hip crappy language when the entire point of using it is so you can get spiffy bytecode, if that bytecode is proprietary crap that can be broken tomorow.
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Since the US does have the highest density of MS machines, one would expect the most zombies to be there.
(rimshot)
I find I use both actually. CLI is always faster for files I'm familar with (my home directory), always always always. I have never felt that something in my home directory would have been faster in a quality GUI.
Once I venture out of my home directory, I often feel much safer in a graphical representation. It allows me to internalize the files much faster than a CLI.
A healthy mix of the two is probably the best solution. If someone managed to append a floating bash window on finder, I would be in heaven.
Hmm... that gives me an idea..
*skips class tomorow*
I personally like not having to relearn how to drive my car every three years, every time the engine gets redesigned.
Why should I have to relearn how to use my computer every time the OS gets redesigned?
How many times have you sat down at a program and gone "omg this UI is horrible, had they just stuck with standard widgets I would be so much happier". This is the basic concept behind a standardized GUI. If all programs look/act the same way, one only has to use a program to accomplish the task, instead of learning how the makers of "Y" software feel a UI should work then starting to mold into that workflow.
If wanting to be productive and efficent is acting like a "Moron", then god forbid I say it, I am a Moron!
I have to ask, how do you copy more than one level deeper using drag and drop in explorer?
I've never been able to do that, I always spawn another window.
I can think of several specific examples, and a few "iffy" ones off the top of my head. But citing examples wouldn't explain it well.
I think you would gain the apple Human Interface Guide. It's a free download at developer.apple.com (that might be wrong url, I use bookmarks). It's about a 2 hour read (assuming you know basic desktop usage already.. as you do) and it helps explain alot about how an interface should be designed.
I think the biggest thing to be learned from apple is the following.
Never impliment a new metaphor unless there is no way to fit the new technology into the old one. If you have to impliment a new meatphore, then make it build on the basics of the old metaphor, but make it clearly diffrent so as to avoid confusion.
A great example is how they handled CD burners, as they aern't a random access file the old meatphor didn't work as well. They built on the old metaphor to build temporary "virtual disks" then you burn them using the old metaphor.
Uh looking like aqua and being aqua is prety much the diffrence between a pool of vodka looking like water and a pool of vadka being water.
:).
That was a nice analogy if I do say so myself
All LCD's today are easily viewable from the side. The only screen that still suffers from that effect is the projection screen (big screen TV).
Because the MS discounts to college students are put in place in order to audit the piracy that used to be horribly rampant in those enviroments.
Until it rusts of course....
Am disgusted. Unless she was acting contrary to her orders, there is no reason she should have any action taken against her.
It was a perfectly valid campaign, while funny and horribly made, there was nothing *ethically* wrong with what they did (does anyone get upset over 9/10 dentists... anymore?). I feel MS should come up with some stricter advertising policies if they feel this was in error, to take action against a worker just doing her job is unethical.
I really wish they'd just see that technology opens up new revenue streams faster than it closes them down.
Unlimited copyright and death penalty to offenders is the only way of ensuring such things happen, especially with the printing press.
People could always swap books in person, but now with the printing press in every town, the ability to copy the latest forms of media between two places is completly unprecedented due to it' unrestricted nature.
I don't see the world as a worse place for the printing press, and I doubt the internet would have such an effect. To claim anything else without support is absurd and pointless.
Gecko was used to develop mozilla (yes thats right, mozilla is rendered in gecko).
If they could make a web browser with it, I'm sure you could make a few other usefull apps..
It is now official - Netcraft has confirmed: Minix is dying
Yet another crippling bombshell hit the beleaguered Minix community when recently IDC confirmed that Windows accounts for less than a fraction of 0.01 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of the latest Netcraft survey which plainly states that Minix has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Minix is collapsing in complete disarray, as further exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a nerd to predict Minix's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Minix faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Minix because Minix is dying. Things are looking very bad for Minix. As many of us are already aware, Minix continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood. Minix X is the most endangered of them all, having lost 100% of its core developers.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
Minix leader someguy states that there are 7 users of Minix. How many users of Minix X are there? Let's see. The number of Minix versus Minix X posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 1 to 0. Therefore there are about 7/0 = undefined Minix X users. Minix posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of Minix X posts. Therefore there are about 7 users of Minix. A recent article put Minix at about 100 percent of the Minix market. Therefore there are (7+0) = 7 Minix users. This is consistent with the number of Minix Usenet posts.
Due to the troubles at MinixVille, abysmal sales and so on, Minix went out of business and was taken over by Linus T. who sell another troubled OS. Now Linux is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that Minix has steadily declined in market share. Minix is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If Minix is to survive at all it will be among OS hobbyist dabblers. Minix continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, Minix is dead.
Fact: Minix is dead
and NetBSD runs on it. Why am I not suprize by this?
I honestly think that they would try and port that thing to flea collars if they could get one with transistors...
It can be found here or here
The marriage of Mr. Potato Head and "Middle-class-white-houswife-3kids" Nurse Barbie, the new craze for Matel.
Timeslices didn't decrease in said time, those have been prety constant for a while.
I seriously doubt we are going to be needing 1/10th second slices for quite a few years, and by that time I expect the kernel to run something in idle time to auto-tune the slices for my current workload average. Remember the higher HZ only improves "responsivness", it actually decreases system performance computation wise. There is a specific number that is best for every system at any particular time, and going above or below that number hurts performance.
I suggest you check again in a year and a half after they are getting cpu's from someone who isn't going bankrupt. It might work a little diffrently then.
Just a thought...
Yeah, that is until they want more than 2GB of ram, which should be happenening sometime in the next 5 years...
"640k ought to be enough for anyone"
there is really no apple tax anymore, do some price comparisons between dell and current apple offerings.
Remember the cpu's they are currently stuck with suck ass, but they aern't paying any less than dell is for the best cpu's they sell. It's not like they are charging 4k for a dual cpu 1.25G P4 (though from an OEM I'd expect to pay at least 3k for the system listed, upgrade the cpu's to top of the line P4's and it'd be well over 4k).
If you look at everything except the CPU and the components directly attached to it (buss etc), apple has some of the best machines on the market. As soon as they have a good CPU this "Apple Tax" will go away, the problem is right now they are paying a "Motorola tax" and they can't very well go and eat a loss on every system can they?
YHBT
not to be rude, but are you an astroturfer? It was quite clear to anyone (at least from my cultural backround) that the origional post was sarcastic humor. It was also prety trollish (but funny at that). It just seems odd someone would turn it into a +microsoft rant.
~Ealar
Actually this will only effect the Hard disk access, which is exactly on par with every other desktop hard disk access. This would be equiv to upgrading to NTFS from Fat32's performance hit (Ie unless you run a file oriented database you wouldn't be able to tell)
The only place Apple currently lags is in the CPU, we all hope the Power4 will fix that, but it is true at present. Every other component is just fine, thats why offloading the UI rendering to the GPU caused such a dramatic speedup.
Thats great, what about the bytecode?
I could care less about the standard-ness of a new hip crappy language when the entire point of using it is so you can get spiffy bytecode, if that bytecode is proprietary crap that can be broken tomorow.
One wonders if there is really a community of MS developers older than 13 years old who would give away thier software anyway.
aye, I was just saying if they droped support for Apple that would perhaps be the nail in the coffin that starts their downfall.
It has to come sometime, I just hope it's sooner rather than later.