Yeah, but it'd allow you to mark that ISP as spamfree (or spam reduced) and let mails from it through filters, less real mail gets caught in filters and less spam is sent from that ISP which helps in keeping costs down.
So if a Microsoft System gets hacked, it's Microsoft users fault? And if a Linux system gets hacked, it's still Microsoft users fault? Sooo, basically everything is Microsofts fault?
Indeed, by telling them to cheer up, it's not so bad, you're belittling their pain and agony, which will probably make them feel a lot worse since it seems no one understands just what they're feeling. This is the case for mostly all forms of depression, support the person and help them see the positive things, but never try to bullshit them. There are always positive things around to point out, there's no need to invent them.
But being forced into positive thinking isn't that good either. While anyone can muster a smile, it doesn't mean they're amused. Having the extra weight of having to be happy happy happy might push a person deeper into a depression if they're inclined to go that way. Sometimes it is nice to simply sulk and be miserable, a longterm depression is an issue, to allow yourself the luxury of a bit of selfpity isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Do I prefer to pay money for good software rather than use some buggy unsupported hack? Hell yeah. Problem is, there's a lot of good, free, open source software for Linux. If you want to sell something to that crowd, it better be damn good.
ahem...that would be "on screen", not "Engage", please do not confuse the two. However, having a vibrating bed respond to "Warp speed X, Engage!" would just be too damn cool. And by cool I mean not cool at all, but nerdy, but nerdy in a good way.
Would you? If I decide to stop using the web, how will I find out when a patch is released if I don't have a browser? Call a friend and ask him to look for it, download it, burn to CD, come over, and install it... Or, I take the risk that nothing will happen, go about business as usual and patch when a patch is out. Guess which option 99.99% will opt for.
If I can't do crap about fixing it, what should I do, stop using the www? What other browser is secure to use as a replacement? Lynx?
Yeah sure it's great to find out there's a bug, but, I'm gonna bet that 95% of users on the internet couldn't care less about what software they use as long as it gets the job done.
Geeks care about what software they use, geeks also make sure they have the latest version by visiting the sites now and then and by reading tech news, then it doesn't matter if they use IE, Opera, Mozilla, Netscape, Lynx, Mosaic or if they hold the ethernet cable to their tongue to read webpages, geeks will make sure to have the latest version and all relevant patches.
An insecure browser is an insecure browser, whether it's made by MS or not is irrelevant.
Assuming this is real...
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I see 2 things that ESR missed or didn't address and emphasize enough:
IP rights, expect a heavy assault from MS and other organisations interested in IP rights against OSS, if you have code in your app that might infringe on someone elses copyright, or anything else that might be an IP issue, get it outta there now. They're moving from FUD to lawsuits, be prepared.
The self delusion, MS, instead of addressing the issues head on, write around them to make MS come out in a better light. Example: That only a few percent are very positive towards Shared Source should be written in bold red letters, MS should address that, not try to hide it since 2% approval simply means Shared Source will fail. Trying to make yourself come of well in an internal memo is insane and delusional, who's there to pat you on the back? There's no point in using marketing speak when addressing yourself.
That is something that makes me doubt the validity of the document...
Finally, a suggestion: Don't complain about MicroSoft's flaws, praise Open Source accomplishments and features instead.
Yeah, imagine that, the Evil MS notifies customers that an update is avaliable, but the wonderful Mozilla organisation has people visiting the site looking for an updated version or patch. I know that my family at least finds that much easier because they have a deep interest in what web browser they use to browse the interweb...
If you're gonna complain about MS, at least use a valid argument, god knows there's a lot of them, but the kneejerk whining about MS being evil doesn't really do any good for anyone.
This is so that in the future, VotingSystem 2.0, you won't actually have to vote. We (The Powers That Be(tm)), already know how you will vote based on your tax report, creditcard purchases and library checkouts and will add your vote automatically. We ask that you not cause a scene as we implement this system, we know what we're doing and rest assured we're doing what's best for you and your interests, thank you.
I really truly despise the view that CG is to make movies cheaper, IMO CG should be used to make movies BETTER. Remember Jurassic Park? Terminator 2? Both examples were CG was used to create spectacular effects that couldn't be made any other way.
Nowadays...CG is a cheap solution, that's why we see "explosions" that look like Office Clipart pasted on top of an object in MS Paint...
That's what he should've been doing here. Some of his "tech from a normal persons view" articles were actually quite entertaining and well written. General technology articles and media commentary, sure. Problem was he attempted some socio-political commentary aswell as some in-depth technical stuff on Slashdot without being able to pull it off.
Widespread? Hardly. In Europe entire cities were reduced to rubble, millions and millions again killed, by nazis, by allies, by starvation, by disease. Imagine the WTC and Pearl Harbor a thousand times over and you'll start to get close.
I'm not trolling or reducing WTC or Pearl Harbor to events wihtout meaning, but, Europes past is filled of bloody wars every couple of years, and yet it took the insane slaughter of WW2 to get us to realize that it really wasn't getting us anywhere.
Ah good point, but IF military action is taken, it's not enough to simply remove saddam, the entire government employed staff needs to be looked at, every cache of arms that could pose a threat be destroyed, a new system of government needs to be made, new police, new army etc etc etc. Basically, little will remain of the old Iraq except for the people and the borders. Therefore it will be a war on the nation, not against a person.
IF action is taken, it must be such that no one will have to go back and redo it again 10 years from now.
Contrary to popular american beliefs, Europe is NOT pro-Iraq, we're just not as keen on resorting to force nowadays since we saw the result of it at home. The US hasn't in modern times seen widespread destruction on home turf, we still remember it vividly.
If the US could prove to European leaders (and European population) that Iraq is indeed the threat the US makes it out to be, then I'm sure European nations would also support military action and possibly be a part of it, as most have stated, they want a UN mandate first. But, the "He dun tried to kill mah paw" argument isn't that convincing on the European side of the pond.
Yeah, sound like a plan, keep in mind how the courts work though, there ain't no such thing as a ridiculous claim nor a frivolous lawsuit anymore. So what you gonna do when you end up with a newborn babe in your arms...
Yeah, I remember the days when nerds were outcasts in society, nowadays, since nerds are cool, I'm invited to party with hot co-eds and cheerleaders all the time!
You mean IBM, a large multinational company, isn't just out to do good? They actually use the best tools out there to make a profit without considering their moral obligation to stubbornly pick an OS and stick with it in religious conviction? Oh the horror! Won't someone please think of the children!
Yeah! And if we're lucky we'll see it evolve into a one party system and there will not be any reason for all the petty bickering that hinders progress at the moment, that's when democracy will finally be true democracy, one man, one vote, one party!
Why do american "patriots" so often feel the need to blindly defend the U.S? Saying that the marks are irrlevant, that the european press is more evil and not free at all, and it's some damn liberal plot again.
I thought that patriotism meant love for ones country, not for ones goverment, I thought a patriot of a democracy was supposed to always question anything that might infringe on his freedom or that of others. But it seems that whenever an article like this is seen in the news, the american "patriots" refuse to question their goverment or their nations policy, instead they stand up behind it no matter what and dismiss the criticism as some foreigners and/or liberals having their panties in a bunch.
This is I believe, the opposite of what the founders of the US would have wanted. The US is not the greatest nation on earth simply because patriots say so, even if they yell it from the rooftops or chant it every chance they get. If the US is the greatest nation it is because it allows people freedom, they have freedom to question their goverment and its actions among other things, but it seems that the more patriotic an american is the less they feel a need to question anything. That apathy and contentment is a real danger to democracy, because it means no one is protecting the democratic rights.
Correction: your web is about sharing information (incidentally, so is mine), but there are a lot of people who believe that the web is about interacting, and animation, and movie trailers.
How are those not information?
If I interact with someone, MSN, AIM, IRC etc etc, it's to exchange ideas, views, events in my life, and jokes with them, Information.
Funny cartoons and animations, while amusing, don't ascend to some higher state of being, they tell a joke, a story, convey an idea, or describe something, also Information.
Movie trailers show me what I can expect in the full feature, definitely Information.
Information is NOT just a list of numbers or a set of variables and values, that would be data, data when presented in a way which makes it useful: Information.
Slashdot Mirror
*blinks*
*reads again*
You sir (or, should it be the case, madam), are my hero.
Yeah, but it'd allow you to mark that ISP as spamfree (or spam reduced) and let mails from it through filters, less real mail gets caught in filters and less spam is sent from that ISP which helps in keeping costs down.
So if a Microsoft System gets hacked, it's Microsoft users fault? And if a Linux system gets hacked, it's still Microsoft users fault? Sooo, basically everything is Microsofts fault?
Indeed, by telling them to cheer up, it's not so bad, you're belittling their pain and agony, which will probably make them feel a lot worse since it seems no one understands just what they're feeling. This is the case for mostly all forms of depression, support the person and help them see the positive things, but never try to bullshit them. There are always positive things around to point out, there's no need to invent them.
But being forced into positive thinking isn't that good either. While anyone can muster a smile, it doesn't mean they're amused. Having the extra weight of having to be happy happy happy might push a person deeper into a depression if they're inclined to go that way. Sometimes it is nice to simply sulk and be miserable, a longterm depression is an issue, to allow yourself the luxury of a bit of selfpity isn't necessarily a bad thing.
Make Good Linux Software?
Do I prefer to pay money for good software rather than use some buggy unsupported hack? Hell yeah.
Problem is, there's a lot of good, free, open source software for Linux. If you want to sell something to that crowd, it better be damn good.
ahem...that would be "on screen", not "Engage", please do not confuse the two. However, having a vibrating bed respond to "Warp speed X, Engage!" would just be too damn cool.
And by cool I mean not cool at all, but nerdy, but nerdy in a good way.
Would you? If I decide to stop using the web, how will I find out when a patch is released if I don't have a browser? Call a friend and ask him to look for it, download it, burn to CD, come over, and install it... Or, I take the risk that nothing will happen, go about business as usual and patch when a patch is out. Guess which option 99.99% will opt for.
If I can't do crap about fixing it, what should I do, stop using the www? What other browser is secure to use as a replacement? Lynx?
Yeah sure it's great to find out there's a bug, but, I'm gonna bet that 95% of users on the internet couldn't care less about what software they use as long as it gets the job done.
Geeks care about what software they use, geeks also make sure they have the latest version by visiting the sites now and then and by reading tech news, then it doesn't matter if they use IE, Opera, Mozilla, Netscape, Lynx, Mosaic or if they hold the ethernet cable to their tongue to read webpages, geeks will make sure to have the latest version and all relevant patches.
An insecure browser is an insecure browser, whether it's made by MS or not is irrelevant.
I see 2 things that ESR missed or didn't address and emphasize enough:
IP rights, expect a heavy assault from MS and other organisations interested in IP rights against OSS, if you have code in your app that might infringe on someone elses copyright, or anything else that might be an IP issue, get it outta there now. They're moving from FUD to lawsuits, be prepared.
The self delusion, MS, instead of addressing the issues head on, write around them to make MS come out in a better light. Example: That only a few percent are very positive towards Shared Source should be written in bold red letters, MS should address that, not try to hide it since 2% approval simply means Shared Source will fail. Trying to make yourself come of well in an internal memo is insane and delusional, who's there to pat you on the back? There's no point in using marketing speak when addressing yourself.
That is something that makes me doubt the validity of the document ...
Finally, a suggestion: Don't complain about MicroSoft's flaws, praise Open Source accomplishments and features instead.
Yeah, imagine that, the Evil MS notifies customers that an update is avaliable, but the wonderful Mozilla organisation has people visiting the site looking for an updated version or patch. I know that my family at least finds that much easier because they have a deep interest in what web browser they use to browse the interweb...
If you're gonna complain about MS, at least use a valid argument, god knows there's a lot of them, but the kneejerk whining about MS being evil doesn't really do any good for anyone.
This is so that in the future, VotingSystem 2.0, you won't actually have to vote. We (The Powers That Be(tm)), already know how you will vote based on your tax report, creditcard purchases and library checkouts and will add your vote automatically.
We ask that you not cause a scene as we implement this system, we know what we're doing and rest assured we're doing what's best for you and your interests, thank you.
argh, you're forcing me into rant mode...
I really truly despise the view that CG is to make movies cheaper, IMO CG should be used to make movies BETTER. Remember Jurassic Park? Terminator 2? Both examples were CG was used to create spectacular effects that couldn't be made any other way.
Nowadays...CG is a cheap solution, that's why we see "explosions" that look like Office Clipart pasted on top of an object in MS Paint...
That's what he should've been doing here. Some of his "tech from a normal persons view" articles were actually quite entertaining and well written. General technology articles and media commentary, sure. Problem was he attempted some socio-political commentary aswell as some in-depth technical stuff on Slashdot without being able to pull it off.
Widespread? Hardly. In Europe entire cities were reduced to rubble, millions and millions again killed, by nazis, by allies, by starvation, by disease. Imagine the WTC and Pearl Harbor a thousand times over and you'll start to get close.
I'm not trolling or reducing WTC or Pearl Harbor to events wihtout meaning, but, Europes past is filled of bloody wars every couple of years, and yet it took the insane slaughter of WW2 to get us to realize that it really wasn't getting us anywhere.
Ah good point, but IF military action is taken, it's not enough to simply remove saddam, the entire government employed staff needs to be looked at, every cache of arms that could pose a threat be destroyed, a new system of government needs to be made, new police, new army etc etc etc. Basically, little will remain of the old Iraq except for the people and the borders. Therefore it will be a war on the nation, not against a person.
IF action is taken, it must be such that no one will have to go back and redo it again 10 years from now.
Contrary to popular american beliefs, Europe is NOT pro-Iraq, we're just not as keen on resorting to force nowadays since we saw the result of it at home.
The US hasn't in modern times seen widespread destruction on home turf, we still remember it vividly.
If the US could prove to European leaders (and European population) that Iraq is indeed the threat the US makes it out to be, then I'm sure European nations would also support military action and possibly be a part of it, as most have stated, they want a UN mandate first. But, the "He dun tried to kill mah paw" argument isn't that convincing on the European side of the pond.
Yeah, sound like a plan, keep in mind how the courts work though, there ain't no such thing as a ridiculous claim nor a frivolous lawsuit anymore. So what you gonna do when you end up with a newborn babe in your arms...
yeah well, using a knife or scissors is cheating
Yeah, I remember the days when nerds were outcasts in society, nowadays, since nerds are cool, I'm invited to party with hot co-eds and cheerleaders all the time!
All for only $19.95 a month
You mean IBM, a large multinational company, isn't just out to do good? They actually use the best tools out there to make a profit without considering their moral obligation to stubbornly pick an OS and stick with it in religious conviction? Oh the horror! Won't someone please think of the children!
-1, Sarcastic asshole, I know I know...
Yeah! And if we're lucky we'll see it evolve into a one party system and there will not be any reason for all the petty bickering that hinders progress at the moment, that's when democracy will finally be true democracy, one man, one vote, one party!
Oh no, not ciliize us? Whatever shall we do!
Why do american "patriots" so often feel the need to blindly defend the U.S? Saying that the marks are irrlevant, that the european press is more evil and not free at all, and it's some damn liberal plot again.
I thought that patriotism meant love for ones country, not for ones goverment, I thought a patriot of a democracy was supposed to always question anything that might infringe on his freedom or that of others. But it seems that whenever an article like this is seen in the news, the american "patriots" refuse to question their goverment or their nations policy, instead they stand up behind it no matter what and dismiss the criticism as some foreigners and/or liberals having their panties in a bunch.
This is I believe, the opposite of what the founders of the US would have wanted. The US is not the greatest nation on earth simply because patriots say so, even if they yell it from the rooftops or chant it every chance they get. If the US is the greatest nation it is because it allows people freedom, they have freedom to question their goverment and its actions among other things, but it seems that the more patriotic an american is the less they feel a need to question anything. That apathy and contentment is a real danger to democracy, because it means no one is protecting the democratic rights.
Correction: your web is about sharing information (incidentally, so is mine), but there are a lot of people who believe that the web is about interacting, and animation, and movie trailers.
How are those not information?
If I interact with someone, MSN, AIM, IRC etc etc, it's to exchange ideas, views, events in my life, and jokes with them, Information.
Funny cartoons and animations, while amusing, don't ascend to some higher state of being, they tell a joke, a story, convey an idea, or describe something, also Information.
Movie trailers show me what I can expect in the full feature, definitely Information.
Information is NOT just a list of numbers or a set of variables and values, that would be data, data when presented in a way which makes it useful: Information.