part of China now? or am I missing something?
The one thing the story doesn't cover is exactly -who- in the office gets to decide what the kiddy porn sites are.
If that's the case, then is it possible that
makers of nat boxes and other such devices commonly sold at your local computer stuperstore
could be considered accomplice to your actions
in intending to defraud your ISP?
Truly funny would be the string of lawsuits traversing from ISP->consumer->hardware makers->ISP.
Exactly how does this improve anything?
802.11 is short range technology, and they're
using radio to do data to the cars right now.
So let's lay out the scenarios in which this could possibly be useful:
1. An old lady gets mugged directly in front of
the police station. The LA cops outside who watch it and laugh can send an IM to the cops inside, so that they can laugh also.
2. LA cops can download the "Mr. T" skin for quake and play "pretend it's compton" with each other without having to go inside. Donut eating and racist "justice" are simultaneously accompished.
To all those naysayers... and all those who aren't quite sure what's going on inside MS right now, plans for Xbox 2 and plans for making Live much better than it is are currently being implemented. The next revs are going to blow doors on anything Sony or Nintendo are doing (although Sony does usually pull things out at the last minute in order to save face). The point is that this is a very real effort at MS, making very real money, and there's only more to come. It's historical with this company.
Now, back to the issue at hand... Eidos and EA are absolutely right in their refusal to use Xbox live. It's analagous to the age old supreme court issue of "having to use windows on OEMs" If someone is going to build a comm platform for a console, then it should at the very least be an open API where makers of games have options as to what data they're able to control, and what they do with it once they have it. This is just another example of MS trying to shove tech that noone wants down the throats of everyone, including their publishers. It's nice to see that for a change, some folks with buttweight like EA and Eidos have just said "uh, no..."
BTW - word on the street is that there's an open API system to address all the issues presented by Xbox Live's proprietary nature. I think I smell a followup article.
"But users of different instant messaging systems cannot communicate readily with each other. AOL has the biggest IM system in the United States, followed by Microsoft and Yahoo."
Ahem. Trillian.
-EOF-
I agree with your statements regarding authentication with the exception of your last statement. Compromising a border router is about as difficult as rating Janet Reno a "-1" on ratemyrack.com. I'm sure you would agree that any device on any network is as vulnerable as the next unless specific measures are taken to prevent someone from dicking with it. That said, if a device on the same network as a border router is compromised, you may as well consider the router to be hosed. And let's not pretend that alot of people don't run older sunos installations with mrtg on major connecting networks. From this point it's pretty trivial to figure out what goes wrong next.
Having heard about the scam a while back, and having received more than 50 of these things over the last couple of months, I decided to pick one and respond to it in order to both see how far the guy would go and also to tie up his time so that he couldn't scam as many people. The results were fairly interesting and they are as follows:
1. There were a total of about 10 emails exchanged, in which things like "official" passports identifying the guy who I was supposedly interacting with were sent to me.
2. I was able to get him to make two international phone calls to me. I'm sure the phone card was stolen, or at least payed for in GBP.
3. Doing the basic math on the number of gullible people in the world, the number of these guys doing this type of stuff, the number of emails and phone calls sent and received to/from me with this guy... basically results in
the fact that I saved at least 3 people from actually losing an undetermined amount of money.
I'd be happy to post the email thread if anyone is interested.
MH
This implies that anything which is sysV based
is going to "die." I don't see HP/Compaq stopping the shipping of new hpux boxes, which is basically original sysV with thousands of security patches and an add on crappy clustering system. I certainly don't see sun stopping the shipping of Solaris products (yes sales have declined, but it's not "dead"). IMO, this is just a feeble marketing/PR attempt by Dell to put an emphasis on the OS' which they ship (MS win/Linux products) and make everyone forget that their two biggest competitors are still shipping these things. Weak.
but I couldn't disagree more with Chris' statement. You -do- own your own hardware and you can paint it blue and throw it against the wall if that's your gig. As a matter of fact, you could probably make your own mod chip, install it, run it, and call the DoJ to tell them that you did. The guy who got arrested was the one making a profit off of selling the chips, not a chip user. As a matter of fact, I have a chip that I made in between typing this and slamming my console against the wall, so... if the DoJ asks slashdot for my user info, please feel free to give it to them, because I don't intend on selling it.
How about that we just mark anyone who has anything to say about rich people, poor people, millionaires, people too stupid to hire sober customer support agents, donkey saddles, hillbilly gardening tactics, or nuclear powered vibrators down as a -1 for being offtopic.
I like big planes. They make me feel safe. The airbus is a nice model of airplane. One day I would like to fly in one.
Does this mean that we could finally end up with
a guy named dark helmet flying commuter routes to Duran Duran? "Today's inflight meal provided by Pizza the Hut"
"The documents included details about DirecTV's latest "P4" card technology, which hackers have so far been unable to crack. A lawyer for DirecTV, Marc Zwillinger, said the papers included details about the design and architecture of the new cards but did not reveal instructions for hacking them."
I'm thinking that with complete schematics for the directTV system, instructions should not be
necessary.
and it -has- been a while (since I loathe the beast), but the AOL "software" has a web browser
built into it. Basically, by taking the content off of the Internet, their going to try to balance the loss of ad revenue against the "increase in subscriber rates." Gee, I know I'm sure going to run right out and get my aol now that Time online content is exclusive with them. Point is that this is just another brilliant way for one more public company to start losing -more- money, and a publication to start losing reaadership.
Which is completely not the point. The point is that I have in depth knowledge of @steak's (yes it was a pun) tech, or biz practices or whatever.
They feel that this is valuable enough to sue my ass off. Individual VS. COMPANY. Companies, generally speaking, have alot more resources than individuals and can basically outspend them in court. It happens all the time. That, in combination with this law is a recipe for disaster.
that can have different outcomes based on only opinions and interpretations, not facts. Let's just say I had an inordinate amount of knowledge about network security because I worked at say...@steak, but then I left @steak to join say...ISS. Well, if for whatever reason @steak doesn't want me working at ISS, then they can bring their meathammers down on me in court, and seeing as how I would be the individual facing a corporate lawsuit, the massive burden of legal expenses would be on me, whereas it's just a write off for the company. It effectively gives prior employers complete control of your future employment if you were smart enough to have learned anything at your last job.
Slashdot Mirror
part of China now? or am I missing something? The one thing the story doesn't cover is exactly -who- in the office gets to decide what the kiddy porn sites are.
Maybe now Cliff won't have to work at burger king?
If that's the case, then is it possible that makers of nat boxes and other such devices commonly sold at your local computer stuperstore could be considered accomplice to your actions in intending to defraud your ISP? Truly funny would be the string of lawsuits traversing from ISP->consumer->hardware makers->ISP.
Exactly how does this improve anything? 802.11 is short range technology, and they're using radio to do data to the cars right now.
So let's lay out the scenarios in which this could possibly be useful:
1. An old lady gets mugged directly in front of the police station. The LA cops outside who watch it and laugh can send an IM to the cops inside, so that they can laugh also.
2. LA cops can download the "Mr. T" skin for quake and play "pretend it's compton" with each other without having to go inside. Donut eating and racist "justice" are simultaneously accompished.
dude.. i can't find space taxi anywhere and that's why i installed this fookin c64 emulator. Anyone have an url? "HEY TAXI"
Maybe we can all wear neon clothes and roll around on geometric objects while we kernel tune.
To all those naysayers... and all those who aren't quite sure what's going on inside MS right now, plans for Xbox 2 and plans for making Live much better than it is are currently being implemented. The next revs are going to blow doors on anything Sony or Nintendo are doing (although Sony does usually pull things out at the last minute in order to save face). The point is that this is a very real effort at MS, making very real money, and there's only more to come. It's historical with this company.
Now, back to the issue at hand... Eidos and EA are absolutely right in their refusal to use Xbox live. It's analagous to the age old supreme court issue of "having to use windows on OEMs" If someone is going to build a comm platform for a console, then it should at the very least be an open API where makers of games have options as to what data they're able to control, and what they do with it once they have it. This is just another example of MS trying to shove tech that noone wants down the throats of everyone, including their publishers. It's nice to see that for a change, some folks with buttweight like EA and Eidos have just said "uh, no..."
BTW - word on the street is that there's an open API system to address all the issues presented by Xbox Live's proprietary nature. I think I smell a followup article.
Interesting. When I was in college, I just got to do the "smoke a whole lot of interesting pot and we'll pay you forty bux" experiment.
I'd like to see what would happen if we made one experiment out of the respective two.
Hypothesis: Ingesting massive amounts of high potency marijuana will have the same mind numbing effect as reaching level 50 in an MMPORG.
You're starting out in St. Louis and have an end objective of Placerville? That's like leaving hell to go ...somewhere even worse.
The only way that sendmail will EVER be secure is if someone takes the following steps:
Every notice how the spammers are now using various IM apps to try to sell the only thing that was ever a true commercial Internet success?
.....porn
Every time I sign on to Various IM Services, I end up getting things like:
*Cherry34539* Hi sexy. I'm a friend of Vicki's, she told me to IM you.
Would you like to see my webcam
"But users of different instant messaging systems cannot communicate readily with each other. AOL has the biggest IM system in the United States, followed by Microsoft and Yahoo."
Ahem. Trillian. -EOF-
I agree with your statements regarding authentication with the exception of your last statement. Compromising a border router is about as difficult as rating Janet Reno a "-1" on ratemyrack.com.
I'm sure you would agree that any device on any network is as vulnerable as the next unless specific measures are taken to prevent someone from dicking with it. That said, if a device on the same network as a border router is compromised, you may as well consider the router to be hosed. And let's not pretend that alot of people don't run older sunos installations with mrtg on major connecting networks. From this point it's pretty trivial to figure out what goes wrong next.
Having heard about the scam a while back, and having received more than 50 of these things over the last couple of months, I decided to pick one and respond to it in order to both see how far the guy would go and also to tie up his time so that he couldn't scam as many people. The results were fairly interesting and they are as follows: 1. There were a total of about 10 emails exchanged, in which things like "official" passports identifying the guy who I was supposedly interacting with were sent to me. 2. I was able to get him to make two international phone calls to me. I'm sure the phone card was stolen, or at least payed for in GBP. 3. Doing the basic math on the number of gullible people in the world, the number of these guys doing this type of stuff, the number of emails and phone calls sent and received to/from me with this guy... basically results in the fact that I saved at least 3 people from actually losing an undetermined amount of money. I'd be happy to post the email thread if anyone is interested. MH
This implies that anything which is sysV based is going to "die." I don't see HP/Compaq stopping the shipping of new hpux boxes, which is basically original sysV with thousands of security patches and an add on crappy clustering system. I certainly don't see sun stopping the shipping of Solaris products (yes sales have declined, but it's not "dead"). IMO, this is just a feeble marketing/PR attempt by Dell to put an emphasis on the OS' which they ship (MS win/Linux products) and make everyone forget that their two biggest competitors are still shipping these things. Weak.
is throwing a temper tantrum right about now.
"Microsoft enables chinese government to further restrict it's citizens in their abilities to compute or communicate with the free world."
A completely secure mobile computing solution...
but I couldn't disagree more with Chris' statement. You -do- own your own hardware and you can paint it blue and throw it against the wall if that's your gig. As a matter of fact, you could probably make your own mod chip, install it, run it, and call the DoJ to tell them that you did. The guy who got arrested was the one making a profit off of selling the chips, not a chip user. As a matter of fact, I have a chip that I made in between typing this and slamming my console against the wall, so... if the DoJ asks slashdot for my user info, please feel free to give it to them, because I don't intend on selling it.
How about that we just mark anyone who has anything to say about rich people, poor people, millionaires, people too stupid to hire sober customer support agents, donkey saddles, hillbilly gardening tactics, or nuclear powered vibrators down as a -1 for being offtopic.
I like big planes. They make me feel safe. The airbus is a nice model of airplane. One day I would like to fly in one.
Does this mean that we could finally end up with a guy named dark helmet flying commuter routes to Duran Duran? "Today's inflight meal provided by Pizza the Hut"
"The documents included details about DirecTV's latest "P4" card technology, which hackers have so far been unable to crack. A lawyer for DirecTV, Marc Zwillinger, said the papers included details about the design and architecture of the new cards but did not reveal instructions for hacking them." I'm thinking that with complete schematics for the directTV system, instructions should not be necessary.
and it -has- been a while (since I loathe the beast), but the AOL "software" has a web browser built into it. Basically, by taking the content off of the Internet, their going to try to balance the loss of ad revenue against the "increase in subscriber rates." Gee, I know I'm sure going to run right out and get my aol now that Time online content is exclusive with them. Point is that this is just another brilliant way for one more public company to start losing -more- money, and a publication to start losing reaadership.
Which is completely not the point. The point is that I have in depth knowledge of @steak's (yes it was a pun) tech, or biz practices or whatever. They feel that this is valuable enough to sue my ass off. Individual VS. COMPANY. Companies, generally speaking, have alot more resources than individuals and can basically outspend them in court. It happens all the time. That, in combination with this law is a recipe for disaster.
that can have different outcomes based on only opinions and interpretations, not facts. Let's just say I had an inordinate amount of knowledge about network security because I worked at say...@steak, but then I left @steak to join say...ISS. Well, if for whatever reason @steak doesn't want me working at ISS, then they can bring their meathammers down on me in court, and seeing as how I would be the individual facing a corporate lawsuit, the massive burden of legal expenses would be on me, whereas it's just a write off for the company. It effectively gives prior employers complete control of your future employment if you were smart enough to have learned anything at your last job.