I ran into one of those yesterday on a sporting goods sales site... wrote them a nastygram quoting their rejection-page back to them, together with my browser identity, then asking whether I should expect the same kind of bullshit from their merchandise that I find in their web site design.
idiot bastards!
Funny. There still people who hate customers and dislike selling things. We (still) live in a free country, and it's their right to be unsuccesful. But it's a pain that they never know why.
It's not Gentoo's fault if you are too stupid to check out\ldots
Would you please mind telling how to avoid the half-of-the-world system upgrade instead of starting praying? Praying makes me nervous, especially if some inferior mind does so.
You Gentoo guys are funny people. Merely like those of OpenBSD - if you point something out that you think that doesn't work, they start calling you names.
A) Trolls
B) Debian Trolls
C) Not using the distro they should.
Gentoo isn't afraid of you.
Gentoo is the only distribution that gives you a chance on getting a system destroyed overnight without you being able to interfere in any way. Even when you know before that something in the ebuilds tree is broken, the next time something puts this on the dependency list, it will be "updated". Nothing can stop emerge from doing this.
Big fun if you like computers and systems consistently in experimental stage, big damn ugly if you need to earn your money with it.
Merely my brief experience with Gentoo, when they first upgraded glibc (from 2.2 to 2.3 iirc) and broke half the packages, then downgraded it again and broke everything else. This is really a pet peeve: aren't minor versions supposed to be compatible?
There's a big difference between binary executable and logical compatibility. You have compiled several files with newer libraries and then downgraded. You expected that the newly compiled programs to run with old libraries - which they in fact do, as long as there has no special feature of the newer libraries been used - inherently.
If you are unhappy with your executables be broken, simply keep a copy of the older libraries. (With Gentoo, simply delete the old package file in/var/db/pkg before updating.)
If Germany starts scanning iris', that's mainly because the U.S. wanted so for the sake of their security.
IMHO it's doubtful if this will change anything in the effective security level. - A number of convicted terrorists were native citizens of non-listed non-suspicious countries or naturalized there, with legal passports.
An even bigger number were from a suspicious country with legal papers, which were certified by U.S. officials, including visa and so on.
To me it seems that the main problem of people with invalid or forged papers is that they are just economic refugees, having not even enough money for proper papers.
Too few money does not seem to be the primary problem of today's terrorists. At least not of those who I heard of.
Except for 5.2.1-RC, which seems to have a bug that caused problems with loading the NIC driver
I have a number of hardware components now (at home and at job) which I can't use anymore. At some time, the associated FreeBSD driver got broken, and that's it.
Sending email to the authors doesn't succeed - standard reply: It works for me. (Offer to send example hardware: No reply. Official bug report: Bug is left alone till it gets automatically closed. Coordinated bug report campaign: All emails get ignored.)
This can only happen with an operating system which has fewer than a few thousand users.
My debian distro grows every day. not sure how fast though.
apt-get update
apt-get upgrade
30 new packages installed, none removed and 2 held back.
Maybe it doesn't matter that the complicated (and hopelessly bloated) Debian development cycle will give us the next major release when we all are in our graves - but it surely concerns us when dependencies that need to be satisfied make the operating system on our hard disk expand with every update (like you say).
Debian is a good example for something gone out of control; several thousands of packages (and nearly the same number of developers) take their tribute.
3) It's Windows. Forget "drivers" without a dozen driver install disks...
5) It's Windows... most apps won't run without registry editing and all kinds of other crap.
Hey, moderators, he said something useful! Why modding him down?
Of course, Linux desires some other environmentally needed tools too, like Outlook (Express) (needed so badly - still no viruses under Linux!), MS Scripting Host (invaluable for executing virus scripts, dialer and spyware pages and so on), the whole broken framework of object interferences and misguided authorizations is missing under Linux.
Without that, the whole Office software couldn't be properly integrated.
To make Linux inferior and totally broken we need it! Port it to Linux! Finish your work, IBM, buy SCO and be friends again with Microsoft!
Firefox has already been used by some (Novell?) networking software.
The next scheduled name is probably:
Firefly (already in use by a FreeBSD derived project). Obviously, it's too much work for those "fire"men to type in a name at Google before using it.
I pointed out a couple of weeks ago my conjecture that Bush/Cheney/Ashcroft and gang were more likely behind this than Microsoft.
They want OSS and the Internet brought under control and they'll do anything to get there.
I live in Germany, and to me it was always surprising how far criminal politicians can get in the United States. I mean, Enron and Halliburton have been in the press, but no-one cared after all...
Would you mind to explain why CVS must die? I, e.g., see more reasons why PVCS should die, I understand that PRCS is already dead, and many other have a good idea behind them, but are not usable or a too proprietary to be widely used.
Uwe Ohse describes why he thinks CVS is not so good - from my point of view, these reasons don't really matter. Have you more and better reasons?
In this case, I have to agree. 5.2-RELEASE was born dead. They all knew it, and now they try to resurrect that pre-mature experimental release with some equally pre-mature kludges.
One colleague of mine has the theory, that every second FreeBSD release is usable, the rest you can forget.
Because CVS is bad and must die, so everything that is based on CVS must die too.
rsync'ing in Portage is not hardcoded to use CVS - it can sync trees originated/exported from any other versioning system too.
Yes, but the mechanism of rsync treats the data like a black box (i.e. doesn't assume anything), while cvsup knows the structure of cvs file and therefore is faster and more economic.
Errm, I have a read a lot of messages saying that CVS must die, more or less recently. I have the impression that most of them people writing so are non-programmers or have never used cvs themselves.
Personally, I see some deficiencies with it, but there is no good reason to abandon cvs. It works, and it works reliably, and that is indeed something you can't say about all existing versioning systems...
What Perens is saying is that is own consulting company will offer support for KDE as a service provider. Gnome is still the only chosen GUI for UserLinux.
Uncool. More people like you and/. will cease to exist.
Stop spoiling/. discussions with unnecessary realism or old-fashioned think patterns like truth and false.
To me the biggest problem with Windows as a desktop is that it assumes that its users have even a modicum of common sense when obviously they don't.
If you mean, users = software producers, that's partially right. But you can't call an operating system "rock solid", if there is no single working mechanism for installing or uninstalling software (instead, you have a number of mechanisms, and since they are disturbing each other, none of them really works).
The effect is that there are conflicts which can only be resolved by re-installing the whole system, there are unidentifiable objects which float around and tend to fill up the hard disk. Within these, there is much space for viruses and other malware.
Now ask yourself, do you want a patch submitted by someone at "one-eyed-alien.net" running on *your* production server?
That's what I'm asking me all the time. That's why I am working on making my server rooms Windows free ('cause Mr. Gates is a one-eyed alien, AFAIK). Only BSD is allowed inside there.
Patents aren't stupid -- the patent office is. It seems to me that they're taking the approach that if the applicant can hold a reasonable argument for a process they don't understand, they issue the patent under the assumption that the courts will sort out the garbage fromt the useful patents.
Hm, many of the patents I have seen were made by people who really had the idea first, but they seemingly had very unprecise ideas on how to implement their patent technically. Years later, they come up and ask for license payments. But in fact, they did nothing, absolutely nothing for the technical realization of it.
In my opinion, this is not only the fault of the patent office, it's the fault of the whole system that allows ideas to be patented.
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We (still) live in a free country, and it's their right to be unsuccesful. But it's a pain that they never know why.
You Gentoo guys are funny people. Merely like those of OpenBSD - if you point something out that you think that doesn't work, they start calling you names.
Big fun if you like computers and systems consistently in experimental stage, big damn ugly if you need to earn your money with it.
If you are unhappy with your executables be broken, simply keep a copy of the older libraries. (With Gentoo, simply delete the old package file in /var/db/pkg before updating.)
IMHO it's doubtful if this will change anything in the effective security level. - A number of convicted terrorists were native citizens of non-listed non-suspicious countries or naturalized there, with legal passports.
An even bigger number were from a suspicious country with legal papers, which were certified by U.S. officials, including visa and so on.
To me it seems that the main problem of people with invalid or forged papers is that they are just economic refugees, having not even enough money for proper papers.
Too few money does not seem to be the primary problem of today's terrorists. At least not of those who I heard of.
I have a number of hardware components now (at home and at job) which I can't use anymore. At some time, the associated FreeBSD driver got broken, and that's it.
Sending email to the authors doesn't succeed - standard reply: It works for me. (Offer to send example hardware: No reply. Official bug report: Bug is left alone till it gets automatically closed. Coordinated bug report campaign: All emails get ignored.)
This can only happen with an operating system which has fewer than a few thousand users.
Maybe it doesn't matter that the complicated (and hopelessly bloated) Debian development cycle will give us the next major release when we all are in our graves - but it surely concerns us when dependencies that need to be satisfied make the operating system on our hard disk expand with every update (like you say).
Debian is a good example for something gone out of control; several thousands of packages (and nearly the same number of developers) take their tribute.
Hey, moderators, he said something useful! Why modding him down?
Without that, the whole Office software couldn't be properly integrated.
To make Linux inferior and totally broken we need it! Port it to Linux! Finish your work, IBM, buy SCO and be friends again with Microsoft!
Firefox has already been used by some (Novell?) networking software.
The next scheduled name is probably: Firefly (already in use by a FreeBSD derived project).
Obviously, it's too much work for those "fire"men to type in a name at Google before using it.
if he wanted to meet a future President. The U.S.A. are ruled by an elite of industry-financed oligarchs.
I, e.g., see more reasons why PVCS should die, I understand that PRCS is already dead, and many other have a good idea behind them, but are not usable or a too proprietary to be widely used.
Uwe Ohse describes why he thinks CVS is not so good - from my point of view, these reasons don't really matter. Have you more and better reasons?
One colleague of mine has the theory, that every second FreeBSD release is usable, the rest you can forget.
Errm, I have a read a lot of messages saying that CVS must die, more or less recently. I have the impression that most of them people writing so are non-programmers or have never used cvs themselves.
Personally, I see some deficiencies with it, but there is no good reason to abandon cvs. It works, and it works reliably, and that is indeed something you can't say about all existing versioning systems...
More people like you and
Stop spoiling /. discussions with unnecessary realism or old-fashioned think patterns like truth and false.
The effect is that there are conflicts which can only be resolved by re-installing the whole system, there are unidentifiable objects which float around and tend to fill up the hard disk. Within these, there is much space for viruses and other malware.
Impressingly, there seem to be no existing terrorists flying business class, because there are extremely relaxed checks, if at all.
In my opinion, this is not only the fault of the patent office, it's the fault of the whole system that allows ideas to be patented.