Rolling out a community network is a great idea and probably any network geek's dream. But DSL, oh my! Manywirelesscommunitynetworks
have proved 802.11b is the perfect technology for this. These guys in Seattle are trying to cover the whole city and IMHO they're very likely to succeed.
So you want to roll out a network in a small city ? UseNoCat Auth for authentication, connect everything to the net, and already you'll be able to read slashdot while sitting in the middle of the street.
Last thing you expected to read on slashdot...
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An editor saying Linux is insecure and doubting the feasibility of a secure Gnu/Linux distribution, calling it "fun to try". Whoa.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was trolling. I meant that if I started sniffing my LAN without telling my users, it'd be illegal in most parts of the world.
Sending or receiving unencrypted packets is like sending a postcard: it's not sealed, and it's not illegal for the letter carrier to read it.
Where did you get that from? In most parts of the world, anything you send through the mail is private and it's illegal to read someone else's postcard. The same rule applies to the internet.
I know this is completely off-topic, but thought this would probably interest some people.
Rob uses Grab for screenshots. On Mac OS, you can use apple-shift-3 to take a screenshot, apple-shift-4 if you just need a part. There are more shortcuts here, put that page in your bookmarks!
Note: the server is apparently still able to serve the images. Click on the links!
Tapping the alpha geek noosphere with EtherPEG
by Rob Flickenger May. 15, 2002
So there I was at ETech, sitting in the back of the Emergence discussion, listening to Rael Dornfest, Cory Doctorow, Clay Shirky, and other extraordinary blogging minds thought about the blogging world.
I was thoroughly enjoying the discussion, but I had to wonder, how were the other 200 people in the room reacting to the proceedings? Response seemed very favorable, but I did see quite a few faces staring down, with accompanying tell-tale key clicks buzzing about the room.
If only there were some way of getting into the collective stream-of-consciousness of the crowd, to gauge their actual reactions to what was really going on up on stage...
If you've never heard of EtherPEG, its a Mac hack that's been around for a while that combines all of the modern conveniences of a packet sniffer with the good old-fashioned friendliness of a graphics rendering library, to show you whatever GIFs and JPEGs are flying around on your network. It's sort of a real-time meta browser that dynamically builds a view of other people's browsers, built up as other people look around online.
The effect was staggering. As I expected, traffic was very light at the beginning (a couple of big news and blog sites were obvious, and strangely enough, the Microsoft Developer's Network.) But as the talk continued, some people were obviously letting their minds (and their fingers) wander...
I was impressed that when Tim O'Reilly stood up to ask about whether bloggers were building a city or living in their own ghetto, virtually all traffic stopped. Evidently, this was something that almost everybody in the room was interested in listening to. And once Tim sat down again, the pixels began to flow once more.
After a little while, the atmosphere took on a bit of a dark turn. Lots of images of law enforcement agency websites, some american flags with an angry eagle bursting through, and possibly darkest of all, a Britney Spears fan site. The theme continued as Clay Shirky was discussing "maps and non-player characters" and the downward gothic spiral expanded...
It became obvious that the crowd could be viewed as a living organism, with its own cycles of activity and rest. The chaotic effect of random images plastering themselves on my screen gave me a unique point of view-- it was a sort of mental feedback (much like audio feedback, even with the accompanying headache, only this headache was in some bizarre fourth dimension.)
By the end, the dark forces had definitely descended. I was treading on some very dark back waters of the collective geek subconscious... Think Evil Dead and PDAs in Washington DC. I had definitely descended into a sort of techno hell, the sixth circle of hades, where the damned are only given t-shirts after they listen to a short marketing presentation.
EtherPEG isn't for the faint of heart, especially at a technical conference. The gentleman sitting next to me leaned over and inquired about how he could prevent me from watching his traffic... The technical answer is easy: run application layer encryption (ssh tunneling, vtun, ipsec, pptp) to a point outside of the wireless, and then your traffic will at least be protected from neighboring wireless eavesdroppers. But the philosophical answer is much simpler: I have stared at the sun, and for the sake of my sanity, will never again look directly at the consciousness of the online ueber-geek collective.
Unless I really want to...
Rob Flickenger is the O'Reilly Network's Systems Administrator
The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the international organization dealing with the global rules of trade between countries. Its main function is to lower trade barriers and ensure that trade flows as smoothly, predictably and freely (speech and beer) as possible.
Member countries have to avoid tolls and encourage free trade. They can only disadvantage foreing products in certain cases, e.g. mad cow disease. The US and Indonesia are both members.
Anyway, let's imagine the US decided to tax clothing companies who make shoes in Asian sweatshops or outside the US. Basically, this would be an embargo, or a toll if you like; you can imagine the other WTO member countries wouldn't be very pleased about it.
You'd harm the global economy; because of that, first of all, you'd get a huge fine and sanctions from the WTO. Expect other countries to tax imports on US clothes to subventionize their clothing industry. People would have to pay more for their clothes and eventually, a few companies would take their production back to the states.
But you'd also harm the kids in the sweatshops! They would have to work harder and produce more to survive. Their country's economy would suffer quite badly from that tax, long term development will slow down etc. Just look at what happened with Cuba.
The
NoCatAuth Nightly (bottom of the page) supports both RADIUS and LDAP authentication. This is fresh code, please report problems and/or send a patch:)
I can think of many reasons.. there is no darwin community to help you when xyz won't work, there is no package manager (fink is not ready for primetime yet), KDE does kiynky stuff with ELF binaries and therefore won't work on Darwin, etc.
I don't think anyone is using Darwin and X instead of Gnu/Linux yet - at least not on their main box; what would the advantages be anyway?
Booting new macs directly on Debian cds
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If you buy a mac and you want to install Debian on it, you can put Apple's CDs away and just boot your toy from the Debian isos. Anything built after the iMac will work.
However, if like Edd you're an experienced user with a good connection to the net, the Woody netinst isos for PPC (they're also available for i386) are what you're looking for. They're a bare, 30 Mo heavy Debian installer which download the base OS and the packages you decide to install from a debian mirror. I've saved a lot of time and bandwidth using them.
If like him you also want to use Mac OS, don't use the "system restore" CDs on your first boot either. Don't create these two partitions from Linux in this case as this has been known to cause trouble. Instead, boot from the Mac OS X CD that came with your mac, prepare two partitions, the first one being for Mac OS, then reboot from the "system restore" CDs.
Once you're done with your Mac OS install, boot from one of the isos mentioned above and install your Debian. Since Mac OS can't read ext2 and Linux isn't very good at handling HFS+, I always keep a small (~100 Mo) HFS partition when I install two systems on a mac, which is very useful to transfer files between the two systems.
xs4all provides its users with a free copy of pgp and documentation. They encourage their users to use them and support their privacy.
I'd love my ISP to do that kind of things.
Another one while /.'ed
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I'm the new tour manager for a semi-obscure German "industrial music" group formerly named Einsturzende Neubauten. The name translates to "Collapsing New Buildings", so taking a cue from American heavy metal band, Basket Full Of Puppies (nee Anthrax), they've changed their name to Flaumige Häschen ("Fluffy Bunnies"). It was a wise PR decision, even though they had the previous moniker for over 20 years. Their old fans will find the new name playfully ironic, and the really aren't gaining any new ones. Plus it rolls off the tongue... which says a lot in a harsh language like German.
The band relies heavily power tools and anything metallic that can be used as percussion for their live performances. Unfortunately road wear-and-tear, plus many rainy outdoor festival gigs have compromised the equipment. We were in a pretty bad accident with the tour bus last year, and all of the decaying chainsaws, nails, drill bits, sheet metal, and touring personnel got tossed about like we were inside of a blender, which is ironic since the blender (along with the mixer and centrifuge) stayed put.
Everyone got cut up pretty bad, but with all of the screams and clanging such as they were, I'd say that it was hands-down their strongest performance in the time that I've been with them. It was pretty gruesome though. I can only remember one sight as horrific, and that would be the backstage videotape of fellow German techno band Kraftwerk scootching across shag carpeting, and shocking each other's naked asses with their fingers. I think they finally discovered something that was more fun to compute.
Anyway... Flaumige Häschen is a group of rough-and-tumble guys, and their multiple lacerations and severances didn't really bother them all that much. It was the ensuing lockjaw from the tetanus they all got from their rusty instruments that was very uncomfortable for them. Fortunately, having their jaws immobile in no way interfered with their vocal performances.
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This will replace Sherlock 87% of the time. To automatically update the database twice a day, open a terminal, type crontab -e and add these lines to the file:
# Update locate database twice a day
00 4,16 * * * root/usr/bin/nice -n 5/usr/libexec/locate.updatedb >/dev/null
Slashdot Mirror
At $347 a piece, it also includes a 14.4 modem and a thtppd web server. If you are an indian goddess you may run a beowulf cluster of these.
Rolling out a community network is a great idea and probably any network geek's dream. But DSL, oh my! Many wireless community networks have proved 802.11b is the perfect technology for this. These guys in Seattle are trying to cover the whole city and IMHO they're very likely to succeed.
So you want to roll out a network in a small city ? UseNoCat Auth for authentication, connect everything to the net, and already you'll be able to read slashdot while sitting in the middle of the street.
An editor saying Linux is insecure and doubting the feasibility of a secure Gnu/Linux distribution, calling it "fun to try". Whoa.
they won't sell this to Norwegian museums!
I use "eight-oh-two dot eleven bee", I've also heard "eight-hundred and two dot eleven b" and "eight zero two one one b", what do you guys use?
You probably meant 0.60 Euros
Hammurabi's cuneidot ID is 526823. The other Hammurabi is an imposter
Sorry, didn't mean to sound like I was trolling. I meant that if I started sniffing my LAN without telling my users, it'd be illegal in most parts of the world.
Cheers.
Where did you get that from? In most parts of the world, anything you send through the mail is private and it's illegal to read someone else's postcard. The same rule applies to the internet.
I know this is completely off-topic, but thought this would probably interest some people.
Rob uses Grab for screenshots. On Mac OS, you can use apple-shift-3 to take a screenshot, apple-shift-4 if you just need a part. There are more shortcuts here, put that page in your bookmarks!
Note: the server is apparently still able to serve the images. Click on the links!
Tapping the alpha geek noosphere with EtherPEG
by Rob Flickenger
May. 15, 2002
So there I was at ETech, sitting in the back of the Emergence discussion, listening to Rael Dornfest, Cory Doctorow, Clay Shirky, and other extraordinary blogging minds thought about the blogging world.
I was thoroughly enjoying the discussion, but I had to wonder, how were the other 200 people in the room reacting to the proceedings? Response seemed very favorable, but I did see quite a few faces staring down, with accompanying tell-tale key clicks buzzing about the room.
If only there were some way of getting into the collective stream-of-consciousness of the crowd, to gauge their actual reactions to what was really going on up on stage...
If you've never heard of EtherPEG, its a Mac hack that's been around for a while that combines all of the modern conveniences of a packet sniffer with the good old-fashioned friendliness of a graphics rendering library, to show you whatever GIFs and JPEGs are flying around on your network. It's sort of a real-time meta browser that dynamically builds a view of other people's browsers, built up as other people look around online.
The effect was staggering. As I expected, traffic was very light at the beginning (a couple of big news and blog sites were obvious, and strangely enough, the Microsoft Developer's Network.) But as the talk continued, some people were obviously letting their minds (and their fingers) wander...
Early traffic showed a very wandering bent.
I was impressed that when Tim O'Reilly stood up to ask about whether bloggers were building a city or living in their own ghetto, virtually all traffic stopped. Evidently, this was something that almost everybody in the room was interested in listening to. And once Tim sat down again, the pixels began to flow once more.
After a little while, the atmosphere took on a bit of a dark turn. Lots of images of law enforcement agency websites, some american flags with an angry eagle bursting through, and possibly darkest of all, a Britney Spears fan site. The theme continued as Clay Shirky was discussing "maps and non-player characters" and the downward gothic spiral expanded...
Further down the spiral
It became obvious that the crowd could be viewed as a living organism, with its own cycles of activity and rest. The chaotic effect of random images plastering themselves on my screen gave me a unique point of view-- it was a sort of mental feedback (much like audio feedback, even with the accompanying headache, only this headache was in some bizarre fourth dimension.)
The End
By the end, the dark forces had definitely descended. I was treading on some very dark back waters of the collective geek subconscious... Think Evil Dead and PDAs in Washington DC. I had definitely descended into a sort of techno hell, the sixth circle of hades, where the damned are only given t-shirts after they listen to a short marketing presentation.
EtherPEG isn't for the faint of heart, especially at a technical conference. The gentleman sitting next to me leaned over and inquired about how he could prevent me from watching his traffic... The technical answer is easy: run application layer encryption (ssh tunneling, vtun, ipsec, pptp) to a point outside of the wireless, and then your traffic will at least be protected from neighboring wireless eavesdroppers. But the philosophical answer is much simpler: I have stared at the sun, and for the sake of my sanity, will never again look directly at the consciousness of the online ueber-geek collective.
Unless I really want to...
Rob Flickenger is the O'Reilly Network's Systems Administrator
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The World Trade Organization (WTO) is the international organization dealing with the global rules of trade between countries. Its main function is to lower trade barriers and ensure that trade flows as smoothly, predictably and freely (speech and beer) as possible.
Member countries have to avoid tolls and encourage free trade. They can only disadvantage foreing products in certain cases, e.g. mad cow disease. The US and Indonesia are both members.
Anyway, let's imagine the US decided to tax clothing companies who make shoes in Asian sweatshops or outside the US. Basically, this would be an embargo, or a toll if you like; you can imagine the other WTO member countries wouldn't be very pleased about it.
You'd harm the global economy; because of that, first of all, you'd get a huge fine and sanctions from the WTO. Expect other countries to tax imports on US clothes to subventionize their clothing industry. People would have to pay more for their clothes and eventually, a few companies would take their production back to the states.
But you'd also harm the kids in the sweatshops! They would have to work harder and produce more to survive. Their country's economy would suffer quite badly from that tax, long term development will slow down etc. Just look at what happened with Cuba.
The NoCatAuth Nightly (bottom of the page) supports both RADIUS and LDAP authentication. This is fresh code, please report problems and/or send a patch :)
I can think of many reasons.. there is no darwin community to help you when xyz won't work, there is no package manager (fink is not ready for primetime yet), KDE does kiynky stuff with ELF binaries and therefore won't work on Darwin, etc.
I don't think anyone is using Darwin and X instead of Gnu/Linux yet - at least not on their main box; what would the advantages be anyway?
If you buy a mac and you want to install Debian on it, you can put Apple's CDs away and just boot your toy from the Debian isos. Anything built after the iMac will work.
However, if like Edd you're an experienced user with a good connection to the net, the Woody netinst isos for PPC (they're also available for i386) are what you're looking for. They're a bare, 30 Mo heavy Debian installer which download the base OS and the packages you decide to install from a debian mirror. I've saved a lot of time and bandwidth using them.
If like him you also want to use Mac OS, don't use the "system restore" CDs on your first boot either. Don't create these two partitions from Linux in this case as this has been known to cause trouble. Instead, boot from the Mac OS X CD that came with your mac, prepare two partitions, the first one being for Mac OS, then reboot from the "system restore" CDs.
Once you're done with your Mac OS install, boot from one of the isos mentioned above and install your Debian. Since Mac OS can't read ext2 and Linux isn't very good at handling HFS+, I always keep a small (~100 Mo) HFS partition when I install two systems on a mac, which is very useful to transfer files between the two systems.
xs4all provides its users with a free copy of pgp and documentation. They encourage their users to use them and support their privacy.
I'd love my ISP to do that kind of things.
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I'm the new tour manager for a semi-obscure German "industrial music" group formerly named Einsturzende Neubauten. The name translates to "Collapsing New Buildings", so taking a cue from American heavy metal band, Basket Full Of Puppies (nee Anthrax), they've changed their name to Flaumige Häschen ("Fluffy Bunnies"). It was a wise PR decision, even though they had the previous moniker for over 20 years. Their old fans will find the new name playfully ironic, and the really aren't gaining any new ones. Plus it rolls off the tongue... which says a lot in a harsh language like German.
The band relies heavily power tools and anything metallic that can be used as percussion for their live performances. Unfortunately road wear-and-tear, plus many rainy outdoor festival gigs have compromised the equipment. We were in a pretty bad accident with the tour bus last year, and all of the decaying chainsaws, nails, drill bits, sheet metal, and touring personnel got tossed about like we were inside of a blender, which is ironic since the blender (along with the mixer and centrifuge) stayed put.
Everyone got cut up pretty bad, but with all of the screams and clanging such as they were, I'd say that it was hands-down their strongest performance in the time that I've been with them. It was pretty gruesome though. I can only remember one sight as horrific, and that would be the backstage videotape of fellow German techno band Kraftwerk scootching across shag carpeting, and shocking each other's naked asses with their fingers. I think they finally discovered something that was more fun to compute.
Anyway... Flaumige Häschen is a group of rough-and-tumble guys, and their multiple lacerations and severances didn't really bother them all that much. It was the ensuing lockjaw from the tetanus they all got from their rusty instruments that was very uncomfortable for them. Fortunately, having their jaws immobile in no way interfered with their vocal performances.
I just want to see that this doesn't happen again. We can afford better equipment. So to summarize: I have a very naive question... Stainless steel doesn't rust, does it?
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...if they make interesting noises and lights when you put them in the microwave.
What about IPv6? With all these planets, will there be enough address space available?
This will replace Sherlock 87% of the time. To automatically update the database twice a day, open a terminal, type crontab -e and add these lines to the file:
# Update locate database twice a day 00 4,16 * * * root /usr/bin/nice -n 5 /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb >/dev/null
Why don't they build a beowulf cluster of these? We know people are still using Comodores in Afghanistan to send emails don't we?
On a more serious note, I've heard of websites in the 3rd world (was it India?) powered by dozens of 486's. Anyone care to confirm this?
180 mbits of bandwidth. 'nuff said.
Aren't these guys going to get into trouble?