Trust me, my sources tell me that Osama is beeing held at an undisclosed location in France by the Chirac militiamen ( they call themeselfes La Gendarmerie).
On October 31 Kerry will bring him in on a Swift Boat.
IIRC, the unemployment rates in France include measurement of discouraged workers. The number that gets flashed on TV in the US does not include such persons. If you compare fairly, our current unemployment rate is 9.4%, according to the
Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Secure my ass! "The Hole" was secure too, until some waco teeny threw away the key. remember, don't trust teenage girls, they are serial killaz. And have a private escape route.
That leaves sticking it to the middle class here domestically, and using the stock market casino scam
There was this excellent Dilbert strip: VOICE IN TV: Use your own ideas! Buy this stock. SIXPACK JOE: Thank you, unbiased stranger!
and normal partisan politics to keep people faked out that they can get rich, too, sometime in the future Everybody who believes a game with negative Expected Value (the lottery) is a good investment deserves to be poor. The problem is, that even my pal who studied insurance statistics does it regularly.
Heck, they even sold credit as pay to people, and they bought it, people have actually switched to the notion that being in perpetual debt is somehow accumulating wealth.
I think we should put our trust in Tyler Durden.
Each of them will vote for the globaist scamster skull and bonesman of their choice, and whomever gets in, Joe and Jane will just get broker, but blame it on the OTHER globalist bonesman and the OTHER globalist party.
But you could vote for Nader? (and waste your vote).
NO!!! IT has to be a 4 Corner Cube ! The satellite can be placed then at the four quadrants of the orbit SIMULTANEOUSLY!
I have been informed that the academic pedant hirelings are conspiring to defame my 4-inch Cube, as a means to discredit the Time/Life/Truth Cube Creation Principle.
You CAN grow 4-inches ! I will wager $65,000.00 on it!
The Slashdoeters built a worship thread then, in ten days, high and broad on the Apache server, a beacon for ye search bots widely seen by web surfers.
They surrounded the server by a fire wall, as splendid as the cleverest hax0r could make.
In ye pr0n/ directory they placed PNGs and JPEGs and all such things as they'd found on their HDDs.
They left that precious traesure in a forbidden-access directory, as it lies still, as useless to men as it had been before.
Then twelve Moderators rode round the thread moding up those posting praises for their Hero's hackish deeds. (A geek should do so when his Dude gets fragged.)
Thus ye Slashdoeters mourned their great Developer, saying he was, among this world's Coders, ye hax0rest, ye nerdest, ye dudest to his people, and the most eager for eternal MOD-PARENT-UP's.
-- Gall Anonimus
acid was eating away at the reactor cover shield
on
China Goes Nuclear
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Everybody knows, that only privately owned companies are able to deliver quality goods at affordable prices to consumers. That is why the Chinese Communist experiment must fail. They will over-regulate the business process and drive costs into the sky. It is inevitable.
Repeat after me: the stock market REALLY is gambling.
You bet that you have better information than other people, but you can never be sure. Folks betting on hors races also think they know better then the other betting guys.
Even so-called safe instruments can make an investor loose money. How? Buy government bonds which give 4% yield today. If the government rises the rate next month to 5%, your bonds just LOST THEIR VALUE.
What if a Pharao of Egypt had said: "Screw this pyramid stuff, I'm spending the money on defense instead. And you can bury me in a wooden casket".
How about: "Screw this pyramid stuff, I'm spending the money on science and education instead. What is a giant freakin pile of blocks good for? Screw the symbolics! Can we for instance grow more food? Build better ships? How can we use those Greek steam machines ? [I know, not exactly the same century, but the right place.] I want to see some progress, now ! Maybe we should use all those blocks for a Great Wall to protect our Civilisation (Sid Maier laughs now) from the barbarians ? And you can bury me in a wooden casket with no gold inside. I would not want those greedy thieves to desecrate my dead body. Just remember my name, that is the most important thing for us, Egyptians. "
Seriously, any ruler who puts his dead body at higher value than the happiness of his people deserves to be taken out of his grave and put in a museum for the amusement of future generations.
Imagine the investor response if GE said "We are going to build a space elevator, it will take us at least 25 years to complete it and cost the majority of our R&D budget for the whole time frame". That investor money would be voluntarily moved to Microsoft where (relatively) short term growth is much more likely.
Rather than say "a dollar spent on NASA pipe dreams is a dollar taken from the public" I would say "A dollar spend on a NASA pipe dream is a dollar invested in the public's future". Not all investments pan out but many do.
Exactly! Let me just add something:
In some cases people who profit most are not those who pay the cost. The benefits are often externalized either in the form of lower prices through technology progress or by intellectual property moving into public domain (after some time). DARPA spend a lot of money on developing the predecessor of the Internet, which in turn reduced the cost of communication dramatically. They do not demand any royalties because of that.
Companies need to have a shorter investment horizon than a government. Imagine an investment project whose costs are $10bln, but the profits are an expected cash flow of $200bln after 15 years. No company will invest, because it probably won't exist that long. But a government can do that because it is essentially immortal.
A quirk today will be a lifesaver in the future. The gene that we think of as "weak" and "polluting" will be the genes that resist infection or the onset of a new disease in the future.
Exactly:
http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/malaria_sickle.htm l
Sickle trait provides a survival advantage over people with normal hemoglobin in regions where malaria is endemic. Sickle cell trait provides neither absolute protection nor invulnerability to the disease. Rather, people (and particularly children) infected with P. falciparum are more likely to survive the acute illness if they have sickle cell trait. When these people with sickle cell trait procreate, both the gene for normal hemoglobin and that for sickle hemoglobin are transmitted into the next generation.
all the talk because of 4 letters, but I appreciate your polite reply.
> And as per the rules of Slashdot not even the GNAA people deserve to be told to STFU. > They deserve to be modded to oblivion and otherwise ignored.
ok, you are right here. the mod system is the proper way to deal with this things. but when i was looking at the post it just got +1, Interesting. it looked like the mod system was not working. now it is \Offtopic.
> To believe that saying STFU is an argument that counters an uninformed opinion is ignorant. > Therefore I have countered it with a more informed and sophisticated one. > That's ok, we're all ignorant of something,
all right, I second that.
> and seeing as you're an economist you aren't used to the rules of reasoning, discussion and debate. > That doens't mean you can't learn them and relieve yourself of such ignorance though.
I doubt whether this is a discussion or even a (public) debate at all. only if we make it one. this is more like a wall in the toilet, where everybody can write anything. IMHO there is a greater problem, that of signal/noise ratio, but as you pointed out, the mod system is here to solve that. To me, the top post was too much noise. Noise generators have to be cancelled out. Can there be too much "free speech"? Do we drown in (often useless or false) information?
> Here's a quicky course. > All idea may be expressed. > Not all ideas are equal. Some of them are downright stupid. > It's ok to call a stupid idea stupid and say why. > It is not ok to tell a person he is stupid. Attack the idea, not the person. > Telling someone to STFU violates the first and last rule here expressed.
I know that ad hominem arguments do not prove anything. Unfortunatelly (a general observation), it is too timeconsuming to write: "your reasoning is unlogical, a proof of your superstitions, leads to the wrong conclusions, is based on wishful thinking, uses an unapplicable analogy etc." STFU is meant to be explicitly strong and short to write.
> Now you know. Now we need not give further thought to the idea that just because you're an economist you don't know the basic rules.
I am sorry that we have to discuss that at all. It does not lead us closer to any solution on the original topic. maybe an alternative abbreviation is needed. to you, STFU is too offensive (even as na abbreviation,which is itself deliberatly less explicit ?!).
------------ ON TOPIC: it does bother me, that people still cling to faith-based believes. science has partially taken the place of religion and sorcery, but nothing has really changed. "God will save us" , "Science will save us", "it will always grow", "time will solve things", "Moore's Law will save us, because it always has been that way", "there will always be more oil", "there are no limits".
It is very sad to see a hypothesis, which is based on certain conditions, to be used beyond the boundaries of those conditions.
Plus, me being an economist refers only to the fact, that Moore's Law has no basis in physics. as someone correctly pointed out it is a rule of thumb. a self inforcing rule, when it is universally refered to and based on by management.
Moore's Law should be put in the realm of economics, just as Say's Law. It is an observation on the _Behaviour_ of producers, who cater for a certain known demand and bet that their R&D expenses are reimbursed by higher prices for faster products. Because everybody is doing it, investing less means loosing market share, investing too much does not increase profits proportionately.
Some people seem to think that it is an physical law, because it has to do with microprocessors. if someone does make such an mistake, he deserves a STFU, as not to influence others with his uninformed opinion.
maybe the grand-parent-article thinks the barrier is temporary, and can be technically solved. RTFA:
"In order to go beyond this limit, some completely new technology will be required, of which we do not know anything yet," Pescia wrote.
we can not make affirmative statements on unknowns. THAT is ignorant.
as an economist, i say, that putting faith in economic laws is a receipt for failure, eventually ( at lim t-> infinite).
We do not come out with a sense that those people back then were people just like us; that they made choices that we are seeing the consequences of; and finally that we still have power to make choices that our descendants can ponder. Instead we're given this vision that progress was inevitable, and we can just sit back and do nothing because the magic hand of progress will still be there to take care of our children.
So yes I believe we do see ourselves as infallible. The future will always be brighter no matter what we do.
http://almaz.com/nobel/peace/MLK-jail.html
Martin Luther King's Letter from Birmingham Jail April 16, 1963
Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely rational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co-workers with God, and without this 'hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right.
thanks for the good links. I did not know about those sites. actually we were already using simtools.xla (better reverse distributions than standard Excel) and the TornadoDiagram procedure (they are at the first site). I will refer those links to my teacher.
"Dr. Savage's tutorial on Understanding Uncertainty" seems to be good lecture.
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Trust me, my sources tell me that Osama is beeing held at an undisclosed location in France by the Chirac militiamen ( they call themeselfes La Gendarmerie).
On October 31 Kerry will bring him in on a Swift Boat.
"Last one into space is a rotten egg!"
Does that mean that those who stay on the ground will have to dream of electric sheep?
in the same thread someone wrote:
Secure my ass! "The Hole" was secure too, until some waco teeny threw away the key.
remember, don't trust teenage girls, they are serial killaz. And have a private escape route.
That leaves sticking it to the middle class here domestically, and using the stock market casino scam
There was this excellent Dilbert strip:
VOICE IN TV: Use your own ideas! Buy this stock.
SIXPACK JOE: Thank you, unbiased stranger!
and normal partisan politics to keep people faked out that they can get rich, too, sometime in the future
Everybody who believes a game with negative Expected Value (the lottery) is a good investment deserves to be poor. The problem is, that even my pal who studied insurance statistics does it regularly.
Heck, they even sold credit as pay to people, and they bought it, people have actually switched to the notion that being in perpetual debt is somehow accumulating wealth.
I think we should put our trust in Tyler Durden.
Each of them will vote for the globaist scamster skull and bonesman of their choice, and whomever gets in, Joe and Jane will just get broker, but blame it on the OTHER globalist bonesman and the OTHER globalist party.
But you could vote for Nader? (and waste your vote).
NO!!! IT has to be a 4 Corner Cube ! The satellite can be placed then at the four quadrants of the orbit SIMULTANEOUSLY!
I have been informed that the academic pedant hirelings are conspiring to defame my 4-inch Cube, as a means to discredit the Time/Life/Truth Cube Creation Principle.
You CAN grow 4-inches !
I will wager $65,000.00 on it!
The Slashdoeters built a worship thread then,
in ten days, high and broad
on the Apache server, a beacon
for ye search bots
widely seen by web surfers.
They surrounded the server
by a fire wall, as splendid
as the cleverest
hax0r could make.
In ye pr0n/ directory they placed
PNGs and JPEGs
and all such things as
they'd found on their HDDs.
They left that precious traesure
in a forbidden-access directory,
as it lies still,
as useless to men
as it had been before.
Then twelve Moderators
rode round the thread
moding up those
posting praises
for their Hero's
hackish deeds.
(A geek should do so
when his Dude gets fragged.)
Thus ye Slashdoeters
mourned their great Developer,
saying he was,
among this world's Coders,
ye hax0rest, ye nerdest,
ye dudest to his people,
and the most eager
for eternal MOD-PARENT-UP's.
-- Gall Anonimus
Everybody knows, that only privately owned companies are able to deliver quality goods at affordable prices to consumers. That is why the Chinese Communist experiment must fail. They will over-regulate the business process and drive costs into the sky. It is inevitable.
Only an agile managment that has a profit oriented agenda can reduce the overhead of overemployment in profit un-generating activities. (There was a focus on production, established by management, combined with taking minimum action to meet regulatory requirements that resulted in the acceptance of degraded conditions." )
Obviously, Captains of Business must take calculated risks when they try to compete with other entrepreneurs. (An unexpected leak of boric acid has eaten through nearly six full inches of solid high-grade metal in a critical internal component. Only 3/8 of an inch of carbon steel protection was left in tact when the hole was discovered in February. Soon thereafter a second hole was discovered, raising widespread fears that the reactor could be riddled with untold other seriously deriorated sites.)
What the industry does not need is Big Government mendling and fumbling in the day-to-day activities of the managment. A government employed beaurocratic overeducated engineer obviously can not have anyidea what a prospering production company needs.( Bush administration is moving to replace government safety requirements at federal nuclear facilities with standards written by contractors -- after Congress directed the government to start fining the contractors for violations. Long-established government minimum standards at the more than two dozen nuclear weapons plants and research labs around the nation would become unenforceable guidelines under the Energy Department proposal.)
When regulations are needed, the power industry will put in place voluntary requirements aimed at preventing blackouts. ( administered NAERC, which lacks the ability to hand down penalties. Many reliability rules were ignored during the outages.)
A rigid, self-regulation regime in the form of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission will prevent any security anomalies. ( NRC says there is no real danger. But in the same releases it pointed out that the acid has compromised an extremely important safety
feature common to all pressurized water reactors. The NRC gets its funding from the industry it regulates.)
Only private companies are able to deliver the constantly needed supply of electric power at affordable prices.( in its interim report, the task force largely blamed FirstEnergy Corp)
That is why free market will rule, and big government must fail.
Repeat after me: the stock market REALLY is gambling.
You bet that you have better information than other people, but you can never be sure. Folks betting on hors races also think they know better then the other betting guys.
Even so-called safe instruments can make an investor loose money. How? Buy government bonds which give 4% yield today. If the government rises the rate next month to 5%, your bonds just LOST THEIR VALUE.
Jesus what balls !
What if a Pharao of Egypt had said: "Screw this pyramid stuff, I'm spending the money on defense instead. And you can bury me in a wooden casket".
How about: "Screw this pyramid stuff, I'm spending the money on science and education instead. What is a giant freakin pile of blocks good for? Screw the symbolics! Can we for instance grow more food? Build better ships? How can we use those Greek steam machines ? [I know, not exactly the same century, but the right place.] I want to see some progress, now ! Maybe we should use all those blocks for a Great Wall to protect our Civilisation (Sid Maier laughs now) from the barbarians ? And you can bury me in a wooden casket with no gold inside. I would not want those greedy thieves to desecrate my dead body. Just remember my name, that is the most important thing for us, Egyptians. "
Seriously, any ruler who puts his dead body at higher value than the happiness of his people deserves to be taken out of his grave and put in a museum for the amusement of future generations.
That poor little monkey was a brainf**k developer! I am sure that was the first attempt to outsource developer jobs into the animal kingdom.
No wonder it suffered permanent damage, after 12 continous hours of banging on the keyboard my hands and cerebellum are not much use either!
head-banging developers unite !
Stanislav Lem kicks I.Asimov's ass anytime, dude! ;)
That story was great, especially when the robots got religous about their mission/purpose.
I also would like to protest the 'dumbization' of great SF literature for the sake of making it accessible to wider audiences.
"I,Robot/WillSmith", "Solaris" , to name two relevant examples. Does anybody want to complete the list ?
a company was in effect giving away its intellectual property, preventing it from getting future benefits
... if you can not use it?
Tell me, Mister Sharp, what good is Intellectual_Property
If the future benefits never arrive because your particular solution has never gained enough market share for you to benefit from it ?
If everybody chose to rather standardize on the Dominant Player's product, because it just is and will be there?
THIS IS INSANE ! THEY ARE MIXING REALITY WITH FICTION! I CAN NOT SAY WHAT IS A GAME, WHAT IS REALITY ANYMORE! THEY ARE DESOTRYING TEH REALITY!
I have a question for the authors:
Don't you think you should have to suffer for all the harm you've done...and intend to do to the human race?
Don't you think the world's greatest game artist ought to be punished... for the most effective deforming of reality?
Death to the demon, Yevgeny Nourish!"
Death to Pilgrlmage! Death to tranCendenZ!"
Imagine the investor response if GE said "We are going to build a space elevator, it will take us at least 25 years to complete it and cost the majority of our R&D budget for the whole time frame". That investor money would be voluntarily moved to Microsoft where (relatively) short term growth is much more likely.
Rather than say "a dollar spent on NASA pipe dreams is a dollar taken from the public" I would say "A dollar spend on a NASA pipe dream is a dollar invested in the public's future". Not all investments pan out but many do.
Exactly! Let me just add something:
In some cases people who profit most are not those who pay the cost. The benefits are often externalized either in the form of lower prices through technology progress or by intellectual property moving into public domain (after some time). DARPA spend a lot of money on developing the predecessor of the Internet, which in turn reduced the cost of communication dramatically. They do not demand any royalties because of that.
Companies need to have a shorter investment horizon than a government. Imagine an investment project whose costs are $10bln, but the profits are an expected cash flow of $200bln after 15 years. No company will invest, because it probably won't exist that long. But a government can do that because it is essentially immortal.
who do you think you are, Jesus ?
multipling frutti di mare and anchovis ?
A quirk today will be a lifesaver in the future. The gene that we think of as "weak" and "polluting" will be the genes that resist infection or the onset of a new disease in the future.
Exactly:
http://sickle.bwh.harvard.edu/malaria_sickle.ht
Sickle trait provides a survival advantage over people with normal hemoglobin in regions where malaria is endemic. Sickle cell trait provides neither absolute protection nor invulnerability to the disease. Rather, people (and particularly children) infected with P. falciparum are more likely to survive the acute illness if they have sickle cell trait. When these people with sickle cell trait procreate, both the gene for normal hemoglobin and that for sickle hemoglobin are transmitted into the next generation.
No no, you totally missed the point!
The Emperor wants to control outer space;
Yoda wants to explore inner space.
That is the fundamental difference between the light and dark sides of the Force!
all the talk because of 4 letters, but I appreciate your polite reply.
? q=PFFTCPWIDYL
> And as per the rules of Slashdot not even the GNAA people deserve to be told to STFU.
> They deserve to be modded to oblivion and otherwise ignored.
ok, you are right here. the mod system is the proper way to deal with this things. but when i was looking at the post it just got +1, Interesting. it looked like the mod system was not working. now it is \Offtopic.
> To believe that saying STFU is an argument that counters an uninformed opinion is ignorant.
> Therefore I have countered it with a more informed and sophisticated one.
> That's ok, we're all ignorant of something,
all right, I second that.
> and seeing as you're an economist you aren't used to the rules of reasoning, discussion and debate.
> That doens't mean you can't learn them and relieve yourself of such ignorance though.
I doubt whether this is a discussion or even a (public) debate at all. only if we make it one. this is more like a wall in the toilet, where everybody can write anything. IMHO there is a greater problem, that of signal/noise ratio, but as you pointed out, the mod system is here to solve that. To me, the top post was too much noise. Noise generators have to be cancelled out. Can there be too much "free speech"? Do we drown in (often useless or false) information?
> Here's a quicky course.
> All idea may be expressed.
> Not all ideas are equal. Some of them are downright stupid.
> It's ok to call a stupid idea stupid and say why.
> It is not ok to tell a person he is stupid. Attack the idea, not the person.
> Telling someone to STFU violates the first and last rule here expressed.
I know that ad hominem arguments do not prove anything. Unfortunatelly (a general observation), it is too timeconsuming to write: "your reasoning is unlogical, a proof of your superstitions, leads to the wrong conclusions, is based on wishful thinking, uses an unapplicable analogy etc." STFU is meant to be explicitly strong and short to write.
> Now you know. Now we need not give further thought to the idea that just because you're an economist you don't know the basic rules.
I am sorry that we have to discuss that at all. It does not lead us closer to any solution on the original topic. maybe an alternative abbreviation is needed. to you, STFU is too offensive (even as na abbreviation,which is itself deliberatly less explicit ?!).
>PFFTCPWIDYL.
??
http://www.google.com/search
------------
ON TOPIC: it does bother me, that people still cling to faith-based believes. science has partially taken the place of religion and sorcery, but nothing has really changed. "God will save us" , "Science will save us", "it will always grow", "time will solve things", "Moore's Law will save us, because it always has been that way", "there will always be more oil", "there are no limits".
It is very sad to see a hypothesis, which is based on certain conditions, to be used beyond the boundaries of those conditions.
Plus, me being an economist refers only to the fact, that Moore's Law has no basis in physics. as someone correctly pointed out it is a rule of thumb. a self inforcing rule, when it is universally refered to and based on by management.
Moore's Law should be put in the realm of economics, just as Say's Law. It is an observation on the _Behaviour_ of producers, who cater for a certain known demand and bet that their R&D expenses are reimbursed by higher prices for faster products. Because everybody is doing it, investing less means loosing market share, investing too much does not increase profits proportionately.
Some people seem to think that it is an physical law, because it has to do with microprocessors. if someone does make such an mistake, he deserves a STFU, as not to influence others with his uninformed opinion.
maybe the grand-parent-article thinks the barrier is temporary, and can be technically solved. RTFA:
"In order to go beyond this limit, some completely new technology will be required, of which we do not know anything yet," Pescia wrote.
we can not make affirmative statements on unknowns. THAT is ignorant.
as an economist, i say, that putting faith in economic laws is a receipt for failure, eventually ( at lim t-> infinite).
in the cloud
(unless somebody else calls a nearby phone and listens)
OR
I have no cell phone and I must call!
We do not come out with a sense that those people back then were people just like us; that they made choices that we are seeing the consequences of; and finally that we still have power to make choices that our descendants can ponder. Instead we're given this vision that progress was inevitable, and we can just sit back and do nothing because the magic hand of progress will still be there to take care of our children.
So yes I believe we do see ourselves as infallible. The future will always be brighter no matter what we do.
http://almaz.com/nobel/peace/MLK-jail.html
Martin Luther King's
Letter from Birmingham Jail
April 16, 1963
Such an attitude stems from a tragic misconception of time, from the strangely rational notion that there is something in the very flow of time that will inevitably cure all ills. Actually, time itself is neutral; it can be used either destructively or constructively. More and more I feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than have the people of good will. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and actions of the bad people but for the appalling silence of the good people. Human progress never rolls in on wheels of inevitability; it comes through the tireless efforts of men willing to be co-workers with God, and without this 'hard work, time itself becomes an ally of the forces of social stagnation. We must use time creatively, in the knowledge that the time is always ripe to do right.
Janus has only two faces. That is nothing compared to Swiatowid (The Worldwatcher) who has Four of them!
i t/
h ttp://www.ma.krakow.pl/muzeum/zbiory/swiatowid
Your two directional Roman god can only pale in envy when he thinks about The Slavic Zuanthevit who can see everything in FOUR directions!
Bow down before the Ancient One! All hail Swiatowid!
pics:
http://www.geocities.com/gnievko/swietow
http://www.ma.krakow.pl/pradzieje/swiatowid
thanks for the good links. I did not know about those sites. actually we were already using simtools.xla (better reverse distributions than standard Excel) and the TornadoDiagram procedure (they are at the first site). I will refer those links to my teacher.
"Dr. Savage's tutorial on Understanding Uncertainty" seems to be good lecture.