I would bet that, at some point, there will be both DRM compliant and DRM non-compliant TV's for sale. When Joe Blow finds that he can't tape the WWF (or WWE or whatever) match that he has to miss while pulling extra shifts down at the plant, he'll get pissed and vote with his money.
You do definitly have a point though, if that doesn't happen (and it might not, I'm no expert) then we're all screwed.
I agree, the only reason this sort of initiative has gotten anywhere is because your average American isn't annoyed by it yet.
If the average American stops buying DRM-compliant products because of the DRM, the companies will figure it out. Their sole goal is to make money, and it is their nature just as much as it is a politician's to want to be re-elected.
As soon as the monetary losses from DRM grow larger than the losses from piracy, we will see the end to DRM.
That's my point, actually. The Archos came out well before iPod - I believe it was over a year earlier. Yes, it was heavier (and it DID in fact double as a hard drive) and it didn't use firewire - but PC's don't come with firewire cards, they come with USB. And, again, it cost less. Do not misinterpret what I am saying. The iPod is a far better device, without question.
Yes, Mac's are more refined and are, in my opinion, better - I use one at home in conjunction with Linux and Windows machines.
If "ignoring the capabilities" is a trait of a PC-zealot, then you are the PC-zealot, not me, as you have twice now misread (hopefully intentionally) the specifications of the Archos devices.
He didn't ask for your opinion on what his kid should be doing or for criticisms of his parenting, he asked for suggestions on how to accomplish what he asked.
Labeling your post 'Not to be a troll...' doesn't keep you from being one.
What makes you think I'm gay? Oh... right, the stupidity. Grow up dude. I like how you're posting as an annonymous coward, you obviousiously know that what you're saying is pathetic.
The problem is, will AT&T bother to defend itself? My guess is that they don't really give a rats ass about whether or not you can download MP3's. If they're smart, they'll realize that this letting this go through would set a bad precident which would, in the end, cost them money.
Hopefully they will use their corporate sixth sense and do the right thing, albeit for the wrong reasons.
I was just saying that cribs are what enabled the allies to 'break' (well, not really break, but effectively break) enigma, not that they used chosen text.
My point was essentially that this is textbook use of cribs, and not really anything new.
It seems to me that there is a fine line between being too user-friendly and not being user-friendly enough. I think that we need to err on the AOL side of things. If the user is able to use the product, it is possible for them to use it correctly. If the user cannot use the product, it's a moot point.
I would sincerely hope that anyone who is transmitting data that they feel absolutely must not be intercepted would be smart enough to learn how to use the program correctly. Unfortunately, this is probably not likely.
This is not a good idea for a comparison.
First of all, as someone before me said, (Score: 0, Redundant) this should be a comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows, not Linux and Windows. I could go out, get a 1-disk-distro, and have it installed in 10 seconds.
Secondly, and more importantly, a windows intstall works with nearly all hardware you could have in your computer. A Red Hat install, fantastic as it is (I run rh7.2/w2kpro/fbsd4.3rc) Red Hat's hardware support is still behind windows. Even when hardware IS supported, there is a distinct possibility that it won't get set up correctly in the install, and if this is a fair test, you would have to include the time spent setting it up afterwards.
Thirdly, your average windows user is not going to be able to just click on through a Red Hat install and get it right. Fine, they may, technically speaking (in the same vein of technical-truth as those people who, in response to being told that your favorite color is black, tell you "black isn't a color, it's a shade") have the install completed in less time than a windows install, but there will most likely be post-install config that must be done. This is not usually required in a windows install. If you ask me, the text-based sound install that Red Hat has would most likely slow your average windows user down.
I think this is just a bad idea for a comparison, Windows and Linux are different beasts (at least in their current form) and should not be compared in this way.
This is how the allies broke the German enigma in World War 2.
I'm surprised that that counterpane is reporting this as though it were some new idea, it's not.
This is the problem with programs like PGP, they're so well made that they allow a user who has no idea how they work to use them. Unfortunately, that can lead to the simplest of attacks to work.//begin not-so-obscure geek reference Cryptonomicon: Waterhouse breaks the cipher used by Shafthoe et al by ensuring that the word 'crocodile' was used in the ciphertext and using it as a crib. Same deal.//end not-so-obscure geek reference
It's taken from an interview with Heber Jentzsch, the leader of Scientology. The man's a complete lunatic.
If you would care to learn more, probably don't seeing as you're an annonymous coward, but in any case:
His official bio is here:
http://www.scientology.org/scnnews/jentzsch.htm
A transcript of the interview from which I took this is here:
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=12 4&node_id=1273063
Has anybody read the book 'The Artificial Kid' by Bruce Sterling? The basic gyst is that people stage fights with each other, film them, and then sell the films. They film them by having several tiny cameras fly around their body, taking in the action from different angles. If I could just get a few of these together, strap some tiny cameras on them, and get a pair of padded nunchucks, I'd be all set.
Remember in Fight Club, making explosives from soal, and also the fact that you can use nondairy creamer as an explosive. Cameras as gauss guns, damned cool.
It would be even more cool (and even more effective and safe) were we able to combine this technology with the australian laser-teleportation technology. This would also enable detonation of lasers that are underground, at least as I understand it. Of course both technologies would require great improvements, but what doesn't?
http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/1 6/2319226&mode=thread&tid=126 for the laser-teleportation
ridiculous Pronunciation Key(r-dky-ls)
adj.
Deserving or inspiring ridicule; absurd, preposterous, or silly. See Synonyms at kendoka.
[From Latin rdiculus, laughable, from rdre, to laugh.]
Computer games don't have any magic frontal-lobe-activity-decreasing effects on people. If you sat and stared at the bible for three hours you'd probably have trouble concentrating, get angry easily, and having trouble associating with others.
Hell, I got angry reading this report... and I haven't played a game since quake2 came out.
Have you ever read 'A Deepness in the Sky' by Vernor Vinge? In it he talks about how the computer systems that they use on their spacecraft are built on top of eons of other systems, and so they required very many 'programmer-architects.' Programmer-architects were able to explore the system and find ways of dealing with the huge number of inconsistencies, bugs, and other errors that came from running such a complicated system.
"I've written every word of it so far with fountain pen on paper. Part of the theory was that it would make me less long-winded, but it hasn't actually worked. I think it has improved the quality of the actual work somewhat, simply because it is actually easier to edit something on paper than on screen. So usually every page of the original manuscript has been gone over 2 or 3 times before it goes into the computer and then when I type it into the computer that's another pass again where I can make changes if I want to."
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I find it appropriate that he is rated +3 funny.
Amen, bDerrly.
I would bet that, at some point, there will be both DRM compliant and DRM non-compliant TV's for sale. When Joe Blow finds that he can't tape the WWF (or WWE or whatever) match that he has to miss while pulling extra shifts down at the plant, he'll get pissed and vote with his money. You do definitly have a point though, if that doesn't happen (and it might not, I'm no expert) then we're all screwed.
I agree, the only reason this sort of initiative has gotten anywhere is because your average American isn't annoyed by it yet. If the average American stops buying DRM-compliant products because of the DRM, the companies will figure it out. Their sole goal is to make money, and it is their nature just as much as it is a politician's to want to be re-elected. As soon as the monetary losses from DRM grow larger than the losses from piracy, we will see the end to DRM.
That's my point, actually. The Archos came out well before iPod - I believe it was over a year earlier. Yes, it was heavier (and it DID in fact double as a hard drive) and it didn't use firewire - but PC's don't come with firewire cards, they come with USB. And, again, it cost less. Do not misinterpret what I am saying. The iPod is a far better device, without question. Yes, Mac's are more refined and are, in my opinion, better - I use one at home in conjunction with Linux and Windows machines. If "ignoring the capabilities" is a trait of a PC-zealot, then you are the PC-zealot, not me, as you have twice now misread (hopefully intentionally) the specifications of the Archos devices.
Archos had a line of hard drive based mp3 players out before the iPod.
And yes, it didn't use firewire, it used usb 1.0, yes that is a difference, but it was still a parallell product... which cost less.
You do have a point about anti-apple exxagerations, but in doing so you perpetuate the apple-zealot stereotype to a tee.
He didn't ask for your opinion on what his kid should be doing or for criticisms of his parenting, he asked for suggestions on how to accomplish what he asked. Labeling your post 'Not to be a troll...' doesn't keep you from being one.
I can't tell if you're kidding, but if you aren't, suffice it to say that you missed his point.
If it's any consolation, Rabid Tibetan Yak, *I* thought it was funny :)
What makes you think I'm gay? Oh... right, the stupidity. Grow up dude. I like how you're posting as an annonymous coward, you obviousiously know that what you're saying is pathetic.
How about you get yourself into THIS century and realize that intolerance is over. Grow up or go to texas or something.
The problem is, will AT&T bother to defend itself? My guess is that they don't really give a rats ass about whether or not you can download MP3's. If they're smart, they'll realize that this letting this go through would set a bad precident which would, in the end, cost them money. Hopefully they will use their corporate sixth sense and do the right thing, albeit for the wrong reasons.
I was just saying that cribs are what enabled the allies to 'break' (well, not really break, but effectively break) enigma, not that they used chosen text. My point was essentially that this is textbook use of cribs, and not really anything new. It seems to me that there is a fine line between being too user-friendly and not being user-friendly enough. I think that we need to err on the AOL side of things. If the user is able to use the product, it is possible for them to use it correctly. If the user cannot use the product, it's a moot point. I would sincerely hope that anyone who is transmitting data that they feel absolutely must not be intercepted would be smart enough to learn how to use the program correctly. Unfortunately, this is probably not likely.
This is not a good idea for a comparison. First of all, as someone before me said, (Score: 0, Redundant) this should be a comparison of Red Hat Linux and Windows, not Linux and Windows. I could go out, get a 1-disk-distro, and have it installed in 10 seconds. Secondly, and more importantly, a windows intstall works with nearly all hardware you could have in your computer. A Red Hat install, fantastic as it is (I run rh7.2/w2kpro/fbsd4.3rc) Red Hat's hardware support is still behind windows. Even when hardware IS supported, there is a distinct possibility that it won't get set up correctly in the install, and if this is a fair test, you would have to include the time spent setting it up afterwards. Thirdly, your average windows user is not going to be able to just click on through a Red Hat install and get it right. Fine, they may, technically speaking (in the same vein of technical-truth as those people who, in response to being told that your favorite color is black, tell you "black isn't a color, it's a shade") have the install completed in less time than a windows install, but there will most likely be post-install config that must be done. This is not usually required in a windows install. If you ask me, the text-based sound install that Red Hat has would most likely slow your average windows user down. I think this is just a bad idea for a comparison, Windows and Linux are different beasts (at least in their current form) and should not be compared in this way.
This is how the allies broke the German enigma in World War 2.
//begin not-so-obscure geek reference //end not-so-obscure geek reference
I'm surprised that that counterpane is reporting this as though it were some new idea, it's not.
This is the problem with programs like PGP, they're so well made that they allow a user who has no idea how they work to use them. Unfortunately, that can lead to the simplest of attacks to work.
Cryptonomicon: Waterhouse breaks the cipher used by Shafthoe et al by ensuring that the word 'crocodile' was used in the ciphertext and using it as a crib. Same deal.
Ashcroft is the single most disturbing person in the US government. Hey, it's just karma.
It's taken from an interview with Heber Jentzsch, the leader of Scientology. The man's a complete lunatic. If you would care to learn more, probably don't seeing as you're an annonymous coward, but in any case: His official bio is here: http://www.scientology.org/scnnews/jentzsch.htm A transcript of the interview from which I took this is here: http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?lastnode_id=12 4&node_id=1273063
Has anybody read the book 'The Artificial Kid' by Bruce Sterling? The basic gyst is that people stage fights with each other, film them, and then sell the films. They film them by having several tiny cameras fly around their body, taking in the action from different angles. If I could just get a few of these together, strap some tiny cameras on them, and get a pair of padded nunchucks, I'd be all set.
Well, I do admire your desire to make something long, seeing as you are most likely lacking in length in other areas...
Remember in Fight Club, making explosives from soal, and also the fact that you can use nondairy creamer as an explosive. Cameras as gauss guns, damned cool.
It would be even more cool (and even more effective and safe) were we able to combine this technology with the australian laser-teleportation technology. This would also enable detonation of lasers that are underground, at least as I understand it. Of course both technologies would require great improvements, but what doesn't? http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/06/1 6/2319226&mode=thread&tid=126 for the laser-teleportation
ridiculous Pronunciation Key(r-dky-ls) adj. Deserving or inspiring ridicule; absurd, preposterous, or silly. See Synonyms at kendoka. [From Latin rdiculus, laughable, from rdre, to laugh.]
Computer games don't have any magic frontal-lobe-activity-decreasing effects on people. If you sat and stared at the bible for three hours you'd probably have trouble concentrating, get angry easily, and having trouble associating with others.
Hell, I got angry reading this report... and I haven't played a game since quake2 came out.
Have you ever read 'A Deepness in the Sky' by Vernor Vinge? In it he talks about how the computer systems that they use on their spacecraft are built on top of eons of other systems, and so they required very many 'programmer-architects.' Programmer-architects were able to explore the system and find ways of dealing with the huge number of inconsistencies, bugs, and other errors that came from running such a complicated system.
A fountain pen.
"I've written every word of it so far with fountain pen on paper. Part of the theory was that it would make me less long-winded, but it hasn't actually worked. I think it has improved the quality of the actual work somewhat, simply because it is actually easier to edit something on paper than on screen. So usually every page of the original manuscript has been gone over 2 or 3 times before it goes into the computer and then when I type it into the computer that's another pass again where I can make changes if I want to."
http://www.cryptonomicon.com/chat.html