This will probably be the minority opinion, but I find the whole idea dead on arrival because, while the concept is cool, just isn't practical in the less organized offices.
Namely, after one printing, how will you regather the paper in a nice stack, not crumpled, creased, or otherwise used looking besides the printing in an economical manner? I wouldn't count on people being nice and turning the paper back in pristine condition.
This stuff seems to be only for inner office use, and for very organized ones at that.
Me? I couldn't keep track of all that - too much hassle.
I still see e-paper being a much more efficient and exciting solution. Now that readers come out that have excellent storage (no problem with flash memory these days) in a portable format (.pdf, etc) at a good size (8.5x11 inches please) with wireless, at under $100 please. Except for the size perhaps and the price, all of these requirements are easily solved now, and the other two will be coming.
Color would be nice, but optional for now.
I don't see how e-paper won't dominate. In one thing the size of a thin legal pad, you could have all your papers, be able to search them and back them up to other media, and not have to go look for it and gather it up, hope it is in perfect condition, and put it in a printer like this stuff.
If I were really reaching, I would ask this, why can't it be laminated somehow, put in a legal pad size enclosure that contains a miniature "print head" (scanner type light) and have it become the next epaper, but alas in color? That seems feasible, skips the entire idea of a blocky printer somewhere (the ink is only light right? no need for a huge printer, I think) and has the all benefits of e-paper without the drawbacks of a printed sheet.
I don't know why Linus has to care, there are plenty of prominent alternatives.
I like Ubuntu and it got me leaning more toward Gnome. I never liked KDE that much, but I don't take any extra measures to spread that message far and wide - I just don't use it.
Maybe someone can relieve me of my ignorance here (about Linus caring so much, that is).
the knowledge and wisdom that being self-serving can help the community but the main motivation is that you are helping yourself. (Not that this works 100% of the time, hence laws®ulation.)
But isn't this same philosophy driving Open Source essentially? People give to the whole because they know it is cheaper to maintain and they get more (features, reliability, freedom, what have you) out of it than going closed source?
I am not so much bothered by big companies jumping in for their own benefit than a company like SCO and Microsoft behind it, who aren't satisfied with a piece of the pie, but want the whole pie, even if it means destroying the existing community - and those are the players that really aren't involved in the first place.
IBM has a right to try to make money and if there business is good enough that they entice people to spend that cash, they deserve it. Otherwise, it makes no sense for IBM to be in Opensource in the first place. And they have contributed enough to be seen and acknowledged as a general benefactor.
It has to do with quantum moderation - a post can be in multiple states at once (offtopic/funny) until you look at it, then it takes assumes one and only one.
Because it costs money. Do you think MS will be the only company lining up for cash if there is cash to be taken? It will only be the first and not the last, as the rest of the vultures (think big companies and small companies like SCO) flock in to take what they can. And then free software won't be free.
Right now, MS won't dare touch patents in linux, because like the cold war, it will be Mutual Assured Destruction. IBM and some other Linux defenders/MS enemies backs up linux and gives it a hefty patent portfolio with which to threaten MS with. It is a no-win situation.
Companies who pay are suckers and won't reap the promised savings, so why even move from MS?
Paying the mafia in this case is foolish. You are helping them when you don't have to and weakening your own cause. (And being mad at what makes it possible won't do a damn thing. Take the money and instead of putting it in MS's pocket, stick it in a PAC that tries to change the rules in your favor.) Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
First of all, I know this is just a troll. Yet, it's quotes like these which make me wonder just how crazy/zealous people can be. I worry that there will be an incident years from now, where some anti-MS nut swings by Redmond and starts capping who has an MS parking thing on their car, or carries their MS badge. Obviously it's bad for anyone who works at MS when they start have to fearing their lives, but it would also be horrible for things like the FSF or Linux-fans as it could make them look bad, in the eyes of a Joe User (who doesn't follow the tech industry).
I think you, sir, are the troll. Could you throw FUD or accusations of murder or attempted murder after the fact in the direction of FSF or Linux Users? By doing it now, you are claiming us of a zealotry (no, internet posts don't count, especially when someone releases steam) that has not surfaced yet when it has been shown time and again that MS is the lawbreaker and predator. Not us.
I'm assuming that those profits are primarily music based so what amount would you have to offer the world's largest independent music company to be able to release their MP3s without any form copy protection?
They've been releasing music for years now without copyprotection and still do. It's called a music CD. DRM does not protect music from pirates, it merely makes it more annoying for customers, hopefully to point that they'll end up buying the same music again.
Not defending Apple's DRM, but give it a break. Apple/Linux have decent internet marketshare compared to Windows on the internet - where are the actual security breaches?
The summary states both PlaysForSure and Apple's DRM has breach, not just the one or the other.
A lot of people see computers as a tool to do something, like a drill or a BBQ. A drill makes holes, a BBQ cooks food, a computer surfs the internet and does word processing. They don't have to build the drill from small parts to drill a hole, they don't have to rub two sticks together to get fire for the BBQ and so they don't want to have to work on their computer to get it to surf the internet.
While I agree with the sentiment, I disagree how you apply it. First of all, Windows does not "just work." The OSes that I think came closest to just working so far was OS X, and Mint Linux (ubuntu derivative).
Windows doesn't "just work." It is work. It's work mucking around wasting processor cycles cleaning it up with spyware tools or using A/V tools, it is work reinstalling it if the case arises with it's product key and what not. It is work installing drivers, which is more common occurence than it should be. It also does not work for my printer made for Windows -- it requires the driver be reinstalled every restart. You may say Windows is the most compatible with everything else, but as far "just working" out of the box or even day to day, that crown goes to OS X.
I mean, for the last 3 years I had no problems popping in a CD/DVD and having Linux just work as far as surfing the net is concerned. It also had a few handy programs (actually a ton) that with Windows you have to install or download (90% of the bloatware from the vendors just plain suck).
I believe the end cost in time of Windows based on time spent cleaning it up, securing it, or reinstalling it is higher than a modern linux Distro or OS X easily.
1. There are benefits only to Apple - Multitouch as it is implemented in the iPhone is propietary, owned by Apple (bought up by, actually, look up Fingerworks in google) and is not available elsewhere in its current implementation. I have a Fingerworks Keyboard, it works very well and there has not been a replacement - look up on ebay - people buy the keyboards used for $600-900, they were $299 retail before the company shut down when they sold.
2. I find it hilarious that people think that something "as good" will come out in the time Apple has this phone to market. I've been waiting since '97 that does those feature Apple has and does them well. Granted, I'm not sure if Apple is that great, but the demonstration by Jobs blew away my own experience with mobile phones, smart phones, etcetera. The other phones suck. They've made it worse, not better, in the last ten years when talking about actually using the features packaged. To think that the companies can rush out a job as good in six short months is ridiculous. The ball is in Apple's court to get it wrong.
3. If this phone sucked so much, why do people go on and on about it? Why isn't it like Apple's Cube, which Jobs demoed and just sank?
I'll acknowledge several things: This phone isn't a guaranteed hit, it has to deliver when it comes out. 4/8GB is too small if it wants to do video too (and well, should have been 16/32). I hate that it is tied to one provider.
Okay, first off three years ago Ubuntu was not out yet. It came out in late 2004. Desktop Linux has come a long way since Ubuntu's release (hell, Ubuntu came a long way. Now they have distros that based off of Ubuntu and fix their parent distro's shortcomings - like Mint Linux).
Two, I think the focus was on the desktop. Notebooks are slightly different animals. Sleep/Hibernate and all that fun, as well as many of them having their custom buttons on the keyboard.
Three, when I saw Walmart selling Linspire back in the day, I just thought "It's too early" and also Linspire made the mistake of trying to sell themselves as a cheap windows (Lindows). I think that is a mistake. It is not Windows, not compatible with Windows Apps more often than not - especially back then, and it was aimed at the wrong market.
There will be no year of Windows, but I suspect Linux will creep in more and more. Maybe it's just me though.
I walk in cities all the time and find pennies on the ground without anybody snatching them up - a penny saved is not worth very much. Even to the poor. (Would a poor person thank you for dropping a penny in their cup?)
Anyway, if they just stop minting the goddamned things doesn't mean they still won't be in circulation for another 10 years or more. Coins last 20 years on average.
I think they should stop minting in 2009 to coincide with when the modern Lincoln was introduced (in 1909). That be a proper end to the thing.
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Actually, for windows, it's "Eft Up."
You can run K3B without having to run KDE - I do it on my regular Ubuntu box. I think I used Automatix or Easy Ubuntu to download it.
I don't know why people think KDE is better (honestly I don't) but I haven't used it in 3 years, so there may be part of the answer.
This will probably be the minority opinion, but I find the whole idea dead on arrival because, while the concept is cool, just isn't practical in the less organized offices.
Namely, after one printing, how will you regather the paper in a nice stack, not crumpled, creased, or otherwise used looking besides the printing in an economical manner? I wouldn't count on people being nice and turning the paper back in pristine condition.
This stuff seems to be only for inner office use, and for very organized ones at that.
Me? I couldn't keep track of all that - too much hassle.
I still see e-paper being a much more efficient and exciting solution. Now that readers come out that have excellent storage (no problem with flash memory these days) in a portable format (.pdf, etc) at a good size (8.5x11 inches please) with wireless, at under $100 please. Except for the size perhaps and the price, all of these requirements are easily solved now, and the other two will be coming.
Color would be nice, but optional for now.
I don't see how e-paper won't dominate. In one thing the size of a thin legal pad, you could have all your papers, be able to search them and back them up to other media, and not have to go look for it and gather it up, hope it is in perfect condition, and put it in a printer like this stuff.
If I were really reaching, I would ask this, why can't it be laminated somehow, put in a legal pad size enclosure that contains a miniature "print head" (scanner type light) and have it become the next epaper, but alas in color? That seems feasible, skips the entire idea of a blocky printer somewhere (the ink is only light right? no need for a huge printer, I think) and has the all benefits of e-paper without the drawbacks of a printed sheet.
I am aware of no such science. You may be talking about some type of politics.
So is oil, when you get down to it.
Doesn't make hydrogen any more or less viable.
I don't know why Linus has to care, there are plenty of prominent alternatives.
I like Ubuntu and it got me leaning more toward Gnome. I never liked KDE that much, but I don't take any extra measures to spread that message far and wide - I just don't use it.
Maybe someone can relieve me of my ignorance here (about Linus caring so much, that is).
the knowledge and wisdom that being self-serving can help the community but the main motivation is that you are helping yourself. (Not that this works 100% of the time, hence laws®ulation.)
But isn't this same philosophy driving Open Source essentially? People give to the whole because they know it is cheaper to maintain and they get more (features, reliability, freedom, what have you) out of it than going closed source?
I am not so much bothered by big companies jumping in for their own benefit than a company like SCO and Microsoft behind it, who aren't satisfied with a piece of the pie, but want the whole pie, even if it means destroying the existing community - and those are the players that really aren't involved in the first place.
IBM has a right to try to make money and if there business is good enough that they entice people to spend that cash, they deserve it. Otherwise, it makes no sense for IBM to be in Opensource in the first place. And they have contributed enough to be seen and acknowledged as a general benefactor.
It has to do with quantum moderation - a post can be in multiple states at once (offtopic/funny) until you look at it, then it takes assumes one and only one.
Where are you getting your numbers from?
Since the experts know so little, maybe we shouldn't put so much on weight on their words?
Of course we do, it's called public opinion and it affects everything.
that the supply of idiots eager to babysit me and legislate morality isn't only confined to the US and China.
Tarring and feathering some music execs instead?
Because it costs money. Do you think MS will be the only company lining up for cash if there is cash to be taken? It will only be the first and not the last, as the rest of the vultures (think big companies and small companies like SCO) flock in to take what they can. And then free software won't be free.
Right now, MS won't dare touch patents in linux, because like the cold war, it will be Mutual Assured Destruction. IBM and some other Linux defenders/MS enemies backs up linux and gives it a hefty patent portfolio with which to threaten MS with. It is a no-win situation.
Companies who pay are suckers and won't reap the promised savings, so why even move from MS?
Paying the mafia in this case is foolish. You are helping them when you don't have to and weakening your own cause. (And being mad at what makes it possible won't do a damn thing. Take the money and instead of putting it in MS's pocket, stick it in a PAC that tries to change the rules in your favor.) Just because something is legal doesn't make it right.
I think you, sir, are the troll. Could you throw FUD or accusations of murder or attempted murder after the fact in the direction of FSF or Linux Users? By doing it now, you are claiming us of a zealotry (no, internet posts don't count, especially when someone releases steam) that has not surfaced yet when it has been shown time and again that MS is the lawbreaker and predator. Not us.
Thank you.
Just like we are seeing PS3 units flying off the shelves though it has a slight premium over the Xbox360.
They've been releasing music for years now without copyprotection and still do. It's called a music CD. DRM does not protect music from pirates, it merely makes it more annoying for customers, hopefully to point that they'll end up buying the same music again.
Not defending Apple's DRM, but give it a break. Apple/Linux have decent internet marketshare compared to Windows on the internet - where are the actual security breaches?
The summary states both PlaysForSure and Apple's DRM has breach, not just the one or the other.
And why the hell can you patent this?
Windows doesn't "just work." It is work. It's work mucking around wasting processor cycles cleaning it up with spyware tools or using A/V tools, it is work reinstalling it if the case arises with it's product key and what not. It is work installing drivers, which is more common occurence than it should be. It also does not work for my printer made for Windows -- it requires the driver be reinstalled every restart. You may say Windows is the most compatible with everything else, but as far "just working" out of the box or even day to day, that crown goes to OS X.
I mean, for the last 3 years I had no problems popping in a CD/DVD and having Linux just work as far as surfing the net is concerned. It also had a few handy programs (actually a ton) that with Windows you have to install or download (90% of the bloatware from the vendors just plain suck).
I believe the end cost in time of Windows based on time spent cleaning it up, securing it, or reinstalling it is higher than a modern linux Distro or OS X easily.
1. There are benefits only to Apple - Multitouch as it is implemented in the iPhone is propietary, owned by Apple (bought up by, actually, look up Fingerworks in google) and is not available elsewhere in its current implementation. I have a Fingerworks Keyboard, it works very well and there has not been a replacement - look up on ebay - people buy the keyboards used for $600-900, they were $299 retail before the company shut down when they sold.
2. I find it hilarious that people think that something "as good" will come out in the time Apple has this phone to market. I've been waiting since '97 that does those feature Apple has and does them well. Granted, I'm not sure if Apple is that great, but the demonstration by Jobs blew away my own experience with mobile phones, smart phones, etcetera. The other phones suck. They've made it worse, not better, in the last ten years when talking about actually using the features packaged. To think that the companies can rush out a job as good in six short months is ridiculous. The ball is in Apple's court to get it wrong.
3. If this phone sucked so much, why do people go on and on about it? Why isn't it like Apple's Cube, which Jobs demoed and just sank?
I'll acknowledge several things: This phone isn't a guaranteed hit, it has to deliver when it comes out. 4/8GB is too small if it wants to do video too (and well, should have been 16/32). I hate that it is tied to one provider.
Okay, first off three years ago Ubuntu was not out yet. It came out in late 2004. Desktop Linux has come a long way since Ubuntu's release (hell, Ubuntu came a long way. Now they have distros that based off of Ubuntu and fix their parent distro's shortcomings - like Mint Linux).
Two, I think the focus was on the desktop. Notebooks are slightly different animals. Sleep/Hibernate and all that fun, as well as many of them having their custom buttons on the keyboard.
Three, when I saw Walmart selling Linspire back in the day, I just thought "It's too early" and also Linspire made the mistake of trying to sell themselves as a cheap windows (Lindows). I think that is a mistake. It is not Windows, not compatible with Windows Apps more often than not - especially back then, and it was aimed at the wrong market.
There will be no year of Windows, but I suspect Linux will creep in more and more. Maybe it's just me though.
Gee, just what the world needed. At least the donuts won't just promote diabetes anymore.
I walk in cities all the time and find pennies on the ground without anybody snatching them up - a penny saved is not worth very much. Even to the poor. (Would a poor person thank you for dropping a penny in their cup?)
Anyway, if they just stop minting the goddamned things doesn't mean they still won't be in circulation for another 10 years or more. Coins last 20 years on average.
I think they should stop minting in 2009 to coincide with when the modern Lincoln was introduced (in 1909). That be a proper end to the thing.
Excrement over Zune? Would that change the appearance at all? I think not.