Depends what you mean by "significant". From my perspective it was pretty significant when my company migrated, it was significant when our clients migrated, and we're up for a job helping another company migrate.
The lack of migrations is an educational problem, not a technical one. To get the big migrations it will be necessary to make those responsible feel safe and comfortable with the Linux products. That requires smooth talkers, not superior products.
The problem with that argument is that it is pointless. The entire Microsoft presentation is designed to make Windows users feel good about their products by claiming that Linux isn't that popular. That's like saying that you shouldn't date the most wonderful and most beautiful girl in school because she is a band geek instead of head cheerleader.
I think people want a device where they can record a show for playback in a year, a device that can play the tapes from their camcorder (little Susie's first steps, that trip to Europe, etc), and a device that has already been through the court process and won't be ruled illegal by some bought and paid for congressional moron in a year or two.
Ah. Someone does listen to Microsoft's arguments. I heard this same set of arguments in a Microsoft "truth about Linux" presentation.
Using your assumptions Linux grows from 0% to 19%. Growth like that would attract attention and would continue to skyrocket as people that prefer working (and modifiable) software to expensive software would be able to convince their bosses that switching was a good idea.
Now maybe they can sneak one of their settlements past the public. How about 2 billion dollars in free software to needy kids that purchase Windows XP?
The described network in the FAQ is for 3 computers fully exposed to the internet. This is unsafe, especially for users of Windows computers. The alternative way to "follow" their recommendation is to purchase 3 Linksys (or other) routers, one for each of your 3 machines and firewall them that way. Of course they might have a problem with that and consider each of the Linksys devices to be a device and then decide you should pay for 6 devices.
Basically after all the discussion I think it comes down to the fact that the cable ISPs need to be able to throttle bandwidth. After all one guy on a single computer doing mp3 or movie trading (his own recordings and videos of his kid, of course) can easily eat more bandwidth than a network full of people just checking their email and cnn.com every so often.
1. We had suicide 100 years ago. Once you're dead does it really matter what happens to everyone else?
2. Decent communication still requires face to face.
3. True, so how does that really affect your daily life?
4. What you call socializing I call an interesting distraction but chat, email, etc doesn't do anything for my psyche. I'm still alone until I spend time with a real person.
5. So what? That's certainly not progress.
6. Depends what you mean by that but basically I say it's not going to happen. Sure machines remember things longer and think faster but they are still a long ways from having the capabilities of even a stupid brain.
7. So? Longer, shorter. More happy or less happy is what I care about.
8. HOGWASH! There is no substitute for real people. That's a great dream but sorry, life isn't that easy. You can't just lock yourself in the holodeck with the fake characters that love and accept you. That's not life and it's not worth living that way.
The internet is neat but in no way is it necessary or important to life as we know it. It is merely a distraction.
Things don't really change that much
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How is today's life different than 100 years ago? We still learn to walk and talk followed by more learning until we think we are ready to participate in adult society. We look for partners of the opposite sex (except for some that don't go for that sort of a thing). We want to be loved and accepted. We grow older and wiser (even though the kids still think they know more than we do). We get old and then we die.
The internet isn't all that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. Sure, it changes some things but basically life is still life and people are still people.
Suppose someone steals your car and your LoJack system informs you of it's location. You then proceed to that location and find a car matching yours with the identical VIN number and you open the door with your key.
Would you then be doing something illegal to remove the secret cache of money you've hidden beneath the seat?
And to use your analogy, it's kinda like opening the door to someone's house, with the key to your own house, when they're not home, because you think they stole your house.
Just because they haven't been declared dangerous does not mean that they are safe. Roller-blading behind a mini-van on the freeway at 75 miles per hour has not been declared dangerous. It must be safe, right?
There are a number of studies on both sides in both issues and I know the jury is still out on breast implants. I'm not sure that the power line issue is one that anyone is looking at except for the owners of the power lines who need to commision studies to show how safe they are.
On breast implants, it seems obvious to me that the introduction of foreign matter surgically implanted into the body is not a good idea. Whether the final studies determine it to be "safe" or not I would certainly advise people to wait until the studies are completed and I'd still advise anyone I like to not have the implants except as a form of reconstructive surgery.
Out of curiousity, how do you know that high voltage power lines do not cause cancer? Do you live near high voltage power lines and not have cancer? or have you studied all the studies and made an intelligent determination based on all the facts?
There is hardly anyone to disturb there. That guy wouldn't have much to worry about from radio/micro waves there.
Seriously, I think if the people want to have a radio/micro wave free zone they should be able to have it. After all, silicone breast implants were considered safe for many years. (heck, in 35 years it may be determined the cellular phones increase breast size)
A public system like this really only has one use. Advertising.
Sure I can see how some people might want to set up a network using GPS tags for other things like they mentioned in the article but those things are unusable on a public network because they'll be choked out by advertising. Much better to set up a private network with GPS tags relating just to your particular application.
Redhat, SUSE, Debian, are a few quick examples off the top of my head of companies "just volunteering their time" to make improvements. I personally will volunteer my time to fix/improve software that I am using in my company.
Any one of those companies/groups can use any of the ideas from any of the others.
Microsoft, Apple being 2 examples of companies that make commercial derivatives that don't really benefit the originating project.
Thinking up all sorts of interesting but trivial things and then patenting them is just a waste of everyone's time. There are companies and individuals out there making their living off of patenting ridiculous ideas and then suing the people that use them.
I don't think obvious things should be patentable. That just means that every thing I create will be patent encumbered by some other idiot who patented the vertical squeegee or the wireless joystick or the dvd drive that plays disks upside down.
Too many patents impedes creativity rather than encouraging it. The little guy gets screwed when he sinks his life savings into producing widgets and someone sues him because they patented the technique for using nuts and bolts with 3 washers instead of 2.
BSD + Public Domain increase the likelihood of splintering.
My whizbang new program, if released under a BSD style license, could be taken and improved by 2 different companies in 2 different ways and I may never see either improvement even though I wrote the program. So now the end user that wants both improvements suffers because he has to pay 2 companies to get both improvements and since they both closed their source he can't use both improvements at the same time.
The "free software license", as you call it, is great for the "takers" out there. Microsoft and Apple can both release products containing BSD code and never give anything back to the BSD projects.
Any company out there releasing a project based on a GPL licensed source must give release any improvements (or any changes) back to the public.
So when you purchase OS X or Windows 2000, give some consideration to which license is really free and which one is a nice way to donate to the rich.
All I really need is OpenSSH or another SSH2 client and a wireless internet connection (either directly or through my cell phone). Does this do that easily? Is there another PDA or PDA-like device that does it better?
The Nokia Communicator looks like my ideal device but I don't know that there is an SSH2 client for it and they can't sell it in the USA anyway.
You might benefit from setting up another mail server that accepts your mail from the internet, procmails it, and then forwards it to your exchange server.
Attach the legitimate file to your document by dragging it onto your message, selecting insert file or whatever.
Right click on the attachment and select properties.
Change name from legitimate.exe to legitimate.exe.binary (or whatever. be creative)
Send message.
Call and reassure the recipient that your.exe file won't destroy his hard drive on purpose.
(I haven't actually tested it. Since most of our company's email clients run on Linux we don't have a serious need for mail filtering at the mail server.)
isn't that falling into the 'security through obscurity' trap?
Obscurity is a useful tool. It should never be relied on as a sole defence but then neither should any other security tactic. It should definitely be part of a security admin's arsenal though.
If you disagree then please post your/etc/password and/etc/shadow files for our review.
There is more to business than doing everything in your power to beat out the competition. As a business your responsibility is to make an improvement in the lives of your owners, employees, and clients. If you fail in any one of these items your company is a useless waste of space and is better disbanded.
A lot of this has to do with self-marketing. The marketing department has lots of talented marketing minds who are quite capable of convincing folks of their importance to the company.
The IT department, on the other hand, is made up of (hopefully) intelligent computer programmers. If the IT department could hire one or two of those marketing guys to get the message out within the company of what IT does for that company and what it needs to do that job better, they just might be able to swing the higher salaries, catered lunches, etc.
IT needs to be more aggressive. They need to show the C?Os and others how the company will save money and/or be more profitable with better hardware and dedicated staff.
That's what they get for changing players mid-season. Give Linux a chance to get used to the team and they'll see some outstanding numbers there.
Anyone know what the Satanic message in the film was? I heard it was "Outlook is awesome. Viruses and worms are our friends. Virus Basic Scripting (VBScript) RULES!!"
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Depends what you mean by "significant". From my perspective it was pretty significant when my company migrated, it was significant when our clients migrated, and we're up for a job helping another company migrate.
The lack of migrations is an educational problem, not a technical one. To get the big migrations it will be necessary to make those responsible feel safe and comfortable with the Linux products. That requires smooth talkers, not superior products.
The problem with that argument is that it is pointless. The entire Microsoft presentation is designed to make Windows users feel good about their products by claiming that Linux isn't that popular. That's like saying that you shouldn't date the most wonderful and most beautiful girl in school because she is a band geek instead of head cheerleader.
I say go ahead and date the hot sexy band geek.
I think people want a device where they can record a show for playback in a year, a device that can play the tapes from their camcorder (little Susie's first steps, that trip to Europe, etc), and a device that has already been through the court process and won't be ruled illegal by some bought and paid for congressional moron in a year or two.
Ah. Someone does listen to Microsoft's arguments. I heard this same set of arguments in a Microsoft "truth about Linux" presentation.
Using your assumptions Linux grows from 0% to 19%. Growth like that would attract attention and would continue to skyrocket as people that prefer working (and modifiable) software to expensive software would be able to convince their bosses that switching was a good idea.
Now maybe they can sneak one of their settlements past the public. How about 2 billion dollars in free software to needy kids that purchase Windows XP?
The described network in the FAQ is for 3 computers fully exposed to the internet. This is unsafe, especially for users of Windows computers. The alternative way to "follow" their recommendation is to purchase 3 Linksys (or other) routers, one for each of your 3 machines and firewall them that way. Of course they might have a problem with that and consider each of the Linksys devices to be a device and then decide you should pay for 6 devices.
Basically after all the discussion I think it comes down to the fact that the cable ISPs need to be able to throttle bandwidth. After all one guy on a single computer doing mp3 or movie trading (his own recordings and videos of his kid, of course) can easily eat more bandwidth than a network full of people just checking their email and cnn.com every so often.
1. We had suicide 100 years ago. Once you're dead does it really matter what happens to everyone else?
2. Decent communication still requires face to face.
3. True, so how does that really affect your daily life?
4. What you call socializing I call an interesting distraction but chat, email, etc doesn't do anything for my psyche. I'm still alone until I spend time with a real person.
5. So what? That's certainly not progress.
6. Depends what you mean by that but basically I say it's not going to happen. Sure machines remember things longer and think faster but they are still a long ways from having the capabilities of even a stupid brain.
7. So? Longer, shorter. More happy or less happy is what I care about.
8. HOGWASH! There is no substitute for real people. That's a great dream but sorry, life isn't that easy. You can't just lock yourself in the holodeck with the fake characters that love and accept you. That's not life and it's not worth living that way.
The internet is neat but in no way is it necessary or important to life as we know it. It is merely a distraction.
How is today's life different than 100 years ago? We still learn to walk and talk followed by more learning until we think we are ready to participate in adult society. We look for partners of the opposite sex (except for some that don't go for that sort of a thing). We want to be loved and accepted. We grow older and wiser (even though the kids still think they know more than we do). We get old and then we die.
The internet isn't all that big a deal in the grand scheme of things. Sure, it changes some things but basically life is still life and people are still people.
Suppose someone steals your car and your LoJack system informs you of it's location. You then proceed to that location and find a car matching yours with the identical VIN number and you open the door with your key.
Would you then be doing something illegal to remove the secret cache of money you've hidden beneath the seat?
And to use your analogy, it's kinda like opening the door to someone's house, with the key to your own house, when they're not home, because you think they stole your house.
A dynamic dns client would be a quick simple way to get the IP of your stolen computer. Something like dyndns.org.
Just because they haven't been declared dangerous does not mean that they are safe. Roller-blading behind a mini-van on the freeway at 75 miles per hour has not been declared dangerous. It must be safe, right?
There are a number of studies on both sides in both issues and I know the jury is still out on breast implants. I'm not sure that the power line issue is one that anyone is looking at except for the owners of the power lines who need to commision studies to show how safe they are.
On breast implants, it seems obvious to me that the introduction of foreign matter surgically implanted into the body is not a good idea. Whether the final studies determine it to be "safe" or not I would certainly advise people to wait until the studies are completed and I'd still advise anyone I like to not have the implants except as a form of reconstructive surgery.
Out of curiousity, how do you know that high voltage power lines do not cause cancer? Do you live near high voltage power lines and not have cancer? or have you studied all the studies and made an intelligent determination based on all the facts?
There is hardly anyone to disturb there. That guy wouldn't have much to worry about from radio/micro waves there.
Seriously, I think if the people want to have a radio/micro wave free zone they should be able to have it. After all, silicone breast implants were considered safe for many years. (heck, in 35 years it may be determined the cellular phones increase breast size)
A public system like this really only has one use. Advertising.
Sure I can see how some people might want to set up a network using GPS tags for other things like they mentioned in the article but those things are unusable on a public network because they'll be choked out by advertising. Much better to set up a private network with GPS tags relating just to your particular application.
Redhat, SUSE, Debian, are a few quick examples off the top of my head of companies "just volunteering their time" to make improvements. I personally will volunteer my time to fix/improve software that I am using in my company.
Any one of those companies/groups can use any of the ideas from any of the others.
Microsoft, Apple being 2 examples of companies that make commercial derivatives that don't really benefit the originating project.
Thinking up all sorts of interesting but trivial things and then patenting them is just a waste of everyone's time. There are companies and individuals out there making their living off of patenting ridiculous ideas and then suing the people that use them.
I don't think obvious things should be patentable. That just means that every thing I create will be patent encumbered by some other idiot who patented the vertical squeegee or the wireless joystick or the dvd drive that plays disks upside down.
Too many patents impedes creativity rather than encouraging it. The little guy gets screwed when he sinks his life savings into producing widgets and someone sues him because they patented the technique for using nuts and bolts with 3 washers instead of 2.
No reason everyone couldn't become a GPL user.
BSD + Public Domain increase the likelihood of splintering.
My whizbang new program, if released under a BSD style license, could be taken and improved by 2 different companies in 2 different ways and I may never see either improvement even though I wrote the program. So now the end user that wants both improvements suffers because he has to pay 2 companies to get both improvements and since they both closed their source he can't use both improvements at the same time.
The apple analogy doesn't quite hold up.
Say I build a carburetor that gets 75 miles per gallon and I license it using a free style license.
Now Ford installs it in all their new models except they've made some additional modifications so it is now a 100 mile per gallon carburetor.
Under the Magic Apple/ Free Software/ BSD/etc license we're all still stuck using the 75 mpg version even though I contributed to the 100 mpg version.
Under the GPL style license Ford will be required to release their improvements back to benefit the rest of us.
I'm not into releasing free code just so someone can take it and improve their product and not give anything back.
The "free software license", as you call it, is great for the "takers" out there. Microsoft and Apple can both release products containing BSD code and never give anything back to the BSD projects.
Any company out there releasing a project based on a GPL licensed source must give release any improvements (or any changes) back to the public.
So when you purchase OS X or Windows 2000, give some consideration to which license is really free and which one is a nice way to donate to the rich.
All I really need is OpenSSH or another SSH2 client and a wireless internet connection (either directly or through my cell phone). Does this do that easily? Is there another PDA or PDA-like device that does it better?
The Nokia Communicator looks like my ideal device but I don't know that there is an SSH2 client for it and they can't sell it in the USA anyway.
You might benefit from setting up another mail server that accepts your mail from the internet, procmails it, and then forwards it to your exchange server.
Attach the legitimate file to your document by dragging it onto your message, selecting insert file or whatever.
.exe file won't destroy his hard drive on purpose.
Right click on the attachment and select properties.
Change name from legitimate.exe to legitimate.exe.binary (or whatever. be creative)
Send message.
Call and reassure the recipient that your
(I haven't actually tested it. Since most of our company's email clients run on Linux we don't have a serious need for mail filtering at the mail server.)
isn't that falling into the 'security through obscurity' trap?
/etc/password and /etc/shadow files for our review.
Obscurity is a useful tool. It should never be relied on as a sole defence but then neither should any other security tactic. It should definitely be part of a security admin's arsenal though.
If you disagree then please post your
There is more to business than doing everything in your power to beat out the competition. As a business your responsibility is to make an improvement in the lives of your owners, employees, and clients. If you fail in any one of these items your company is a useless waste of space and is better disbanded.
A lot of this has to do with self-marketing. The marketing department has lots of talented marketing minds who are quite capable of convincing folks of their importance to the company.
The IT department, on the other hand, is made up of (hopefully) intelligent computer programmers. If the IT department could hire one or two of those marketing guys to get the message out within the company of what IT does for that company and what it needs to do that job better, they just might be able to swing the higher salaries, catered lunches, etc.
IT needs to be more aggressive. They need to show the C?Os and others how the company will save money and/or be more profitable with better hardware and dedicated staff.
That's just silly. It is simply a modern VCR. Toss out the case and move on.
That's what they get for changing players mid-season. Give Linux a chance to get used to the team and they'll see some outstanding numbers there.
Anyone know what the Satanic message in the film was? I heard it was "Outlook is awesome. Viruses and worms are our friends. Virus Basic Scripting (VBScript) RULES!!"