Not according to Slashdot users. Every single time copyright infringement or copying music/movies/etc. comes up on this site, the users here overwhelmingly argue that unless there is some physical thing taken, it's OK becuase it's not theft.
Bullshit. Nobody says that.(can you provide a link to posts that do?) People correctly say that copying files is not theft. That doesn't make it "OK", it just means that if a crime has been committed, it's something else, like copyright infringement. There is a reason there is a legal term "intellectual property": because it's different to physical property and has different laws and different offences against those laws.
What's being done here is not really all that differrent from bittorrenting an MP3
It's completely different because it's being SOLD, and in the same market as the original software. The selling is the big crime.
Arguing that this has some relation to filesharing is unjustified.
Every time I see someone spitting into them in the pool I want to drown them.
Right, Because having someone spit INSIDE their goggles pollutes the pool. Unlike those swimming with their mouths open. Or those standing quietly taking a piss.
Googl may say "Don't be evil", but they are very tolerant of it.
For YEARS now they have allowed spammers free reign to crap all over Usenet using their Googlegroups interface. They do nothing to block or remove spam, when clearly they have the technology, as they use in filtering GMail, to do so.
I don't know if they have a policy of making Usenet into a shitpile to make their own hosted groups more attractive. Or if they just don't care at all.
pet peeve, is it really necessary to quote the fucking post right above yours when your not pointing out a specific part?
Yes, because the one "right above" might not be visible later if it's modded down, or if the reader has different viewing preferences, and then you appear to be calling the wrong person an asshole.
How the fuck is a kid supposed to afford a lawyer to sue a bully?
Why is that the school's responsibility?
If a crime has been committed, it's a problem for the Criminal Justice system, not the schools. Or preferably, for the parents to sort out (nonviolently, not "my dad can beat up your dad").
And if you expect the police to come in and save the day, do you mind giving me a link to the policing agency that has enough time/money/resources/interest to spend any portion of the day investigating a matter of teen/preteen bullying?
So you advocate having the schools take over policing because the cops are inadequate?
Student A gets away with no punishment, because they didn't do the punching, they just instigated it.
They don't get punished BY THE SCHOOL because they didn't do anything wrong AT SCHOOL. But they could be sued, or face criminal charges in the "real " world.
It's not the school's place to punish students for what they do in their own time.
"I hear so-and-so is a faggot, we should do something about it" posted on Facebook
Of course that's bad and may require a response: either personal from the parents, or from some civil authority. But if it wasn't posted at the school, it's not something the school should deal with, be responsible for or butt in to.
And what kind of moron organises hate crimes on Facebook? Way to leave an indelible trail of evidence that any doofus can find
I'd say yes, when the context being used is about the market itself.
That wasn't the context of the post I was responding to.And not how most people use the words "right" and "wrong".If you're just talking about profitability, you should say so and not use words that imply a higher purpose.
having a company that has an astronomical value and millions of members who don't seem to give a shit about anonymity, then yes, I'd say that makes Zuckerberg right and this guy wrong.
Yep, let the market decide what's "right" and "wrong".
So, that means McDonald's and Coca Cola's approach to nutrition is "right". Cigarette companies are "right" that their product is safe. Fox's news reporting is "right".
It's about knowing that highly visible, talked-about, and linked-to material on their site is ripped off,
"Ripped off"??? The torturers weren't selling the photos and lost a potential sale. They were government servants; in some countries these photos would be public domain.
Flickr should have waited until they received an official complaint from the Egyptian government. If that's what they did get, they should say so.
Printers especially--many work out of the box on a Mac, but the preinstalled drivers take up hundreds of megabytes of disk space.
That's nuts. Even the weirdest Winprinter driver isn't more than a couple of MB. When you "install a printer" though these days you get a shitload of other stuff, not just the actual driver.
Considering that this would be the most important discovery in the last 500 years, it's a little worrying that it's not in Nature, or any science journal I've ever heard of. A few mintes looking at their site and other's opinions shows it to be remarkably "open minded" in the articles it publishes: "Sex on Mars"; "Cosmological foundations of consciousness".
Doesn't necessarily mean this isn't true; but it raises suspicion.
My God that's what's wrong with people from the West (and I am from the West). they think that $400 per week (with extras) is degrading and subsistence.
The "degrading" part is being treated with contempt by the bureaucrats you're forced to kowtow to. And it's "subsistence" by design.
But I do have a job now, fuck you very much. So I don't have to jump through hoops for civil servants or take shit from arseholes like you.
If you go on the dole when you are 18 you can only stay on it for around 48 years because that's when the old age pension kicks in. Surf is up, dudes.
I was on the dole for a while and it isn't a party. It's humiliating and degrading for a subsistence lifestyle. The contempt with which the DSS clerks treat you, not to mention people like you, will drive you to either become an alcoholic or worse after a few months, let alone 48 years.
Anyway, where does the mercury come from? You guessed it; pollution! It used to be industry and coal that produced most of it. Now, a lot of it comes from these CFL bulbs
How does the mercury from CFL bulbs get into the air or sea? Doe someone smash them all and burn them or pour them into a river? If they were just dumped into a landfill, I think it'd take decades or centuries to leak into the environment. If they were collected and processed rationally, there should be no leakage at all.
"Why not let consumers decide what to buy and for what purpose?"
Consumers will decide based on their own needs, not the cost to the community as a whole. As for your specific need for a 40W heater; I would be amazed if there was not a device made to do exactly that. If not now, there will certainly be a demand for this; but quite likely there will be an exemption for "heating bulbs" if there isn't already, for egg incubators, etc. The law is targeted at the vast majority of bulbs used for lighting, which would not be replaced otherwise. I'm sure that in fact you will always be able to buy incandescent bulbs, but at a higher price.
TV "sci-fi" has always been mostly fantasy. Anyway, "SyFy isn't showing much if any fantasy either. "Reality" shows and wrestling is wher they're heading.
It needs to work with printers and scanners that are already there
The Linux system has supposedly been in place since 2005. So they've had these machines in a corner for six years and want to dust them off and buy new Windows licences so they can use them?
Strikes me as pretty damn unlikely. Anyway, any expensive printer will have a Postscript driver. I guarantee it. Or you could just dedicate an old Windows machine to be the print server, in the worst case.
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Not according to Slashdot users. Every single time copyright infringement or copying music/movies/etc. comes up on this site, the users here overwhelmingly argue that unless there is some physical thing taken, it's OK becuase it's not theft.
Bullshit. Nobody says that.(can you provide a link to posts that do?) People correctly say that copying files is not theft. That doesn't make it "OK", it just means that if a crime has been committed, it's something else, like copyright infringement. There is a reason there is a legal term "intellectual property": because it's different to physical property and has different laws and different offences against those laws.
What's being done here is not really all that differrent from bittorrenting an MP3
It's completely different because it's being SOLD, and in the same market as the original software. The selling is the big crime. Arguing that this has some relation to filesharing is unjustified.
Every time I see someone spitting into them in the pool I want to drown them.
Right, Because having someone spit INSIDE their goggles pollutes the pool. Unlike those swimming with their mouths open. Or those standing quietly taking a piss.
For YEARS now they have allowed spammers free reign to crap all over Usenet using their Googlegroups interface. They do nothing to block or remove spam, when clearly they have the technology, as they use in filtering GMail, to do so.
I don't know if they have a policy of making Usenet into a shitpile to make their own hosted groups more attractive. Or if they just don't care at all.
Yes, because the one "right above" might not be visible later if it's modded down, or if the reader has different viewing preferences, and then you appear to be calling the wrong person an asshole.
I doubt editors will correct this, given they didn't even notice they misspelled "Tsunami" (as "Tsumami") in the headline.
How the fuck is a kid supposed to afford a lawyer to sue a bully?
Why is that the school's responsibility?
If a crime has been committed, it's a problem for the Criminal Justice system, not the schools. Or preferably, for the parents to sort out (nonviolently, not "my dad can beat up your dad").
And if you expect the police to come in and save the day, do you mind giving me a link to the policing agency that has enough time/money/resources/interest to spend any portion of the day investigating a matter of teen/preteen bullying?
So you advocate having the schools take over policing because the cops are inadequate?
It was a rhetorical question.
Student A gets away with no punishment, because they didn't do the punching, they just instigated it.
They don't get punished BY THE SCHOOL because they didn't do anything wrong AT SCHOOL. But they could be sued, or face criminal charges in the "real " world.
It's not the school's place to punish students for what they do in their own time.
"I hear so-and-so is a faggot, we should do something about it" posted on Facebook
Of course that's bad and may require a response: either personal from the parents, or from some civil authority. But if it wasn't posted at the school, it's not something the school should deal with, be responsible for or butt in to.
And what kind of moron organises hate crimes on Facebook? Way to leave an indelible trail of evidence that any doofus can find
I'm not sure where to find a list of treaties that the United States has failed to honor
Just about every treaty you made with the Native Americans.
And I'm pretty sure the Geneva Convention is being ignored in Guantanamo .
I'd say yes, when the context being used is about the market itself.
That wasn't the context of the post I was responding to.And not how most people use the words "right" and "wrong".If you're just talking about profitability, you should say so and not use words that imply a higher purpose.
having a company that has an astronomical value and millions of members who don't seem to give a shit about anonymity, then yes, I'd say that makes Zuckerberg right and this guy wrong.
Yep, let the market decide what's "right" and "wrong".
So, that means McDonald's and Coca Cola's approach to nutrition is "right". Cigarette companies are "right" that their product is safe. Fox's news reporting is "right".
It's about knowing that highly visible, talked-about, and linked-to material on their site is ripped off,
"Ripped off"??? The torturers weren't selling the photos and lost a potential sale. They were government servants; in some countries these photos would be public domain.
Flickr should have waited until they received an official complaint from the Egyptian government. If that's what they did get, they should say so.
Great - what the internet needs is more regulation.
How dare those cheese eaters interfere with companies' God-given right to spy on us?
Printers especially--many work out of the box on a Mac, but the preinstalled drivers take up hundreds of megabytes of disk space.
That's nuts. Even the weirdest Winprinter driver isn't more than a couple of MB. When you "install a printer" though these days you get a shitload of other stuff, not just the actual driver.
And on the Mac System 6 I think we used MacPPP; also a third party shareware. http://www.vintagemacworld.com/sys6net.html
How in the world do you plug a MOUSE into a router?
Some routers have a USB port to network printers.
Doesn't necessarily mean this isn't true; but it raises suspicion.
My God that's what's wrong with people from the West (and I am from the West). they think that $400 per week (with extras) is degrading and subsistence.
The "degrading" part is being treated with contempt by the bureaucrats you're forced to kowtow to. And it's "subsistence" by design.
But I do have a job now, fuck you very much. So I don't have to jump through hoops for civil servants or take shit from arseholes like you.
If you go on the dole when you are 18 you can only stay on it for around 48 years because that's when the old age pension kicks in. Surf is up, dudes.
I was on the dole for a while and it isn't a party. It's humiliating and degrading for a subsistence lifestyle. The contempt with which the DSS clerks treat you, not to mention people like you, will drive you to either become an alcoholic or worse after a few months, let alone 48 years.
Anyway, where does the mercury come from? You guessed it; pollution! It used to be industry and coal that produced most of it. Now, a lot of it comes from these CFL bulbs
How does the mercury from CFL bulbs get into the air or sea? Doe someone smash them all and burn them or pour them into a river? If they were just dumped into a landfill, I think it'd take decades or centuries to leak into the environment. If they were collected and processed rationally, there should be no leakage at all.
Consumers will decide based on their own needs, not the cost to the community as a whole. As for your specific need for a 40W heater; I would be amazed if there was not a device made to do exactly that. If not now, there will certainly be a demand for this; but quite likely there will be an exemption for "heating bulbs" if there isn't already, for egg incubators, etc. The law is targeted at the vast majority of bulbs used for lighting, which would not be replaced otherwise. I'm sure that in fact you will always be able to buy incandescent bulbs, but at a higher price.
TV "sci-fi" has always been mostly fantasy. Anyway, "SyFy isn't showing much if any fantasy either. "Reality" shows and wrestling is wher they're heading.
It needs to work with printers and scanners that are already there
The Linux system has supposedly been in place since 2005. So they've had these machines in a corner for six years and want to dust them off and buy new Windows licences so they can use them?
Strikes me as pretty damn unlikely. Anyway, any expensive printer will have a Postscript driver. I guarantee it. Or you could just dedicate an old Windows machine to be the print server, in the worst case.
It would still be up to the Tolkien estate to agree that it's tasteful and let it happen
No such right exists. I could list hundreds of books, movies and TV shows that violate that rule.