The only thing that holds a company / product back are the people who manage the company or who make the product not the competitors around it. In this day and age if a product or service is as good as people rave about it sells it's self.
How do you know that M$ does not attempt to do this with software vendors already? The way I see it most software vendors that I have dealt with are unforgiving when it comes to modifying a product to make it work better with other software. Both parties have to have some give, maybe it's these vendors that are being the PITA and since they are not getting their way, like all spoiled little brats will whine to anyone who will listen and be on their side.
"No, it's not true. 10 years ago most desktop software was written in C++ and Java" ????
Java? WTF! Are you serious? I could count the number of desktop applications written in Java on one hand 10 years ago. There were far more desktop applications written in VB6 than there were Java apps during this time (not that that was a good thing).
I would like to know what you constitute as a "Desktop Application", something only programmed in C++ or Java?
The amount of money you will make upon completing a CS course to say a plumbers apprenticeship is incomparable. If you are worried about job security the IT industry offers little or none unless you have a serious amount of experience and then.....
You are saying because there are "updates" then the flaws don't count? The code in question obviously was vulnerable at one point in time and an update was created. Now who has an axe to grind or is stupid?
Hehe, how many times have we heard that from OSS advocates?
Seems like every new version of software x is going bring down the CS (Closed Source) equivalent. The problem is the CS equivalents are the ones pushing the new features and functionality that the people using them want and need out the door first and the OSS people (in general) just copy them. Now if The GIMP actually came out with new functionality that Photoshop will never employ that made a graphics artist easier. Then yes I'd say that The GIMP might take away from Photoshop, but until then your battle cry falls short on deaf ears.
Actually I dumped BloatAmp after v3.0 came out. Just another good example of how feature creep more often than not kills a good piece of software. I tried iTunes but again Apple (like Real Networks) likes to stuff crap down your mouth as a part of the install and to this day I still cannot uninstall the damn thing, it always gets stuck at a certain point. Right now I am using WMP 10 and it does everything I want, it plays my mp3's and that's all I want.
For those students just getting started in a Computer Science degree or a career in software development.....
Quit now and take up a skilled trade. The odds that you will be employed in the future are marginal at best. While most here might think that as trolling or flame-bait it's the cold reality. I have several friends who are tradesmen who say in the next 5-10 years there will be a significant shortage of highly qualified tradesmen. Where as everyday more software jobs are going off shore, it's pretty hard to send manual labor off shore and be competitive.
Probably one of the most poorly done books to movies ever created. I ended up walking out after 45min or so. The problem was the movie used all of the wrong parts of the book to tell the story. The character and story development jumped all over the place and it felt like it was going no where fast. It is the only movie I have ever walked out of before it finished. Oddly enough I wasn't the only one who thought this because after me and my friend got up a few others left as well at the same time.
So I am a clever virus writer that creates a virus that adds a new project to the targets BOINC client and points it to a URL where my actual destructive payload sits in waiting to be downloaded and run. While I have not looked into how feasible this is it does seem possible. It looks like the BOINC client is just a dumb client that will download and run anything that it's pointed at.
Unless I am mistaken on how the BOINC client works.
I installed BOINC and fired it up to my surprise I found it more bothersome to actually setup. I have my old client setup to screen saver after 2min and go blank after 0 mins. The new client had the same settings but I still saw the "floating Seti box" from hell. I spent more than a few minutes with the Account Prefs/Update feature on the BOINC client/web site to realize that it often will cause the BOINC client to freeze.
Sadly if the Seti/BOINC client does not get any better I will be stopping my involvement. The old Seti client was easy to setup and I could forget about it. Now I feel I will have to "maintain" it.
Another issue to deal with is all the legit users out there who have already activated their versions. The problem here is their key might be invalid now. Said user installs sp2 and oh oh your key is invalid please call MS. MS does not want to piss off the legit users because of the pirates. This is another reason why MS might not do anything about invalid or misused keys this time round.
this is where MS fud blows up in their face. XP when you buy it has ZERO support.
And this is where your fud blows up in your face. For the base price of a MS OS (98+) you get an online KB for free, windows update for free, support from hundreds of vendors and there KB's for free. What do you get from Red Hat, a single point of contact for support or RTFM from people in the community? If I were to purchase a desktop OS purely on the idea of support MS products would be top of my list due to the fact they actually might be around for awhile.
Didn't Red Hat say a few months ago that they were not going to compete with MS at the desktop level? Why would you waste $5 per month on a company that in a year might say "oh we made a mistake we cant make money off of this lets toss the whole thing in the toilet." MS is in front right now because they are in it for the long haul. Until a distro based company can say that and put their money where their mouth is MS will always be in front.
... of the movie The Thing? They drill into the lake and release an organism that radically mutates and kills all the scientists. I know the movie was about an alien but what if....
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Depends on how you define santa
The only thing that holds a company / product back are the people who manage the company or who make the product not the competitors around it. In this day and age if a product or service is as good as people rave about it sells it's self.
Yeah but you can only kick a dead horse for so long ....
RELAX Tim ....
... stick a fork in it; Novell is done.
How do you know that M$ does not attempt to do this with software vendors already? The way I see it most software vendors that I have dealt with are unforgiving when it comes to modifying a product to make it work better with other software. Both parties have to have some give, maybe it's these vendors that are being the PITA and since they are not getting their way, like all spoiled little brats will whine to anyone who will listen and be on their side.
At least your getting fucked on the first date; OSS is just a tranny in a red hat.
oops, sorry a Fedora
So at the most all your going to get is a blowjob...
"No, it's not true. 10 years ago most desktop software was written in C++ and Java" ????
Java? WTF! Are you serious? I could count the number of desktop applications written in Java on one hand 10 years ago. There were far more desktop applications written in VB6 than there were Java apps during this time (not that that was a good thing).
I would like to know what you constitute as a "Desktop Application", something only programmed in C++ or Java?
Skilled Trade...
The amount of money you will make upon completing a CS course to say a plumbers apprenticeship is incomparable. If you are worried about job security the IT industry offers little or none unless you have a serious amount of experience and then.....
.... Netcraft confirms Fedora is dying
You are saying because there are "updates" then the flaws don't count? The code in question obviously was vulnerable at one point in time and an update was created. Now who has an axe to grind or is stupid?
Hehe, how many times have we heard that from OSS advocates?
Seems like every new version of software x is going bring down the CS (Closed Source) equivalent. The problem is the CS equivalents are the ones pushing the new features and functionality that the people using them want and need out the door first and the OSS people (in general) just copy them. Now if The GIMP actually came out with new functionality that Photoshop will never employ that made a graphics artist easier. Then yes I'd say that The GIMP might take away from Photoshop, but until then your battle cry falls short on deaf ears.
Actually I dumped BloatAmp after v3.0 came out. Just another good example of how feature creep more often than not kills a good piece of software. I tried iTunes but again Apple (like Real Networks) likes to stuff crap down your mouth as a part of the install and to this day I still cannot uninstall the damn thing, it always gets stuck at a certain point. Right now I am using WMP 10 and it does everything I want, it plays my mp3's and that's all I want.
For those students just getting started in a Computer Science degree or a career in software development.....
Quit now and take up a skilled trade. The odds that you will be employed in the future are marginal at best. While most here might think that as trolling or flame-bait it's the cold reality. I have several friends who are tradesmen who say in the next 5-10 years there will be a significant shortage of highly qualified tradesmen. Where as everyday more software jobs are going off shore, it's pretty hard to send manual labor off shore and be competitive.
My $0.02
Or ....
F**king Ewoks
Also...
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Probably one of the most poorly done books to movies ever created. I ended up walking out after 45min or so. The problem was the movie used all of the wrong parts of the book to tell the story. The character and story development jumped all over the place and it felt like it was going no where fast. It is the only movie I have ever walked out of before it finished. Oddly enough I wasn't the only one who thought this because after me and my friend got up a few others left as well at the same time.
So I am a clever virus writer that creates a virus that adds a new project to the targets BOINC client and points it to a URL where my actual destructive payload sits in waiting to be downloaded and run. While I have not looked into how feasible this is it does seem possible. It looks like the BOINC client is just a dumb client that will download and run anything that it's pointed at.
Unless I am mistaken on how the BOINC client works.
I also agree with you.
I installed BOINC and fired it up to my surprise I found it more bothersome to actually setup. I have my old client setup to screen saver after 2min and go blank after 0 mins. The new client had the same settings but I still saw the "floating Seti box" from hell. I spent more than a few minutes with the Account Prefs/Update feature on the BOINC client/web site to realize that it often will cause the BOINC client to freeze.
Sadly if the Seti/BOINC client does not get any better I will be stopping my involvement. The old Seti client was easy to setup and I could forget about it. Now I feel I will have to "maintain" it.
You can read it here The Lottery if you want to bring back some old memories.
Mod parent up..... Oh ya I see it already is.
Another issue to deal with is all the legit users out there who have already activated their versions. The problem here is their key might be invalid now. Said user installs sp2 and oh oh your key is invalid please call MS. MS does not want to piss off the legit users because of the pirates. This is another reason why MS might not do anything about invalid or misused keys this time round.
this is where MS fud blows up in their face. XP when you buy it has ZERO support.
And this is where your fud blows up in your face. For the base price of a MS OS (98+) you get an online KB for free, windows update for free, support from hundreds of vendors and there KB's for free. What do you get from Red Hat, a single point of contact for support or RTFM from people in the community? If I were to purchase a desktop OS purely on the idea of support MS products would be top of my list due to the fact they actually might be around for awhile.
Didn't Red Hat say a few months ago that they were not going to compete with MS at the desktop level? Why would you waste $5 per month on a company that in a year might say "oh we made a mistake we cant make money off of this lets toss the whole thing in the toilet." MS is in front right now because they are in it for the long haul. Until a distro based company can say that and put their money where their mouth is MS will always be in front.
... of the movie The Thing? They drill into the lake and release an organism that radically mutates and kills all the scientists. I know the movie was about an alien but what if....
Now that would be so cool...
Atleast the police would have the evidence that it was her who did it as long as she didn't hit the camera while plunging the knife into your chest.